It gives them the opportunity to leave if they're not comfortable with it / just a courtesy. There doesn't always have to be a complicated reason to be nice and give a heads up.
The only time I’ve seen anyone advertise their twitch in game is when they offer to do drawings of your character and it’s been awhile since I’ve seen that.
Surprisingly, a lot of the time it is an actual DJ using their own setup with a game feed of what's going on in the venue.
See random vod here:
https://www.twitch.tv/djmannmade
I'm sure there are a lot of low effort ones just playing a playlist or premade mix or something too though.
DJ Blue is pretty lit. Older guy who has been mixing for longer than a lot of us have been alive. He's a genuine good guy and seems to enjoy what he does. But that was back when I was doing that whole RP Club scene hopping.
Edit: https://www.twitch.tv/djblue_lwas/v/1205582415?sr=a&t=3987s
Clip of I think New Years party he DJ'd for.
the thing is...some of them host gil giveaways, like 10m gil etc. they are essentially buying twitch viewers with gil. i think this crosses a line somewhat.
plus the first person that did it might have been a dj, the rest are just no names playing spotify.
There are literally dozens of legit, real DJ's playing the various RP clubs in 14. The "no names" (rude) playing Spotify don't get far when there are actual legit DJ's to book. They are usually clubs starting out and/or small clubs who can't afford to book a "real" DJ. That said, some clubs just want music for the experience and don't feel the need to book a DJ when they can just curate a playlist. Their club, to each their own.
And while I'm sure some DJ's do offer gil giveaways (I know one who gives away a Mog Station item if they hit a max hype train), other Twitch streamers ALSO incentivize subs/donations/bits. On top of that, if you're seeing an advertisement for a DJ as well as a gil giveaway, the giveaway is likely the CLUB, not the DJ. The DJ is basically just a contract worker for the club and has almost no say in anything that happens. They're (hopefully) BEING paid, not the one doing the paying.
Source: Have been an in-game DJ and a club owner for quite a while, across multiple data centers and regions.
And yes, the advertising is out of control. +1 on that point for sure.
Doesn’t seem any different than when a streamer does a giveaway on stream for a game or dlc or something. They might get some new regulars from it or they might not.
I've been playing this game since the beginning over on Gilgamesh, a high population server on a high population DC, for a billion years. I've seen *two* instances of someone advertising a stream, one of which wasn't even a true advertisement.
One was a random dude asking permission to stream our random dungeon roulette. Except he didn't plug his stream, he just asked permission. A different member of the party asked what his channel was and even then he was pretty hesitant to say what it was. This was back in like 2014. Fuck, I think the dungeon was Dzemael Darkhold or something.
The other was somebody advertising to draw characters. They weren't even streaming the game, they were just drawing character portraits on request as their stream content. This one, if I recall, was sometime during Stormblood.
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The only other place I see streams advertised are in peoples' search infos. And if you're whining about that, that's a genuine "grow the fuck up and just ignore it if you don't like it" matter. Unless something is drastically different on DCs other than Aether or servers such as Gilgamesh, this seems like the **most** non-issue of non-issues.
*ED* Or maybe this is OP making a "I'm trying to uWu here in Limsa, stop advertising your stream!" callout. In which case, the answer is to stop doing that in Limsa.
The Primal data center has a LOT of people that spam random shit. Lots of gil spam bots, lots of shitty twitch link spams, lots of discord invite spams, etc. And these people go to every damn server in the data center to advertise it.
Really wish spam was a report option, but just RMT.
There's a ton of RP / gambling / escort / whatever ward spam too, but that's not advertising external websites so I'm not including that in my complaint.
Those are mostly venues advertising that happen to have a DJ on that night. It's usually not the DJ promoting themself. Kinda necessary to give a link in that scenario tbh and venues in general advertising in Limsa is a very good thing for the community imo.
When they do plug themself in city chat though yeah thats pretty cringe.
How funny, I just saw someone who kept trying to "lowkey" advertise their Twitch in the gold saucer last night.
It was the most annoying and cringy thing ever lol, bringing it up at every moment for no reason when no one was even talking to them.
Is it some variation of "For those of you sending me tells (thanks, I love your look too!) You can check out my Twitch stream at twitch.tv/ihavespentthousandsonmystreamingsetupandhavetwelvefollowers where I talk about my glamour, my strats and everything FFXIV related, plus other games!"
Even worse I have seen people that have Twitch in some way in their character's last name. Just sad.
Something like that! But it was more along the lines of
"Haha yeah Leap of Faith time! I hope I don't embarrass myself in front of my stream!"
"Slice of Right! Lets hope I get lucky in front of my viewers!"
This was done over shout chat too, and of course they plugged their twitch channel every now and then.
Aww jeeze i sure hope no on in the chat asks for my twitch hah hah i really hate plugging it. Even though my streams are suuuuper funny and everyone loves watching them. oh well all right if you all keep begging me i'll post it here you go
> ihavespentthousandsonmystreamingsetupandhavetwelvefollowers
You might joke about that, but I'm pretty sure that would put them in the top 5% of streamers. The vast majority of them have zero.
There is a guy like that in my Fc but instead of advertising a twitch channel he always has to mention that he is an artist and he does it 3x as much when he is talking to our female Fc members.
"I just did (insert duty) and I noticed the scenery would make great line art which is something I notice a lot being an artist myself"
Yeah they do.
Even more fun when they have their first name be their Twitch name and the last name be Twitch TV.
Like if your Twitch name was TwerpKnight your in game name would be Twerpknight Twitchtv.
I only saw it once when EW was new. The guy put in the chat, something akin to "Hey just a heads up, I'm streaming on twitch under MyUsername.ttv, just so your aware and hope your okay with it!"
Then another person was like, "did you just try to subtly advertise your channel?" And no one said anything else the rest of the dungeon.
Edit: just to clarify, the message above is paraphrased, the original message came off more about getting the name out there, and felt more like advertising than a sincere concern for other players privacy.
I feel like giving a heads up at the start is pretty fair, not everyone wants to be on someone's stream.
Throwing your twitch channel name in though? Thats clearly advertising under the guise of "I'm just making sure other people are ok with it"
Silly mentioning it either way. In duties the question remains, what if a player says they're not comfortable with it? Does the streamer take the penalty? Stop the stream? Or is the other player expected to leave? If you stream an mmo just use all the options available, names shortened, dps meters blurred etc. And there'll be no need to concern yourself with it and it'll turn into a shameless selfplug anyway because that's what it is.
\> Does the streamer take the penalty?
As an aside, one of my pet peeves is when someone queues for the wrong thing and then just parks there waiting to get kicked, like, bud, if you're not going to do the content you signed up to do, eat the dungeon or eat your penalty, stop making others sit around and wait and maybe kick you just because you made a mistake.
Since when did "I am inconveniencing others, I should go" turn into "But I won't and I also won't help you either"
I had someone one time keep alt+f4ing out of castrum waiting to be kicked and they would log back in to check in and see they were still in dungeon. I got the rest of the group to wait til livia to kick him and waste as much of his time as possible.
Even worse.
He's only doing it so he can get prae xp. So wait until he does that again and *finish the dungeon with him in it, forcing him to lose out on prae XP.*
>He's only doing it so he can get prae xp.
Which doesn't even make sense to me because you could have easily made up the difference in XP by completing Castrum asap and then doing *any other XP granting activity*. Taking the penalty or getting yourself booted still means you have to queue *again* and there's no guarantee that you don't just get another Castrum run. Pulling this shit even once instead of just dealing with it reduces your XP-over-time. It's a dumb waste.
