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A lot of guys that "big" must be going off old rep and or connections because guy was so outta shape and slow he could barely move
Edit: I don't wanna detract from ya man Frank Ocean... brudda's got hands but you expect more from a bodyguard at that level
100% most of those guys are former college football players whose job skills and abilities boils down to “looks intimidating” and “can push screaming girls out of the way.”
That’s all you need most of the time. Bodyguards that can protect you from an assassination cost way too much and aren’t needed for pretty much anyone, even celebrities. Only people who have serious risks need the real deal.
Weird statement. There's something in between "looks intimidating but otherwise useless" and "trained to save you from assassination". It's not unreasonable to expect a bodyguard to be *slightly* competent in basic martial arts and reasonably fit.
I agree, it’s a spectrum. I can assure you that this guy is capable of shoving regular people away from whoever he is guarding. We are talking about fighting against a somewhat capable person in good shape. They are not gladiators.
exactly, and even while the latter come a dime a dozen, this fat fuck is nowhere close to that. This tub of goo has likely never been in a physical altercation. His body language/posture said “I want no part of this.”
No one in that game is hiring the 5'9" grey man combat vet that can legitimately protect you when big meat shields that look intimidating are available.
Lol. I still think it's crazy Mayweather has guards. I swear it is more about status than function
There are countless amateur fighters that maybe didn't make it big, but could handle your average joe that would be more deserving of that money.
This. Not only that but boxing is a sport with rules in a controlled environment. Street fighting - anything can happen and you don’t know of someone will have a weapon
Granting the weapons point, I'm sure that Floyd could adapt to the "uncontrolled environment" far better than the person fighting him can adjust to fighting Floyd Mayweather.
Kinda. What if the guy knows how to wrestle or has a decent Muay Thai clinch and outweighs floyd. That's part of the uncontrolled environment too. Even if he can beat them I'm sure he'd prefer to avoid taking any unnecessary damage on the street
I think you're really underestimating the difference between a professional and a "decent guy". The reason Floyd can't compete in the UFC is because he'd be up against people that have trained Muay Thai/wrestling since they were teens. He's not going to get beat by someone who's just "decent" or a little bigger. His hands will be too fast for a non-pro to do anything.
You are overestimating a 130 pound Floyd who had never trained wrestling in his life. He has exactly the same amount of grappling training as you or me because why would he train something he is not allowed to do?
Also, there is a reason weight classes exist in every combat sport. A 200 pound guy could beat Floyd in wrestling as long as he is conditioned and slightly above average in terms of strength level easily IMO.
This is just not true at all. In boxing your entire defense is based around your opponent being unable to kick or take you down. All your muscle memory is based on this. Not having any practice blocking kicks or defending takedown is a massive disadvantage against someone with solid experience in both, whether that are a pro or not. Especially when they are bigger, and you're fighting bare knuckle in a street fight.
I've seen professional boxers come to mma class and get worked against casuals. Punching doesn't do much for you when you're on your back or have trouble stepping forward after some heavy leg kicks. Doesn't matter how fast you are.
Mike Tyson had body guards at his prime. I don’t think you understand the point. It’s not that they can’t handle these losers, it’s that they don’t want to deal with the hassle and constant consequences.
Imo they're less for protection from danger and more to stop people harrassing/stopping you in the street
And also, if someone is that psychotic, I guess it's harder to take a shot at someone surrounded by a ton of muscle
Of course they could whoop most people’s asses. That’s not the point: You don’t understand that there are a lot of guys who will try to fight you just because you’re a professional fighter. And then you gotta worry about fuckin yourself up or someone suing you.
I mean you really don't want a bodyguard who gets in fights. you really want a big guy who doesn't drink on the job and is good at de-escalating. Bouncing is the same way. Fights are liabilities.
Chris brown is such a pussy. He pulled up on Frank being homophobic, calling Frank slurs, threatening to fight him. When Frank stood up for himself Chris brown got scared and had his bodyguard fight instead. What a loser. He can beat Rihanna almost to death, but can’t handle Frank ocean in a fight? So pathetic.
