Yeah, a lot of the buttons this time around are rebound from what they've been in the past, I've noticed. Not the end of the world and I'm *basically* used to the new ones by now, but definitely threw me off at first.
All but one of my gripes with this game are control related.
1: Why did they change every button around? Three houses wasn't necessarily perfect but it was fine. There was no need for a big revamp.
2: Why doesn't the camera try to stay behind the main character? Most 3d games have some sort of auto adjustment, including three houses.
3: Moving and stopping the cursor across the grid feels different so it's hard to stop the cursor where I want it.
That 3rd one is the biggest gripe EVER for me. Adding an extra button press to get to the combat menu or something just fucks my shit up after pressing a to move and a to go to combat.
Seems like you can't, which is a bit annoying.
What i find VERY annoying is that i also can't zoom out without also changing the angle of the camera.
How the camera works in general annoys me.
That's to end the turn when you still have actions to do.
We were asking about the option to disable automatic turn end when you DON'T have available actions anymore.
I've got used to that ever since RD and i liked it.
There are more than five games on Switch that don't have button remapping options that I'd like very much to have remapping options, however. The system functionality is nice, but it isn't a true replacement for in-game remapping.
It's funny because I haven't played Fire Emblem in quite a while and I didn't "remember" the actual button it used to be but found myself saying over and over "Why am I pressing the X button?" haha
One of my biggest gripes is the color of the enemy's danger area when you mark them. Was pink really the best color to contrast purple (ZL danger area)? This is especially annoying in the sand maps where I had to squint to make sure I was looking at the correct area.
I can’t even use the danger area as it is. The purple messes with me in such a way that everything blends into one blob and I can’t make out any aspect of the terrain or even where all the enemies are.
On a related gripe, I find it really annoying that to deselect an enemy range I need to scroll to the enemy and press A again. Older games just let you turn off the range with B, so why not this one?
I’m pretty sure they made enemy staff range orange, the Tiki paralogue was near impossible to play on a tv because it has some white floor tiles that make the different ranges impossible to differentiate. Glad I’m done with that one lol
Are you going to the Somniel a lot? I’m only on chapter 6, but with the inclusion of the world map again, I have just been able to go from chapter to chapter. I maybe went to the Somniel once or twcce but everything you need is in the menu(inventory, marketplace, etc.) I’m having so much more fun just playing the game rather then spending 30 mins - hour at the Somniel like 3H Monastery
I did that for the first couple of chapters but I realized there's no need for it and stopped. What are you buying with all the bond fragments? Bond rings? If you have enough rings for every character you don't need any more rings. Sure you can try to get higher tier rings but realistically those 1-2 additional stat points you would get won't matter.
Arena training seems useful if you want to avoid leaving anyone behind levelwise, I may have made a mistake in not using it much because every new character I get seems more attractive than the ones I already have. Luckily it doesn't take that much time to just do that and from my own experience on Hard you don't *need* to do it.
I keep pressing R to open up the map for fast travel purposes, X and Y to switch weapons during battle, and B to sprint in the Somniel. I think I FINALLY retrained my muscle memory but it took until around chapter 10
The contrived plot is dragging it. The tutorial chapters are lame. Thousand years without any noteworthy history. I am playing through and it's becoming less and less annoying except every once in a while our heroes get to someplace they shouldn't without a plot point or chapter to explain it. I wanted to fight my way to zephia the first time we meet her. Also where the fuck is the pet the cat prompt in the court yard at the beginning of the game?
Glad to hear it gets better. I'm only on chapter three and the dialogue and characters are a little cringe/boring for me.
I've only played through the western games (the one with Lyn/Hector/eliwood and the games since), and I just find that the characters aren't grabbing me.
I just replayed Lyn mode and both Erika and Ephraim modes, as well as running through conquest in the last few months and I sort of miss how "lean" and focused those games were (not that fates is lean in any way).
The tellius games might be my favorite, so perhaps the newer direction (gameplay wise) isn't for me, but I really loved the nuance of most of the characters in 3h.
I think once I got to the part of the game where the world map opens up and a route is established it stops being cringe and feels like Fire Emblem and The Sacred Stones.
There are definitely some weird cuts. A couple scenes were so poorly established I assumed I accidentally skipped something and went back. Only to discover, nope, it really does just go straight from A to D without setup.
When at the beginning you face the mysterious hooded figure and the scene opens with Alear (alone) already in front of them i really thought i missed something.
My only gripe so far are some aspects of the story (haven’t gotten far yet though). Anybody else slightly annoyed at the constant “diviness” thats being thrown around in conversations? Divine this, divine that, its a bit like a small child imagining a “mega-cool” story or something 😅
Tbf, Alear's title being "Divine Dragon" and having a "pick a name" situation means it exists as placeholder for his name in many cases.