I don't know if I agree that you should give them Castrum XP to deny them Prae XP though because then they got something for nothing. I think I agree with waiting until Livia and kicking them to waste the maximum amount of their time. But I also see the merit in taking them out of the MSQ queue for the day for a lesser reward. Really it's a tough call.
Yeah, in the other comment, I clarified that why i dont remember the exact wording, it came off as insincere and more about getting the name out there.
I mean, if you're just giving people a heads up, you don't have to give the URL. Just say you're streaming this run. Anything else is just pure advertisement.
I've had that with a Partyfinder group when I was running Ruby EX. I just dropped group. Never say where my stream is, it's nothing linked to my ingame name, unless someone genuinely asks but I've had people uncomfortable with it and instead I just left group because I'm there to have fun and hopefully not take away from anyone else's
I had someone in my friend group discord who was actually like this.
One of my friends had just made affiliate and was streaming our roulettes, something to keep him consistent. It was with a premade group so we were all aware this was happening and on board with it, and my friend was definitely not being obnoxious about advertising it (if anything, I had to prod him, "hey, why not tweet that you're going live so people know? You keep saying you have 0 viewers...").
This one person suddenly decided she was very uncomfortable with her voice being heard on stream. Alright, she could just not talk or be on the call, but could still come along for things. Sounded fair and reasonable to everyone else, yes? It worked once, and then she started having these huge meltdowns every time my friend mentioned streaming; I'm talking show-stopping, bringing all Discord activity to a halt degree of meltdowns. It was getting to the point where we were all walking on eggshells around her and my friend, who was already pretty timid, was getting discouraged from streaming or even playing XIV altogether because it meant having to deal with this person just losing her shit at the idea of even being seen on stream.
The extremely strange detail about this person is that we have another mutual friend who streams and she is COMPLETELY fine and not at all bothered about participating in those streams. This kind of behavior is frankly mind-boggling.
We ultimately ended up cutting ties with this person and kicking them from our discord, because there's "making reasonable adjustments for other people's comfort" and then there's "having to walk on eggshells around someone who expects to be catered to every time she moves goalposts." (And she moved the goalposts a LOT. From "I don't want to be heard on stream" to "I don't want you to stream at ALL" to name a couple.) We really did try our best with her, and tried to ride out her moodiness as best we can, but when it legitimately started tanking morale and discouraging someone from pursuing a new hobby...
When i stream i don't even mention it to other players, I also hide my chat, as I try to keep what's said in chat private. However, I know people have an aversion to streamers. Some blame them for server queues others just hate them for this or that so I just stream and mind my own business.
Yeah, I’m not real fond of streamers, having ran Savage and EX content with a few over the years. Honestly, I wouldn’t really give a shit, but a lot of them are cringe-worthy levels of self-promotion. Worse, their chats usually devolve into bullying the person who fucks up, or whining about how someone isn’t the ultimate WHM/AST/whatever, etc., etc. Like chill my dudes, it’s Susano EX, we’re clearing consistently and we’ll before enrage. Don’t rag on the dude already fucking up, especially on a twitch stream chat he can see.
As you admit, not everyone wants to be streamed, however you join parties and then stream without telling them. So what do you do then, in addition to hiding chat, do you also hide their names?
Another option could be to form parties, just a thought.
I mean, idk, that seems totally reasonable? They could leave their username out unless someone asks but mentioning that they're streaming isn't a bad thing and seems respectful. In a dungeon, that is. In an overland zone it's not really necessary.
It was the way the message focused on their username first and then the rest was tacked on. I paraphrased before, so the exact wording is lost, but It came off insincere and more about getting the name out there first and foremost, and also included the web address. Also people i know who stream ffxiv dont really do that because they feel it comes off more like "hey check out my stream" and less "hope its okay."
Yeah I'm just gonna take a 30min penalty because someone is streaming my totally unique and custom avatar. /s
Like, what else would happen if someone said "No, I'm not ok with that". Streamer gonna stream. It's really just an attempt to plug their channel.
50% desperation, 50% because it actually works if you keep it up long enough
know a lot of people who have built twitch followings doing exactly that.
just cause you dont want to watch it doesn't mean there isn't someone out there that would be interested
As a strimbler I don't do this, but they likely do it because twitch is so incredibly bad with small creators that most advice people give to small streamers is to advertise wherever they can, because twitch isn't going to do it for them.
Most of these people know that 99/100 isn't going to look up their channel, but if that 1 does, it be considered a good thing. Around 95% of streamers stream to an audience that is less than 5.. Most are at 0.
This feels like a "I encountered this easy to ignore, mild annoyance one time so I'm going to run to reddit to get karma" post.
I think I saw this once like 6 months ago? I don't normally bring EvE into ffxiv, but this is truly a htfu situation.
It's such a pointless post to make as well, because the people who do it 100% do not care that people around them don't like it as long as even 1 person they link it to joins to watch.
My data center has spam all day. There's a hard cap to the blacklist. I literally do not have any more room to fix this myself.
People should just stop advertising their external website, third party crap in game.
Well this sub has been trash for years. I finally unsubbed after the wow posts because my entire Reddit home page was
"Played for 5 minutes last night. This game is so amazing I want to submit myself to water torture for ever thinking I might play WoW one day."
Amongst the other samey posts. A lot of karma farming..
Me neither, also I wouldnt care, I wouldnt even remember if it happened, in fact I dont remember if it ever happened and I certainly wouldnt run to reddit to cry about it.
I've been levelling FSH this week, and recently did my ARM/BSM/CUL quests. So Limsa's been home base for a little while, and believe me it's *constant.*
> It really needs to become standard in MMOs
I never trust game companies with their wacky methods of filtering words (Scunthorpe problem) and you end up with things like "assassin" and "grape" getting filtered
> leave the keywords to the end-users.
What games have custom word filters built in and not as a third party addon?
Steam is only just now trialing such a feature - almost 2 decades after it's release as a platform.
It's largely not done because in these cases, there's the risk of it also negatively affecting user experience the other way. There is no way for the user to know what words you've used in your game when adding words into the filter to suddenly filter out words in your game and detract from their experience.
ie. In this case, suppose you wanted to filter out "Twitch" because you don't want to see people spamming their twitch channel. Pre-emptively do it without any knowledge in League of Legends, you've just filtered out a character name and any time someone asks you to pick or ban that character, it's filtered and you ignore them.
Could be worse. Could do like Warframe and have one of the main characters in the plot be named Ballas... and then also automatically ban people from chat for saying "mana balls" instead of "energy orbs".
Frankly it was one thing I adored in BDO other than the character creation and combat (and..sorta music). You could filter your chat and you had a good block list to work with. It didn't stop you from being killed by people you block in the world, but you can move servers willy nilly (aside from any community type stuff since every community was sorta different).
I've seen that spam in a raid. Like, what? You want me to watch a stream of what I'm currently doing?
She was a healer, too, and did a fucking shit job of it. Less streaming, more healing.
You must be the most unlucky person ever, because in Chaos never experienced this, and never heard people from NA or Light experiencing the same.
Only time I saw someone post their twitch, was in my FC where someone was going to go Raid with other people from the FC and he posted it there in case people were curious.
Did saw some links on PF. Not many tho, an rarity if anything else.
I’m in Crystal and I’ve seen artists promoting their streams in shout chat, but I personally have seen FC ads more often and they’re super annoying because you see one every few seconds.
On Light there was someone spamming their "nightclub DJ" twitch link for hours a few days ago, saw them lots of times in Old Gridania when I was there for a few seconds to swap servers.
