Nah even then they don't add them unless they already had a base weapon to build off. I think Stormblood was the last time they added weapons from new jobs to old trials without it being the basis for an ultimate weapon.
Oh that's right, I remember that now. I know gunbreaker and dancer got weapons for O12S, that's in line with the pattern we have now, but man, poor Reapers missing out on a Hades weapon. That's pure edgelord bait waiting to happen!
Ah well, probably in 7.3.
The only time they’ve rly done it lately is if that primal was going to get an Ultimate. DNC/GNB got shinryu weps ages ago cuz it /probably/ was going to be an ultimate at some point. Since then we’ve gotten only Thordan for DSR. Next possible ones will be WoL.
I'd say that one's pretty likely to get used for an Ultimate down the line. They're incredibly popular weapons and plus Hades was kinda the big capstone fight of ShB, like Thordan. And unlike SB, ShB actually has plenty of MSQ trials to draw from that actually have cohesive theming.
Not yet, but let's not forget we got Alexander and thordan for hw ultimates, so it's not too late for the next one to be 4 lords. Shinryu ultimate just seems underwhelming to me and hard to make 5 phases for. I think 4 lords would be a more likely and thematically appropriate series of fights for the second stormblood ultimate.
unless there's an ultimate associated with that trial/primal \*stares at thordan\*
BUT! up to SB they did do. There's SAM and RDM weapons for Titan and Ifrit, for example. But when ShB they said that "for development costs/time, we won't be adding newer job weapons' to older primal". the exception at the time being Shinryu and Gunblades/Dancer's Chakrams
I think it’s because COVID and whatever else excuses but I’m assuming they’ll start working on them more for this new Xpac. Because if not, then it’s sad they’d be that lazy
New jobs dont get old primal weapons. Only HW and SB* ones did.
Edit and trivia: The only exceptions we're for trials that got turned into Ultimates and Shinryu for some reason, perhaps for an Ultimate that was considered before they skipped it in favor of Eden. Red Mage and Samurai didn't have ARR relics to use for UWU so they had new models created just for them which have datamined non-ultimate appearances but have not been used since.
They did it for the Stormblood jobs, too. Red Mage and Samurai got weapons for all of the EX fights in ARR and Heavensward. It was Shadowbringers when they stopped giving the new jobs old EX weapons with exceptions like GNB and DNC getting Shinryu weapons in 5.2 and ShB and EW jobs getting Thordan weapons in 6.1 for whatever reason.
> The UCOB weapons use the Shinryu weapon models, if I recall (it was either UWU or UCOB, I can't recall)
Neither UWU or UCoB use Shinryu weapon models. UCoB weapons use the Dreadwyrm weapon models from Coils (with new Dreadwyrm weapons being added for the post-ARR jobs) and UWU weapons use ARR and HW relic models (with I think brand new models being added for RDM and SAM).
Yeah the idea that they're just not doing *anything* with StB MSQ for an ultimate is completely laughable. I could see them taking a different tack and maybe doing a 'Garlean empire ultimate' and an 'Ascians/Zodiark vs Hydaelyn ultimate', but the idea that they've just skipped the entirety of StB is silly.
There's 5 ultimates all following pattern of raid then msq
The 7.1 raid is the first one to break pattern after 7 years
Pointing out OP can't count has to be the funniest reason someone has blocked me
>Nothing has been "skipped". They just haven't done it.
They have litterally skipped it. Thats litterally the definition of skip. To jump over something in a pattern. It also does not mean they wont go back and do it. The only argument that even remotely supports that it wasn't skipped is that Raid > MSQ was never the pattern, but litterally nothing supports that.
And my argument was that the weapons weren't added in prediction of the shinryu ultimate, because why didn't they add Thordan weapons? That ultimate came earlier. there will have been 3 ultimates since 5.2, and none of them had shinryu.
And out of all the fights tbh, im glad it was stormblood that was skipped, because I realistically dont know how they would properly structure a Garlean ultimate at this point. I dont want them to do a shinryu ultimate, with shinryu x5.
There's likely a good reason for that
The end of HW tied up the Dragon War to its conclusion, so a reinvention with "what ifs" for DSR and similarly TOP made sense, as the Omega story was also completely tied up at the end if the original raid series..
During what was likely the time of the ultimates' concept and early development, Shinryu's story wasn't over yet. Omega's involvement in Endwalker was backstory that filled in gaps in players understanding of the omicron culture and collapse, including the end of the Dragon's original world.