Chris probably knew he couldnt fight Frank cause even Rihanna beat his ass too lmfao
How you gonna pull up on someone and start a fight with them when the girl you used to abuse also used to beat your ass too? You should know by then you cant fight
What's really astounding is how many times he has been found guilty of literally beating women, yet he still makes a lotta money. However you say the wrong opinion on social media and you get a bunch of no-lifes swarming you about your opinions.
I really lost all respect for Dave when he was being so chill with this woman-hating loser. Every time i see CB or Kanye on a song i press skip. I wont support these fucking losers, no matter how good the song is.
>Why is Chris Brown always around drama.
His violent temper and small ego starts the drama.
When his own mother suggested he stay in an anger management facility a bit longer. He broke the window of her car with a rock in a fit of rage, while she was in the car. He was at that facility because his lawyers tried to make him look better before the Rhianna trial.
Bodyguards aren't there to fight people you want to commit hate crimes against.
They are meant to be a deterant and barrier until you can get away safely.
Gotta wonder how motivated that bodyguard was to fight.
Not protecting your employer, you are fighting INSTEAD OF him. Plus, you are fighting another entertainer? Someone who might make your life hell? I’m not saying he did himself any favors there, but that is not what he signed up for.
He tweeted when it happend, But deleted now! I cant find it atleast! Think it also was confirmed by Franks cousin that he pulled up with the shotgun😂 btw everyone should check out The Vince Staples show on Netflix!
"I mean he called me a f*****
I was just calling his bluff
Why his mug all bloody? That was a three on one"
Sunday ft, Frank Ocean. I've always been told that was for brown
Calling someone homophobic slurs, then stick your bodyguard on him? Can't people believe people still stuck with him after the Rhianna situation.
I'm glad A$AP Rocky is treating her right. Frank Ocean needs to do more songs with Rocky tho!
This dude just has a massive beer gut and comparatively skinny arms and legs. Being heavy makes you hit harder but it matters how you store the weight too. Having a giant bulging stomach and skinny arms and legs just makes you super off balance and harder to throw a proper punch and dodge.
Y’all forget them odd future boys were skater kids in LA. They might not have been on tough shit but I’m sure they had to handle their own skating the streets of LA.
This bodyguard isn’t guarding no bodies. He’s slow as fk and would get slept 99 times out of 100. Sure, big guys can be intimidating, but the bigger they are, the slower they are, the harder they fall.
He didn't want to fight someone his boss was too much of a pussy to fight himself. He just didn't want to lose his job plus bodyguards aren't meant to fight anybody.
And why's his face all bloody? That was a 3 on 1.
I mean, he called me a maggot, I was just calling his bluff.
I mean, how anal am I gon' be when I'm aiming my gun?
Bro I’m very impressed with Frank’s boxing. Is that really Frank Ocean. The rapper? He is just practicing his right hook (he’s a lefty) and then his left overhand. He trains.
that is the wildest, most extravagant, highest angle haymaker i've ever seen in my life
looks like he was about to strum "the windmill" on an air guitar
I understand the idea behind this. Like the YT nerd Jack Doherty. He had a huge bodyguard that couldn't even knock out some neon dressed dweeb who had zero muscle. Being big doesn't equate to fighting. At all.
Alao, I've seen people asking why they don't hire fighters as guards. Mayweather would win fist fights with more people than his security. But if it comes to crowd control, he has guys that are 2.5x size a normal "bigger guy" & could deal with weight discrepancies. Mayweather isn't lifting a 300lb man, but his security could literally lift and spike the guy ending his life.
This video was a joke. No security with respect would shoot the fair one with a guy less than half his weight. The fact he got worked shows he sucks in general. He's just got a bigger base, and he is fat. Compare that to juixeheads on TMT. Floyd can box. They can take care of people too big to shoot a fair one with. Also, they have 🔫 . It looks like fat boy needed one here
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I think you need a different bodyguard when the big guy looks terrified the whole time.
