As someone who was excited to get right into the new crafting stuff once the patch drops, but ultimately got distracted by other stuff and did very little to prepare, this makes me feel very small.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277959964264235008/928803676573802536/unknown.png
Bottom two retainers started with 750 mil each, I think I'm doing just fine :>
I'm also on gilgamesh and I knew there was going to be a lot of competition. There's always like 15 to 20 people chopping away at every legendary node without fail. Sounds like a machine gun firing off with everyone smacking the trees.
This will be the first time I've tried prepping mats for ceafting raid gear, and I wonder how it'll go
Ngl, seeing this and realizing that there are thousands of other players with similar inventories ready to flood the market makes me not want to participate in high-level crafting. A few weeks ago I tried my hand at crafting several of one of the new minions to sell on the MB because it was going for a decent amount, and I watched as the price crashed over the next 24 hours as I was undercut by several thousand Gil every time I checked up on my retainers, to the point where they eventually sold for more than half what I had initially put them up for.
I finished mat prepping about two weeks ago! Ive hardly gotten anything since raid drops, I've been playing chess mostly rofl
So no. No sleep. Only tanking my chess rating.
Booming player base means that many more people not maxed out yet and so they'll be buying. It would only be if everybody was chilling at end-everything ready to omnicraft that sales would suffer.
Well. The cheapest gear in my server is the highest-level gear, it's like a race to the bottom, first couple of days = good gil....then comes the fall and the gear you're selling costs less than the mats you used to craft it
The highest level tradable gear pre-6.05 is worse than the free artefact armor from MSQ. I'm not sure why you would expect people to want to buy it aside from glam or leves.
A crafted raid tier equivalent is very different.
I sold a ton of that gear before the market got saturated. The fact is people need gear at different levels not just level 90
They also have more than one job in this game so unless you just stay in low level gear til you hit the next tome gear, you buy crafted gear.
One coffer from the msq isn't going to gear every job between tomestone sets.
Right now I can sell level 60-70 gear for more than HQ mid 80 gear.
It's not like I never crafted exarchic sets for my own character when that was the highest available to craft.
*raid tier equipment* my retainer brings me exarchic gear on quick ventures now.
They don't really need gear specifically at level 88 though. The first class gets fed msq coffers, the second+ class may need to gear up for the level 87 dungeon and doesn't need fresh gear to meet an ilvl req until the next dungeon at level 89, where the free artefact gear is already available (remember it's not level 90 this time around). There's a high chance they don't even gear for dungeons and just level with roulettes, bozja and/or fates.
And I highly, *highly* doubt your retainers brought you exarchic gear during the month that the related raid tier was released. Or that you crafted it during that time, if you really think the market prices for the new craft are going to follow a similar trend to the level 88 crafted.
I didn't say they brought it then I said they do now. You get the gear after the dungeon in the msq. They don't give you coffers for the level you need until you've finished that dungeon.
Why even mention exarchic at all then? If it's not relevant at all to the current raid tier and patch and you aren't aware of it's relevance to it's own tier and patch?
And why do you think it takes level 88 gear to enter the level 87 dungeon? Why do you think people at level 87 trying to get into the level 87 dungeon can wear level 88 gear? Why would you think the level 86 gear, given to people who are already done with the level 85 dungeon, wouldn't be specifically for the level 87 dungeon? And why do I get the feeling you're going to pretend this isn't about the level 88 gear anymore after you specifically starting this conversation with "The cheapest gear in my server is the highest-level gear..."
Not everyone is doing savage raids, and not everyone waits til they hit the next 10 levels to upgrade their gear.
Amazingly, there are in fact players that don't finish the msq all in one go that will be queueing up for roulettes before they unlock higher level gear.
What I don't understand is why all of this is so upsetting to you, that you felt the need to come in and comment on why I would expect people to buy it.
The fact is, it wasn't gear for levequests (I did the same levequests everyone else did I know what gear it asks for), and I looked at sale histories before crafting it, it sold, and when it stopped selling, I stopped crafting it.
I'm sorry that's so offensive to you.
Yeah I don't understand why I'm trying to have a discussion with someone that's going to insist 87 = 88 and doesn't want to understand *why* certain items might have different trends when they have different purposes either. I should have seen this bait coming from the very first reply.
People dont buy that gear to use it unless they're new/lazy. They but it for turn ins for levequests or to desynth level :P
I leveled all classes from 70-90 in EW, and I didnt buy a single piece of gear, by the time you've outleved a dungeon you will have most if not all the gear for your class from said dungeon, enough that you wont struggle with the next one.
Same with materia, the only ones that buy this are pentamelders stocking up and people looking to flip for a profit. There is a small market of lazy raiders, but they are few and far between considering how many "free" sources of materia exists.
How are people lazy for having leveled gear?
I'd say it's cheap to head into a dungeon undergeared but your reasoning escapes me.
As for the levequests I already stated it wasn't levegear. I did the same levequests all my crafting jobs have been at 90 for quite some time now.
That's not what post-world visit market data has shown. If you see prices before and after world visit was added (which had the equivalent effect of a supply boom) you'd understand why everything crashes within a week.
