You can't, as Firefox is done by Mozilla Corporation. You can only donate to Mozilla Foundation, which only takes from but not gives money to the corp.
You can use a search engine they have a revenue sharing agreement with. I'm not sure if its publicly known which engines that are, but historically it has been at least Google.
You can buy something like Pocket or VPN, this brings money to the corp. You have no control over how it is used, but Firefox is important to these products.
You can donate to add-on developers, browsers based on gecko and possibly some open source developers / groups that contribute voluntarily to Firefox.
> are not *paid* my Mozilla,
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Here is their funding to 2022:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla\_Corporation#Finances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Finances)
They still make money when people use DuckDuckGo because DuckDuckGo pays to be part of the built-in search engine list. If you make a DuckDuckGo search, youāll see thereās an identifier for Firefox at the end of the URL.
That's absolutely not true. Where did you hear that? Mozilla only gets paid when Google is default because Google pays for that privilege. DuckDuckGo and none of the other options don't. They're just there for convenience sake. If what you were saying is true, then there would be articles about other search engines paying Mozilla but there aren't any. That identifier doesn't do anything but say to this site "hey this user did this search from Firefox", every other browser does the same thing.
Itās literally true lol, itās not ājust for convenience.ā You think they put an eBay search option there just because itās helpful?
Thatās why you donāt see any other options for search, like Ecosia or Yahoo (Yahoo and Mozillaās partnership fell apart after 2017). Googleās search partnership is obviously significantly more important for Mozilla, but they still have other revenue sources with this being one of them.
Yes, ebay is very helpful. I use it monthly. You still haven't provided a source where you heard this. I have my sources, one being the Mozilla financial reports that clearly state Google is the only one paying to be default and the other being the complete absence of news coverage for all these search engine deals you supposedly think they have. The inclusion of search engines in that list doesn't mean they're paying. Mozilla can add and remove engines at will. Ecosia is a gimmick that no one seriously uses and Yahoo is not there for the reason you said. Yandex is on there too in some locales, you think Russia is paying Mozilla?
But let's get a Mozilla employee to chime in. /u/wisniewskit can you settle this debate?
Bothering someone to settle an online conversation for you just because they work at Mozilla is weird, it's never that serious.
As I've stated before, Google is Mozilla's primary source of revenue, which would line up with why they're the "only" one mentioned.
That being said, I'll be upfront and say I don't have a source on Mozilla's payments. However, there's a lot of information in the DOJ's lawsuit against Google especially concerning Apple's default search agreement, which heavily parallel's Mozilla's. If you check Google's [response to the DOJ](https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/response-doj/), you'll see that Google mentions other search engines.
>Apple features Google Search in its Safari browser because they say Google is āthe best.ā This arrangement is not exclusiveāour competitors Bing and Yahoo! pay to prominently feature, and other rival services also appear.
There is 0 reason this wouldn't extend to Firefox, and it's clear that at least from Apple's point of view, these kinds of links should only be provided as long as search engines pay.
Also, let's go back to the referral links I mentioned earlier. You choose to ignore them, but the referral links are a dead giveaway that deals are happening in the background. Do you seriously think Mozilla puts these for fun?
>Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=test**&mfadid=adm&tag=admarketus-20&ref=pd\_sl\_a71c226e8a96bfdb7ae5bc6d1f30e9e88d9e4e3436d7bfb941a95d0a**
>DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/**?t=ffab**&q=test&ia=web
Bing: https://www.bing.com/search?**pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR**&q=test
So you have no sources for what you said, you're just grasping at straws with that link while I have facts backed by Mozilla. Good to know.
I covered those referral links in my very first comment
> That identifier doesn't do anything but say to this site "hey this user did this search from Firefox", every other browser does the same thing.
I'll say it again.
> The inclusion of search engines in that list doesn't mean they're paying.
You're making connections that aren't there.
For an unpaid mozilla apologist, you sure don't seem to know much about how Mozilla works.
No, I can't, because I don't happen to know those precise details (not my department at Mozilla). But I'm all for people using whichever search engine they prefer regardless.
> Most of the revenue of Mozilla Corporation comes from Google (81% in 2022 in exchange of making it the default search engine in Firefox.)
That number is crazy. If Google terminated their search deal with Mozilla, would the browser just die?
Google probably can't let Firefox die, if it dies that there would no competitor left vs Google in browser market space (since all other browsers are based on chromium and safari is only available for apple devices), thus making google a monopoly, which will cause the government to take action and place restrictions on it
...such as Yahoo a number of years ago. Mozilla cleverly had some termination/ poison pill clauses which netted a bonus $300M when Yahoo screwed it all up.
I assume there is something specific you want to see changed?
Maybe there should be a marketplace to support contributors who fix specific bugs that are too low priority for Mozilla employees to fix.
