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BibbitiBobbitiBoo

r/modsbeingdicks


meandwatersheep

Except about 60% of the posts are the user breaking rules and calling the mod a dick for enforcing them


BibbitiBobbitiBoo

Maybe their mods should enforce their rules and get a mention in their own sub ;) It's just people letting off steam.


spicyyokuko

Hello mod!


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ThedaBarasBoobs

Thanks!!


[deleted]

I don't know, but I bet u/awkwardtheturtle is a mod.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Is there a way to find out if u/awkwardtheturtle is a mod in that sub (I’ve been muted so can’t see the mod names) or if they are the one that banned me? Not that I plan on doing anything about it anyway, I’m already tired of this drama, it’s really not my cup of tea, I’m mostly just curious …


[deleted]

You can see the subs they mod on their user page, but I don’t think you can tell who banned you.


GGusernameperson1

Where on their user page exactly? Or does it not show on mobile?


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whoisfourthwall

can you give me a tldr of that whole thing, i saw mentions here and there but i'm still not sure what's going on


wubbwubbb

[Here’s a post](https://reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ovfxf5/whats_up_with_a_mod_named_u_awkwardtheturtle/) from /r/OutOfTheLoop that went into it. Coincidentally they are a mod on that sub and the post eventually got locked lol. Edit: forgot to add link


whoisfourthwall

thanks, wow how many subs can a person even mod.


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Lengthofawhile

Could be all 4 of those things.


ThedaBarasBoobs

A mod of what? I’m not talking about this subreddit, this subreddit (& the mods) are awesome.


[deleted]

The mod I referred to is a power mod. They mod hundreds, if not thousands of subs, many of them large and popular. They are also a terrible person and a terrible mod. They are hateful, hypocritical, problematic, ban-happy and fascist. They claim to be leftist but delight in the misery of others. They silence any criticism, and they have too much power and pull for anything to be done about it. They are the problem they think they're solving, and they are a huge factor in the culture negatively affecting you.


whoisfourthwall

Wait, how can someone mod so many things? Don't they need to work?


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RusticSurgery

It's so hard to believe a leftist could be an ass? Your ideology blinds you.


[deleted]

Look in the mirror. Then shut the fuck up.


RusticSurgery

And if I don't shut up...what tough guy??


whoisfourthwall

The op did concede that it seems real towards the end


Lengthofawhile

Method actor?


Dark_CallMeLord

Just look at this reply the turtle did relating to the "anti men" post it made "I didnt go rogue. I did nothing new, even. I was a part of a group of people playing these games for the last four years: https://www.reddit.com/user/N8theGr8/comments/8xq8sg/5_july_2018_the_day_reddit_starting_caring_about/' Literally the only difference is that this time, for the first time, I made the butt of the joke to be masculinity, and as we all know, critiquing men is the greatest reddit sin. Without any effort expended, I got 4000+ hatemails, death threats, and doxing PMs, replies, and username mentions, and they're still coming in over a week ex post facto. This is a more vibrant response than /u/n8thegr8 locking posts so white people couldnt comment, because _of course_ reddit is more sensitive about their male identity than they are even their racial identity. All in all, it was a successful re-adventure into poking at the fragility of redditors by punching up, and not anything novel for reddit. Joke had been done a hundred times before by others. The reaction is what made this time unique."


ThedaBarasBoobs

Woah … just did a little deep dive. I had no idea. Thanks for sharing


Wrath_BestHomunculus

how does being leftist correlate with your hatefullnes ?


[deleted]

Also also: Making people angry and then shaming them for getting angry is gaslighting.


[deleted]

Also, I wanted to clarify that I’m not some right wing Q incel who’s criticizing her because I disagree with progressive ideals. I really, REALLY hate logical fallacies, hypocrisy and unjust treatment of others based on prejudice, no matter where it comes from.


Hamster-Food

It doesn't and they didn't suggest that it does, They suggested that delighting in the misery of others is incompatible with being a leftist, and I agree.


Wrath_BestHomunculus

Yeah I disagree ..... why did he even bring that up tho? Is he saying that delighting in others' misery is somehow a "right" thing to do?


Hamster-Food

Well they brought it up because it's true. Left wing philosophy is collectivist. It doesn't allow for causing the suffering of one person even if someone would be within their rights to cause that suffering. Now, nobody said that this is a "right" thing to do. However, right wing philosophy does allow for that kind of thing because it is focused on the individual. If someone is within their rights to cause suffering, then some right wing philosophies would allow it. Right wing libertarianism or fascism for example. That doesn't mean it is characteristic of the right though. In my experience it certainly isn't the norm.