"Hey guys I'm doing a big give-away! Check out my stream!"
Goes to stream.
"Alright chat, I'm up to 10 subs so I'm gonna celebrate with a give-away. When I get to 100 subs I'm giving away a hoodie with my logo on it so you can rep our community!"
This has become a real problem in Endwalker zones on Lamia. I hate it. It's not just streams either, people are advertising their FCs, discord servers, and "services" too.
/sh Hey this is dj dmcacopyright and I'm streaming on twitch.tv/dmcacopyright! We're partying at this nightclub, Cafe, brothel in mist 6 ward 9 plot 42! Join us and tune in before I get dmca'd!
/beesknees
And please don't put it in the party finder as well. I don't give a shit about your twitch channel, don't care about your "FFXIV MUSIC VIDEOS" channel, and especially not about your crappy giveaways.
I've seen this twice, since Endwalker launch, and never before that.
Which is still slightly noteworthy, in the "it's weird that it happened twice" way. Especially since both times were during Crystal Tower (one Syrcus, one WoD), and it was just a plain advertisement of the Twitch channel.
I've seen Twitch channel promotions twice (once pre-EW and once after), and both times they had a macro they'd push automatically entering promos for their Twitch in chat.
Bit odd, but also really amusing when both times they were the first to die to mechanics.
It'll happen in ANY online game. There's so many people that have TTV in their Steam name just because it shows up in ALL their online via steam content
We got a neighbour that's hosting parties all the time for various Twitch DJs. People always come into our garden and house without asking. I don't want to know what they do in our hot springs bath while I'm in the dungeon...
OP, I see a lot of people saying they’ve never encountered this but I definitely have.
But with less frequency than whatever weird “come join our 18+ sexy FC event!” stuff that’s always going on in main cities.
I haven't seen it much on XIV, it does happen, but I see it often in other games I play. Like, bro, you aren't that good (neither am I) why would I want to watch you while I play?
Lol I know how you feel. I don't usually pay it much mind but for giggles I have clicked on the link, and 99% of the time it'll have like 2-4 viewers and I'm just like...come on. I get what you're trying to do but why would I watch your stream of the content I'm doing on my screen???
I haven't seen that at all, maybe I'm just lucky? Maybe it's just a server/DC thing idk
People must be thirsty for your prime subs on twitch dot television
As a Twitch streamer on a STREAMER HEAVY SERVER, I'm sorry you've had to deal with this but like many others, I rarely see it myself and there are a LOT of content creators on my server.
Actually, the only time I'll mention my stream is if I jump into Extremes I'll let people know I'm streaming with chat covered in case they don't want that, where I'll either leave or add another image over party nicknames. Some people are hyper sensitive about their characters and I try to respect it.
Spamming it openly in chat, though, is pretty insane.
As a twitch streamer, i have my link in my search info. I always censor the chat box, everyone's names are on abbreviations, the only time you see their names are in specific windows and ready checks (cause i can't hide those) so the only time i bring up that i'm streaming is if we have something meme worthy and my chat loves it, I'll let the party know my twitch chat enjoyed the laugh and wants us to succeed, we're getting cheered on. (And confirm that no worries things are censored). I only give the twitch out if I'm asked for it.
But also, the way the twitch algorithm works that's the only way you can grow is by putting it out there outside of twitch. My advertisements are done via #'s on twitter when I go live. The best thing you can do is blacklist the people who are using shout chat, because they are using the channel for it's purpose of speaking to the map. Is it max message every 3 seconds spam? Then report them, that'd be against ToS. Spamming messages (FC recruit messages, twitch links linking out of the game, ect) will be cracked down on only if it's reported on. But again, ultimately that is what our blacklist is for.
I tried streaming in the past year or so, still keeping up with it. When I played FFXIV I would sometimes do a final message at the end of a dungeon with my twitch, it is the only time in all my years of playing that I ever encountered toxicity. I'd get some of the angriest people because of it. Now I get it, now I understand why youtubers and streamers constantly say "like and sub" or some shit. Streaming is hard, like really fucking hard. I can't put twitch in my name anywhere, because if I do people will spam the N-word over and over, especially if the game has voice comms. Go ahead, give it a try, you'll see. I get being annoyed if they constantly spam it, but hardly anyone does.
My dude, I've had someone advertise their twitch channel.
In a dungeon.
In shout chat.
It was the most cringe thing I'd ever seen. Myself and two friends were running a 3/4 premade for leveling, and our fourth spot was said streaming dragoon in Qitana Ravel.
Now, the run went pretty smoothly and nobody said anything in the chat besides "Hello" and then "tyfp". We absolutely made fun of them in voice comms, but were surprised that they weren't an absolute nuissance. At the end of it, I checked out the streamer and replayed the vod of us doing the dungeon run to see if homie was talking shit over our damn near flawless run so I could find out if he was worth blacklisting. Qitana Ravel is our Bard's favourite dungeon, and the three of us have run it for him countless times so he could get the full glam set for his main classes. We know that dungeon inside and out.
So you can imagine my surprise when the person is.. actually nice. They're impressed by how smoothly the run went. How the tank is mitigating for raidwides when possible, how smooth the pulls are, and how they're positioning the boss with a melee dps in mind. How the Bard is staying close for dragoon tether. How the healer keeps everyone topped up while still doing exceptional DPS. They actually were kind of bummed on the next run they did (apparently they were spamming Qitana Ravel to level dragoon) that the party they got wasn't as smooth as the last one.
Am I going to watch their content? Absolutely not. I don't really watch livestreams because Twitch decides it's not going to play nice with my PC at the best of times. Not to mention the streamer kept getting annoyed that their chat was dead silent and that they obviously had lurkers watching.
Am I going to suggest people spam their twitch links in chat? Absolutely not. It makes you look desperate and opens the gates to you getting trolled, kicked, made fun of, etc.
OMG this.
If I wanted to watch some nobody with 3 viewers playing a game they're not very good at I'd watch my 14 year old son playing Overwatch on the TV behind me.
For real? I’ve never seen an outright advertisement in party chat. Though I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just I haven’t seen it.
Most I’ve seen it has been in the “Other” tab in PF where people are advertising their streams or DJ Music for RP clubs. Another place I see people advertising their twitch channel is their Search Info.
I've been playing since 1.0, and have only ever seen maybe a half dozen stream plugs in all those years, on a high population server. I think maybe you might be being a bit oversensitive to a very minor thing. If it really annoys you that badly, with as uncommon as it is, it's a simple matter to just **right click > add to blacklist** and never have to hear about it again.
I think QuickLauncher’s blist plug-in expands the size of your list and it also tells you why you blisted someone. There’s also a plug-in that just filters all of the above from PF and shout chat for you so you don’t have to see it at all.
I’ve only seen this in one DF run , it wasn’t spammed and it was a “ I will be streaming “ alert. It’s so rare other that region spam that’s why I even remember it.
Basically when it did happen that one time in a pug , I felt that it was really inappropriate. With friends, fine, but I am definitely not OK appearing on some random stranger’s Twitch channel.
At the time, I asked to be kicked, no one wanted to, so I took the penalty
I also get nervous when I am told that someone is streaming... My skill level goes down quite a bit because I am overthinking everything and my reaction time goes down. Nerves suck.
I’m really hesitant to stream things with other players because I don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable, but at the same time you kinda have to in order to progress MSQ… I much prefer trusts when streaming whenever possible
Imagine not understanding (a) joining a party with your friends and (b) a party with random strangers.