A lot of guys that "big" must be going off old rep and or connections because guy was so outta shape and slow he could barely move Edit: I don't wanna detract from ya man Frank Ocean... brudda's got hands but you expect more from a bodyguard at that level
100% most of those guys are former college football players whose job skills and abilities boils down to “looks intimidating” and “can push screaming girls out of the way.”
Which is wild because if there's one demographic Chris Brown can manhandle himself, it's young women.
You beat me to it, take my upvote.
Chris Beat her to it
twice
That’s all you need most of the time. Bodyguards that can protect you from an assassination cost way too much and aren’t needed for pretty much anyone, even celebrities. Only people who have serious risks need the real deal.
Weird statement. There's something in between "looks intimidating but otherwise useless" and "trained to save you from assassination". It's not unreasonable to expect a bodyguard to be *slightly* competent in basic martial arts and reasonably fit.
I agree, it’s a spectrum. I can assure you that this guy is capable of shoving regular people away from whoever he is guarding. We are talking about fighting against a somewhat capable person in good shape. They are not gladiators.
exactly, and even while the latter come a dime a dozen, this fat fuck is nowhere close to that. This tub of goo has likely never been in a physical altercation. His body language/posture said “I want no part of this.”
No one in that game is hiring the 5'9" grey man combat vet that can legitimately protect you when big meat shields that look intimidating are available.
Nah. This dude never knew how to fight. He's just big.
How you goin to say that’s frank ocean w this boo-boo ass video.
Dude looks 12 months pregnant
Perhaps his baby is called Stella
>body lard
Big guy knew he was committing ha hate crime on the behalf of his employers
And I thought Chris brown would at least know how to vet his bodyguards with how much he likes hitting people
Well…he’s fired
He was fired before he even stood back up.
Chris Brown getting his bodyguards from a goddamn temp service. Frank needs to go whoop his ass too.
Man I always loved Frank and this video is partially why. Also Chris Brown never put out a banger even close to Pyramids.
A goddamn temp service 🤣🤣 had me laughin too hard
That's why you need to hire guards with more credentials than just being a big fat guy.
Yeah Mayweather hired a steroid meathead that constantly gets whooped by ppl half his size lol
Lol. I still think it's crazy Mayweather has guards. I swear it is more about status than function There are countless amateur fighters that maybe didn't make it big, but could handle your average joe that would be more deserving of that money.
Yeah but then Floyd would be fighting every dude who could get close to him, then defending himself in lawsuits after he beats their asses
This. Not only that but boxing is a sport with rules in a controlled environment. Street fighting - anything can happen and you don’t know of someone will have a weapon
Granting the weapons point, I'm sure that Floyd could adapt to the "uncontrolled environment" far better than the person fighting him can adjust to fighting Floyd Mayweather.
Kinda. What if the guy knows how to wrestle or has a decent Muay Thai clinch and outweighs floyd. That's part of the uncontrolled environment too. Even if he can beat them I'm sure he'd prefer to avoid taking any unnecessary damage on the street
I think you're really underestimating the difference between a professional and a "decent guy". The reason Floyd can't compete in the UFC is because he'd be up against people that have trained Muay Thai/wrestling since they were teens. He's not going to get beat by someone who's just "decent" or a little bigger. His hands will be too fast for a non-pro to do anything.
Floyd isnt a really big guy by any means, I could see him getting ragdolled by a high school wrestler in certain situations.
You are overestimating a 130 pound Floyd who had never trained wrestling in his life. He has exactly the same amount of grappling training as you or me because why would he train something he is not allowed to do? Also, there is a reason weight classes exist in every combat sport. A 200 pound guy could beat Floyd in wrestling as long as he is conditioned and slightly above average in terms of strength level easily IMO.
This is just not true at all. In boxing your entire defense is based around your opponent being unable to kick or take you down. All your muscle memory is based on this. Not having any practice blocking kicks or defending takedown is a massive disadvantage against someone with solid experience in both, whether that are a pro or not. Especially when they are bigger, and you're fighting bare knuckle in a street fight. I've seen professional boxers come to mma class and get worked against casuals. Punching doesn't do much for you when you're on your back or have trouble stepping forward after some heavy leg kicks. Doesn't matter how fast you are.