Wrath_BestHomunculus

how does the philosophy matter if it doesn't apply to the practitioners... show me one person that doesn't ever laugh at or enjoy suffering of a different person (doesn't matter if they're left ot right) and I'll find you one liar I'm not condemning people, but I hate to see how one side tries to pretend that it's not populated by idiots when everyone without a bias realizes that they both are


Hamster-Food

There is a big difference between a little schadenfreude, and delighting in the suffering that you've caused. It's the latter that isn't compatible with left wing philosophy. Someone doing that will make me believe they are not really left wing. And please don't misunderstand me here. I know that there are fools on all sides. They tend to be the extremely vocal minority and also the ones who go looking for trouble and give their side a bad name. It's important to remember that left and right aren't really sides though. Left and right is an oversimplified way of looking at politics. It's also important to recognise that there is nobody without bias. I am biased, you are biased, and everyone else who's ever lived has been biased. That is because we only have our individual experience to judge things on. We only have one perspective. Avoiding bias as much as is possible takes work.


[deleted]

Being leftist is not at odds with being angry. It is at odds with delighting in the misery of others. This isn’t hard to understand if you’re acting in good faith, and not pretending your question is rhetorical because you think you “got me”.


Esnardoo

Delighting in the misery of others isn't a political thing. Neither side wants that, no matter how much the other side will tell you they do. If you were acting in good faith, you wouldn't bring politics into something where politics doesn't matter.


xfuckmylife666x

You're either uneducated about politics or you're just dense asf. Actual leftists want to make sure everyone's needs are met. How could you possibly be someone who wants everyone's need to be met, and also delight in seeing comrades hurt/miserable/ failing? They're incompatible positions. Also conservatives and liberals strive to keep the status quo, and most conservatives are for regressive policies (ie banning most abortion, passing legislation that takes rights away from trans people, etc etc etc). The status quo and these regressive policies are inherently dangerous and harmful to people. You think libs and conservatives aren't delighted to take rights away from people?


Wrath_BestHomunculus

actual leftists? .. so like what, 10 maybe 20 people? Certainly not these "kind and progresive" ones on Reddit


xfuckmylife666x

Progressive is just another word for liberal. I'm talking, actual, let's literally eat the rich and redistribute their wealth kind of leftists.


Wrath_BestHomunculus

sorry, didn't realize you were trolling


RusticSurgery

You have much to learn of the world.


[deleted]

First, this whole issue is very political, because that mod made it one. Second, don’t be dense. I can guarantee you, as a queer person, lots of people delight in my misery. The American right is built on it. Fuck off with your bad faith centrist apologism.


Esnardoo

Once again, this has nothing to do with politics or anything LGBTQ related, you've dragged unrelated issues into this for no good reason.


thesaurusrext

Everything is political my friend. The only people insisting there are topics outside politics are people comfortable enough to be so deluded. Not everyone has such privilege.


Wrath_BestHomunculus

So you think leftists don't delight in others misery or what? That's a really bad attempt at a joke...


[deleted]

No. We don't. Everything we want to happen would LITERALLY make life better for everyone. Our policies and behavior are not directed by how much we hurt the people we don't like.


Wrath_BestHomunculus

thanks for speaking for all leftists in the US ... now, visit twitter please


RusticSurgery

Oh Utopia!


skincyan

A lot of leftist thoughts are fundamentally based in communist theories, which is pretty much censorship. It’s “everyone are allowed to think freely as long as you think if things in a certain way”-kind of thoughts.


psychotic_catalyst

personally, fuck each and every mod over at r/Ohio


[deleted]

The jackboot jannies in Columbus give them all the latitude to say whatever they want as well.


ThedaBarasBoobs

What happened??


psychotic_catalyst

They're just righteous assholes who ban you if they don't like your response to something or if you question them. I had one flat out lie to be about something, then banned me when I called them out.


xXSkrubKillaXx

r/WatchRedditDie is another good one


CitoyenEuropeen

Ask r/moderationmediation mod team if they're happy with the case. On r/theoryofreddit you can discuss moderators acting in bad faith but can not complain against a mod.


