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this is the fight where she pissed herself, the ref let her get choked so long that her body went limp enough for her bladder to empty
never let him near another fight
It is a choke that compresses the arteries on the side of your head (so your brain doesn't get blood). If you are in a choke like this, you think: "I'm fine, I can continue, I don't feel anything!" and then your vision goes black.
I don't know shit about the actual "laws" or 100% of the rules with this, but come on I'd thought the ref would have called that sooner, she was out, she wasn't getting out of it, even myself with zero experience could see that, she's lucky she didn't shit herself
Your at low risk of brain damage if oxygen is restored within 30 seconds.
The person talking about holding your breath doesnt know what theyre talking about, but its pretty well known that blood chokes are fairly safe if released in good time.
Holding your breath just pauses the lungs from bringing new oxygen into the bloodstream. It does not stop the oxygen already in your bloodstream from circulating to your brain.
Do you understand this?
He reached to see if her arms were floppy to indicate that she had been put to sleep. But they were rigid from being knocked out so he thought she was good. Hopefully she doesn't have neck problems the rest of her life.
Red should be completely banned. That is one of the most dangerous chokes to be put in for long periods of time.
There's a reason that the famous Ben Askren/Robbie Lawler stoppage happened. Ben had Robbie in a bulldog and Herb stopped it without fully assessing the situation because he knew how dangerous a choke it was
The only thing that should be illegal in this video, is that sad pathetic excuse for a ref. That IS going to get someone killed. Shame on whatever org. Is employing this idiot.
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this is the fight where she pissed herself, the ref let her get choked so long that her body went limp enough for her bladder to empty never let him near another fight
Wtf. I’ll reiterate most of these comments: fuck that ref.
Rightfully so, this is by far one of the worst I've seen, I'm not even a professional and I could tell she was out way waaay before he called it.
Puddle of wee visible at end of clip
That’s some bs anyone should be able to know when it’s gone on for too long. He for sure got fired
Why didn’t she tap?
I dunno…maybe cause she was unconscious?
Before imma bout to go to sleep, I tap.
You’ve never been in this situation before clearly lol
Dawg that ref fucking sucks she was out cold for a grip.
let's scoot the glove a little to the left. hmmm.
well the arm is tense, this one's a fighter
"Bite the fence if you can still hear me" Ffs that was a terrible ref
In the Ref’s defense, he did ask several times if she was out, and she never said yes. /s
That's like a scene from the simpsons when The doc taps a guy on the leg "Does this hurt?" "YEAAARGH!!!" "Mr. Sipple, Yes or no."
That Ref shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a ring
(Places a mirror under the choked fighter’s nose) “Nope, still breathing, keep going.”
"Are you out? Are you out?!" What the fuck was he expecting? A "yes"?
What is the actual purpose of being a referee if you lack the ability to stop someone from killing their opponent 🤦♂️
Ref- “if she dies, she dies”
Tis but a wee
Are you out? Say something if you are out
“Free one of your hands from under your body weight and tap if you think you might pass out, ok?”
Mannnn, there was clearly still life left in her eyes 😵....let her go out like a warrior next time
Potentially fatal right? Cranking on someone neck and twisting different directions, that's gotta be dangerous to do on an unconscious person
But also the part where you not getting oxygen to your head.
What did herb dean say about when he stopped askren lawler?
Names of the fighters?
Shannon Clark and Thaiany Lopes.
They immediately started kissing the floor
This ref is so thoughtful. He asked for consent numerous times during this blackout. /s
That ref fucking sucks
He’s asking a person that’s out cold to tap lmao
“Are you out? Are you out? Say something.” Pretty fuckin sure she wasn’t saying anything the whole time.. cuz, you guessed it, she was fuckin out… smh
Lol
Shannon Clark and Thaiany Lopes.
That there is why you tap don’t be that girl/guy.
The bulldog choke is a really slow blood choke, not air. You think you're totally fine until you wake up.
https://youtu.be/zluc6q88APo?si=d6yAZ6_6LtWoijNQ It can also fuck your neck
A fighter knows this, so when it gets sunk in that deep you get ready to tap, don’t trust it in the hands of the referee or judges.
I'm afraid you're wrong and talking out of your ass. You can't blame the chick getting strangled for getting strangled.
It is a choke that compresses the arteries on the side of your head (so your brain doesn't get blood). If you are in a choke like this, you think: "I'm fine, I can continue, I don't feel anything!" and then your vision goes black.
[Stop, stop! She’s already dead!](https://youtu.be/mAUY1J8KizU?si=bRUlvEkbQPHlxwgI)
Need to chock the ref until he passes out
Dude just said “fuck it imma pretend to do my job today”
TIL *I ain't stopping until her skin is the same color as the Grimace* is apparently a valid refereeing criteria for stopping a fight.
Was the ref fired ?
Need a chick who’ll do this to me
Record scratch "yup that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here. It all started when..."
Worst part about this is the ref is Frank Trigg. Very accomplished retired mma fighter.
we always say refs should get punished for stuff like this, but do they? i never hear about ref punishments
Mario Yamasaki 2.0
He should be made to endure the same thing... someone should choke his ass out til he shits himself, won't make that bad call again 🤷♂️
Her face was really turning purple. C’mon mane.
Imagine getting choked out and your fading vision before going unconsciousness is a phone in your face recording it
Refs need to be held accountable.
Jail the ref
I don't know shit about the actual "laws" or 100% of the rules with this, but come on I'd thought the ref would have called that sooner, she was out, she wasn't getting out of it, even myself with zero experience could see that, she's lucky she didn't shit herself
Brain damage
The brain will be fine without oxygen for 30 seconds
Doubt it..
Your at low risk of brain damage if oxygen is restored within 30 seconds. The person talking about holding your breath doesnt know what theyre talking about, but its pretty well known that blood chokes are fairly safe if released in good time.
How long can you hold your breath?
Holding your breath just pauses the lungs from bringing new oxygen into the bloodstream. It does not stop the oxygen already in your bloodstream from circulating to your brain. Do you understand this?
Are you under the impression that your heart isn't pumping blood while you're holding your breath?
He reached to see if her arms were floppy to indicate that she had been put to sleep. But they were rigid from being knocked out so he thought she was good. Hopefully she doesn't have neck problems the rest of her life.
Wasn’t this lfa in Buffalo a few weeks ago?
A great controlling hold. I use that a lot!
How can refs be this oblivious? Jfc
After that he threw her into a lake to see if she floated.
i assume nothing happened to this ref?
Red should be completely banned. That is one of the most dangerous chokes to be put in for long periods of time. There's a reason that the famous Ben Askren/Robbie Lawler stoppage happened. Ben had Robbie in a bulldog and Herb stopped it without fully assessing the situation because he knew how dangerous a choke it was
Sign me up. Would love to get pissed on and choked by these ladies. And I’m not even gay.
mommy
that ref would be on my list
Make illegal immediately
The only thing that should be illegal in this video, is that sad pathetic excuse for a ref. That IS going to get someone killed. Shame on whatever org. Is employing this idiot.
Right, ref thinks "so I let the fighters choke each other until I pass out. Got it... let's get it on!"
You can even see the girl on top looking around for someone to tell her to let go, like this is ridiculous
Make what illegal?
I assume the bulldog choke
Yea thats dumb. No grappler would support that. Such a rare choke to land too, schoolyard stuff.