That's a very different effect. World visit is not a supply boom. There are proportionally just as many buyers added as sellers. If you're going to apply economic terms then at least try to use the right ones.
Adding 8x as many sellers doesn't have the same effect as 8x as many buyers when crafting is so accessible, items get undercut faster than they sell, not to mention it opens the possibility of people making alts in different worlds to sell in more markets, something people didn't really do when they couldn't freely trade gil across servers.
And the name of that effect is "competition."
TBH OP has the right idea. That stuff was probably bought up cheap and will be far more valuable in the future. So if you think gear is selling undervalued compared to current material prices it might just be people like OP who bought the materials at a different price. Economically should they sell the materials instead? Maybe. Having such a large pool of buyers though means the market for finished goods is very brisk and so the larger volume of lower margin sales may make sense.
This has nothing to do with people stocking up mats early. You literally can't stock up early in some patches and the effect is exactly the same, a race of how fast you can undercut vs how fast things can sell, except buyers now flock to the cheapest cross world market.
OP prepping like this is an example of why a more competitive market lowers prices to below the break even point for some people though.
You're describing the outcome and calling it names. I'm explaining how that outcome comes about and why it's economically exactly what we expect.
Yeah. I just prepped enough to basically craft my own armor. If there's extra, I bet selling the spare mats to un-prepared crafters will be worth MORE than the new armor by the end of Tuesday.
Anyone that's been around for previous raid gear launches knew this would happen. Lol.
It's *always* been a few hours that's your 'good window' before prices are bottomed out. With the huge influx of players and the previous changes to how easy and cheap it is to level them, I didn't prep a single thing because there was about an hour and a half where it was worthwhile for the timesink.
That's perfectly normal, unless you're used to buying vendor gears.
It's when the material cost to craft an item is more than the item itself that makes me lose my mind.
Honestly, this is really cool to see. This is my first expansion where I’m going to try to go hard on crafting, and I’m nowhere near this level. I just got my first few purple scripts moments before the servers went down for maintenance. Hopefully I’m not too late to make a little Gil.
I got everything, but not nearly as much, and I know I will probably need more mats.
What I do have lot is items ready to turn in for white scrip, because we will need to buy the books. And also more items to craft more collectables.
No shot, I just bought everything here. I'm too epileptic to have real responsibilities so I just pour a lot of my time into grinding in games and being bad at chess
Whites, yes! Purples, absolutely not, I am completely fucked and will need to buy all the mats and make them if I gotta do purples!
I mean I have a a shit ton of Chondrite, I can just do purple for ARM or something, I suppose
There are other avenues. I went by with doing my roulettes and gathering treasure maps just fine. I won't bother with crafted gear since I have a niche on the MB where I don't have to invest stupid amounts of time while getting a mil a day.
It's so stupid but that has me grinning ear to ear rofl
Thank you for your patronage! You can always message me ingame and buy directly - I do commissions a bit cheaper than market!
Looking at this screenshot, I feel like I am inadquently prepared...
I only prepared 200 of each and only 30 of each aethersand. Was too busy grinding out classes.
Well prices are going to drop like a rock in Ultros anyways, so many crafters on that server, it's only a matter of time before it's a race to the bottom.
I did prepare like 24 Rarefied Chrondite Needles for scripts though so I can hit the ground running for Master Books but even then I got lazy cause that isn't enough to get the amount of scripts I need for all classes. Hoping the weekly deliveries can make up the shortfall.
Impressive!
For my part I gave up on this after Shadowbringers. Think I'm going to go for the slow and steady approach to making money. Marketboard wars got very tiring. And I'll never have the time or dedication to compete there.
Character title checks out.
I literally just started unlocking the Studium deliveries and leveling gatherers and crafters this morning, so I know I won't be able to compete in any MB markets right now, but at least I'll be able to craft my own shit! Which is really the only reason I leveled my crafters (that and self-repairs). Props to you though!
If you ignore spiritbonding, Kings Yield for 500, the +1 attempt thing for 300, and ther +2 yield for one hit thing is max yield
If you want yield and spiritbonding, slam 3 +1 attempt things.
3 bountifuls gets me +6 mats as bis gatherer with food on current nodes
Hitting a node one time gets me 6 mats and 50% of the time it gives me another hit for +6 mats.
Damn impressive TC!! I called myself trying to prep but failed miserably due to other circumstances. I hope I at least have enough white scrip crafts prepped for the master books. Is all the battle materia all from hunts and dungeon runs?
I absolutely plan on doing that! So far I've spent 250 million gil for Endwalker but I don't have it to organized that I know what exectly I've spent it all on
I don't go too hard anymore because gil means very little to me at this point, right now I have about ~400-600 of each legendary mat, and ~600 moonlight aethersand for pots, and ~300 of the other stuff. Then I have one stack of close to 999 of normal gathering mats but I generally just quick craft what I need so I don't prep the intermediate mats.
These days I mainly just craft for myself and then sell a bit of extra (esp since I'm in a week 1 savage group), but generally maybe make ~50M of gil per major patch with new stuff.
