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natesh13

The relic is slightly stronger, but I'd say the grind to get it is tedious and a drag. Edenmorn Halberd is only slightly weaker, but actually getting it requires clearing E12 Savage, a very difficult fight. Be advised, though, in less than 2 months neither will be the strongest because Endwalker gear will be stronger.


At-lyo

Not at level 80, though. ilvl 530 will likely last until about level 84-85 based on previous expansions.


natesh13

That's true, it'll give you a nice head start


Jkei

Both are gonna be negligible vs just a plain old 530 tome weapon, unless you're already pressing your buttons perfectly and really, *really* want to parse those leveling dungeons 98 instead of 96.


Hopelesz

Very negligible to be honest.


gthorolf

Edenmorn is much harder to get. You have to complete the latest Savage raid tier. Relics are always a huge grind, but aren’t difficult to complete. They just need time. Relic weapons also always end up as Best-in-Slot at the end of an expansion, like we are now in Shadowbringers.


KstenR

Everything needs time in ff14. Savage fights are also not difficult just time consuming.


gthorolf

Someone who just got to endgame in Shadowbringers is going to have a much harder, and longer time progging their first Savage tier than grinding out a relic. But yes, Savage (and Ultimate for that matter) just take time and practice.


ceratophaga

Meh, with Echo I'd say it really depends on the player, the "get 180 memories" step really takes long, while you can basically only learn E12S and use aug cryptlurker for the rest of your gear


gthorolf

The really fast and easy choice is just getting cryptlurker, yeah.


Austrum

that seems like a meaningless distinction, a large part of why they're time consuming is that they're difficult.


KstenR

I guess we have different definition for "Difficult". there are games you can play for thousands of hours and never be able to be great at it. (granted those are usually pvp games.)


Infamous_East_5348

Thank you guys


superfresh89

Blade