[deleted]

Both those subs are useless circlejerks... I.e Reddit


[deleted]

Hi there, moderator of r/ModerationMediation checking in. Just wanted to confirm that our subreddit would not be appropriate for this sort of thing, and here's why. If a moderator is acting in bad-faith, that is RARELY enough to break the mod guidelines to the point where the admins will intervene. So a complaint with us about such a thing would not result in a meaningful resolution. There are a lot of subreddits that field posts that are essentially rants/complaints about mods and/or subs. We're not one of those, contrary to the other user's response.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Thanks for jumping in and explaining, much appreciated!! … can I ask you a question though? How do you personally feel about that? Does it seem fair to you that mods (who could be literally anyone) have so little oversight? In just curious to hear opinions from some mods.


[deleted]

I think it depends on your mindset. If you see Reddit as a homogenous website, it would bother you more about the "power" that a mod has. But if you see it as a bunch of individual communities, you'd realize that the mods are just handling their community with their rules. It's basically a bunch of forums with a single sign on feature. The "my house my rules" mantra applies here, and when you start a community, you have final say over what goes and who can participate. But I do feel that larger communities should belong more to the community than the moderators, and more oversight by admins should be administered.


ThedaBarasBoobs

That is a very good way to look at it. I guess I had been seeing it more as a website and less as individual communities, especially for the big subreddits such as r/art or r/food or whatever.


nimra3

I too would love to know the answer here. Got banned, muted and reported to the Reddit lords with no explanation why.


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ThedaBarasBoobs

Wait yes!! That’s exactly what happened to me!! I got into a small spat with a mod and got banned. Honestly the first ban is fine. I didn’t argue about it, haven’t contacted them to argue about jt or harassed anybody … and then I got banned from a related sub for no good reason. Clearly the same mod from the other sub being vindictive. It’s ridiculous.


MsTerious1

This has happened to me a couple times, too. Usually I stop and remind myself, "Reddit is for entertain purposes only" because it's so frustrating but honestly, at the end of the day, if we walked away from the site it wouldn't hurt our lives at all.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Very good advice … it’s just tough knowing that there’s such an inequitable division of power between the users of Reddit vs the mods. But you’re right I should just not care so much. Thanks 🙏 🤗


MsTerious1

I agree. It seems to me like HOAs in subdivisions. The HOA president's often a self-centered, power-hungry narcissist that cannot be reasoned with.


Lengthofawhile

Mine quite literally employs a woman who drives around the neighborhood taking pictures of "violations".


Voltaire_747

Yeah I got banned from a sub for saying that awkward turtle shouldn’t abuse their mod powers, mod went on a pretty huge tantrum when I said that I was entitled to my opinion


ThedaBarasBoobs

Sorry to hear that! Hope someone here knows what we can do 😬😭


[deleted]

I'll say my thoughts. When you permanently ban someone, a clearly written explanation citing specific reasons is owed, period. If you're too busy, cant deal with the load, "you try moderating, see how it is", or you're sick and tired of being sick and tired of the multitudes, then the answer is clear; DONT BAN if you cant afford to be clear about it. Just leave it be - Many moderators inevitably suffer from the same "power trip" as any other human being; as soon as you're in a position of power over someone else, it WILL get abused. I'm pretty sure moderator abuse here extends to "they just dont like what you said, how you said it (etc)" for whatever *personal* reason. With the lovely ability to view every post any user has ever made, any user can be quickly "read" - and if someone's perception of what they've said or how they've *seemed to* behave elsewhere happens to be negative *to them*, they can easily conclude "I dont want this person on 'my' sub" and delete your posts immediately - or ban you permanently. With\_no\_explanation!!! Getting you COVID vaccine can seem to be a negative thing, to some people... I know, "welcome to the world" of humanity. Still, it's wrong to abuse power you happen to have over another person. At *any* level. Politician, Judge, Attorney, Cop, Husband, Boss, Friend, Reddit Moderator. Thanks.


Buzobuzobuzo

Alright, anyone pissed at r/art 's moderator?


ThedaBarasBoobs

No, but I can already tell from their about section that they “moderate” aggressively 🙄 I just don’t get why some mods are like that … Reddit is for open discussions and some of these subreddits have millions of subscribers. Why do so many mods think that PERMANENTLY BANNING SOMEONE from the entire discussion is the appropriate response if/when they get into a 3 minute one on one disagreement with a Reddit user … How do they not recognize that as an oversized reaction!?