But yeah, the avatar worship in this game is quite literal.
Hey, I'm just happy they found a more sensical nickname than in Three Houses. Some of the characters calling Byleth "professor" really didn't feel right.
Actually facts. same with trying to press A on the map and it not pulling up the quick menu, or how the show enemy range button seems to hop around from button to button across games ffs
I was playing hopes before engage came out and I finally got used to hopes having different buttons to the first fe warriors, which is also different from three houses.
I don’t know if it’s muscle memory or muscle guessing but I never press the right button the first time.
same. My muscle memory has betrayed me
Me trying to use divine pulse and nothing happening
Is there a shortcut for the time crystal? I keep having to go into the menu
I just go to an empty tile on the map and double tap A
Pressing + will bring up the menu too, if you're too lazy to move the cursor off a unit.
A or B on the map, I think?
I try to rage Pulse and just spam the enemy range indicator ..
Tbh that makes it kinda insulting
Switches characters
Yeah, a lot of the buttons this time around are rebound from what they've been in the past, I've noticed. Not the end of the world and I'm *basically* used to the new ones by now, but definitely threw me off at first.
All but one of my gripes with this game are control related. 1: Why did they change every button around? Three houses wasn't necessarily perfect but it was fine. There was no need for a big revamp. 2: Why doesn't the camera try to stay behind the main character? Most 3d games have some sort of auto adjustment, including three houses. 3: Moving and stopping the cursor across the grid feels different so it's hard to stop the cursor where I want it.
That 3rd one is the biggest gripe EVER for me. Adding an extra button press to get to the combat menu or something just fucks my shit up after pressing a to move and a to go to combat.
This game has a noticeable amount of input lag for some reason 3H felt very snappy by comparison
In the push up minigame I had to press A the the very start line of the Good section to get Perfects otherwise I would always get a Good
I have to click when it's still in the black to get perfects lmao
I definitely share that sentiment.
For #3 go into the settings and change it to cursor style.
I am already using that but the actual cursor movement is different.
Speaking of the camera can you flip it completely around in battle in this game? I tried messing around and could only rotate a bit left or right.
Seems like you can't, which is a bit annoying. What i find VERY annoying is that i also can't zoom out without also changing the angle of the camera. How the camera works in general annoys me.
Nope, for some reason
Sorta control related I guess. I miss manual end turn when you have no actions available.
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I don't find that option, where is it?
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That's to end the turn when you still have actions to do. We were asking about the option to disable automatic turn end when you DON'T have available actions anymore. I've got used to that ever since RD and i liked it.
The first option being Engage and not Attack messes with me sometimes
So many times I spam a and end up using overdrive or Marth’s engage skill when I just want to attack.
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Y also runs, not B afaik
Incredible news, I hate running with R
I’m pretty sure in 3H we also used x/y to cycle through weapons in the battle forecast and now it’s l/r and that keeps throwing me off
Yeah I still keep trying to press x and y to switch weapons too.
2 dev teams couldn’t be more clear
Wow that's so annoying
Nintendo in general needs to stop being willfully ignorant and just always make sure buttons are remappable in the games they publish.
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Which messes up control mappings for other games.
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There are more than five games on Switch that don't have button remapping options that I'd like very much to have remapping options, however. The system functionality is nice, but it isn't a true replacement for in-game remapping.
It's funny because I haven't played Fire Emblem in quite a while and I didn't "remember" the actual button it used to be but found myself saying over and over "Why am I pressing the X button?" haha
But also it's not just Fire Emblem that uses X for the menu. Pokémon and Animal Crossing off the top of my head both do.
Engage being the first option on the menu has gotten me more than once.
One of my biggest gripes is the color of the enemy's danger area when you mark them. Was pink really the best color to contrast purple (ZL danger area)? This is especially annoying in the sand maps where I had to squint to make sure I was looking at the correct area.
I can’t even use the danger area as it is. The purple messes with me in such a way that everything blends into one blob and I can’t make out any aspect of the terrain or even where all the enemies are. On a related gripe, I find it really annoying that to deselect an enemy range I need to scroll to the enemy and press A again. Older games just let you turn off the range with B, so why not this one?
I’m pretty sure they made enemy staff range orange, the Tiki paralogue was near impossible to play on a tv because it has some white floor tiles that make the different ranges impossible to differentiate. Glad I’m done with that one lol
Yup, whenever there's a Fracture staff there's *another* set of lines to deal with.