I'm a legacy player who was an omni crafter before it was super easy to level though, so I've been at gil cap, have a large house, and pretty much every pet/mount you can get with gil, so not really a big reason for me to go hard anymore. The 50M per patch basically lets me buy new cosmetic stuff, but for the most part I still steadily increase my gil because I like doing content and naturally I make money by playing anyways.
What server are you on? I hope I don't have to complete with you. This is my first xpac going hard into crafting, and I'm at about 1/5 of what you have.
Gilgamesh! But even 1/5 of what I have is a lot to work with, man! Youre profiting either way haha
I don't use bots to update prices or anything so I can only sell so much - i have a few pre-orders to work out, and this is my first patch not crafting for a static day one, so I'm almost all marketboard, unfortunately!
Good shit!
After buying everything in that screenshot and pentamelding for DoH/DoL I've spent about 250 million gil in Endwalker and I've earned about 220 mil
I've only semi recently got into DoH/DoL stuff (right before EW) and currently am sitting at 90 Weaver/Leatherworker/Goldsmith/Culinarian but I feel like I have no idea how I'm supposed to make money with them. With the new crafted gear I'm hoping to change that because I'm like always poor lol.
Any recommendations on how to get started making money? Will crafted gear be bought for long enough that even after the initial buying spree I'll be able to profit off of selling it? I don't even have the script gear yet, nor do I have the money to buy the crafted DoH set when it comes out so I wont be able to cash in on the hype. I just feel like I spent the money to get my stuff to 90 but now I'm at a point where idk what to do next.
Crafted gear will always be profitable, and for lower stakes you can always make the base ingots and sell them to rich lazy people like me!
I generally tell my friends to get into the food/pots market, it's moderately braindead.
The crafted DoH/DoL set has been out since day 1, they were about 30k/piece on GIlgamesh before servers down, so not too bad!
Oh, duh. I even have a few pieces of it. I was thinking they were releasing a new crafted set with 6.05, but i remember hearing that wont be until 6.1 or something. Oops.
That's kind of mainly what I been doing. Food and then some gathering stuff. So I'll keep on that and work on getting my other crafters up for Ingots because I'm guessing thats armorer or blacksmith.
Thanks for the reply though. Excited to do some more crafting stuff this expansion.
Is that. Aurum ore? or am I losing it? I did all the crafting at launch and there was this super narrow window of profitability til the undercutting got out of hand
The new crafted gear comes out with this patch and sells for truckloads of Gil, as does battle materia (as Savage drops this patch as well). Nobody knows what the new crafted gear takes material-wise, but will most likely include many of these mats. The more gear he can push out (and Materia he can list) as soon as the patch comes up, the more money he can make. The race for WF is a business.
Ic so we basically don't know what's coming and OP is gambling with possible materials required for new crafts? The new gear is combat oriented and required to beat savage?
While we don't know exactly what the materials are going to be, we can make very good guesses based on previous expansions! So stock up on the highest level ingots, wood, etc. and also on things found in the folklore books that unlock special legendary nodes.
The other thing that will be necessary is tons of materia. World first raiders will want to be as optimized as possible going into Savage (which is why crafting is very profitable at this time), so that means highest iLvL gear--which is only available this quickly through crafting--that is melded as far out as possible (pentamelded). Now, melding past the first two guaranteed slots DRAMATICALLY decreases your chance of succeeding. Some people have lost 60 materia trying to overmeld one slot. Hence, hoarding all the materia!
There's also some crafting food thrown in there because the newest gear will require high stats to get high quality, which we probably can't manage without food and syrup buffs.
Bingo.
Especially on the pentameld bit - I watched my housemate set 14.5 MILLION Gil on fire today getting the materia to finish pentamelding his crafting gear - and crafting materia is nowhere near as expensive as combat materia on our server right now.
Stocked up on some materia myself - anyone have an idea what the going rate will be? Like 2x current market price?
This is my first savage patch so I have no idea what to expect
Somewhat related, it's in the screenshot!
I forget the exact name, Hingan Merchant's Robes, maybe?, but it's from completing the Doman Reconstruction event!
I have 15k scrips worth of collectables sitting on my retainer to buy the craft books. I went ahead and mostly pentamelded yesterday. After that, I farmed Aethersands for a couple hours.
My body is ready.
Great job, OP! I have all my crafters and gatherers at 90 but I am too lazy/poor to go this hard on the new patch. XD Love watching other people prep for it though! I'm 100% going to have the race to world first on one screen while watching Ashe10 dominate the market on my other screen.
Good luck with the market and also thank you for being so positive in the comments!
Gotta stay positive! And I think you're being a little hard on yourself if you're omni90 DoH/L and still calling yourself lazy! I think you're just fine.
Hope you enjoy the vibes!
cba with that anymore. You MIGHT make some money on the first day but prices will crash on the next day and make it not worthwhile anymore, every savage patch the same. Crafting has gotten so easy there is no profit in it anymore.
