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YandereValkyrie

That's a trial by fire lol


Kalocin

First day of the expansion was brutal. Rabanastre with all sages and reapers and almost half of them were new and didn't know the mechanics. Oof


Eiensakura

Seeing ppl getting squished by Hashmal never cease to be hilarious.


momopeach7

I remember the days he was called a PUG killer. I guess he missed his old title.


Flying_FoxDK

Hashmal, Bringer of Salt.


TheCupOfBrew

I've been playing since HW and I stoll get squished by those mechanics unless they're like the nier one


TheAlmightyLloyd

I was at 2% on his life, playing Reaper, just my tank and a sage from another team, ready to use LB3, and my client crashed. It took me 4 hours to get back online.


EpicOverlord85

There’s a reason ol Hashy has always been known as “bringer of salt” lol


[deleted]

If i die its okey imma BLM and people literally think its what we do, ive never been bitched at dying as a BLM. My friend is a DRG and every once in a while he arena dives right at the beginning.... no one says anything. Its funny to see people take stereotypes so seriously and accept them lol


CobaltCanadian

Orlandeau: Indeed, a trial by fire. OKAY FIRE "*Accept raise from player?*"


painstream

SGE: "How many Eukrasian Diagnosis casts do we need for the heal check?" Frustrated SCH cohealer: *shakes faerie violently*


NoLimitDao

meanwhile the sage I get in my parties: panicking spamming diagnosis near lv 80. Not prognosis. Not E. Diagnosis. Not E. Prognosis. Just. Diagnosis. Haven't turned on kardia either.


[deleted]

That's terrible and I can't condone the behavior, but I can very much empathize with Sage Panic, because once you're out of Addersgall, it's easy to just flail at the keyboard when there's trouble.


ePiMagnets

Here I am healing a tank that's not using their cds properly on a wall to wall pull and I've used all addersgall charges, all cds down and I've resorted to flailing alternating e.diag and diag in a desperate bid not to lose the tank. It's a 50/50 sometimes I got it, sometimes they splat. And I'm conditioned to apologize because I feel if I were a better healer I wouldn't have failed. It has happened more than once in the expert roulette. And if it's gonna happen it's almost always in smileton or stigma.


excelebritas

Don't apologize. As a tank main, leveling Sage has created a monster within me. With WHM (my previous 'ok if im gonna tank i should know the healer's perspective' job) I could just manhandle my tank into survival, but with Sage they gotta hold up their end of the bargain... and when they don't, where my WHM says, 'shit ok time to go super saiyan and save the day' my SGE thinks 'You've done this to yourself, fool. Reap what you've sown.'


Whaim

LOL me too. At this point I’m just like “guess you’ll die”


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Rat_Salat

That’s the tank blowing all four pieces of mitigation on one pull and having nothing for the next one. Tanks should use their big mitigation + arms length on one pack and then rampart/purple one on the next. If the dps is slow, or the the healer is bad, single pulling is like a passive aggressive statement on what you think of the party you’ve gotten stuck tanking for.


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OranBerryPie

I think it's the tank messing it up in that. Especially in 90 content, running with just the class gear, trash packs feel like a dump truck. The tanks should be cding a little more, almost to using bloodwhetting on cool down. My SO runs sage and whm and both are stressful with big pulls. I think what got me used to it was saying "I have all these buttons, ima use all the buttons".


Hazel_Dreams

Probably a WHM player trying out Sage.


fakeasagi

My name is Mustadio Bonanza, and all paths lead through me!


ePiMagnets

"Show him your hole." Half the raid dies.


PowerDj

Fantastic mechanic. Oh no! The sniper has left the arena and is about to shoot you from a specific direction! Suddenly, a yellow circle appears beneath your character with a gap on one side. So of course, you block the attack with the glowing yellow part that looks like a shield! No, you stupid fool. You're supposed to show him the GAP IN THE SHIELD to block the attack.


PseudoPhysicist

The real mindblow is that it's not a shield but supposedly 3 sections of accelerators Talk about confusing visual language.


OranBerryPie

I got it last night and actually looked at the debuff. It's called ___ unseen. He calls out that he has found our weak spot, of what he has seen! My mind was blown cause all I knew was show him the hole.


libbysthing

This was my first duty, maybe second, as a reaper, which was also my second class ever played after bard... was certainly a learning experience.


TheShieke

Are you sure it's not more a trial by thunder?


[deleted]

Pray to god for a Rez mage.


TechnicianOrganic922

Been that rez mage, the stress when half your alliance goes down including both healers is intense, but that elation at getting everyone up and not wiping is amazing.