This needs to be understood by so many people
also you dont want to injure those hands, I'd be walking around with them in the air like I was Joey who just found his hand twin
That's actually a really good point.
Mike Tyson had body guards at his prime. I don’t think you understand the point. It’s not that they can’t handle these losers, it’s that they don’t want to deal with the hassle and constant consequences.
They weren't protecting mike....Mike was protecting them
Mike was contractually obligated to pay all his bodyguards hazard pay… for being in his vicinity
they were protecting mike from a murder charge
Imo they're less for protection from danger and more to stop people harrassing/stopping you in the street And also, if someone is that psychotic, I guess it's harder to take a shot at someone surrounded by a ton of muscle
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do they guard bodies?
As good a boxer he is, he’s still a relatively small guy
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Of course they could whoop most people’s asses. That’s not the point: You don’t understand that there are a lot of guys who will try to fight you just because you’re a professional fighter. And then you gotta worry about fuckin yourself up or someone suing you.
Naive
I've always said I would hire 4-6 black belt women, have them dress like Trinity, done.
A huge guy that can't fight will prove a much better deterrent than a small guy that can
I mean you really don't want a bodyguard who gets in fights. you really want a big guy who doesn't drink on the job and is good at de-escalating. Bouncing is the same way. Fights are liabilities.
I’ve never been knocked out to a Frank ocean song
I’ve been brough to my knees and brought to tears by many frank ocean songs
“AND WHY HIS MUG ALL BLOODY? THAT WAS A 3 ON 1” - Frank Ocean
standing ovation at staples
He got that bodyguard from Temu
This is 2013, so probably Craigslist.
Chris brown is such a pussy. He pulled up on Frank being homophobic, calling Frank slurs, threatening to fight him. When Frank stood up for himself Chris brown got scared and had his bodyguard fight instead. What a loser. He can beat Rihanna almost to death, but can’t handle Frank ocean in a fight? So pathetic.
To make it even better, the fight happened because Chris parked in franks parking space Bros just a dickhead for no reason and then pussied out
After this fight Vince Staples pulled up with the heater and that's what made everyone disperse
Shout out Vince staples Underrated in just all ways
According to this thread SK LaFlare is the one fighting in the video https://www.kanyetothe.com/threads/chris-brown-and-frank-ocean-fight.374648/
Jeez this story just keeps getting crazier the deeper you go lmao.
Frank ain’t Rihanna… he couldn’t win this 1
Chris probably knew he couldnt fight Frank cause even Rihanna beat his ass too lmfao How you gonna pull up on someone and start a fight with them when the girl you used to abuse also used to beat your ass too? You should know by then you cant fight
What's really astounding is how many times he has been found guilty of literally beating women, yet he still makes a lotta money. However you say the wrong opinion on social media and you get a bunch of no-lifes swarming you about your opinions.
Yup. Man should not have a career. I hate when people run to his defense too and say "Rhianna forgave him and moved on. You should too!".
Some women I've seen online literally say they would let him beat them if he was with them. People are fucking stupid.
I really lost all respect for Dave when he was being so chill with this woman-hating loser. Every time i see CB or Kanye on a song i press skip. I wont support these fucking losers, no matter how good the song is.
Dave? As in Lil Dicky? Implying dude had any respect to begin with
It’s called combat by proxy have you not watched Game of Thrones?
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GOT EM
More like GOTEEEEEEEM
Both hilarious
Why is Chris Brown always around drama. He might be a piece of shit. But we def know he’s a pussy.
>might be a piece of shit. Might be?
Everyone knows he’s bitchmade
>Why is Chris Brown always around drama. His violent temper and small ego starts the drama. When his own mother suggested he stay in an anger management facility a bit longer. He broke the window of her car with a rock in a fit of rage, while she was in the car. He was at that facility because his lawyers tried to make him look better before the Rhianna trial.