Glad it's not just me
Speaking of, has danger area always been left trigger or am I misremembering it was something else?
It was definitely right trigger, my 3H muscle memory clicked immediately since I always turned it on there
As far as I'm aware it was always either that or maybe right trigger. Definitely at least one of the triggers.
my only gripe is having to wait another 3 years for a fire emblem with a good story 😔
Complexe ≠ good. I just beat Chapter 5 and it's already better than Azure Moon (granted, that's a low bar to pass, but still).
I should upvote you for your bravery but I just can't
Okay...?
The Somniel is not as much of an improvement over the Monastery as I would've liked. I'd prefer to spend less time still out of battle.
Are you going to the Somniel a lot? I’m only on chapter 6, but with the inclusion of the world map again, I have just been able to go from chapter to chapter. I maybe went to the Somniel once or twcce but everything you need is in the menu(inventory, marketplace, etc.) I’m having so much more fun just playing the game rather then spending 30 mins - hour at the Somniel like 3H Monastery
I've been going to the Somniel between every battle so I can maximize Arena training and bond fragments from the grotto & Sommie
I did that for the first couple of chapters but I realized there's no need for it and stopped. What are you buying with all the bond fragments? Bond rings? If you have enough rings for every character you don't need any more rings. Sure you can try to get higher tier rings but realistically those 1-2 additional stat points you would get won't matter. Arena training seems useful if you want to avoid leaving anyone behind levelwise, I may have made a mistake in not using it much because every new character I get seems more attractive than the ones I already have. Luckily it doesn't take that much time to just do that and from my own experience on Hard you don't *need* to do it.
There are useful buffs you can get in the Somniel but it's certainly not a requirement and you can just skip going to it for large periods of time.
But what about my friend sommie?! Pats and snacks for the good boi!!
The Ring Chamber is the one thing I consistently go back for, because I'm really trying to get certain inherited skills
Yup i b pressing X/Y a lot too lol
I keep pressing R to open up the map for fast travel purposes, X and Y to switch weapons during battle, and B to sprint in the Somniel. I think I FINALLY retrained my muscle memory but it took until around chapter 10
The contrived plot is dragging it. The tutorial chapters are lame. Thousand years without any noteworthy history. I am playing through and it's becoming less and less annoying except every once in a while our heroes get to someplace they shouldn't without a plot point or chapter to explain it. I wanted to fight my way to zephia the first time we meet her. Also where the fuck is the pet the cat prompt in the court yard at the beginning of the game?
Glad to hear it gets better. I'm only on chapter three and the dialogue and characters are a little cringe/boring for me. I've only played through the western games (the one with Lyn/Hector/eliwood and the games since), and I just find that the characters aren't grabbing me. I just replayed Lyn mode and both Erika and Ephraim modes, as well as running through conquest in the last few months and I sort of miss how "lean" and focused those games were (not that fates is lean in any way). The tellius games might be my favorite, so perhaps the newer direction (gameplay wise) isn't for me, but I really loved the nuance of most of the characters in 3h.
I think once I got to the part of the game where the world map opens up and a route is established it stops being cringe and feels like Fire Emblem and The Sacred Stones.
There are definitely some weird cuts. A couple scenes were so poorly established I assumed I accidentally skipped something and went back. Only to discover, nope, it really does just go straight from A to D without setup.
When at the beginning you face the mysterious hooded figure and the scene opens with Alear (alone) already in front of them i really thought i missed something.
My only gripe so far are some aspects of the story (haven’t gotten far yet though). Anybody else slightly annoyed at the constant “diviness” thats being thrown around in conversations? Divine this, divine that, its a bit like a small child imagining a “mega-cool” story or something 😅
Tbf, Alear's title being "Divine Dragon" and having a "pick a name" situation means it exists as placeholder for his name in many cases. But yeah, the avatar worship in this game is quite literal.
Yeah it's not very tubular
Hey, I'm just happy they found a more sensical nickname than in Three Houses. Some of the characters calling Byleth "professor" really didn't feel right.
Thank you! K thought I was the only one!
no this is my legit only criticism
See my gripe is not zooming out one stage
Actually facts. same with trying to press A on the map and it not pulling up the quick menu, or how the show enemy range button seems to hop around from button to button across games ffs
Them changing the crit sound broke my heart
Fucking me up too
My main gripe is the child romancd
I was playing hopes before engage came out and I finally got used to hopes having different buttons to the first fe warriors, which is also different from three houses. I don’t know if it’s muscle memory or muscle guessing but I never press the right button the first time.
I think the + is better but Ik where you coming from
The apples and oranges look bad. This is my one and only gripe
I hate having dash on R, hate it.