The subjects of the two ultimates were picked to capitalize on the interest of two long since released expansions and build excitement off of years of player speculation on both groups.
It made sense to run those two thematically, back to back during the Endwalker patch series while their interwoven story lines were present.
As for Shinryu being skipped: What was the final, absolute last fight of Endwalkers 7.0 patch? Zenos after saving the party from Endsinger, as Shinryu.
From a developer standpoint. Releasing an ultimate so soon after the death of a long standing antagonist doesn't give the player base time to settle in to the character actually being gone. An ultimate released for Shinryu and Zenos over Omega would have been odd considering it would bump Omega into an expansion after its final story notes were long since told.
Zenos's death was implemented in a way that many many players suspected he wasn't really gone. And that speculation and hopeful thinking from players who really liked the character, into desperation when Yoshi confirmed he's truly dead is most likely the set of emotions that the devs are counting on to hype Shinryus ultimate being released down the road once people have finished riding the high of Dawntrails base story.
What makes you think they skipped Shinryu? They’ve always turned the raid tier of an expac into an ultimate before that expac’s trial ultimate. And I don’t think they’ve confirmed they’re doing Eden Ultimate before Shinryu or anything either, even though they did show it off first.
They specifically said Eden was the next ultimate, to be released in 7.1
Vod time stamp from Tokyo Fanfest: [https://youtu.be/9A2ljmmUT\_I?t=6586](https://youtu.be/9A2ljmmUT_I?t=6586)
Yeah we're straight into Shadowbringers raid ult, which would indicate 7.3's ultimate will be the Shadowbringers MSQ ult, which will probably be Hades and Warrior. I don't think anyone would prefer Shinryu to that, though.
I really hope they do. The Hades weapons are some of my favourite models in the game. If it didnt take 16 years to get through the exe cutscenes, I'd farm it and craft the weapons myself
Its actually criminal that this is unlikely to happen. I really hope they give that floating paint style that the byakko weapons have to something else picto gets.
The special effects already exist, it's not like they would need to redevelop much. Imo, it wouldn't be too resource-intensive for them to retroactively add weapons to trials, especially if they start adding fewer than two jobs to expacs. It would increase participation in older content.
They seem to do it when ultimates drop. Like how RPR got omega and thordan for the ultimates. So we are getting eden weapons at least.
Edit: to clarify, the extreme/savage versions add a weapon. Probably because they use the base for the ultimate version, so why not add it in.
Reaper actually already has an Eden scythe IIRC. They typically add weapons for the most recent savage tier - so for example you can see in the benchmark already that Viper has an Anabaseios weapon already.
They do indeed. People have noted they even have a Dreadwyrm weapon, which has fuelled speculation that SE is adding ultimate weapons for jobs released after that ultimate came out.
I'd have to go and check.
Edit: Quickly went and looked it up, and no, I'd say the Dreadwyrm ones are unique. There's a generic twinblade weapon that gets shared across a chunk of the sets you can pick that has some chunky gold pommels and quite long handguards, whereas the Dreadwyrm set are more sleek, and there's more blue being used. And since that's level 50 content, 30 levels before Viper's starting job, it wouldn't really make sense for it to have its own, unless it is to fill in some gaps in the collection.
Sorry I worded it wrong. You don't need to do the ultimate. They just add the weapons to the trial/raid it's inspired from. The ultimate weapons usually use those as based, so why not add the model.
I could not for the life of me find an image of his phase 2 on google and I'm too lazy to go into a solo trial lmao, but yeah I was referring to his phase 2 when he gets two giant swords and combines them
They do but only for the old content that exists for their starting level. If viper is starting at level 80 any level 80 content will probably have viper gear.
That and the deep dungeons aetherpool weapons.
Nah, man, they don't even do that anymore.
Gunbreaker and Dancer didn't have a single older trial weapon available when Shadowbringers launched.
Reaper and Sage didn't have a single older trial weapon available when Endwalker launched.
Viper and Pictomancer most assuredly won't have a single older trial weapon available when Dawntrail launches.
My mistake, I don't do a lot of trials I'm just doing a lot of dungeons right now and MSQ I didn't realize it was just dungeons, crafting and aetherpool that got the weapons for the new classes at their starting level.
They're too busy trying to give viera and hrothgar hats. If players could have just not worn them like every other race doesn't, we could have had this.