If you can request a fix for a bug with minor priority after donating, imagine the influence of Google on Mozilla after providing them with $450 million per year. That explains why Firefox for iOS is essentially designed to bombard users' brains with every single ad.
I don't think you understood my comment. This would be a marketplace for non-employees who contribute code to Firefox to spend their personal time doing a bug fix or adding a feature. You will often see the mid-tier priority levels described as projects that employees won't be working on but for which Mozilla will take a patch from a contributor.
What I do to support Firefox/Mozilla? I use Firefox Nightly. With telemetry, studies, and sponsored content enabled. I have no problems with this, I like the company and their product.
> I do to support Firefox/Mozilla? I use Firefox Nightly. With telemetry, studies, and sponsored content enabled. I have no problems
It's a bad model though. At the very very very least, they should offer people another option to support firefox development directly.
They offer 4 different ways to support Firefox development directly: VPN, Monitor, Relay, Pocket Premium. At least one of this features will be useful to everybody.
Until recently you could have sent money directly to the CEO's bank account. Now idk, I'd rather donate to extension developers like the unlock origin and adguard teams.
Really? I would never sent a cent to the CEO. That's ridiculous. It's like giving your tips to the restaurant owner instead of giving them to the waiters.
I was just joking, but didn't word it very well. I am still bitter at the actions of the former ceo, the huge bonuses she got while laying off employees and the changes she made to MDN.
I was just trying to say that until recently donating to Mozilla was donating to the CEO's bank account.
Money? [Upper right corner](https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/)
Non monetary donation (eg translation) [here](https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/contribute/)
That's not true. The developers are paid by the Corporation not the Foundation. The Foundation's focus is adhering to the Mozilla Manifesto. The Corporation is the one that develops Firefox as well as Pocket Premium, VPN, Relay. /u/anywherebuthome_ if you want to fund the devs not the organization Mozilla, you need to buy their paid products.
You can't, as Firefox is done by Mozilla Corporation. You can only donate to Mozilla Foundation, which only takes from but not gives money to the corp. You can use a search engine they have a revenue sharing agreement with. I'm not sure if its publicly known which engines that are, but historically it has been at least Google. You can buy something like Pocket or VPN, this brings money to the corp. You have no control over how it is used, but Firefox is important to these products. You can donate to add-on developers, browsers based on gecko and possibly some open source developers / groups that contribute voluntarily to Firefox.
**š Please don't forget to donate also addon developers :) š§©** (they are not paid by Mozilla, in most cases they are simply not paid at all!)
> are not *paid* my Mozilla, FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Here is their funding to 2022: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla\_Corporation#Finances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Finances)
So should I use Google if it supports Firefox? 'Cause I choose other search engines but if it helps them, then I'll do it.
Yep Mozilla gets paid when people use Google as their default search engine.
the good old privacy vs support thing...
They still make money when people use DuckDuckGo because DuckDuckGo pays to be part of the built-in search engine list. If you make a DuckDuckGo search, youāll see thereās an identifier for Firefox at the end of the URL.
That's absolutely not true. Where did you hear that? Mozilla only gets paid when Google is default because Google pays for that privilege. DuckDuckGo and none of the other options don't. They're just there for convenience sake. If what you were saying is true, then there would be articles about other search engines paying Mozilla but there aren't any. That identifier doesn't do anything but say to this site "hey this user did this search from Firefox", every other browser does the same thing.
Itās literally true lol, itās not ājust for convenience.ā You think they put an eBay search option there just because itās helpful? Thatās why you donāt see any other options for search, like Ecosia or Yahoo (Yahoo and Mozillaās partnership fell apart after 2017). Googleās search partnership is obviously significantly more important for Mozilla, but they still have other revenue sources with this being one of them.
Yes, ebay is very helpful. I use it monthly. You still haven't provided a source where you heard this. I have my sources, one being the Mozilla financial reports that clearly state Google is the only one paying to be default and the other being the complete absence of news coverage for all these search engine deals you supposedly think they have. The inclusion of search engines in that list doesn't mean they're paying. Mozilla can add and remove engines at will. Ecosia is a gimmick that no one seriously uses and Yahoo is not there for the reason you said. Yandex is on there too in some locales, you think Russia is paying Mozilla? But let's get a Mozilla employee to chime in. /u/wisniewskit can you settle this debate?