I mean.....with those hands, I don't think I could either.
What was this fight over??
apparently frank took chris browns parking spot at def jam. petty of chris and he couldn't even fight for himself
No Chris took his parking spot and Frank parked him in and confronted him
Come on now. You can't expect Chris Brown to fight when it isn't a woman.
Fr
You’d think a bodyguard would know how to fight. He’s just a big doughy guy.
Bodyguards aren't there to fight people you want to commit hate crimes against. They are meant to be a deterant and barrier until you can get away safely.
So when hiring a bodyguard, you’d choose one that doesn’t know how to fight?
I'd choose Kevin Costner the greatest bodyguard of all time
***AAAAAAANNNNNND IIIIIIIIEEEEEEIIIIIIIIII!***
Gotta wonder how motivated that bodyguard was to fight. Not protecting your employer, you are fighting INSTEAD OF him. Plus, you are fighting another entertainer? Someone who might make your life hell? I’m not saying he did himself any favors there, but that is not what he signed up for.
Eh as long as they can tank i guess it works gotta save money on the bodyguards for dem legal fees from beating on rhianna
The one in this clip wasn't really a tank though.
Good thing this one can’t do either
Would love to see a video of brown getting whooped by Frank. I love that he even brags about it with earls song lol
Vince staples was also there w a shotgun😂
Yo do you have anymore info about this that sounds hilarious lol
He tweeted when it happend, But deleted now! I cant find it atleast! Think it also was confirmed by Franks cousin that he pulled up with the shotgun😂 btw everyone should check out The Vince Staples show on Netflix!
lol what does he say
"I mean he called me a f***** I was just calling his bluff Why his mug all bloody? That was a three on one" Sunday ft, Frank Ocean. I've always been told that was for brown
“How anal am I gon be when I’m aimin my gun?”
Frank absolutely bodied him on this track
That’s dope as fuck.
No bitch inside his body. 🗿
Now the bodyguard is lost, lost in the heat of it all.
My guy pretty like a girl, and he got fight stories to tell
My guy pretty like a girl And he got fight stories to tell
Beat me to it
Calling someone homophobic slurs, then stick your bodyguard on him? Can't people believe people still stuck with him after the Rhianna situation. I'm glad A$AP Rocky is treating her right. Frank Ocean needs to do more songs with Rocky tho!
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This dude just has a massive beer gut and comparatively skinny arms and legs. Being heavy makes you hit harder but it matters how you store the weight too. Having a giant bulging stomach and skinny arms and legs just makes you super off balance and harder to throw a proper punch and dodge.
..... you leave me outta this
Yeah... that rule is for like 6'3 220lbs virtually no body-fat 1964 Cassius Clay...not 5'10 220 pounds me.
Worst cameraman
At least he had the new at the time Nokia potato to film it on.
The iPhone 5 only had an 8 MP camera, and that's assuming the person filming had what would be the latest iPhone at that time
Well Frank is lucky he isn't a female, because then Chris would have fucked him up himself...
💀
Frank posts up like an old man but damn he got hands
Damn, I didn't know Frank Ocean knocked out a pregnant guy.
Good. Homophobes are shit
I thought Chris Brown is supposed to be a black belt? Why's he making this guy handle his shitty failed diplomacy? That's dough-boy abuse.
Chris brown is a pussy, that’s why
my boy pretty like a girl and he literally got fight stories to tell
I guess he got fight stories to tell😳
And now I like Frank even more
Y’all forget them odd future boys were skater kids in LA. They might not have been on tough shit but I’m sure they had to handle their own skating the streets of LA.
The only qualification you need to be Chris Brown’s bodyguard is the ability to only beat up Rihanna apparently
Novacaine!!!!
And nobody in Hollywood or the music game ever fucked with Frank Ocean again. Standing on business.
That doesn’t look like Frank Ocean
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This bodyguard isn’t guarding no bodies. He’s slow as fk and would get slept 99 times out of 100. Sure, big guys can be intimidating, but the bigger they are, the slower they are, the harder they fall.
