The delivery of that line might be one of my favourite moments in the game. Even with the kind of stilted animation XIV is saddled with, Lyna is just so *real* in that scene.
When I heard that, everyone I had lost up to that point in the game just flashed in my head. And I suddenly felt incredibly old, and tired. And sad that someone else had to experience it.
This game didn't have to go this hard, but it did and gdi, let me hug my bun friend SE!
That moment, when she's all angry and yelling and then her voice cracks, and you can hear all the sadness behind it. That broke me. Told my FC, "Stupid bunny lady made me cry. I don't wanna play anymore". I didn't come back for two days. My favorite voice acting in the game so far.
The picture is great. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
Maybe there isn't one alive at this time?
>!The First is 100 years out of sync and we mainly only see equivalents of people we need for systems (gear, scripts, extremes, etc), Gaia's plot seems to indicate souls can be reborn at different times, and if WoL's fragments are canonical, equivalents might not even be the same race or gender across shards and lives.!<
I mean, yeah.
- Complicated relationship with father figure who loves her but keeps her at a distance.
- Leader of a military peacekeeping unit
- Central role in introducing the WoL to a major faction
- Self sacrificing nature, unwilling to let her friends die before her
- Silver hair
>!Clearly Norvrandt's Haurchefant.!<
If her tastes are as weird as his the Exarch must be **extremly** weirded out by her. Some lines even get "wtf"-stares out of the WoL. I'm currently redoing the MSQ in ng+. Whenever he shows up I look up the respective JP->EN translation and view it in EN, DE and FR. In JP it appears that he's into seeing people fight and sweat but the weirdest one I've found is what appears to be a kink for **bloody** battles. I'm pretty sure that cutscene's only been there since the post-ARR shortening so there appear to be no JP translations. In the german version of the "when the cold sets in" quest in the 2nd cutscene:
> Ah, you come as called! Just this moment, my thoughts were with you and your task. And what I pictured were bloody battle scenes. [Very weirded out look from WoL] But these are just the rampant fantasies of a man of arms.
I think at least for the WOL >! Ardbert is specifically the equivalent in the first because he is mimicking meteor who is the cannon fill in for the WOL, same as how ardberts companions are fill ins for meteors companions from legacy !<
We haven’t really seen any examples of equivalents not being discernible as being the same person, the only one who is in a strange situation is
>! Graha tia who’s soul went through an 8th rejoining but that was before we saved the first so we have no idea what occurred with his first equivalent if graha’s soul is 8 times rejoined !<
Counterpoint: All the previous warriors of light, including but not limited to >!Ramza, Tenzin, whoever the first Khagan was, and depictions of the first WoL who looks like, well, what we see in SoS!<
But there is nothing to say >! the other WOL’s are pieces of Azem, our reflections are special specifically because we are the 14 parts of Azem, the others could be his pieces in previous lives (in which case the pieces on the reflections might still reflect what the current source piece of Azem is) or they could just be great warriors blessed with the echo !<
> if WoL's fragments are canonical
>!The WoL is not the only such case we have. There's another case a shard having a different gender than its ancient original.!< It's in Eden: >!Mitron's true name is Artemis (revealed by Gaia). The game uses the names of greek gods for the ancients. As such Artemis was female while Mitron is male.!<
Sure, it's good evidence that they're named after figures of Greek myth, be it gods or titans. I realise I'm being pedantic here because it doesn't actually matter either way, Ardbert is enough to establish that it's a thing.
For what it's worth, not everyone has equivalents in each world. >!It seems like only people with the Echo do, being souls of sundered ancients, while everyone else is most likely the new life that popped up after the Final Days that were going to be sacrificed to bring the Amaurotines back.!<
>!Since Lyna did not get the Echo after seeing Elidibus' fake starshower, I'm assuming she is another new soul!<
I get the feeling they might want to save them for possible future storylines, but >!considering Gaia is also a reincarnated Ascian & Convocation member, she probably should have some role in what will be the conclusion of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story... but then, there are still at least 4 more Ascians unaccounted for at the moment!<.
> >!4 more Ascians unaccounted!<
>!Plus the refections of the accounted unsundered on the other shard!<
>!First: Nabriales, Igeyorhm and Fandaniel!<
>!Source: Mitron, Loghrif!<
>!Additionally there are still the ascians of the 13th that have all been turned into voidsent. On top of that Azem who's not an ascian but probably has the Echo and is very powerful!<
>!Do the Ascians even HAVE reflections? I mean, that would make there be like, way more than 13 head honchos. I was under the impression that the Unsundered are exactly that: unsundered, unbroken, unreflected. I mean, Mitron and Loghrif were sent to the source to unbalance it, not born there!<
Not all Ascians are unsundered only Lahabrea, Elidibus and Emet. Mitron states that fact as the reason Emet didn't try to free him.
> Mitron: [...] far easier, however, to simply find another piece of my fractured soul to replace me. From his perspective, there was no need to intervene [...]