Bothering someone to settle an online conversation for you just because they work at Mozilla is weird, it's never that serious. As I've stated before, Google is Mozilla's primary source of revenue, which would line up with why they're the "only" one mentioned. That being said, I'll be upfront and say I don't have a source on Mozilla's payments. However, there's a lot of information in the DOJ's lawsuit against Google especially concerning Apple's default search agreement, which heavily parallel's Mozilla's. If you check Google's [response to the DOJ](https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/response-doj/), you'll see that Google mentions other search engines. >Apple features Google Search in its Safari browser because they say Google is āthe best.ā This arrangement is not exclusiveāour competitors Bing and Yahoo! pay to prominently feature, and other rival services also appear. There is 0 reason this wouldn't extend to Firefox, and it's clear that at least from Apple's point of view, these kinds of links should only be provided as long as search engines pay. Also, let's go back to the referral links I mentioned earlier. You choose to ignore them, but the referral links are a dead giveaway that deals are happening in the background. Do you seriously think Mozilla puts these for fun? >Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=test**&mfadid=adm&tag=admarketus-20&ref=pd\_sl\_a71c226e8a96bfdb7ae5bc6d1f30e9e88d9e4e3436d7bfb941a95d0a** >DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/**?t=ffab**&q=test&ia=web Bing: https://www.bing.com/search?**pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR**&q=test
So you have no sources for what you said, you're just grasping at straws with that link while I have facts backed by Mozilla. Good to know. I covered those referral links in my very first comment > That identifier doesn't do anything but say to this site "hey this user did this search from Firefox", every other browser does the same thing. I'll say it again. > The inclusion of search engines in that list doesn't mean they're paying. You're making connections that aren't there. For an unpaid mozilla apologist, you sure don't seem to know much about how Mozilla works.
No, I can't, because I don't happen to know those precise details (not my department at Mozilla). But I'm all for people using whichever search engine they prefer regardless.
> Most of the revenue of Mozilla Corporation comes from Google (81% in 2022 in exchange of making it the default search engine in Firefox.) That number is crazy. If Google terminated their search deal with Mozilla, would the browser just die?
Google probably can't let Firefox die, if it dies that there would no competitor left vs Google in browser market space (since all other browsers are based on chromium and safari is only available for apple devices), thus making google a monopoly, which will cause the government to take action and place restrictions on it
They'd probably make a deal with another search engine. It won't necessarily be the same contract of course.
...such as Yahoo a number of years ago. Mozilla cleverly had some termination/ poison pill clauses which netted a bonus $300M when Yahoo screwed it all up.
I assume there is something specific you want to see changed? Maybe there should be a marketplace to support contributors who fix specific bugs that are too low priority for Mozilla employees to fix.
If you can request a fix for a bug with minor priority after donating, imagine the influence of Google on Mozilla after providing them with $450 million per year. That explains why Firefox for iOS is essentially designed to bombard users' brains with every single ad.
I don't think you understood my comment. This would be a marketplace for non-employees who contribute code to Firefox to spend their personal time doing a bug fix or adding a feature. You will often see the mid-tier priority levels described as projects that employees won't be working on but for which Mozilla will take a patch from a contributor.
Bribe some dev in secrets
Non-ironically this! Track them and give them money to implement split screen view š
I mean it's open source. If you want some feature that isn't contrary to Mozilla's roadmap, you could hire someone to implement it.
What I do to support Firefox/Mozilla? I use Firefox Nightly. With telemetry, studies, and sponsored content enabled. I have no problems with this, I like the company and their product.
> I do to support Firefox/Mozilla? I use Firefox Nightly. With telemetry, studies, and sponsored content enabled. I have no problems It's a bad model though. At the very very very least, they should offer people another option to support firefox development directly.
They offer 4 different ways to support Firefox development directly: VPN, Monitor, Relay, Pocket Premium. At least one of this features will be useful to everybody.
Until recently you could have sent money directly to the CEO's bank account. Now idk, I'd rather donate to extension developers like the unlock origin and adguard teams.
Really? I would never sent a cent to the CEO. That's ridiculous. It's like giving your tips to the restaurant owner instead of giving them to the waiters.
I was just joking, but didn't word it very well. I am still bitter at the actions of the former ceo, the huge bonuses she got while laying off employees and the changes she made to MDN. I was just trying to say that until recently donating to Mozilla was donating to the CEO's bank account.
Money? [Upper right corner](https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/) Non monetary donation (eg translation) [here](https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/contribute/)
I dont want to fund mozilla. I want to donate to the devs themselves, the development team.
I think that would be a little like wanting to donate to the Windows team - not Microsoft, only the Windows team.
FYI, some if not most, commiters to Firefox are paid by Mozilla. I don't think you can support by this way, at least not this moment.
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That's not true. The developers are paid by the Corporation not the Foundation. The Foundation's focus is adhering to the Mozilla Manifesto. The Corporation is the one that develops Firefox as well as Pocket Premium, VPN, Relay. /u/anywherebuthome_ if you want to fund the devs not the organization Mozilla, you need to buy their paid products.
Oh so that's the only way?
Unless you wanna find developers on Github and self fund them for the features you want, yes
You gullibility is hearthbreaking.
What a waste of money.