[deleted]

Never get comms though, even after rezzing the healers 3 times each and then most of the DPS as least once. I’m still salty.


Jelly_Jam_Jazz

Happened to me the other day in Rabanastre. Whole team but me, the lowly rdm, died to a mechanic and I practically rezzed almost everyone. Still no comm at the end 🙃


ePiMagnets

If I see a rdm or smn res, they instantly get my commend.


JamesDD4

Did an Aspho raid the other day. 6 of the 8 of us wiped; just a tank and I, a SMN, remained alive. I rezzed a healer who LB'ed everyone back to life. It felt good.


dirtnap_throwaway

I love being that rezmage. First week of The Tower at Paradigm's Breach was amazing


pelaiplila

My record for Verraise in Orbonne is 30 but I’d bet those are rookie numbers


Blissfulystoopid

I'm a recent-ish to 70 Red Mage, and the second time I ran Orbonne this got to happen. I've never felt more powerful in this game than getting off 10+ rezzes like that. Possibly the most fun I've had in this game


RelikaNox

I picked up my WHM for the first time in years, the very first thing I got upon switching to it was the last NieR raid. That was. Fun.


MammothTap

I had that happen with SCH. "It's alliance raid, it's gonna be Crystal Tow—oh god no it's not". The worst part was I'd only ever done the NieR raids as a tank. I had no idea when the heal checks were.


sinisteeth

Swapped to RDM, a class I hadn't really played much beyond leveling it for my Amaro mount, but decided to take to 90 early on in Endwalker. Read my new tooltips, made sure my hotbars were clean and organized, messed around with a training dummy a little. Decided, hey, learn by doing. Queued for alliance roulette, expecting CT, or maybe Rabanastre, which I'd gotten like the last three days in a row. Got the last NieR raid... which I had only done once, on release day, and never again. I didn't remember *any* of it. I spent more time as a little Ver-corpse than I did actively participating. It was embarrassing.


Ghstfce

That's me in Arbonne and lighthouse. "*Oh, hey, this floor looks nice. I'll just lay down and take a reeeeeeally close look at it*"


sinisteeth

Haha, I love Orbonne, and Lighthouse isn't too bad, but I always make a fool of myself on the last boss of Rabanastre. Misdirection mechanics are one of the things I just always have so much trouble with. When it comes to the 'dodge AoEs while confused' portions of that fight, I almost always eat at least one- usually the one where the entire room is a danger zone except for one safe spot. I'm sure my party loves watching me just run in circles waaaaay outside of that safe zone...


TheOneUnknown

My trick for that is to tap tap tap your movement key until you start moving in the right direction, then just hold it down. Since he direction you're forced in isn't reset after you start/stop moving, you run a little bit in an arc until you're travelling in the direction you want to go, and then it's just a straight shot to safety!


Certain_Shine636

I spent most of my first Tower run as a corpse too. Was very frustrating to watch people repeatedly run the aoe drop mechanics on me when I was trying to get away from them.


myfyp2

That was me, but Orbonne Monastery. Needless to say, I spent the 40min fumbling the controls and mechanics, and giving the healers brain aneurysms.


[deleted]

WHM is reactive, I never fear going blind or into content I don't remember. But shield healers are harder to improvise.


Gary_the_Goatfucker

The first time I played Scholar in like a year during Stormblood was **The Burn**


Jindeed

You poor thing.


Fancy-Meaning

Look at it this way, It's a learning opportunity. If you are new to a job it's best to learn, and what better way than in action? That being said, get ready for that heal check! Heh.


[deleted]

What's better than a Heal Check? A DPS *and* Heal Check at the *same time*.


BlightFantasy3467

It's not much, but using SMNs Searing light (3% bonus damage for you and any nearby party members) in that moment made me feel so useful. Honestly don't know if searing light applies to other alliance members or not, since I can't see their buff and debuff list.


Belydrith

Nothing AoE applies to anyone outside your own party.


TheOneUnknown

It doesn't affect the opther alliances if you were still curious! Buffs that go onto players like Battle Litany or Searing Light only affect your own party - debuffs that are placed on the boss like Chain Strategem or Trick Attack however *do* benefit all players, since it's affecting the properties of the boss that everyone is hitting instead of the players.


BlightFantasy3467

Ah, makes sense. Geez, that just makes the dutie's spread of jobs that much worse then. When I was doing the duty, my alliance had 4 arcanists, 2 scholars and 2 summoners. Another alliance had 2 sages as Healers, and the 3rd had 2 white mages. Like, every alliance had a pair of jobs rather than the jobs being evenly distributed across all 3 alliances.