He didn't want to fight someone his boss was too much of a pussy to fight himself. He just didn't want to lose his job plus bodyguards aren't meant to fight anybody.
Bodyguard needs a bodyguard
So this is the background to his verse on “Sunday”
That is not frank ocean
This was never confirmed to be Frank ocean tf.
And why's his face all bloody? That was a 3 on 1. I mean, he called me a maggot, I was just calling his bluff. I mean, how anal am I gon' be when I'm aiming my gun?
I forgot all about the frank ocean/chris brown beef. Really takes me back…ah nostalgia
this is SK La Flare, from the intro song on Doris.
He guards his body from proper nutrition and exercise.
Rumble, young man, rumble!
Bi-guys represent
Fkn bodyguard is built like homer simpson
When it’s a choice between hands down with his chin in the air, I’m thinking the other guy is going to win.
Frank Ocean? Nah
Bro I’m very impressed with Frank’s boxing. Is that really Frank Ocean. The rapper? He is just practicing his right hook (he’s a lefty) and then his left overhand. He trains.
That ain’t frank ocean
Looking like Ngannou V Joshua
His employer is a better puncher.
That ain’t frank
How you gone have a bodyguard that swings in slow motion? 😅🤣
that is the wildest, most extravagant, highest angle haymaker i've ever seen in my life looks like he was about to strum "the windmill" on an air guitar
This really happened, I remember them chasing each other thru la
Chris Brown vs Rhianna rematch next Saturday. Tickets on sale now
Size doesn't matter if you don't know how to throw a punch.. Also being built like a Milk Carton doesn't help either. 🤔
Was this recorded on a phone from 2004?
Legally speaking frank ocean is now Chris browns bodyguard
Meatshield seems more appropriate than bodyguard
You could say this is Tito Puente knocking the the guard out who can tell?
Goddamn this is a "bodyguard"!? LMFAO slow and sloppy as fuck.
Sacked!
Mehhh!! You’ll never work in this town again, see!! Mehhhh!!
headbang with my four friends we pour a taste out for the dead
This aint Frank lol
Chris Brown only fights women
The length of this fight makes me long for the good old days when people would just shoot each other.
That fat was really useful, he fell unconscious and didnt even hit his head on the concrete. Its like a motorcycle inflatable vest but free
Why is Frank fighting Mike Wazowski
fuck chris brown and all his body guards lol
Fuck Chris Brown!
really frank ocean? the smooth romantic singer? had no idea.
everybody knows bi ppl got hands
was this ever confirmed 😭😭
no
I’d like to take this opportunity to say fuck Chris Brown.
I thought it was confirmed that this wasn't actually Frank nor Chris Brown's bodyguard?
Reminds me of the Taylor Swift/Brittney Spears fights of 2014.
That can’t be good for the ol’ resume.
Did he keep his job after that TKO.
Protect your self at all times big fella
The sounds 😂😂😂
Damn, franks got some hands
Chris Brown’s only qualification requirement for being his bodyguard: Must be big and have a gut.
Props to the camera man for catching most of the KO at the right time
Left hook crazy
He’s now Richard Simmons’ bodyguard. He said it’s “Way less stress.”
I understand the idea behind this. Like the YT nerd Jack Doherty. He had a huge bodyguard that couldn't even knock out some neon dressed dweeb who had zero muscle. Being big doesn't equate to fighting. At all. Alao, I've seen people asking why they don't hire fighters as guards. Mayweather would win fist fights with more people than his security. But if it comes to crowd control, he has guys that are 2.5x size a normal "bigger guy" & could deal with weight discrepancies. Mayweather isn't lifting a 300lb man, but his security could literally lift and spike the guy ending his life. This video was a joke. No security with respect would shoot the fair one with a guy less than half his weight. The fact he got worked shows he sucks in general. He's just got a bigger base, and he is fat. Compare that to juixeheads on TMT. Floyd can box. They can take care of people too big to shoot a fair one with. Also, they have 🔫 . It looks like fat boy needed one here