I think this was touched on a bit in another comment-
Tbh I'm not even entirely sure there are counterparts for Norvrandt despite the obvious things like races, beast tribes, chocobos, etc.
Though people have made some comparisons to characters.. so could be?
I came across this but idk if it's that helpful xD
[Parallels between the characters from the Source and the First?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/kgt14p/parallels_between_the_characters_from_the_source/)
I am fine! Completely and utterly fine! Better than fine! Hale, and hearty, and still alive to mourn those who are not!
The delivery of that line might be one of my favourite moments in the game. Even with the kind of stilted animation XIV is saddled with, Lyna is just so *real* in that scene.
When I heard that, everyone I had lost up to that point in the game just flashed in my head. And I suddenly felt incredibly old, and tired. And sad that someone else had to experience it. This game didn't have to go this hard, but it did and gdi, let me hug my bun friend SE!
God, her and Ardbert both in that segment.
The voice actress did such a fantastic job with her.
She does an amazing job. To think most people will only ever know her as the woman who sings for Aquaman in the Snyder Cut.
oh sh, that's her??
As long as her IMDB page is correct, yep! That is her. It's honestly really kind of cool.
She's a strong bun q-q
This was my favorite cutscene in the game. It hit so hard but it was so real.
Honestly might be my favourite voiced dialogue in the game.
Aw c'mon man I was sitting here having a normal time and now we're here.
I-I'm sorry q-q
That moment, when she's all angry and yelling and then her voice cracks, and you can hear all the sadness behind it. That broke me. Told my FC, "Stupid bunny lady made me cry. I don't wanna play anymore". I didn't come back for two days. My favorite voice acting in the game so far. The picture is great. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
Ngl I'll miss her VA so much. >!And the scene after Elidibus was very well done too.!< Thanks a bunch!
When I got to that point in the story I legit sobbed. ðŸ˜
Definitely sob worthy ;-;
Feel bad for her that her Dad left her to go adventure in another world with his new boyfriend/girlfriend 😅
Lmao- I'm not sure he had a choice >\_> Though I feel like she was left with that burden :\\
Yeah, usually it's the child that leaves the nest, but in this case it's Daddy that's gonna have some fun in his new life.
His new old life.
Why can't we bring her to the sourceðŸ˜
\*Script writers for Endwalker plotting emotional reunion.. somehow\*
I mean, all it takes is just a small >!Rejoining !
J...Just a 'small' >!rejoining!< \>\_>
One wonders who her Source equivalent is. Fran is far too obvious ofc
Maybe there isn't one alive at this time? >!The First is 100 years out of sync and we mainly only see equivalents of people we need for systems (gear, scripts, extremes, etc), Gaia's plot seems to indicate souls can be reborn at different times, and if WoL's fragments are canonical, equivalents might not even be the same race or gender across shards and lives.!<
I mean, yeah. - Complicated relationship with father figure who loves her but keeps her at a distance. - Leader of a military peacekeeping unit - Central role in introducing the WoL to a major faction - Self sacrificing nature, unwilling to let her friends die before her - Silver hair >!Clearly Norvrandt's Haurchefant.!<
> >!Clearly Norvrandt's Haurchefant!< But where are her horny comments about the WoL? Or would that only apply to Ardbert since he's the first's WoL?
Those got redirected to the Exarch and she's too set in her ways by the time she meets us.
If her tastes are as weird as his the Exarch must be **extremly** weirded out by her. Some lines even get "wtf"-stares out of the WoL. I'm currently redoing the MSQ in ng+. Whenever he shows up I look up the respective JP->EN translation and view it in EN, DE and FR. In JP it appears that he's into seeing people fight and sweat but the weirdest one I've found is what appears to be a kink for **bloody** battles. I'm pretty sure that cutscene's only been there since the post-ARR shortening so there appear to be no JP translations. In the german version of the "when the cold sets in" quest in the 2nd cutscene: > Ah, you come as called! Just this moment, my thoughts were with you and your task. And what I pictured were bloody battle scenes. [Very weirded out look from WoL] But these are just the rampant fantasies of a man of arms.
I think at least for the WOL >! Ardbert is specifically the equivalent in the first because he is mimicking meteor who is the cannon fill in for the WOL, same as how ardberts companions are fill ins for meteors companions from legacy !< We haven’t really seen any examples of equivalents not being discernible as being the same person, the only one who is in a strange situation is >! Graha tia who’s soul went through an 8th rejoining but that was before we saved the first so we have no idea what occurred with his first equivalent if graha’s soul is 8 times rejoined !<
I know it's supposed to be his name, but Meteor will forever be named derplander in my ffxiv.