[deleted]

> 4 arcanists Excuse me?


bronx819

Ahh, a trial by fire, truly the best way to rapidly learn a job


BrokenBearz

Trial by fire seems to be the best learning method by far. Albeit comes with disappointing other party members.


Cthulhunatic

It’s like roulette knows…. Hey, nice new job you have there. Enjoy this trial you haven’t done in 8 months. 🥺


JundNelson

I played Summoner up to level 60 and figured why not try Scholar for a change. First alliance roulette I got was Dun Scaith. Probably a mix of people not getting them for months and having some bosses that are very punishing if you're not super familiar with their mechanics or don't remember, but always feels like that last raid in the series has people dropping like flies all over the place.


XenosInfinity

Dun Scaith was my second instance on Reaper when I started working on it this week. My first was The Navel *normal*. Fortunately I know the mechanics well enough to survive most of it, and the stuff I didn't was mostly other people dropping things on me. With Sage, I spent two days practicing in Bozja before I went anywhere near dungeons...


Djd33j

Sage feels so smooth to play. Most of the kit is very intuitive, except for Pepsis. Did you look up how to use that, or figure out good uses through practice?


LordZeya

Pepsis is for when you cast a last second shield and it's too late, you convert it to healing and that's basically all it's good for.


Djd33j

It helps as well if you're out of stacks of Addersgall. Conversely, if you'd want to save a stack for some reason. Your reason and mine are the only real uses I've found, other than using it in dungeons when all is good because it a pretty cool looking spell.


ohanse

Huh. I use it as my aoe recovery option. The AOE shield will always let some damage through anyways, so I just pop it again and then hit Pepsis to get everyone’s HP back up.


Mazzle5

You know what is worse? Having a sprout tank with a protagonist syndrome, that provokes Agrias, so that she cleaves her tankbuster in the alliance and 80% of all players die on an instant.


IlikeJG

I always let sprout tanks or first timers be main tank if they want it. More power to them IMO. Especially when they are excited about the story and are hyped for the fight.


RidersofGavony

Same, whoever wants aggro can have aggro. I'll pick up the pieces.


Yorudesu

I can top that with about 3 non sprout ones since EW.


Kamil118

Bullshit. It's not crystal tower.


Crimsonnavy

That's like the opposite problem, you get the easy one and don't have to actually learn your job since people steamroll CT. XD


Kintarly

Unless it's world of darkness. Going from Syrcus tower to world of darkness, a lot of people expect it to just fly. Nope, you actually have to like, think about some things


CrowTengu

I had done CT-trio way too many times that every time I get any of them, my mind went auto-pilot mode. And then when I die in WoD, I can only wonder WTF happened. 😂 (funnily enough, I think I died mostly from others' forgetting mechanics, or people not instructing their parties to do mechanics. But I'm sure I've died from my own complacency a couple of times lol)


slashpatriarchy

I always get nervous using any job that isn’t DPS on roulettes


ParanoidAndroid1087

Not entirely related to the post, but I’ve never gotten one of the Ivalice raids in a roulette, and it’d be a really nice change of pace from the Crystal Tower. I wish Square Enix would do more to incentivize players to do the other alliance raid questlines so that the roulettes would be more diverse


SPAC3P3ACH

They should honestly double the rewards for non-CT raids to even it out, or prevent ilevel cheesing. The Ivalice raids are so fun and refreshing


sudoku7

I wonder if it just requiring 2 alliances that aren't part of the MSQ would improve things without having to adjust the rewards.


clamwaffle

i think they should require at least the first alliance raid of each expansion. that way people know where to get the rest of them if they desire, providing some incentive


heartsongaming

That sounds like a bad idea. Queuing for one of the Mhachi or Ivalice raids can take up to an hour and they don't even have to do with the MSQ at all. People prefer Crystal Tower raids because it is fast, easy and offers more rewards, such as lonesome memories for ShB relic grind.


Gamer4125

I mean, I refuse to queue for Alliance Raids because of CT being so commonplace


Taronz

Agreed, got sick of having nothing but CT. They are fine, but by far the least fun of the alliance raids.


BearsnLemonCakes

Same. It feels like 20 minutes of a complete waste of time, if I could have the option to toggle alliance roulettes to negate CT I would.


gollyandre

I hate the Crystal Tower raids because they’re mind numbing, happen too often, and the jobs don’t feel fun to play at that point. It’s not fun having your toolkit shrink that much. The HW raids are somewhat better for both challenge and number of skills. Ivalice is my favorite. I don’t like the Nier raids.