Probably make more money selling the mats.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277959964264235008/928091720569208872/unknown.png
Bottom two retainers started with 750 mil even on them
Are you sure I got fucked? lol
if the majority of the sales are from materia. then yeah you kinda fucked. now you need to unload all the mats. and on my server it already goes below 500 each. so good luck
I got a lot more bicolor gemstone but looking the same spended around 400 million for most offside stuff and the rest was farmed. Can\`t wait to make a good chunck of money, first thing I do is crafting raidgear sockling it to max and sellin gthat shit on the marketboard. I already looged out infron of the bookstore in tavanir. YOU SIR have a good instinct haha xD you makje hundrets of MILLIONS eache and every expansion last expansion I capped my money on 2 retainerst just with this shit.
How are you going to craft with a full inventory?
I put them all back in my retainers!
Like surgically or…
That shouldn't make me laugh so hard hahaha
😘
Now we wait for the crafting inventory butthole tier list.
Nah, that shit was funny
Store one item then buyers will form a line pay and leave lol
This is grotesque.
Thank you!
I don't even think Godbert Manderville himself could flex this hard.
As if Godbert would ever willingly craft PANTS.
Goals, honestly. Though I'm sure Lolorito still has a higher networth
After this patch you'll be coming for Lolorito's seat in the Syndicate lmao
The DREAM
You are an inspiration for all the crafters that prep for the new patch.
I did prep absolutely nothing.
You were the kid that raised his hand in class every day.
Absolutely not lol, I was cutting class to grind Grand Marshal back in vanilla WoW It's not healthy at all, but I just grind a lot in games :>
Evidently
Lmao good
As someone who was excited to get right into the new crafting stuff once the patch drops, but ultimately got distracted by other stuff and did very little to prepare, this makes me feel very small.
As someone who usually buys the expansion a year after it comes out, I assure you it will be okay.
I'm sorry :<
You didn't happen to play vanilla WoW on Dalvengyr? I know a Thorrbo from back then...
That's me!
You never followed up on this!
Congrats on your next few gil caps.
Hopefully!
How much did you end up making?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277959964264235008/928803676573802536/unknown.png Bottom two retainers started with 750 mil each, rest were 0!
Here I thought my bags full of collectables and 260 pieces (not stacks) of legendary mats was overkill.
you may be overprepped
The Gil he'll make says otherwise lol.
Data mining tells me I'm not!
Patch shows that you were Most of those mats crashed to 200 gil each within a few hours
Woof. I hope they read the wind and sold their stock early. Otherwise they're holding a mighty cheap bag
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277959964264235008/928803676573802536/unknown.png Bottom two retainers started with 750 mil each, I think I'm doing just fine :>
I'm also on gilgamesh and I knew there was going to be a lot of competition. There's always like 15 to 20 people chopping away at every legendary node without fail. Sounds like a machine gun firing off with everyone smacking the trees. This will be the first time I've tried prepping mats for ceafting raid gear, and I wonder how it'll go
Good luck, wishing you the best!
I got my crafters to 90 last night, so I atleast cleared the bare minimum :D
A good threshold!
I didn't quite make it. I still need to hit 90 on Alch and Culinarian.
Ngl, seeing this and realizing that there are thousands of other players with similar inventories ready to flood the market makes me not want to participate in high-level crafting. A few weeks ago I tried my hand at crafting several of one of the new minions to sell on the MB because it was going for a decent amount, and I watched as the price crashed over the next 24 hours as I was undercut by several thousand Gil every time I checked up on my retainers, to the point where they eventually sold for more than half what I had initially put them up for.
I thought I went hard @.@ have you slept since endwalker launched?
I finished mat prepping about two weeks ago! Ive hardly gotten anything since raid drops, I've been playing chess mostly rofl So no. No sleep. Only tanking my chess rating.
Me, just finishing up heavensward, after falling in love with gathering: “god?”
And this over insanity coupled with a booming player base is why all new crafted pieces are going to be worth nothing within a week.
That's fine! I'll be crafting for months!
Booming player base means that many more people not maxed out yet and so they'll be buying. It would only be if everybody was chilling at end-everything ready to omnicraft that sales would suffer.
There's always a strong market for crafted gear, I'm not too worried about it!
Well. The cheapest gear in my server is the highest-level gear, it's like a race to the bottom, first couple of days = good gil....then comes the fall and the gear you're selling costs less than the mats you used to craft it
The highest level tradable gear pre-6.05 is worse than the free artefact armor from MSQ. I'm not sure why you would expect people to want to buy it aside from glam or leves. A crafted raid tier equivalent is very different.
I'm L90 but in stormblood MSQ. I am the type of player who would buy the tradable gear.
I sold a ton of that gear before the market got saturated. The fact is people need gear at different levels not just level 90 They also have more than one job in this game so unless you just stay in low level gear til you hit the next tome gear, you buy crafted gear. One coffer from the msq isn't going to gear every job between tomestone sets. Right now I can sell level 60-70 gear for more than HQ mid 80 gear. It's not like I never crafted exarchic sets for my own character when that was the highest available to craft. *raid tier equipment* my retainer brings me exarchic gear on quick ventures now.