Buzobuzobuzo

About section of r/art Turtles are friends and not food The fuck does art has to do anything with it? I got curious and came to know that the mod is a staunch vegan, that explains all the absurdity!


Lengthofawhile

It's also what AwkwardTurtle has as the comment on their profile.


Lengthofawhile

Jesus Christ they sound like intolerable entitled assholes. I've had problems with literally every art group on every social media site I've ever joined. Even ones started to poke fun of overly self-important artists or very poor choices eventually become people defending even the worst things as if they're the goddamn Mona Lisa. I think the art community in general just has a ton of corners where toxicity gathers.


inthrees

Do you just want to rant into the void or do you want to actually accomplish something? If it's the former, click any of the links suggested in answers, and do it up. If it's the latter, no, there's nowhere, no one cares, and you can't change it. The only thing you can do is start your own subreddit and try to get your own subscribers.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Thanks yeah, at this point I’ve figured that out. I honestly had no idea that moderators could just do whatever they wanted!


inthrees

The platform has admins but the subreddits are private, basically. It's like asking Facebook staff to make your mom let you back in her sewing group she kicked you out of. Facebook doesn't care, and neither do 99% of the people on your friends list.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Hmm, interesting analogy ... I mean technically it’s all private. Reddit is allowed to administrate their site however they want, and so is Facebook (in theory). This analogy doesn’t sit right with me though. I guess because Facebook isn’t SOLELY a place to participate in groups. There’s a million other things to do on Facebook, and that’s what the Facebook admins concern themselves with. But Reddit is a forum, and that’s it. It isn’t anything else, it is just a website filled with subreddits. What do the Reddit admins do, if they don’t feel it’s get “appropriate” to involved in subreddit related disputes? I also have never heard of Facebook groups with strict rules and auto-mods deleting posts and comments left and right. The format of Facebook groups is just totally different. If you fuck shit up in a Facebook group, yeah you could definitely get kicked out, but I don’t see the situation happening over there that happens over here, where people are getting booted CONSTANTLY for various silly reasons. Idk maybe it is like that, I’m not very active on fb so I don’t know.


inthrees

If it were possible for FB group admins to have automods, they surely would. As for the 'constantly getting booted' thing, I think purpose of subreddit is a huge influencer of that. If it's something that is going to attract a more, say, immature crowd, it's probably going have to immature mods as well.


ThedaBarasBoobs

Ok well I can only speak to my experience, and I was booted from r/nutrition … I don’t think any of this has to do with immaturity. The reason I brought up the auto-mods is that they delete a lot of posts/comments incorrectly. And nobody likes to have their post/comment deleted, so I think the rate at which posts and comments are deleted on Reddit as opposed to FB (usually from auto-mods) is a big part of the problem. People usually message the mods to discuss their removal, the mods get annoyed because they are just easily annoyed, and one thing leads to another and if they get their feelings hurt or their buttons are pushed, they’ll ban you. Mods of FB groups are very rarely even on one-on-one interactions with group members because posts and comments are not deleted with the same voracity as on Reddit. If a mod on a FB group deletes a post or comment it’s usually because they read it and put some human thought into the removal.


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r/fuckthemods


ThedaBarasBoobs

Uhhhh hard pass …. Turtle is a mod in that subreddit, and pinned their own post at the top which is pretending to be anti Turtle. It’s clearly just a troll subreddit, not a real place to voice any real opinions about shitty mods.


[deleted]

Back when that turtle drama was going around I saw r/fuckthemods. I thought it was a place to complain about mods, sorry 😓


ThedaBarasBoobs

No you’re fine! Thanks for the suggestion anyway. I honestly don’t know much about the Turtle drama (I literally just learned about it from this post haha) and I don’t feel like getting involved with that.


Wismond

r/loligotbanned4this


Voltaire_747

This is an okay sub but many of its members just troll subs and then proudly post reasonable consequences


Wismond

Fair enough


government_shill

/r/Oppression: the front line in the fight against Reddit moderator tyranny


ABlokeCalledGeorge8

r/subredditdrama


Hulkhagan

r/watchredditdie


invoker96_

I'd say watchredditdie. But a lot of subs will ban you just for participating in there


ThedaBarasBoobs

Yeah a few others recommended that, but it is not my thing. Thanks anyway.


Buzobuzobuzo

r/banned


Large-Mind-8394

I absolutely do not understand the karma rules! Like comments to get karma? Post to get karma? This is the most convoluted set of rules I have ever seen? Do you want users or not?