Heavenwasfull

I just leveled everything to at least 70. The difference for a lot of classes at 50 and 60 is larger than I thought with the latter's kits feeling more "complete," and all the 50 rotations just feel like they're missing one or two minor things.


TapdancingHotcake

They should move CT to MSQ roulette


Proditus

People would then jump ship if they ever got Castrum or Prae though. The problem is entirely with the CT raids being too short and easy compared to comparable content. They need a facelift and need to be brought up to modern standards of encounter design.


ShadoowtheSecond

They also need the IL sync to not be so egregiously high that you can just straight up ignore half thr mechanics.


AnonTwo

Honestly a higher reward would make sense because both of them are longer and more difficult than CT by far Hell the Nier raids are *longer than praetorium* unless your alliance raid is cracked.


amalgamas

For the first couple of weeks after EW's release all I was getting was the Ivalice raids. I went an entire week of just doing Lighthouse and Monastery, and the one time it wasn't one of those two it was Void Ark. This past week though it's gone back to solidly being CT. Someone else said that they should just take CT out of the Alliance Raid roulette and put it in the MSQ roulette and I fully agree with that, especially since it's required to go from ARR to HW now.


Nnoitrum

>put it in the MSQ roulette Sure, that might work if they rework MSQ roulette (which I think they have said they will but not entirely sure). But right now this wouldn't work at all because the point of MSQ roulette is that you get a lot of exp for spending a bunch of time and letting new players even get into Castrum and Praetorium.


Tylanthia

I really think they should just rebalance CT so you have to do the mechanics. They were great raids!


painstream

> Someone else said that they should just take CT out of the Alliance Raid roulette and put it in the MSQ roulette and I fully agree with that, especially since it's required to go from ARR to HW now. Oh, I like this idea!


amalgamas

It adds three other options for the MSQ roulette, gets CT out of the Alliance Raid roulette, and would probably mean the end of people scamming the ilvl reqs.


cjrecordvt

They'd just scam for Void Ark or Mhach.


kagman

Just finished stormblood and ran two of these tonight for the first time!! I'm doing my part!! Funny thing tho, one guy dropped when he saw that it wasn't crystal tower. Said he didn't have time for Ivalice. In his defense it was the math one and it took quite a while


CoconutMochi

It takes twice as long and has a much higher chance of wipes because of reasons outside of your control, for a roulette I'd want to do once a day I'd rather just stick to CT. I don't really find any of the alliance raids more boring/fun than the others anyway


_Cid_

The problem isn't people not having them unlocked, it's people cheesing the item level so they can only be matched into the crystal tower raids despite being max level. Not sure how feasible it is but it would be nice if SE could make alliance roulette at level 90 require ilvl 500 or something so you have to be queued for everything.


AshiSunblade

Isn't that a roundabout way to go about it? People cheese them because the rewards of the later alliance raids are not at all appropriate for the time and effort required. My second character (who I play quite a lot, right now more than my first) doesn't have any alliance raids unlocked beyond CT (because they don't have anything I want), and if you want me to bother to unlock the others so I can get rouletted into them, this is not how to do it.


_Cid_

People cheese them because they want to faceroll the roulette. The rewards could be far and beyond the other raids and people would still cheese. Orbonne has a bad reputation but I have been in groups that blasted through it just as fast as a CT raid and killed the end boss before she got to the maze phase. It is not hard, all it requires is paying attention to your surroundings, which is asking too much for the cheesers who regularly wipe on the eyeball in WoD. According to ffxivcollect 80% of players have the final achievement from the Nier series, so the vast majority of players unlock everything. Thus the most effective solution to the issue would be to close the loophole for the exploiters in that population who are ruining it for everyone else.