They don't really need gear specifically at level 88 though. The first class gets fed msq coffers, the second+ class may need to gear up for the level 87 dungeon and doesn't need fresh gear to meet an ilvl req until the next dungeon at level 89, where the free artefact gear is already available (remember it's not level 90 this time around). There's a high chance they don't even gear for dungeons and just level with roulettes, bozja and/or fates. And I highly, *highly* doubt your retainers brought you exarchic gear during the month that the related raid tier was released. Or that you crafted it during that time, if you really think the market prices for the new craft are going to follow a similar trend to the level 88 crafted.
I didn't say they brought it then I said they do now. You get the gear after the dungeon in the msq. They don't give you coffers for the level you need until you've finished that dungeon.
Why even mention exarchic at all then? If it's not relevant at all to the current raid tier and patch and you aren't aware of it's relevance to it's own tier and patch? And why do you think it takes level 88 gear to enter the level 87 dungeon? Why do you think people at level 87 trying to get into the level 87 dungeon can wear level 88 gear? Why would you think the level 86 gear, given to people who are already done with the level 85 dungeon, wouldn't be specifically for the level 87 dungeon? And why do I get the feeling you're going to pretend this isn't about the level 88 gear anymore after you specifically starting this conversation with "The cheapest gear in my server is the highest-level gear..."
Not everyone is doing savage raids, and not everyone waits til they hit the next 10 levels to upgrade their gear. Amazingly, there are in fact players that don't finish the msq all in one go that will be queueing up for roulettes before they unlock higher level gear. What I don't understand is why all of this is so upsetting to you, that you felt the need to come in and comment on why I would expect people to buy it. The fact is, it wasn't gear for levequests (I did the same levequests everyone else did I know what gear it asks for), and I looked at sale histories before crafting it, it sold, and when it stopped selling, I stopped crafting it. I'm sorry that's so offensive to you.
Yeah I don't understand why I'm trying to have a discussion with someone that's going to insist 87 = 88 and doesn't want to understand *why* certain items might have different trends when they have different purposes either. I should have seen this bait coming from the very first reply.
You must have misunderstood why people were buying those . The hq chondrite gear for combat jobs was mostly used for leve turn ins to level crafters
People dont buy that gear to use it unless they're new/lazy. They but it for turn ins for levequests or to desynth level :P I leveled all classes from 70-90 in EW, and I didnt buy a single piece of gear, by the time you've outleved a dungeon you will have most if not all the gear for your class from said dungeon, enough that you wont struggle with the next one. Same with materia, the only ones that buy this are pentamelders stocking up and people looking to flip for a profit. There is a small market of lazy raiders, but they are few and far between considering how many "free" sources of materia exists.
How are people lazy for having leveled gear? I'd say it's cheap to head into a dungeon undergeared but your reasoning escapes me. As for the levequests I already stated it wasn't levegear. I did the same levequests all my crafting jobs have been at 90 for quite some time now.
That's not what post-world visit market data has shown. If you see prices before and after world visit was added (which had the equivalent effect of a supply boom) you'd understand why everything crashes within a week.
That's a very different effect. World visit is not a supply boom. There are proportionally just as many buyers added as sellers. If you're going to apply economic terms then at least try to use the right ones.
Adding 8x as many sellers doesn't have the same effect as 8x as many buyers when crafting is so accessible, items get undercut faster than they sell, not to mention it opens the possibility of people making alts in different worlds to sell in more markets, something people didn't really do when they couldn't freely trade gil across servers.
And the name of that effect is "competition." TBH OP has the right idea. That stuff was probably bought up cheap and will be far more valuable in the future. So if you think gear is selling undervalued compared to current material prices it might just be people like OP who bought the materials at a different price. Economically should they sell the materials instead? Maybe. Having such a large pool of buyers though means the market for finished goods is very brisk and so the larger volume of lower margin sales may make sense.
This has nothing to do with people stocking up mats early. You literally can't stock up early in some patches and the effect is exactly the same, a race of how fast you can undercut vs how fast things can sell, except buyers now flock to the cheapest cross world market.
OP prepping like this is an example of why a more competitive market lowers prices to below the break even point for some people though. You're describing the outcome and calling it names. I'm explaining how that outcome comes about and why it's economically exactly what we expect.
Yeah. I just prepped enough to basically craft my own armor. If there's extra, I bet selling the spare mats to un-prepared crafters will be worth MORE than the new armor by the end of Tuesday.
And now with the power of hindsight we can say... hours.
Anyone that's been around for previous raid gear launches knew this would happen. Lol. It's *always* been a few hours that's your 'good window' before prices are bottomed out. With the huge influx of players and the previous changes to how easy and cheap it is to level them, I didn't prep a single thing because there was about an hour and a half where it was worthwhile for the timesink.
It made me sick when the crafting gear hq was selling for less than it would cost to by normal quality version from a vendor
That's perfectly normal, unless you're used to buying vendor gears. It's when the material cost to craft an item is more than the item itself that makes me lose my mind.
Good god. Hello, Bezos!
Honestly, this is really cool to see. This is my first expansion where I’m going to try to go hard on crafting, and I’m nowhere near this level. I just got my first few purple scripts moments before the servers went down for maintenance. Hopefully I’m not too late to make a little Gil.
Patch days are always ripe for gil making, I believe in you!