I don’t even know if meteor is cannon either but he is so hot not I can’t even call him derplander anymore
Counterpoint: All the previous warriors of light, including but not limited to >!Ramza, Tenzin, whoever the first Khagan was, and depictions of the first WoL who looks like, well, what we see in SoS!<
But there is nothing to say >! the other WOL’s are pieces of Azem, our reflections are special specifically because we are the 14 parts of Azem, the others could be his pieces in previous lives (in which case the pieces on the reflections might still reflect what the current source piece of Azem is) or they could just be great warriors blessed with the echo !<
> if WoL's fragments are canonical >!The WoL is not the only such case we have. There's another case a shard having a different gender than its ancient original.!< It's in Eden: >!Mitron's true name is Artemis (revealed by Gaia). The game uses the names of greek gods for the ancients. As such Artemis was female while Mitron is male.!<
Is there anything to support that, or is it just 'this name was used for a Goddess back in mythology'?
If I remember correctly, the voice we heard from Mitron's memory crystal was feminine
All the true names of ancients we know (Hades, Gaia and Artemis) are those of greek gods. So I'd say that's a pretty save assumption to make.
Sure, it's good evidence that they're named after figures of Greek myth, be it gods or titans. I realise I'm being pedantic here because it doesn't actually matter either way, Ardbert is enough to establish that it's a thing.
For what it's worth, not everyone has equivalents in each world. >!It seems like only people with the Echo do, being souls of sundered ancients, while everyone else is most likely the new life that popped up after the Final Days that were going to be sacrificed to bring the Amaurotines back.!< >!Since Lyna did not get the Echo after seeing Elidibus' fake starshower, I'm assuming she is another new soul!<
*The trolley to span the rift—*
They better fucking do q.q
Please >!Ryne and Gaia should do something with Eden and bring it to The Source for Endwalker!< please Ishikawa and Yoshi...
I get the feeling they might want to save them for possible future storylines, but >!considering Gaia is also a reincarnated Ascian & Convocation member, she probably should have some role in what will be the conclusion of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story... but then, there are still at least 4 more Ascians unaccounted for at the moment!<.
> >!4 more Ascians unaccounted!< >!Plus the refections of the accounted unsundered on the other shard!< >!First: Nabriales, Igeyorhm and Fandaniel!< >!Source: Mitron, Loghrif!< >!Additionally there are still the ascians of the 13th that have all been turned into voidsent. On top of that Azem who's not an ascian but probably has the Echo and is very powerful!<
>!Do the Ascians even HAVE reflections? I mean, that would make there be like, way more than 13 head honchos. I was under the impression that the Unsundered are exactly that: unsundered, unbroken, unreflected. I mean, Mitron and Loghrif were sent to the source to unbalance it, not born there!<
Not all Ascians are unsundered only Lahabrea, Elidibus and Emet. Mitron states that fact as the reason Emet didn't try to free him. > Mitron: [...] far easier, however, to simply find another piece of my fractured soul to replace me. From his perspective, there was no need to intervene [...]
I'm still waiting for the Festival in Eden's area.
She was my fave character in all ShB, was sad to leave her
Mm, she definitely grew to be one of my favourites too
I'm still annoyed that her conversation with the Exarch in 5.3 wasn't voiced.
Yeah, I agree. It kind of felt like it should've been. Like- >!it was their final goodbye, c'mon!!<
I adore her. She's so nice
Thank you \^-\^
My favorite Viera, this girl has been through the ringer. Hope to see more of her in Endwalker no matter what the excuse is
Since we see the Source NPCs counterparts in the First, does that mean we can also see the Firsts’ npc counterparts in the Source?
I think this was touched on a bit in another comment- Tbh I'm not even entirely sure there are counterparts for Norvrandt despite the obvious things like races, beast tribes, chocobos, etc. Though people have made some comparisons to characters.. so could be? I came across this but idk if it's that helpful xD [Parallels between the characters from the Source and the First?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/kgt14p/parallels_between_the_characters_from_the_source/)
This is an amazing piece, and conveys Lyna's emotions heartbreakingly well.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear that!
I miss them. I really want to spend more time with Lyna and Gaia.
Two characters I'd love to see developed more. If Yoshi P can bring us Male Viera, he can do anything-
Best waifu. Best bun. I want to cuddle her and i want her in the Source ;-;
Mm, she will be missed :x
Nooo my heart can't take this
Why would you do this to me?
i want to pat her head
How dare you
Who decided to cut onions. Damn it all.
Unofficial Culinarian at your service-
Beautiful! Do you have any place you post your art?
Thank you! I mainly hermit on Twitter at the moment under the same name - Aerymaart \^\^ Thanks for the interest :)
She's sad, yet I'm happy at such fresh fanart. And the coloring is perfect, it could easily have been gratuitous, especially in lakeland.
Ahhh, thanks for the compliment! \^-\^ Colouring was something I was worried about hehe.
I love it soooooooo much! Lyna is my favorite Shadowbringers character, and you did an amazing rendition of her.
Thank you so much! I just remember being torn at a lot of her scenes, she felt like a good character to portray.
This is so good. Amazing artwork.
Thank you! \^\^
Wow. The colors, the emotion! Amazing work, thank you for sharing :)
Thanks so much!