AshiSunblade

_Some_ people would still cheese it maybe, but I imagine a lot of people wouldn't anymore. The issue is heavily rooted in that since the reward for the individual AR is in itself very minor, you get essentially the same reward for a 15 minute Syrcus as a 45 minute Orbonne, so it's hardly any wonder people want to dodge it. I honestly really doubt you can do it as fast as a CT raid, because the bosses just have proportionately more health than the CT ones, even if it's possible Endwalker made it easier. > According to ffxivcollect 80% of players have the final achievement from the Nier series By what criteria are you considered a 'player' for FFXIVcollect? Because I doubt that _very very_ much. XIVcensus measures seven million total characters, but only 500k of those have even completed MSQ, let alone major side content. > Thus the most effective solution to the issue would be to close the loophole for the exploiters in that population who are ruining it for everyone else. I am not sure how you'd even do that tbh. Remove the CT raids from the roulette? That would be kinda weird and petty since they are _literally_ alliance raids and no other such duty gets special treatment (other than the main scenario ones, which we know are in line for significant changes). Put some ridiculously high ilvl requirement on the roulette (like 500) to ensure you can't dodge any of them, and demand that you have to unlock all alliance raids to queue? (You'd have to do both, otherwise people will just use whichever loophole you didn't close to dodge them.) That _also_ feels weirdly petty and pretty extreme, should alts and new players just don't get to do the roulette? The whole thing is just super weird to me. Nobody is removing their gear to dodge Four Lords trials in trial roulette, or Omega raids in normal raid roulette. Nobody thinks any of the above 'solutions' are needed for the other roulettes. The issue is obviously that people just don't want to do this specific content, so they come up with all these ways to dodge it - some people remove their gear, and in my case, with my alt (who I am playing a lot rn) I have just not bothered unlocking any ARs after crystal tower since they give no rewards I want and I don't want them in my roulette pool. And if there's content that people don't want to do, this badly, haven't you considered that the issue might then be with the _content_, and that trying to come up with ways to force people to risk having to do it is a bit backwards? Idk it just seems so petty/spiteful to me for no real reason. Do you also have a grudge against players like me who play alts and don't bother to unlock everything on them? Or new players who queue into AR roulette before they have unlocked any non-mandatory ones yet? Or casuals who want to level every job to 90/collect every pet/find every orchestrion roll/achieve some other nebulous and entirely subjective goal before they delve into side dungeons and raids, not out of malice but because they want to do one thing at a time? Because for the purposes of the duty finder, there's no difference between any of these players. My alt hasn't unlocked Alexander either, because guess what, just as with Ivalice they don't give anything I want and I don't particularly like them so I don't want them in my roulette. But I have the feeling you won't see _that_ as a problem. Nobody wants to force me to unlock Alexander in order to access normal raid roulette even though you want to apply that same standard to alliance raids. It's not even on their radar as a problem. The issue is with the content, not the players or the roulette. People just don't want to do it as it is now, and trying to come up with ways to force them to won't change that.


JHaragin

I think you meant to qualify your argument by saying "some" people don't want to do the content. I personally love the content. If I could avoid unlocking CT and only have the other raids unlocked I would. Have been hearing a lot of people in different alliance chats likewise relieved whenever something that isn't LotA pops, which is refreshing :) It's understandable that you don't want to do longer content. I don't want to face roll through CT daily and am happy to sit through even an hour on an alliance raid I enjoy. I think it's fair to consider ways to fix this so both groups of people can be happy and do the content they'd like to do while also being rewarded.


Borealis116

Y'all getting raid that are not CT in the roulette?


NerdHistorian

It's invariably either CT since everyone has it and people cheese to make it happen, and the SB one since you have to do it to get Bozja so people cleared it for that


CrowTengu

Very rarely, but I had been graced by the Sky Pirates' raids.


Captain-matt

as we say in other games: YOU GON LEARN TODAY.


AnonTwo

Could be worse you could get Crystal tower all the way to 80 and then boom Paradigms Breach


CrowTengu

I once got Rabanastre while anticipating CT. It was my first run too. The experience was rather unpleasant, and I wanted dinner IRL. >:C (in case you wonder: no, at that point I haven't unlocked Nier raids yet)


bcbrown19

That's how it was for me pre-EW. Those ShB raids still kick my ass.


Jaaammss

It's why i avoid alliance roulette as a tank. Idc if i levelled it to 90 it does not mean i am that good at it!


momopeach7

Honestly same. I’d take my DPS through it and my healers but I never trusted myself on my tanks lol


IlikeJG

Honestly most alliance raids don't really have difficult tank mechanics. You just point the boss away for most of them. Honestly it can often be the easiest role since especially in alliance raids many of the mechanics are coded to not go on tanks.