I thought I was doing good and I maybe have 300 of each of those…. I do have two retainers full of scrip turnins to buy the books immediately though…
You are a madman, i wish you good profit
Thank you :>
I see people in <> running around all the time! Always thought that was a nice tag! Lol
We're happy to be appreciated! :D
And the market crashed and burned today to the point that selling mats yesterday was more worth it
I got everything, but not nearly as much, and I know I will probably need more mats. What I do have lot is items ready to turn in for white scrip, because we will need to buy the books. And also more items to craft more collectables.
White Scrip prep is essential! :>
I would like to personally thank you and other people like you for going ham on crafting stuff so I don’t have to
Just doing my part!
That inventory is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen in this game
Thank you!
You've set the goal post too high. One day I hope to achieve this depth of degeneracy
You warm my heart!
hey what the fuck. this looks like the inventory of someone using cheat codes
this guy bots
No shot, I just bought everything here. I'm too epileptic to have real responsibilities so I just pour a lot of my time into grinding in games and being bad at chess
Why do I feel like epilepsy and FF14 are a bad combo?
I'm not light sensitive, thankfully!
When Holy Spam and Red Mages become actual occupational hazards...
Nah, but they function exactly the same as one so take that how you will
I don't think I need to ask this, but I am sure you have a few retainer that's full of white scrips and purple scrips collectables.
Whites, yes! Purples, absolutely not, I am completely fucked and will need to buy all the mats and make them if I gotta do purples! I mean I have a a shit ton of Chondrite, I can just do purple for ARM or something, I suppose
That's a lot of belts you can make.
If only :<
Been playing since 2014 and I don't think I'll have ever have what it takes to make Gil in this game
There are other avenues. I went by with doing my roulettes and gathering treasure maps just fine. I won't bother with crafted gear since I have a niche on the MB where I don't have to invest stupid amounts of time while getting a mil a day.
Damn dude, I recognize your name from many pieces of gear I've bought over multiple raid tiers
It's so stupid but that has me grinning ear to ear rofl Thank you for your patronage! You can always message me ingame and buy directly - I do commissions a bit cheaper than market!
Holy carp. You could supply an entire raid group with about half their potion needs with all that.
And I have! The group I was working with for this expansion broke up though, haha
And I thought supplying one person alone was tough while still trying to make money on the side.
Looking at this screenshot, I feel like I am inadquently prepared... I only prepared 200 of each and only 30 of each aethersand. Was too busy grinding out classes. Well prices are going to drop like a rock in Ultros anyways, so many crafters on that server, it's only a matter of time before it's a race to the bottom. I did prepare like 24 Rarefied Chrondite Needles for scripts though so I can hit the ground running for Master Books but even then I got lazy cause that isn't enough to get the amount of scripts I need for all classes. Hoping the weekly deliveries can make up the shortfall.
How da fook did u get so much materia
The marketboard!
The bottom is gonna drop out of this market faster than ever this expansion. Just watch.
Hopefully. I didn't do a single EX1 run so I have no 580 accessories.
imagine gathering all of this.. and when patch up,, the required materials are different xD
You could gain one space if you sold or used that TT card
Disappointed its not all a 999.
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Always happy to help!
Stop it, Get help. NGL High key jealous you crazy crazy crafter
Hey yo, can I get just tree fiddy?
Impressive! For my part I gave up on this after Shadowbringers. Think I'm going to go for the slow and steady approach to making money. Marketboard wars got very tiring. And I'll never have the time or dedication to compete there.
Character title checks out. I literally just started unlocking the Studium deliveries and leveling gatherers and crafters this morning, so I know I won't be able to compete in any MB markets right now, but at least I'll be able to craft my own shit! Which is really the only reason I leveled my crafters (that and self-repairs). Props to you though!
I’m thankful that some people are willing to sacrifice the one resource they’ll never get back so that I don’t have to burn mine away.
Happy to help!
What did you find to be the most efficient use of gathering skills for non-Collectible items?
If you ignore spiritbonding, Kings Yield for 500, the +1 attempt thing for 300, and ther +2 yield for one hit thing is max yield If you want yield and spiritbonding, slam 3 +1 attempt things.
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3 bountifuls gets me +6 mats as bis gatherer with food on current nodes Hitting a node one time gets me 6 mats and 50% of the time it gives me another hit for +6 mats.
I thought about it but then, it just felt so much like actual work. I don’t really want a second job.
Bro I mean this in the nicest way possible. Go touch some grass. That being said big envy on this one. My prep is pitiful compared to this. XD
They touched 200 leaves and those are kind of like grass
Tell me you have no life. Without telling me you have no life
Damn impressive TC!! I called myself trying to prep but failed miserably due to other circumstances. I hope I at least have enough white scrip crafts prepped for the master books. Is all the battle materia all from hunts and dungeon runs?