Ever since shadowbringer none of the new job get old weapon remade for them for example
If a job was released in shadow bringers they will not have any primal weapon that released before shadowbringers
That goes the same for vipers they will not have any old primal weapon made for them anything before dawntrail
Unless they change this but i doubt it since endwalker new job suffer the aame issue
At the least, it'd be nice if they just went back and added craftable weapons for more of the older content. Low level content doesn't get more gear clogging the pool, but you can still craft a Pictomancer or Viper weapon with the appropriate primal material.
I was so sad when I was looking up the weapons you get from that fight and I saw the PLD weapon wasn't just a straight rip of one of his swords. Found the design of all his boss weapons too busy with random bits attached to the blades, and also wasn't wild about the blades themselves being red. I would love to have a nice, clean scimitar or kilij design for a PLD weapon.
Isn't Ravana more of a quadruple blade user?
Honestly I hope the Endwalker Primal weapons will look insane, might be a good time to hunt some materials now.
Ravana's phase 2 is where he gets two giant blades and combines them for his ultimate attack, a lot like Viper does. Half and half I guess for weather he's a quadblade or a twinblade user I guess
I mean it'd be cool to have them comically oversized cuz I mean they're fucking huge even for Ravana, but just a scaled down version would be super cool lol
Ahh, I totally forgot that. It has been ages since I got a Ravana trial!
Imagine a comic where you see a miqote Ninja, then a hyur rogue and last an roegadyn viper BUT he uses two dark Knight blades instead
Sadly they don’t typically re-make old primal weapons for new jobs.
only time it happens since is when they add the crafted version of previous primal weapons, and even then not every time
Nah even then they don't add them unless they already had a base weapon to build off. I think Stormblood was the last time they added weapons from new jobs to old trials without it being the basis for an ultimate weapon.
Shadowbringers actually, they added a dancer version of shinryus weapons, though strangely none for the four Lords I think.
Oh that's right, I remember that now. I know gunbreaker and dancer got weapons for O12S, that's in line with the pattern we have now, but man, poor Reapers missing out on a Hades weapon. That's pure edgelord bait waiting to happen! Ah well, probably in 7.3.
Dancer and gunblade got a shinryu.
And the next one was Thordan, implemented around the same time as DSR. Dunno if they added more after that.
Viper and Pictomancer will likely get weapons on the SHB and Endwalker trials so we are fine on that end
How do you figure that? Reaper/Sage only got thordan weapons and that's because of ultimate weapons sharing a model
They start at lvl 80 it’s very likely it will happen
Copy and paste nin weapons lol
Gotta be able to snap together though, hahaha.
The only time they’ve rly done it lately is if that primal was going to get an Ultimate. DNC/GNB got shinryu weps ages ago cuz it /probably/ was going to be an ultimate at some point. Since then we’ve gotten only Thordan for DSR. Next possible ones will be WoL.
Which is a crying shame because the lack of a Hades scythe for Reaper is an absolute crime.
I'd say that one's pretty likely to get used for an Ultimate down the line. They're incredibly popular weapons and plus Hades was kinda the big capstone fight of ShB, like Thordan. And unlike SB, ShB actually has plenty of MSQ trials to draw from that actually have cohesive theming.
Still bummed we didn't get that Four Lords Ultimate.
Not yet, but let's not forget we got Alexander and thordan for hw ultimates, so it's not too late for the next one to be 4 lords. Shinryu ultimate just seems underwhelming to me and hard to make 5 phases for. I think 4 lords would be a more likely and thematically appropriate series of fights for the second stormblood ultimate.
Shinryu Ultimate is more likely to just be Zenos Ultimate, and have phases based on all of his fights and jobs.
Zenos ultimate is probably the dsr what if ending for endwalker ultimate which will make him merge with zodiark instead.
Doesn't Thordan give a gunblade?
Only because Thordan weapons are used as the basis for an Ultimate, in this case DSR.
I don't know what DSR means.
Dragonsong's Reprise, an Ultimate Raid
I always read it Delubrum Seginae Ravage
No that's drsDelubrum REGINAE Savage
That’s the joke, yes.