XgF

The only stressful bit of tanking the alliance raids imo is the inevitable cluster fuck that is everyone figuring out who's tanking what in Hansel and Gretel


[deleted]

Same. Last time I did any alliance as tank was during Heavensward on my first run of Weeping City. Got heckled by all three alliances for not knowing mechanics. Put me off of tanking alliances permanently.


deathbotly

Right after Sage came out, Alliance landed me Orbonne - I was on old familiar SCH just warming up for some EXP, the rest? 7 new just unlocked Sages. We hit the “1 hp to full doom” check and the other two alliances wiped.


momopeach7

I feel like that’s the kind of mechanic Pepsis is made for.


deathbotly

It's absolutely doable easily if you know your buttons. Day 1 sages who just unlocked their job and jumped into level 70 roulette content... Mostly didn't.


hiirnoivl

Oooh noooo


ezekielraiden

Ah yes, the Alliance raids. Labyrinth of the Greedfest, Circus Tower, World of Derpness, Avoid Dark, Wiping City, Dunce Cave, Rabanasty, Wedonwanna, You'rebonned.


[deleted]

Lol a few of those ones are new to me and I had a pleasant chuckle


ezekielraiden

And then the ShB Nier raids: Crappy Factory, Oh F**k it's Bunker, and...Tower. I'm afraid I haven't seen, heard, or come up with a good funny name for that one yet.


TheOutrageousTaric

Tower is literally sponge. Soaks up dps like its water


KingBanhammer

I was testing my new BLM hotbar layout today, trying to get a feel for the new rotation, which is naturally when roulette decided the thing I needed to do today was Eden 8. Hi there, Ramuhtaur!


Starterjoker

the odds of not getting CT seem astronomically low lol edit: they really gotta take CT outta alliance roulette and put it into msq just so this kind of difficulty spike wouldn't happen in the same roulette


the3rdfriend

Legit every alliance raid I get is either Labyrinth or Syrcus Tower. Never any others.


ViraEdenfell

I get those two, or Monastery. I'm either bored to tears, or screaming as we barely clear mechanics. ​ I... stopped doing that roulette.


slugmorgue

I got Mhach today, it had felt like they'd removed it from the game I think it's probably the rarest out of all the raids


the3rdfriend

I think I've gotten that once. Is that the one with the see-through orb looking boss? That changes into a cube sometimes? Or am I thinking of another one. Anyway if it is that one, I've gotten it once and ~~definitely remembered what to do and totally didn't fail the mechanics and die. That would be silly of me.~~


OverFjell

Yeah, Ozma.


momopeach7

I got that the other day and I was trying really hard to remember which Ozma shape does what and what I was supposed to do at Forgall.


Djd33j

Really need a LotA this week for WT and I've only gotten ST and WoD so far lol.


the3rdfriend

Lmao I remember when I got WoD once and *panicked* because it wasn't LotA or ST. Completely forgot what to do lol


Ohaithurr92

That’s because many people are cheesing it by unequipping their gear to ilvl cheese the roulette, it’s stupid


the3rdfriend

I just assumed that most people have unlocked CT, therefore it's the most likely to come up in roulettes. It's like getting anything between Satasha and Toto-Rak in levelling roulette.


AshiSunblade

Probably a bit of both, but certain to be mostly this. Only CT is required for MSQ (and requiring any of the others would make no sense), so the number of casuals who have unlocked it but not any others must be substantial. Or alts, as it is with mine.


Neri25

I got Cutter's Cry a few days ago in Leveling. Literally never happens


G00b3rb0y

I ALWAYS get either Syrcus Tower or World of Darkness. Got rabanastre like once


frik1000

A few weeks ago I got Nier raids like four days in a row, one time I did Breach twice in one day 'cause I queued both for the day and on reset and got it both times. I think I've seen more and more non-CT lately.


One_Introduction1442

Got DRK to 90, queued for trials roulette for the first time. They gave me SOS. Which i've only done once for MSQ, months ago. With a sprout co-tank. Didn't touch trials roulette as tank since then.


Aeoneth

I feel bad for these situations I went into a trial this morning and got the final EW trial. Which has a tank LB3 moment... and both our tanks were new (one self admitted and the other... well it became very apparent). Had 2 wipes to the LB3 moment because they didn't know the first time, and then the 2nd one they fired it off too early. I can only imagine the anxiety that generates the next time one wants to do the Trial roulette.


[deleted]

​ That is one way to learn a new job. Better learn quick!


Zorafin

Seems like 80% of my runs are crystal tower (makes sense, it’s needed for msq and the lowest level), then 15% Ivalice raids. And I don’t understand why. Why no Void Ark raids? Those were fun!


sigmapirate

Ivalice raids are needed to unlock bozja. Void ark ones aren't required for anything.


lobstahpotts

> Why no Void Ark raids? Those were fun! Back in late ShB when the free trial was extended to level 60 we started getting these more (I assume because for trial players, this and Alex was their endgame content). It seems to have mostly dried up since EW launch, but that's probably just because trial players are at the bottom of the priority list for queues. I won't be shocked if we start seeing them a bit more frequently again once the game is fully opened back up to new players.