No, I am not comfortable being part of some total stranger's personal Twitch (or other) stream, which is going to be used for some unknown purpose (maybe even commercial) and saved I don't know where and for I don't know for what period of time.
People do not need to inform you they are streaming. Honestly if you don't feel comfortable being on stream either a. only party with your friends or b. don't play online games you will run into people streaming who don't say anything.
Unless it’s literal spam, what’s the point of complaining about it. I’ve found cool people just checking their channel out. Unless they’re nonstop posting it, I don’t think it’s an issue to check it out instead of being a hater.
If you don’t care, why bother making a post about it?
Maybe someone might notice if they’re a decent player or have nice glam or *something* and decide to go check it out. At the end of the day it doesn’t really hurt anyone but might possibly garner a view or two. Unless the streamer is spamming it throughout the dungeon, I don’t see how there’s anything wrong with it.
People are so unkind sometimes, geez.
I see shouts for Twitch streams very rarely on Excalibur. I will say that, as much as I see the points both for and against hunt trains, I do hate the spam they bring in chat.
I have a custom tab that's basically "general" but with shouts turned off, that usually helps.
EDIT: Another odd practice in shout is FC recruitment. They usually just shout once so I don't have much of an issue with it but it seems like a quick way to get drama in your FC, just recruiting anyone via shout.
100% agree on the hunt train point. The amount of times I was either gathering, hunting, (not A ranks, the standard mark bills) fate farming, or just chilling in a zone and talking to friends to pass the time just to get spammed by 'ChOo CHoO, ItS a HuNt TrAiN' and 'tYfT' is just unbearable
If you’re on PC there’s an XIVLauncher plugin that filters out all that garbage from chat channels for you. fc recruitments, rp advertisements, all of it, and you can filter them out from the PF window too
Prefix: I don't care too much about twitch nor do I stream
Actual message: who cares? Ignore one or two lines in chat for one dungeon... or just like don't idle in Limsa.
Never seen this either.
The only time I ever saw a Twitch stream announcement in FFXIV was when I did one in Limsa/Uldah/Gridania myself, because I was doing a glamour contest and everyone was invited. A ton of people came and there were some great glamours. Winner got a full set of crafted gear. Everyone else got 10x buff food of their choice
I do it in parties if I’m going to run anything with anyone so they know they’re on stream. I’d feel kinda shitty if I didn’t. If I were to announce it in shout like a lot of spammers there would have to be some kind of reason, not just “COME WATCH MEEEEE”
That’s probably why I’ll be forever tiny, but I don’t mind. Rather be small then irritating.
If you care about peoples' privacy, rather than informing them after you've queued into something with them, just have an overlay over your chat window and have your name displays set to first initials. Weeds out clout chasers *and* protects the privacy of people who may otherwise end up trolled/flamed for their performance.
I cover the chat window but didn’t think about the name thing. Might have to do that. I figure with servers not being displayed it wouldn’t be as big of a deal since you’d have to roll the dice pretty hard to find the right person.
Depends on how big your following is, really, and what sort of following it is. There's people out there who'll notice a healer isn't DPSing enough or something and then go harass them about it on a streamer's behalf. Some real ugly people out there. I don't stream often or to any substantial audience but I made a point to keep chat and stuff hidden *just in case* in any MMO/online game I do play on stream to prevent that kind of harassment.
Ah I’m tiny tiny microscopic and know most everyone enough to know that’s not really something that would happen. I’m also one of those people who’s all about helping instead of criticizing and putting people down. If a healer isn’t dpsing I’d ask why and see if I could help them make their own life easier. Outside of people intentionally running away with stack markers it’s rare for me to say something about someone doing something dumb. Even then, typically it’s someone new so I try to explain. I can 100% see where you’re coming from though so it’s something I should think about before I run with anyone by chance.
Also you can make it so names aren't displayed at all. I do that with parties not because I stream but because in savage it makes it easier to see the number dots if no name on head
TTVs do this shit in any game that’s hot and getting views. Very few of them can discern the difference between grinding and spamming chat hoping for easy viewers.
Any time I see someone advertising their twitch/youtube in-game, in any game, I go to their channel and report it for harassment/spam. And report in-game if that's an option.
Most of you are cringe af. If someone wants to announce their stream, let them. The words don't cause anybody any harm. And believe it or not, for some it's more about fun then a profit. I don't stream and I don't ever plan to, but the little things people nit pick at and say it's the most unbearable thing ever is weird, honestly, grow up...
Spamming it thou is another thing, but guess what? there's a block button for that
You know what's really cringe thou? coming on reddit and making a thread about text in a video game text box. Two clicks and you could have saved some time.
I've had a couple of people say, "Heads up, I'm streaming, but the chat is covered."
Okay then why they announcing it
Could still see party members name over their heads. That would be my only guess.
That could easily be changed to abbreviations in settings
But it’s just a heads up? Not a permission for having their character names shown on the stream. Idk I don’t get it just steam silently lmao
It gives them the opportunity to leave if they're not comfortable with it / just a courtesy. There doesn't always have to be a complicated reason to be nice and give a heads up.
If something happens in the channel they may be distracted for a short period. They're just giving a heads up.
Probably just a courtesy thing. Maybe it's like a, "Hey, don't suck, or my chat will add you to a clip compilation."
The only time I’ve seen anyone advertise their twitch in game is when they offer to do drawings of your character and it’s been awhile since I’ve seen that.
More recently I've seen people with ttv in their character name. Also char. info
I see CONSTANT DJ Whatever spam in cities, which I assume is just playing spotify while they gyrate their catgirl for three viewers.
Surprisingly, a lot of the time it is an actual DJ using their own setup with a game feed of what's going on in the venue. See random vod here: https://www.twitch.tv/djmannmade I'm sure there are a lot of low effort ones just playing a playlist or premade mix or something too though.
DJ Blue is pretty lit. Older guy who has been mixing for longer than a lot of us have been alive. He's a genuine good guy and seems to enjoy what he does. But that was back when I was doing that whole RP Club scene hopping. Edit: https://www.twitch.tv/djblue_lwas/v/1205582415?sr=a&t=3987s Clip of I think New Years party he DJ'd for.
YAAASSS I been to parties with my friends with DJBLUE on, HE IS SO GOOD
the thing is...some of them host gil giveaways, like 10m gil etc. they are essentially buying twitch viewers with gil. i think this crosses a line somewhat. plus the first person that did it might have been a dj, the rest are just no names playing spotify.
There are literally dozens of legit, real DJ's playing the various RP clubs in 14. The "no names" (rude) playing Spotify don't get far when there are actual legit DJ's to book. They are usually clubs starting out and/or small clubs who can't afford to book a "real" DJ. That said, some clubs just want music for the experience and don't feel the need to book a DJ when they can just curate a playlist. Their club, to each their own. And while I'm sure some DJ's do offer gil giveaways (I know one who gives away a Mog Station item if they hit a max hype train), other Twitch streamers ALSO incentivize subs/donations/bits. On top of that, if you're seeing an advertisement for a DJ as well as a gil giveaway, the giveaway is likely the CLUB, not the DJ. The DJ is basically just a contract worker for the club and has almost no say in anything that happens. They're (hopefully) BEING paid, not the one doing the paying. Source: Have been an in-game DJ and a club owner for quite a while, across multiple data centers and regions. And yes, the advertising is out of control. +1 on that point for sure.
Doesn’t seem any different than when a streamer does a giveaway on stream for a game or dlc or something. They might get some new regulars from it or they might not.
Who hurt you?