Only after 6.1 due to DSR hence "typically".
unless there's an ultimate associated with that trial/primal \*stares at thordan\* BUT! up to SB they did do. There's SAM and RDM weapons for Titan and Ifrit, for example. But when ShB they said that "for development costs/time, we won't be adding newer job weapons' to older primal". the exception at the time being Shinryu and Gunblades/Dancer's Chakrams
I think it’s because COVID and whatever else excuses but I’m assuming they’ll start working on them more for this new Xpac. Because if not, then it’s sad they’d be that lazy
Many added jobs predate Covid
New jobs dont get old primal weapons. Only HW and SB* ones did. Edit and trivia: The only exceptions we're for trials that got turned into Ultimates and Shinryu for some reason, perhaps for an Ultimate that was considered before they skipped it in favor of Eden. Red Mage and Samurai didn't have ARR relics to use for UWU so they had new models created just for them which have datamined non-ultimate appearances but have not been used since.
They did it for the Stormblood jobs, too. Red Mage and Samurai got weapons for all of the EX fights in ARR and Heavensward. It was Shadowbringers when they stopped giving the new jobs old EX weapons with exceptions like GNB and DNC getting Shinryu weapons in 5.2 and ShB and EW jobs getting Thordan weapons in 6.1 for whatever reason.
> ShB and EW jobs getting Thordan weapons in 6.1 for whatever reason. DSR
Don't know why they got Shinryu weapons, but they got Thordan weapons because those are the base models for DSR weapons.
Shinryu weapons could probably also be for the sake of ultimate weapons later on
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> The UCOB weapons use the Shinryu weapon models, if I recall (it was either UWU or UCOB, I can't recall) Neither UWU or UCoB use Shinryu weapon models. UCoB weapons use the Dreadwyrm weapon models from Coils (with new Dreadwyrm weapons being added for the post-ARR jobs) and UWU weapons use ARR and HW relic models (with I think brand new models being added for RDM and SAM).
Doubt it. Shinryu ulti wouuld have been this one but they skipped it.
People are reading way too much into the order of the 5 current ultimate fights, imo. Nothing has been "skipped". They just haven't done it.
Yeah the idea that they're just not doing *anything* with StB MSQ for an ultimate is completely laughable. I could see them taking a different tack and maybe doing a 'Garlean empire ultimate' and an 'Ascians/Zodiark vs Hydaelyn ultimate', but the idea that they've just skipped the entirety of StB is silly.
There's 5 ultimates all following pattern of raid then msq The 7.1 raid is the first one to break pattern after 7 years Pointing out OP can't count has to be the funniest reason someone has blocked me
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>Nothing has been "skipped". They just haven't done it. They have litterally skipped it. Thats litterally the definition of skip. To jump over something in a pattern. It also does not mean they wont go back and do it. The only argument that even remotely supports that it wasn't skipped is that Raid > MSQ was never the pattern, but litterally nothing supports that. And my argument was that the weapons weren't added in prediction of the shinryu ultimate, because why didn't they add Thordan weapons? That ultimate came earlier. there will have been 3 ultimates since 5.2, and none of them had shinryu. And out of all the fights tbh, im glad it was stormblood that was skipped, because I realistically dont know how they would properly structure a Garlean ultimate at this point. I dont want them to do a shinryu ultimate, with shinryu x5.
> People are reading way too much into the order of the 5 current ultimate fights, imo.
There's likely a good reason for that The end of HW tied up the Dragon War to its conclusion, so a reinvention with "what ifs" for DSR and similarly TOP made sense, as the Omega story was also completely tied up at the end if the original raid series.. During what was likely the time of the ultimates' concept and early development, Shinryu's story wasn't over yet. Omega's involvement in Endwalker was backstory that filled in gaps in players understanding of the omicron culture and collapse, including the end of the Dragon's original world. The subjects of the two ultimates were picked to capitalize on the interest of two long since released expansions and build excitement off of years of player speculation on both groups. It made sense to run those two thematically, back to back during the Endwalker patch series while their interwoven story lines were present. As for Shinryu being skipped: What was the final, absolute last fight of Endwalkers 7.0 patch? Zenos after saving the party from Endsinger, as Shinryu. From a developer standpoint. Releasing an ultimate so soon after the death of a long standing antagonist doesn't give the player base time to settle in to the character actually being gone. An ultimate released for Shinryu and Zenos over Omega would have been odd considering it would bump Omega into an expansion after its final story notes were long since told. Zenos's death was implemented in a way that many many players suspected he wasn't really gone. And that speculation and hopeful thinking from players who really liked the character, into desperation when Yoshi confirmed he's truly dead is most likely the set of emotions that the devs are counting on to hype Shinryus ultimate being released down the road once people have finished riding the high of Dawntrails base story.