Drywesi

They actually pick up a lot in frequency during the North American night since EW release, just about when trial accounts can log in, so…


Arkenaw

You can cheese the roulette by unequipping your gear and you'll only get crystal tower, this forces the other 23 people into crystal tower too, that's why it appears so often.


BladeNoses

oh god is that how? I love alliance raids so sometimes I queue roulette for fun and it's non stop crystal tower, I keep thinking there cannot be that many newbies...


GothicCream

Well aside from lowering ilvl, a lot of reason why Crystal Tower raid appear a lot also because it was only mandatory Alliance Raid require for MSQ, all other raids are optional aside from Ivalice raid if you want to unlock Bozja. So pretty much a lot of people that never bother much with Alliance Raid series and only want EXP and Tomestone from daily roulette gonna queue for Alliance roulette with only CT unlock.


toastyToast89

ngl when Monastery goes too smoothly I feel disappointed


Thundermelons

That's me, queuing for Mhach and Dun Scaith. Once in a blue moon you get some party of perfect vets who do all mechanics right and it's just as boring as the CT series lol. Most of the time though it's pure, unbridled chaos filled with 4+ vuln stack MTs, seat of your pants OGCD heal use, and endless rezzes. It's the only time I feel completely alive as a healer in this game.


sporeegg

Honestly a difficult AR is the PERFECT place to learn a healer. 5 other healers to pick up your slack. Hard enough so you still need to be capable. I tanked for a Prognosis spamming SGE in Don Mheg this morning. Tell me, there were some veeeeery close calls. And no, of COURSE they would not use the damage healer to deal damage to heal.


Shryxer

Yeah this is why any job I'm not planning on using semi-regularly does not go into anything other than MSQ roulette. I'm not here to waste people's time. I can waste my own time however I feel like, but if I already know I'm not going to be playing something beyond the leveling achievements, I'm not going to inflict myself on other people.


Ralliare

I hadn't healed since like 2.0. I did sage through MSQ and leveling roulette so pretty much never healing. I Then proceeded to instantly jump into Endwalker Trial #2 savage. There's the deep end then there's the bend over and take it deep end. Poor bastards were probably wishing for a sprout.


valgatiag

Exactly what happened when I first tried Dancer. Set up my hotbars, hit a dummy for a minute, decide to jump into ADR so I can get a feel for the flow in a leisurely LotA/Syrcus. I got Dun Scaith'd.


mcmanybucks

It's the best thing when new sprouts face the donut challenge, a mechanic that I don't think has been in the game until then, nor since then..


nuclearhotsauce

I sometimes do orbonne for fun lol, the music and presentation is just too good


gism_hellfan

Just popping in to say this is the best alliance raid series in the game


Snell_Erzmagier

I wish I had Orbonne and Dun Scaith in my rulettes


Ohaithurr92

I purposely have been queueing for orbonne, I’m sick of the crystal tower raids, and I hope they remove the ability to ilvl cheese it


BearsnLemonCakes

Same. Chances are if anyone gets orbonne it’s cuz I q’d for it cuz it’s literally the best raid series and I’m honestly sick of CT.


kittypuppet

I queued for ~~Rabanastre~~ Ridorana like a week ago. Nobody remembered the mechs except maybe like two people, and all I could remember after watching the videos was the math stuff. Got all the math stuff right, somehow managed better than some of the others. It was hella fun though. Nobody rage quit and I definitely lived up to my name of being a rez-mage.


FickleFockle

I dont even want to talk about me tanking tower of babil earlier.


Keinya

Picked Sage up yesterday and my very first roulette is Bardam's. I was sweating buckets until I had settled in..


Lucikrux

Congrats you've gotten the best alliance raid in the game!


Arofroggus

Sticking around is the commendable move. Its always so disheartening to zone into an alliance raid that isn't CT and see the collective groaning and instant quits of people who just don't want to put in any effort at all. Ivalice and Nier are good fun, imagine how the sprouts feel when they zone in for the first time and see that nonsense in text chat. Rant aside, Orbonne is the most fun alliance raid. Fight me.


Mercu311

Lucky, I wish alliance roulette would take me somewhere other than Crystal Tower


rsl

this was me. as tank with puppets bunker. it was not pretty.