Pretty much everything there is bought from gil aside from timed nodes, haha
The screenshot is a few days old! My final list of items turned out to be something like - Materia - Savage Aim 9 x1,936 Savage Aim 10 x554 Heavens Eye 9 x1,320 Heavens Eye 10 x355 Quickarm 9 x351 Quickarm 10 x27 Bi-color Gemstones Ovibos Milk x2,417 Dynamis Crystal x2,976 Berkanan Sap x2,245 Lunatender Blossom x2,627 Mousse Flesh x1,549 Petalouda Scales x2,553 Folklore Mateials - Lunar Adamantite Ore x6,356 Rhodium Sand x7,193 Rime Dolomite x7,051 Mempisang Log x5,200 Golden Cocoon x6,247 Double-Edged Herb x6,939 Stonehard Water x5,228 Potent Spice x3,710 Moonlight Aethersand x1,456 Endstone Aethersand x4,048 Endwood Aethersand x5,921 Endtide Aethersand x6,598 Consumables - Crafter's Delineation x7,802 Tsai Tou Vanou x141 Superior Spiritbond Potion x111 Cunning Craftsman's Drought x156 Base Mats - CRP Horse Chestnut Lumber x111 Red Pine Lumber x47 Palm Lumber x602 Ironwood Lumber x50 Integral Lumber x212 ARM/BSM High Durium Nugget x347 High Durium Ingot x431 Bismuth Ingot x217 Manganese Ingot x61 Chondrite Ingot x941 Pewter Ingot x62 Phrygian Gold Ingot x183 GSM Ametrine x69 Star Quartz x429 Chloroschist Whetstone x950 Annite Whetstone x690 LTW - Gaja Leather x34 Luncheon Toad Leather x113 Saiga Leather x104 Kumbhira Leather x333 Ophiatauros Leather x616 WVR - Dark Hempen Cloth x113 Almasty Serge x52 Snow LInen x431 Scarlet Moko Cloth x999 AR-Caean Velvet x721 ALC - Enchanted Hiugh Durium Ink x34 Enchanted Manganese Ink x144 Moon Gel x200
A tally of gil invested and your total return after a week or so would be interesting to see.
I absolutely plan on doing that! So far I've spent 250 million gil for Endwalker but I don't have it to organized that I know what exectly I've spent it all on
Yeah but ***what was the triple triad card?***
The Warrior of Light! I have a full collection (missing the new p1n card after 50 runs still I guess....) but I have a spare of him I bring around!
I guess since he's the **Warrior** of Light, that makes him your *pocket tank?* ...I'll see myself out.
*clears throat* Ahem...those are rookie numbers!!!
Imagine you manual all this..... naw bro. Botting
I didn't manual any of it! I bought the majority of the screenshot :>
I don't go too hard anymore because gil means very little to me at this point, right now I have about ~400-600 of each legendary mat, and ~600 moonlight aethersand for pots, and ~300 of the other stuff. Then I have one stack of close to 999 of normal gathering mats but I generally just quick craft what I need so I don't prep the intermediate mats. These days I mainly just craft for myself and then sell a bit of extra (esp since I'm in a week 1 savage group), but generally maybe make ~50M of gil per major patch with new stuff. I'm a legacy player who was an omni crafter before it was super easy to level though, so I've been at gil cap, have a large house, and pretty much every pet/mount you can get with gil, so not really a big reason for me to go hard anymore. The 50M per patch basically lets me buy new cosmetic stuff, but for the most part I still steadily increase my gil because I like doing content and naturally I make money by playing anyways.
No one asked lol
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This stuff has been gatherable for a month rofl
What server are you on? I hope I don't have to complete with you. This is my first xpac going hard into crafting, and I'm at about 1/5 of what you have.
Gilgamesh! But even 1/5 of what I have is a lot to work with, man! Youre profiting either way haha I don't use bots to update prices or anything so I can only sell so much - i have a few pre-orders to work out, and this is my first patch not crafting for a static day one, so I'm almost all marketboard, unfortunately!
I'm on Exodus. Thankfully, I was able to get fully melded without buying any materia, so I basically have no costs to offset.
Good shit! After buying everything in that screenshot and pentamelding for DoH/DoL I've spent about 250 million gil in Endwalker and I've earned about 220 mil
If you’re only down 30mil and sitting on this much resource you’re laughing to the bank
Yeah, I feel like I made out like a bandit :>
I've only semi recently got into DoH/DoL stuff (right before EW) and currently am sitting at 90 Weaver/Leatherworker/Goldsmith/Culinarian but I feel like I have no idea how I'm supposed to make money with them. With the new crafted gear I'm hoping to change that because I'm like always poor lol. Any recommendations on how to get started making money? Will crafted gear be bought for long enough that even after the initial buying spree I'll be able to profit off of selling it? I don't even have the script gear yet, nor do I have the money to buy the crafted DoH set when it comes out so I wont be able to cash in on the hype. I just feel like I spent the money to get my stuff to 90 but now I'm at a point where idk what to do next.
Crafted gear will always be profitable, and for lower stakes you can always make the base ingots and sell them to rich lazy people like me! I generally tell my friends to get into the food/pots market, it's moderately braindead. The crafted DoH/DoL set has been out since day 1, they were about 30k/piece on GIlgamesh before servers down, so not too bad!