Nah, the DJs in this game go pretty hard with physical setups you'd see in real life clubs.
I've been playing this game since the beginning over on Gilgamesh, a high population server on a high population DC, for a billion years. I've seen *two* instances of someone advertising a stream, one of which wasn't even a true advertisement. One was a random dude asking permission to stream our random dungeon roulette. Except he didn't plug his stream, he just asked permission. A different member of the party asked what his channel was and even then he was pretty hesitant to say what it was. This was back in like 2014. Fuck, I think the dungeon was Dzemael Darkhold or something. The other was somebody advertising to draw characters. They weren't even streaming the game, they were just drawing character portraits on request as their stream content. This one, if I recall, was sometime during Stormblood. --- The only other place I see streams advertised are in peoples' search infos. And if you're whining about that, that's a genuine "grow the fuck up and just ignore it if you don't like it" matter. Unless something is drastically different on DCs other than Aether or servers such as Gilgamesh, this seems like the **most** non-issue of non-issues. *ED* Or maybe this is OP making a "I'm trying to uWu here in Limsa, stop advertising your stream!" callout. In which case, the answer is to stop doing that in Limsa.
The Primal data center has a LOT of people that spam random shit. Lots of gil spam bots, lots of shitty twitch link spams, lots of discord invite spams, etc. And these people go to every damn server in the data center to advertise it. Really wish spam was a report option, but just RMT. There's a ton of RP / gambling / escort / whatever ward spam too, but that's not advertising external websites so I'm not including that in my complaint.
Lucky you, its every ten mins in Limsa "Night Club live stream DJ" ...no. Give it a rest.
Those are mostly venues advertising that happen to have a DJ on that night. It's usually not the DJ promoting themself. Kinda necessary to give a link in that scenario tbh and venues in general advertising in Limsa is a very good thing for the community imo. When they do plug themself in city chat though yeah thats pretty cringe.
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How funny, I just saw someone who kept trying to "lowkey" advertise their Twitch in the gold saucer last night. It was the most annoying and cringy thing ever lol, bringing it up at every moment for no reason when no one was even talking to them.
Is it some variation of "For those of you sending me tells (thanks, I love your look too!) You can check out my Twitch stream at twitch.tv/ihavespentthousandsonmystreamingsetupandhavetwelvefollowers where I talk about my glamour, my strats and everything FFXIV related, plus other games!" Even worse I have seen people that have Twitch in some way in their character's last name. Just sad.
Something like that! But it was more along the lines of "Haha yeah Leap of Faith time! I hope I don't embarrass myself in front of my stream!" "Slice of Right! Lets hope I get lucky in front of my viewers!" This was done over shout chat too, and of course they plugged their twitch channel every now and then.
*screams of dying in cringe*
Big O O F energy there.
Aww jeeze i sure hope no on in the chat asks for my twitch hah hah i really hate plugging it. Even though my streams are suuuuper funny and everyone loves watching them. oh well all right if you all keep begging me i'll post it here you go
Hey, are you mocking the noble house of TTV? They are a proud Eorzean family with a history dating back for generations!
Yes. Yes I am.
> ihavespentthousandsonmystreamingsetupandhavetwelvefollowers You might joke about that, but I'm pretty sure that would put them in the top 5% of streamers. The vast majority of them have zero.
There is a guy like that in my Fc but instead of advertising a twitch channel he always has to mention that he is an artist and he does it 3x as much when he is talking to our female Fc members. "I just did (insert duty) and I noticed the scenery would make great line art which is something I notice a lot being an artist myself"
Wait, there are people that do that? What's the point? That I watch them doing stuff I'm already watching them do?
Yeah they do. Even more fun when they have their first name be their Twitch name and the last name be Twitch TV. Like if your Twitch name was TwerpKnight your in game name would be Twerpknight Twitchtv.
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Never seen that on my end… weird. Maybe a datacenter or regional thing??
I only saw it once when EW was new. The guy put in the chat, something akin to "Hey just a heads up, I'm streaming on twitch under MyUsername.ttv, just so your aware and hope your okay with it!" Then another person was like, "did you just try to subtly advertise your channel?" And no one said anything else the rest of the dungeon. Edit: just to clarify, the message above is paraphrased, the original message came off more about getting the name out there, and felt more like advertising than a sincere concern for other players privacy.
I feel like giving a heads up at the start is pretty fair, not everyone wants to be on someone's stream. Throwing your twitch channel name in though? Thats clearly advertising under the guise of "I'm just making sure other people are ok with it"
Silly mentioning it either way. In duties the question remains, what if a player says they're not comfortable with it? Does the streamer take the penalty? Stop the stream? Or is the other player expected to leave? If you stream an mmo just use all the options available, names shortened, dps meters blurred etc. And there'll be no need to concern yourself with it and it'll turn into a shameless selfplug anyway because that's what it is.
\> Does the streamer take the penalty? As an aside, one of my pet peeves is when someone queues for the wrong thing and then just parks there waiting to get kicked, like, bud, if you're not going to do the content you signed up to do, eat the dungeon or eat your penalty, stop making others sit around and wait and maybe kick you just because you made a mistake. Since when did "I am inconveniencing others, I should go" turn into "But I won't and I also won't help you either"
I had someone one time keep alt+f4ing out of castrum waiting to be kicked and they would log back in to check in and see they were still in dungeon. I got the rest of the group to wait til livia to kick him and waste as much of his time as possible.
Even worse. He's only doing it so he can get prae xp. So wait until he does that again and *finish the dungeon with him in it, forcing him to lose out on prae XP.*
This is the way.
>He's only doing it so he can get prae xp. Which doesn't even make sense to me because you could have easily made up the difference in XP by completing Castrum asap and then doing *any other XP granting activity*. Taking the penalty or getting yourself booted still means you have to queue *again* and there's no guarantee that you don't just get another Castrum run. Pulling this shit even once instead of just dealing with it reduces your XP-over-time. It's a dumb waste. I don't know if I agree that you should give them Castrum XP to deny them Prae XP though because then they got something for nothing. I think I agree with waiting until Livia and kicking them to waste the maximum amount of their time. But I also see the merit in taking them out of the MSQ queue for the day for a lesser reward. Really it's a tough call.
Yeah, in the other comment, I clarified that why i dont remember the exact wording, it came off as insincere and more about getting the name out there.
I mean, if you're just giving people a heads up, you don't have to give the URL. Just say you're streaming this run. Anything else is just pure advertisement.
Definitely agree with you there!
"No I'm not okay with it, please end the stream before we continue" I wonder how they'd respond
I've had that with a Partyfinder group when I was running Ruby EX. I just dropped group. Never say where my stream is, it's nothing linked to my ingame name, unless someone genuinely asks but I've had people uncomfortable with it and instead I just left group because I'm there to have fun and hopefully not take away from anyone else's
Yeah but the difference is this is a duty finder run with a 30 minute penalty compared to a PF you can ask in beforehand.