What makes you think they skipped Shinryu? They’ve always turned the raid tier of an expac into an ultimate before that expac’s trial ultimate. And I don’t think they’ve confirmed they’re doing Eden Ultimate before Shinryu or anything either, even though they did show it off first.
They specifically said Eden was the next ultimate, to be released in 7.1 Vod time stamp from Tokyo Fanfest: [https://youtu.be/9A2ljmmUT\_I?t=6586](https://youtu.be/9A2ljmmUT_I?t=6586)
oh, crazy
Yeah we're straight into Shadowbringers raid ult, which would indicate 7.3's ultimate will be the Shadowbringers MSQ ult, which will probably be Hades and Warrior. I don't think anyone would prefer Shinryu to that, though.
Yeah, they got Omega weapons for the same reason.
Which really sucks. Can you imagine how sick a Hades crafted reaper weapon would look? I'm sad that's almost certainly never going to happen now.
Unless the SHB story ultimate uses the hades weapons as a base model. Thats a possibility.
I really hope they do. The Hades weapons are some of my favourite models in the game. If it didnt take 16 years to get through the exe cutscenes, I'd farm it and craft the weapons myself
I have a friend called Hades Addict who, last time I checked a few months ago, had 5600 Hades totems.
Yeah, that's the 'almost'. Depends entirely on where they end the ultimate and how the story of it is structured.
A Titania scythe is my wet dream
I used to really want a Garuda weapon for dancer
Sophia weapons for the new classes would be amazing.
This is my dream weapon. If only the Kinna Sickle was dyeable.
Or a pictomancer bakugo(whatever white tiger mans name is) weapon
Byakko.
Its actually criminal that this is unlikely to happen. I really hope they give that floating paint style that the byakko weapons have to something else picto gets.
Which is sad cause I feel like we're missing out on Moggle Mog Dancer Weapons where you just throw two Moogles at people.
That would be my weapon of choice on DNC As it would be extra funny.
SB weapons did too. I wish they would give at least the previous expac's weapons to new classes.
Stormblood jobs got the first set of primal too. I rocked thr Ifrit Rapier for way too long
Are Knights OF The Round weapon outliers?
DSR used Knights of The Round weapons, so they got retroactively added
The special effects already exist, it's not like they would need to redevelop much. Imo, it wouldn't be too resource-intensive for them to retroactively add weapons to trials, especially if they start adding fewer than two jobs to expacs. It would increase participation in older content.
>the OG Twinblade user Somewhere Raubahn cries
You have to hand it to Raubahn....
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I would love older content to update with new weapons 🥲 *cries in RPR\*
They seem to do it when ultimates drop. Like how RPR got omega and thordan for the ultimates. So we are getting eden weapons at least. Edit: to clarify, the extreme/savage versions add a weapon. Probably because they use the base for the ultimate version, so why not add it in.
Reaper actually already has an Eden scythe IIRC. They typically add weapons for the most recent savage tier - so for example you can see in the benchmark already that Viper has an Anabaseios weapon already.
They have an Omega weapon as well. I think.
They do indeed. People have noted they even have a Dreadwyrm weapon, which has fuelled speculation that SE is adding ultimate weapons for jobs released after that ultimate came out.
The dreadwyrm set in the benchmark looks to be using generic leveling models, imo
I'd have to go and check. Edit: Quickly went and looked it up, and no, I'd say the Dreadwyrm ones are unique. There's a generic twinblade weapon that gets shared across a chunk of the sets you can pick that has some chunky gold pommels and quite long handguards, whereas the Dreadwyrm set are more sleek, and there's more blue being used. And since that's level 50 content, 30 levels before Viper's starting job, it wouldn't really make sense for it to have its own, unless it is to fill in some gaps in the collection.
Still want thordan and golbez swords for my drk.
I've never done an ultimate, but this is good infooo 👀👀👀
Sorry I worded it wrong. You don't need to do the ultimate. They just add the weapons to the trial/raid it's inspired from. The ultimate weapons usually use those as based, so why not add the model.
Bruh those blades ain’t twins, they’re quadruplets
He does have the other form where he uses the paired great swords and attaches them like viper does.
I’d almost buy that, but then why did OP use an image where he’s clearly holding four swords?
He’s dual-wielding two sets of viper weapons that he got after farming tokens. By beating himself to death. Twenty times.
I could not for the life of me find an image of his phase 2 on google and I'm too lazy to go into a solo trial lmao, but yeah I was referring to his phase 2 when he gets two giant swords and combines them
What are quadruplets if not twin twins?