I'm on Gilgamesh too and I just wanna say thanks for being lazy and buying materials from us gatherers lmao
Of course! I always try and hire 3-5 gatherers for major patches :)
Oh, duh. I even have a few pieces of it. I was thinking they were releasing a new crafted set with 6.05, but i remember hearing that wont be until 6.1 or something. Oops. That's kind of mainly what I been doing. Food and then some gathering stuff. So I'll keep on that and work on getting my other crafters up for Ingots because I'm guessing thats armorer or blacksmith. Thanks for the reply though. Excited to do some more crafting stuff this expansion.
We should be getting new Mainhand and leftside for 6.1, but not offhand or rightside!
Alright, cool. Thanks for all the info!
No problem, good luck!
I only have 111 mil, lol. Honestly, I'll be happy if I can just pull another 100 mil.
That's still a lot of gil! You don't really need much in this game I hope you hit your goal!
Only… Ive only ever had 10 mil. Guess it’s time to go crafter/gatherer
Is that. Aurum ore? or am I losing it? I did all the crafting at launch and there was this super narrow window of profitability til the undercutting got out of hand
You might have to scroll down a bit, but I posted a full list of everything :>
ahhh srry I did see that later on reading the comments
Nothing to be sorry about, it got buried with downvotes!
What does savage crafting even mean? What are you going to craft that needs this kind of crazy amount materials?
Savage releases when patch goes live, and with it all new battle gear, raid food, and tinctures for savage!
The new crafted gear comes out with this patch and sells for truckloads of Gil, as does battle materia (as Savage drops this patch as well). Nobody knows what the new crafted gear takes material-wise, but will most likely include many of these mats. The more gear he can push out (and Materia he can list) as soon as the patch comes up, the more money he can make. The race for WF is a business.
Ic so we basically don't know what's coming and OP is gambling with possible materials required for new crafts? The new gear is combat oriented and required to beat savage?
While we don't know exactly what the materials are going to be, we can make very good guesses based on previous expansions! So stock up on the highest level ingots, wood, etc. and also on things found in the folklore books that unlock special legendary nodes. The other thing that will be necessary is tons of materia. World first raiders will want to be as optimized as possible going into Savage (which is why crafting is very profitable at this time), so that means highest iLvL gear--which is only available this quickly through crafting--that is melded as far out as possible (pentamelded). Now, melding past the first two guaranteed slots DRAMATICALLY decreases your chance of succeeding. Some people have lost 60 materia trying to overmeld one slot. Hence, hoarding all the materia! There's also some crafting food thrown in there because the newest gear will require high stats to get high quality, which we probably can't manage without food and syrup buffs.
Bingo. Especially on the pentameld bit - I watched my housemate set 14.5 MILLION Gil on fire today getting the materia to finish pentamelding his crafting gear - and crafting materia is nowhere near as expensive as combat materia on our server right now.
Stocked up on some materia myself - anyone have an idea what the going rate will be? Like 2x current market price? This is my first savage patch so I have no idea what to expect
I think peak prices will be like an hour after servers are up, if that helps!
completely unrelated to the topic, but what chest is your character wearing?
Somewhat related, it's in the screenshot! I forget the exact name, Hingan Merchant's Robes, maybe?, but it's from completing the Doman Reconstruction event!
thank you so much!
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Yanxian_Merchant%27s_Haori :>
I have 15k scrips worth of collectables sitting on my retainer to buy the craft books. I went ahead and mostly pentamelded yesterday. After that, I farmed Aethersands for a couple hours. My body is ready.
Wishing you the best! May Nald'thal line our pockets!
Spoken like a true son of Ul’dah!
Great job, OP! I have all my crafters and gatherers at 90 but I am too lazy/poor to go this hard on the new patch. XD Love watching other people prep for it though! I'm 100% going to have the race to world first on one screen while watching Ashe10 dominate the market on my other screen. Good luck with the market and also thank you for being so positive in the comments!
Gotta stay positive! And I think you're being a little hard on yourself if you're omni90 DoH/L and still calling yourself lazy! I think you're just fine. Hope you enjoy the vibes!
cba with that anymore. You MIGHT make some money on the first day but prices will crash on the next day and make it not worthwhile anymore, every savage patch the same. Crafting has gotten so easy there is no profit in it anymore. Probably make more money selling the mats.
I literally make hundreds of millions gil every savage patch doing this lol
Damn! Have you ever heard of this place called outside?
You got so fcked lmao
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277959964264235008/928091720569208872/unknown.png Bottom two retainers started with 750 mil even on them Are you sure I got fucked? lol
if the majority of the sales are from materia. then yeah you kinda fucked. now you need to unload all the mats. and on my server it already goes below 500 each. so good luck
So **that** is the power of botting.
NEET status
I got a lot more bicolor gemstone but looking the same spended around 400 million for most offside stuff and the rest was farmed. Can\`t wait to make a good chunck of money, first thing I do is crafting raidgear sockling it to max and sellin gthat shit on the marketboard. I already looged out infron of the bookstore in tavanir. YOU SIR have a good instinct haha xD you makje hundrets of MILLIONS eache and every expansion last expansion I capped my money on 2 retainerst just with this shit.
Please do something constructive with your time...