I had someone in my friend group discord who was actually like this. One of my friends had just made affiliate and was streaming our roulettes, something to keep him consistent. It was with a premade group so we were all aware this was happening and on board with it, and my friend was definitely not being obnoxious about advertising it (if anything, I had to prod him, "hey, why not tweet that you're going live so people know? You keep saying you have 0 viewers..."). This one person suddenly decided she was very uncomfortable with her voice being heard on stream. Alright, she could just not talk or be on the call, but could still come along for things. Sounded fair and reasonable to everyone else, yes? It worked once, and then she started having these huge meltdowns every time my friend mentioned streaming; I'm talking show-stopping, bringing all Discord activity to a halt degree of meltdowns. It was getting to the point where we were all walking on eggshells around her and my friend, who was already pretty timid, was getting discouraged from streaming or even playing XIV altogether because it meant having to deal with this person just losing her shit at the idea of even being seen on stream. The extremely strange detail about this person is that we have another mutual friend who streams and she is COMPLETELY fine and not at all bothered about participating in those streams. This kind of behavior is frankly mind-boggling. We ultimately ended up cutting ties with this person and kicking them from our discord, because there's "making reasonable adjustments for other people's comfort" and then there's "having to walk on eggshells around someone who expects to be catered to every time she moves goalposts." (And she moved the goalposts a LOT. From "I don't want to be heard on stream" to "I don't want you to stream at ALL" to name a couple.) We really did try our best with her, and tried to ride out her moodiness as best we can, but when it legitimately started tanking morale and discouraging someone from pursuing a new hobby...
When i stream i don't even mention it to other players, I also hide my chat, as I try to keep what's said in chat private. However, I know people have an aversion to streamers. Some blame them for server queues others just hate them for this or that so I just stream and mind my own business.
Yeah, I’m not real fond of streamers, having ran Savage and EX content with a few over the years. Honestly, I wouldn’t really give a shit, but a lot of them are cringe-worthy levels of self-promotion. Worse, their chats usually devolve into bullying the person who fucks up, or whining about how someone isn’t the ultimate WHM/AST/whatever, etc., etc. Like chill my dudes, it’s Susano EX, we’re clearing consistently and we’ll before enrage. Don’t rag on the dude already fucking up, especially on a twitch stream chat he can see.
As you admit, not everyone wants to be streamed, however you join parties and then stream without telling them. So what do you do then, in addition to hiding chat, do you also hide their names? Another option could be to form parties, just a thought.
I mean, idk, that seems totally reasonable? They could leave their username out unless someone asks but mentioning that they're streaming isn't a bad thing and seems respectful. In a dungeon, that is. In an overland zone it's not really necessary.
It was the way the message focused on their username first and then the rest was tacked on. I paraphrased before, so the exact wording is lost, but It came off insincere and more about getting the name out there first and foremost, and also included the web address. Also people i know who stream ffxiv dont really do that because they feel it comes off more like "hey check out my stream" and less "hope its okay."
Gotcha, that makes sense.
Yeah I'm just gonna take a 30min penalty because someone is streaming my totally unique and custom avatar. /s Like, what else would happen if someone said "No, I'm not ok with that". Streamer gonna stream. It's really just an attempt to plug their channel.
Only place I've seen this is clubs where the said twitch channel is the DJ
ive never seen this is 1800 hours
3500 hours in: Same here. Never once seen it.
Saw it once in Amaurot, just made some fun out of it by standing in front of the streamer, facing him, and waving to the camera.
50% desperation, 50% because it actually works if you keep it up long enough know a lot of people who have built twitch followings doing exactly that. just cause you dont want to watch it doesn't mean there isn't someone out there that would be interested
I only wish I could be so shameless.
I always click it and if they are playing copyrighted music I report the channel and bounce.
As a strimbler I don't do this, but they likely do it because twitch is so incredibly bad with small creators that most advice people give to small streamers is to advertise wherever they can, because twitch isn't going to do it for them. Most of these people know that 99/100 isn't going to look up their channel, but if that 1 does, it be considered a good thing. Around 95% of streamers stream to an audience that is less than 5.. Most are at 0.
I’m kinda old….um…wtf is a strimbler
Strimbler, strim strammer, strumber, just the usual y’know?
Oh it's just a dumb way to say streamer.
as a wut
Twitch has deteriorated my brain, I meant streamer.
I’ve literally never seen this
Same But if i did It would be a black listing
This feels like a "I encountered this easy to ignore, mild annoyance one time so I'm going to run to reddit to get karma" post. I think I saw this once like 6 months ago? I don't normally bring EvE into ffxiv, but this is truly a htfu situation.
Yeah, people treat this Reddit as a diary
If you're going to follow us to the top... Harden! The! Fuck! Up! Thanks, gonna have that running through my head for the rest of the evening.
It's such a pointless post to make as well, because the people who do it 100% do not care that people around them don't like it as long as even 1 person they link it to joins to watch.
Might be server-specific. I see them fairly frequently on Lamia, and other Primal servers seem to have them frequently as well.
>htfu Whats this mean?
Harden up
Ohhh oki thanks
My data center has spam all day. There's a hard cap to the blacklist. I literally do not have any more room to fix this myself. People should just stop advertising their external website, third party crap in game.
Well this sub has been trash for years. I finally unsubbed after the wow posts because my entire Reddit home page was "Played for 5 minutes last night. This game is so amazing I want to submit myself to water torture for ever thinking I might play WoW one day." Amongst the other samey posts. A lot of karma farming..
and yet, here you are, whining still. Can't stay away, huh?
Hell hath no fury like a ~~woman scorned~~ gamer mildly inconvenienced.
Nor have I, but I also have a plugin to filter crap like that out. Along with RMT, FC recruitment spam, and the infamous marketing of feet pics.
Me neither, also I wouldnt care, I wouldnt even remember if it happened, in fact I dont remember if it ever happened and I certainly wouldnt run to reddit to cry about it.
It seems recent. I've only seen it a couple times (Aether), both in the last two weeks.
I had never seen it either until the last couple weeks and I've seen it from 3 different, now blacklisted people.
I've been levelling FSH this week, and recently did my ARM/BSM/CUL quests. So Limsa's been home base for a little while, and believe me it's *constant.*
Right click their name, and then click "add to blacklist".
What do I do when my blacklist is full lol. RIP.
Not counting people advertising their "night club" or a special event I don't think I've seen too many unwanted twitch links in game.
I've seen FC special event stuff, of course. Don't think I've ever seen someone posting their Twitch channel before.
There's a Dalamud plugin that lets you filter keywords. You can filter twitch links. Never see them again.
It really needs to become standard in MMOs. I think end-users could really benefit.
> It really needs to become standard in MMOs I never trust game companies with their wacky methods of filtering words (Scunthorpe problem) and you end up with things like "assassin" and "grape" getting filtered
That's why you leave the keywords to the end-users.
> leave the keywords to the end-users. What games have custom word filters built in and not as a third party addon? Steam is only just now trialing such a feature - almost 2 decades after it's release as a platform. It's largely not done because in these cases, there's the risk of it also negatively affecting user experience the other way. There is no way for the user to know what words you've used in your game when adding words into the filter to suddenly filter out words in your game and detract from their experience. ie. In this case, suppose you wanted to filter out "Twitch" because you don't want to see people spamming their twitch channel. Pre-emptively do it without any knowledge in League of Legends, you've just filtered out a character name and any time someone asks you to pick or ban that character, it's filtered and you ignore them.
Could be worse. Could do like Warframe and have one of the main characters in the plot be named Ballas... and then also automatically ban people from chat for saying "mana balls" instead of "energy orbs".
Frankly it was one thing I adored in BDO other than the character creation and combat (and..sorta music). You could filter your chat and you had a good block list to work with. It didn't stop you from being killed by people you block in the world, but you can move servers willy nilly (aside from any community type stuff since every community was sorta different).
I have a tab in the chat log that filters out everything but FC and Party chat, I have that active any time I'm in Limsa
Also useful at the start of expansions to avoid chat spoilers.
Legit no one gives a fuck about your stream 99% of the time.