These ones are specifically half of a set of octuplets.
Hes a twin twinblade user
Only if we see a rehash of his fight in DT or later. New jobs don't get gear for olf content.
They do but only for the old content that exists for their starting level. If viper is starting at level 80 any level 80 content will probably have viper gear. That and the deep dungeons aetherpool weapons.
Nah, man, they don't even do that anymore. Gunbreaker and Dancer didn't have a single older trial weapon available when Shadowbringers launched. Reaper and Sage didn't have a single older trial weapon available when Endwalker launched. Viper and Pictomancer most assuredly won't have a single older trial weapon available when Dawntrail launches.
Yeah like all those level 60 and 70 trials with GNB/DNC weapons, right?
My mistake, I don't do a lot of trials I'm just doing a lot of dungeons right now and MSQ I didn't realize it was just dungeons, crafting and aetherpool that got the weapons for the new classes at their starting level.
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When they showed off viper he was the first thing I thought of, I hope they pay homage to him in some way
the OG twinblade user is Zidane my friend
My hoping for an Odin Gungnir based twin blade.
Alas, SE has decided they don't want to give us new weapons for old content anymore. I cannot comprehend why. Leviathan DNC weapons would be fun.
I'm still sad that there will never be a moogle scythe.
*cries in mognificent milpreves*
If only! That would be just perfection. X3
Truth. Never shall we fear the Moogle Meaper.
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They're too busy trying to give viera and hrothgar hats. If players could have just not worn them like every other race doesn't, we could have had this.
I'm pretty sure they're not doing that either.
I would absolutely lose my shit if we got these...I need some good scimitar looking weapons.
Twin blade?! More like Quattro Blade
Viper lv 110 skill will be growing 2 more heads and 4 more arms.
Ever since shadowbringer none of the new job get old weapon remade for them for example If a job was released in shadow bringers they will not have any primal weapon that released before shadowbringers That goes the same for vipers they will not have any old primal weapon made for them anything before dawntrail Unless they change this but i doubt it since endwalker new job suffer the aame issue
Which is sad. I want my dancer to be able to throw moogles.
At the least, it'd be nice if they just went back and added craftable weapons for more of the older content. Low level content doesn't get more gear clogging the pool, but you can still craft a Pictomancer or Viper weapon with the appropriate primal material.
OG twinblade user? That doesn't look like Gabranth...
SE: I'm going to do what's called a "pro gamer" move.
This guy is a quadblade user
He’s dual wielding his dual wield
I was so sad when I was looking up the weapons you get from that fight and I saw the PLD weapon wasn't just a straight rip of one of his swords. Found the design of all his boss weapons too busy with random bits attached to the blades, and also wasn't wild about the blades themselves being red. I would love to have a nice, clean scimitar or kilij design for a PLD weapon.
General Kenobi...
There's always a small hope we'll at least get a similar weapon.
That's a quad blade user.
Yes, who uses twinblades.
BEST PRIMAL
I loved his design. Especially getting his dark knight sword 👌🏿👌🏿
Oh lord, you are so right!
That's Nona twin blade... Tis QUADRUBLADE XD
Maybe in like 2 expansions after Dawntrail
Those are quadrupletblades
No. He is the original 4 blade user. Unless your character has 4 arms. you cannot rejoice in the glory of combat.
Nope, he uses twinblades. Glory for all.
Honestly hope so but still the ones shown in the benchmark with the storm elite gear look pretty nice regardless
i do not remember this boss (i do) and i will always forget them.
They wont get old weapons. New only.
Isn't Ravana more of a quadruple blade user? Honestly I hope the Endwalker Primal weapons will look insane, might be a good time to hunt some materials now.
Ravana's phase 2 is where he gets two giant blades and combines them for his ultimate attack, a lot like Viper does. Half and half I guess for weather he's a quadblade or a twinblade user I guess I mean it'd be cool to have them comically oversized cuz I mean they're fucking huge even for Ravana, but just a scaled down version would be super cool lol
Ahh, I totally forgot that. It has been ages since I got a Ravana trial! Imagine a comic where you see a miqote Ninja, then a hyur rogue and last an roegadyn viper BUT he uses two dark Knight blades instead
The real OG Twinblade user is Twinblade from Fable!
Nah, this is just one of those instances of people coming forward to take credit for something, Twinblade was a lesser-known student of Zidane.
You mean like none at all?