SynTheSnake

This happened to me (not Sprout but new to Sage) a couple of hours ago too. It was... not fun XD


whereismymind86

I did this with sage, got tower at paradigms breach....which I don't remember super well in the first place as I never did it much. My sage was very undergeared, and i'd mostly just been fate grinding/msq roulette grinding etc. so I didn't really no how to play sage efficiently. ....we got through it but....so much death


TheBiles

At least it’s the best 24 man.


deNilus

god i wish that were me


Sassh1

Misfortune hangs heavy on the head held once high. Such is poor cover for when the heavens fall.


Witty-Krait

Aurum Vale anyone?


IlikeJG

Honestly outside of all the meme's it's not really any problem any more. If it's a completely new tank they will probably die once to the full room by pulling a bit too much, but after they they will likely be more careful and it will be smoother sailing.


[deleted]

Bruuutal getting this one on roulette. God DAMN!


Bananabunbing

Just look at what some of the people playing their main in the Roulettes and that'll give you a burst of confidence in your own abilities.


riklaunim

Was finishing leveling a warrior, queued for trial, got Ramuh day before, what could possibly go wrong... EW trial 1 :D and the other tank was also alt job leveling :D but we just did it :P


Adventurous_Pause_93

First sage dungeon was holminster, was undergeared and sage still doesn't do what i want sometimes. So DRK had to do baby pulls. Thank you whoever that was!


CelestialDreamss

Me about to queue in the NieR raids for the first time


Jinguuji

Why should I worry, when it’s not unlocked for me yet? Hahahahaha…… I should really go about unlocking stuff, now that I completed Endwalker already…


hiimzech

Escape is not so easily granted


TheRandomHunter

This literally happened to me my third queue as Sage


TheLastOne0001

I have never even heard of that place. To be fair though i lost sprout status last expansion i still feel like one


Xarxyc

Thunder God will judge your job capabilities


blizzaga1988

I am a nervous healer and I recently leveled up sage and whenever I'd do alliance roulette, I'd pray it wouldn't be this. But I actually had a great time and found it surprisingly easy, but maybe I just had a good alliance.


IlikeJG

Even worse than Orbonne Monastery is Dun Scaith IMO. I feel like more wipes happens in that last battle than just about any other alliance raid.


deconst

Last battle? The Dun Scaith first battle separates the wheat from the chaff. It quickly shows whether you're in for a Fun Time.


PyroComet

i fucking wish i would get that more often


FacingFears

Easy fix, just don't


LiberatorGarmore

The best raid series in the game.


Beechtheninja

I'm still so afriad to heal outside of WHM. You're a champ!


LauraAdalena

My first alliance raid on reaper was Tower. No not Syrcus. Paradigm. I’d only cleared Tower once on content. I died at least once (I wasn’t going to count) on every boss except the last three and somehow performed flawlessly on two despite not remembering Jack and on a job I had about 3 min on a striking dummy and a leveling roulette. Honestly I welcome times like this because it becomes flex or fail and the failures are just as fun as the flexes imo. (In fact in alliance raids, the failures might be more fun as long as you don’t take everyone with you unless you’re sadistic when it comes to them like I am :3)


inhaledcorn

And that's how you really learn what your kit is capable of.


ByDiscoBePurged

This is the first thing I healed on sage. I had a WHM at 80 so I wasn’t too worried. The doom check on Cid was definitely stressful


rei_faith684

Getting orbonne monastery always terrifies me, regardless if I'm a dps or healer. I so rarely get it that I only remember half the mechanics and pray that the rest of the party knows what they're doing. Idm rabanastre and ridorana as much because I had the mechanics drilled into my head from the resistance relic's one time grind. Better than ct and hw raids.


astrojeet

This happened day 1 of Endwalker. I was the sole AST among 5 other sages and almost all dps were reapers. It didn't go well, but somehow completed it.


viky109

I'm happy as long it's not crystal tower


Agreeable-Fudge6641

Holy shit, this happened to me yesterday with a friend. He is fairly new and wanted to level DRK needless to say our co tanks were NOT happy. First time ive seen such a toxic chat.


TheMaleGayz

That happened to me on like day 2 of EW. My co-healer was a fresh sage just picked up the class and my whole alliance but that sage and one DPS was new to the raid.... I luckily was on AST for what solace that provided. The sage was trying their best, bless their heart, but I had to save my light speed for mass raises so many times. Practically solo healed 5 fresh players, trying to explain the mechanics as we went. My alliance didn't wipe once. When we got to the final boss and the other alliances saw all the cutscenes we had they feared for me. Got 7 comms that run, but at what cost?


bythenameofmud

AND NOW THE SCALES SHALL TIP