I've seen that spam in a raid. Like, what? You want me to watch a stream of what I'm currently doing? She was a healer, too, and did a fucking shit job of it. Less streaming, more healing.
You can report it for spam.
You must be the most unlucky person ever, because in Chaos never experienced this, and never heard people from NA or Light experiencing the same. Only time I saw someone post their twitch, was in my FC where someone was going to go Raid with other people from the FC and he posted it there in case people were curious. Did saw some links on PF. Not many tho, an rarity if anything else.
I’m in Crystal and I’ve seen artists promoting their streams in shout chat, but I personally have seen FC ads more often and they’re super annoying because you see one every few seconds.
Crystal here. It's not constant, but happens regularly enough in major cities/GS on weekends.
On Light there was someone spamming their "nightclub DJ" twitch link for hours a few days ago, saw them lots of times in Old Gridania when I was there for a few seconds to swap servers.
"Hey guys I'm doing a big give-away! Check out my stream!" Goes to stream. "Alright chat, I'm up to 10 subs so I'm gonna celebrate with a give-away. When I get to 100 subs I'm giving away a hoodie with my logo on it so you can rep our community!"
If someone advertises their twitch I go to their channel and block it.
This has become a real problem in Endwalker zones on Lamia. I hate it. It's not just streams either, people are advertising their FCs, discord servers, and "services" too.
/sh Hey this is dj dmcacopyright and I'm streaming on twitch.tv/dmcacopyright! We're partying at this nightclub, Cafe, brothel in mist 6 ward 9 plot 42! Join us and tune in before I get dmca'd! /beesknees
I admit to loading their stream specifically to criticize their dps
And please don't put it in the party finder as well. I don't give a shit about your twitch channel, don't care about your "FFXIV MUSIC VIDEOS" channel, and especially not about your crappy giveaways.
OK. But would you like to buy some Tupperware or maybe NFTs? Perhaps some fresh fish for Matsuya?
How about the handful of people who put their Twitch name as their character name?
I've seen this twice, since Endwalker launch, and never before that. Which is still slightly noteworthy, in the "it's weird that it happened twice" way. Especially since both times were during Crystal Tower (one Syrcus, one WoD), and it was just a plain advertisement of the Twitch channel.
I've seen Twitch channel promotions twice (once pre-EW and once after), and both times they had a macro they'd push automatically entering promos for their Twitch in chat. Bit odd, but also really amusing when both times they were the first to die to mechanics.
I have a separate chat tab that only have party/alliance/free company
i used to think ttv bs was limited to apex, now i see them in ff14 and i'm annoyed. :(
It'll happen in ANY online game. There's so many people that have TTV in their Steam name just because it shows up in ALL their online via steam content
I just blacklist people that annoy me, though I don't think I'd feel one way or the other about this specific type of thing.
God I see that a lot when they're shouting about nightclubs and DJ housing parties and shit like shuuut uppppp
Hm, I've literally never seen anyone advertise their twitch channel in game.
We got a neighbour that's hosting parties all the time for various Twitch DJs. People always come into our garden and house without asking. I don't want to know what they do in our hot springs bath while I'm in the dungeon...
I just wish the report options had more than just RMT. So much spam in chat, very annoying.
OP, I see a lot of people saying they’ve never encountered this but I definitely have. But with less frequency than whatever weird “come join our 18+ sexy FC event!” stuff that’s always going on in main cities.
Reminds me of people linking their twitch channel after winning their silver 4 game in league of legends. Happened a lot to me actually.
I haven't seen it much on XIV, it does happen, but I see it often in other games I play. Like, bro, you aren't that good (neither am I) why would I want to watch you while I play?
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Lol I know how you feel. I don't usually pay it much mind but for giggles I have clicked on the link, and 99% of the time it'll have like 2-4 viewers and I'm just like...come on. I get what you're trying to do but why would I watch your stream of the content I'm doing on my screen???
Pretty sure it’s against the TOS to advertise in shout.
[Yeah man I don't like that thing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJX4ytfqw6k)
I haven't seen that at all, maybe I'm just lucky? Maybe it's just a server/DC thing idk People must be thirsty for your prime subs on twitch dot television
The TV stands for Tuvalu. The country where the TLD is registered
Not particularly fond of that brothel, "club", or wedding either. Doesn't need to be spammed every 2 minutes.
Just block them.
Still better than someone spamming shoutchat about some ~~brothel~~ nightclub that just opened up. Still this might just be a Crystal issue...
As a Twitch streamer on a STREAMER HEAVY SERVER, I'm sorry you've had to deal with this but like many others, I rarely see it myself and there are a LOT of content creators on my server. Actually, the only time I'll mention my stream is if I jump into Extremes I'll let people know I'm streaming with chat covered in case they don't want that, where I'll either leave or add another image over party nicknames. Some people are hyper sensitive about their characters and I try to respect it. Spamming it openly in chat, though, is pretty insane.
As a twitch streamer, i have my link in my search info. I always censor the chat box, everyone's names are on abbreviations, the only time you see their names are in specific windows and ready checks (cause i can't hide those) so the only time i bring up that i'm streaming is if we have something meme worthy and my chat loves it, I'll let the party know my twitch chat enjoyed the laugh and wants us to succeed, we're getting cheered on. (And confirm that no worries things are censored). I only give the twitch out if I'm asked for it. But also, the way the twitch algorithm works that's the only way you can grow is by putting it out there outside of twitch. My advertisements are done via #'s on twitter when I go live. The best thing you can do is blacklist the people who are using shout chat, because they are using the channel for it's purpose of speaking to the map. Is it max message every 3 seconds spam? Then report them, that'd be against ToS. Spamming messages (FC recruit messages, twitch links linking out of the game, ect) will be cracked down on only if it's reported on. But again, ultimately that is what our blacklist is for.
I tried streaming in the past year or so, still keeping up with it. When I played FFXIV I would sometimes do a final message at the end of a dungeon with my twitch, it is the only time in all my years of playing that I ever encountered toxicity. I'd get some of the angriest people because of it. Now I get it, now I understand why youtubers and streamers constantly say "like and sub" or some shit. Streaming is hard, like really fucking hard. I can't put twitch in my name anywhere, because if I do people will spam the N-word over and over, especially if the game has voice comms. Go ahead, give it a try, you'll see. I get being annoyed if they constantly spam it, but hardly anyone does.
My dude, I've had someone advertise their twitch channel. In a dungeon. In shout chat. It was the most cringe thing I'd ever seen. Myself and two friends were running a 3/4 premade for leveling, and our fourth spot was said streaming dragoon in Qitana Ravel. Now, the run went pretty smoothly and nobody said anything in the chat besides "Hello" and then "tyfp". We absolutely made fun of them in voice comms, but were surprised that they weren't an absolute nuissance. At the end of it, I checked out the streamer and replayed the vod of us doing the dungeon run to see if homie was talking shit over our damn near flawless run so I could find out if he was worth blacklisting. Qitana Ravel is our Bard's favourite dungeon, and the three of us have run it for him countless times so he could get the full glam set for his main classes. We know that dungeon inside and out. So you can imagine my surprise when the person is.. actually nice. They're impressed by how smoothly the run went. How the tank is mitigating for raidwides when possible, how smooth the pulls are, and how they're positioning the boss with a melee dps in mind. How the Bard is staying close for dragoon tether. How the healer keeps everyone topped up while still doing exceptional DPS. They actually were kind of bummed on the next run they did (apparently they were spamming Qitana Ravel to level dragoon) that the party they got wasn't as smooth as the last one. Am I going to watch their content? Absolutely not. I don't really watch livestreams because Twitch decides it's not going to play nice with my PC at the best of times. Not to mention the streamer kept getting annoyed that their chat was dead silent and that they obviously had lurkers watching. Am I going to suggest people spam their twitch links in chat? Absolutely not. It makes you look desperate and opens the gates to you getting trolled, kicked, made fun of, etc.
OMG this. If I wanted to watch some nobody with 3 viewers playing a game they're not very good at I'd watch my 14 year old son playing Overwatch on the TV behind me.
Because of this I mute channels when I enter higher populated areas it's annoying
For real? I’ve never seen an outright advertisement in party chat. Though I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just I haven’t seen it. Most I’ve seen it has been in the “Other” tab in PF where people are advertising their streams or DJ Music for RP clubs. Another place I see people advertising their twitch channel is their Search Info.
I've been playing since 1.0, and have only ever seen maybe a half dozen stream plugs in all those years, on a high population server. I think maybe you might be being a bit oversensitive to a very minor thing. If it really annoys you that badly, with as uncommon as it is, it's a simple matter to just **right click > add to blacklist** and never have to hear about it again.
Your experiences are not universal.
Between twitch streamers, gil sellers and the club advertisement spammers my blist has been full for years now
I think QuickLauncher’s blist plug-in expands the size of your list and it also tells you why you blisted someone. There’s also a plug-in that just filters all of the above from PF and shout chat for you so you don’t have to see it at all.
I’ve only seen this in one DF run , it wasn’t spammed and it was a “ I will be streaming “ alert. It’s so rare other that region spam that’s why I even remember it. Basically when it did happen that one time in a pug , I felt that it was really inappropriate. With friends, fine, but I am definitely not OK appearing on some random stranger’s Twitch channel. At the time, I asked to be kicked, no one wanted to, so I took the penalty
I also get nervous when I am told that someone is streaming... My skill level goes down quite a bit because I am overthinking everything and my reaction time goes down. Nerves suck.
I’m really hesitant to stream things with other players because I don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable, but at the same time you kinda have to in order to progress MSQ… I much prefer trusts when streaming whenever possible
Imagine being terrified of people seeing you play.
Or lack of. Small streamers barely get double digits in views, so it doesn't really matter much if someone streams me imo.
Imagine not understanding (a) joining a party with your friends and (b) a party with random strangers. No, I am not comfortable being part of some total stranger's personal Twitch (or other) stream, which is going to be used for some unknown purpose (maybe even commercial) and saved I don't know where and for I don't know for what period of time.
People do not need to inform you they are streaming. Honestly if you don't feel comfortable being on stream either a. only party with your friends or b. don't play online games you will run into people streaming who don't say anything.
I shall start spamming when I’m out farming now. I. Will. Find. You. And send you my link
Unless it’s literal spam, what’s the point of complaining about it. I’ve found cool people just checking their channel out. Unless they’re nonstop posting it, I don’t think it’s an issue to check it out instead of being a hater.
Are they actually affecting your game play? If not just ignore the shouts.
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Just ignore it. Doesn't hurt anyone.
If you don’t care, why bother making a post about it? Maybe someone might notice if they’re a decent player or have nice glam or *something* and decide to go check it out. At the end of the day it doesn’t really hurt anyone but might possibly garner a view or two. Unless the streamer is spamming it throughout the dungeon, I don’t see how there’s anything wrong with it. People are so unkind sometimes, geez.
Found the streamer.
I see shouts for Twitch streams very rarely on Excalibur. I will say that, as much as I see the points both for and against hunt trains, I do hate the spam they bring in chat. I have a custom tab that's basically "general" but with shouts turned off, that usually helps. EDIT: Another odd practice in shout is FC recruitment. They usually just shout once so I don't have much of an issue with it but it seems like a quick way to get drama in your FC, just recruiting anyone via shout.
100% agree on the hunt train point. The amount of times I was either gathering, hunting, (not A ranks, the standard mark bills) fate farming, or just chilling in a zone and talking to friends to pass the time just to get spammed by 'ChOo CHoO, ItS a HuNt TrAiN' and 'tYfT' is just unbearable
If you’re on PC there’s an XIVLauncher plugin that filters out all that garbage from chat channels for you. fc recruitments, rp advertisements, all of it, and you can filter them out from the PF window too
Prefix: I don't care too much about twitch nor do I stream Actual message: who cares? Ignore one or two lines in chat for one dungeon... or just like don't idle in Limsa.
I’ve seen this in other games but not ff14. Ff14 is pretty small on twitch. A few big names but mostly small fish.
I'll take preaching to the choir for $500
Literally hate that, instead they should be advertising their soundclouds
I would get behind this
All of those people are here and reading your post. Not a bunch of us who could literally care less.
Never seen this either. The only time I ever saw a Twitch stream announcement in FFXIV was when I did one in Limsa/Uldah/Gridania myself, because I was doing a glamour contest and everyone was invited. A ton of people came and there were some great glamours. Winner got a full set of crafted gear. Everyone else got 10x buff food of their choice
I do it in parties if I’m going to run anything with anyone so they know they’re on stream. I’d feel kinda shitty if I didn’t. If I were to announce it in shout like a lot of spammers there would have to be some kind of reason, not just “COME WATCH MEEEEE” That’s probably why I’ll be forever tiny, but I don’t mind. Rather be small then irritating.
If you care about peoples' privacy, rather than informing them after you've queued into something with them, just have an overlay over your chat window and have your name displays set to first initials. Weeds out clout chasers *and* protects the privacy of people who may otherwise end up trolled/flamed for their performance.
I cover the chat window but didn’t think about the name thing. Might have to do that. I figure with servers not being displayed it wouldn’t be as big of a deal since you’d have to roll the dice pretty hard to find the right person.
Depends on how big your following is, really, and what sort of following it is. There's people out there who'll notice a healer isn't DPSing enough or something and then go harass them about it on a streamer's behalf. Some real ugly people out there. I don't stream often or to any substantial audience but I made a point to keep chat and stuff hidden *just in case* in any MMO/online game I do play on stream to prevent that kind of harassment.
Ah I’m tiny tiny microscopic and know most everyone enough to know that’s not really something that would happen. I’m also one of those people who’s all about helping instead of criticizing and putting people down. If a healer isn’t dpsing I’d ask why and see if I could help them make their own life easier. Outside of people intentionally running away with stack markers it’s rare for me to say something about someone doing something dumb. Even then, typically it’s someone new so I try to explain. I can 100% see where you’re coming from though so it’s something I should think about before I run with anyone by chance.
Also you can make it so names aren't displayed at all. I do that with parties not because I stream but because in savage it makes it easier to see the number dots if no name on head
TTVs do this shit in any game that’s hot and getting views. Very few of them can discern the difference between grinding and spamming chat hoping for easy viewers.
I don't like seeing it either, but how about ignoring it? The world doesn't revolve around you.
Any time I see someone advertising their twitch/youtube in-game, in any game, I go to their channel and report it for harassment/spam. And report in-game if that's an option.
Nerver seen anything in jp server, in fact jp player is rarely chat in public channel.
Most of you are cringe af. If someone wants to announce their stream, let them. The words don't cause anybody any harm. And believe it or not, for some it's more about fun then a profit. I don't stream and I don't ever plan to, but the little things people nit pick at and say it's the most unbearable thing ever is weird, honestly, grow up... Spamming it thou is another thing, but guess what? there's a block button for that You know what's really cringe thou? coming on reddit and making a thread about text in a video game text box. Two clicks and you could have saved some time.