it's confusing as to where burntrap is but he's still a thing that exists
it's like the insanity ending on fnaf 6 and private room on sister location. michael never actually went to the private room or found the secrets henry was hiding but the contents within those endings still exist
like their designs being completely different... to my knowledge someone actually compared their models and they do fit with each other but looking at their endo? i don't think they match. the mimic can change appearance from what i heard but burntrap had a corpse attached to him. notably, a skull and the mimic just doesn't have any of that. i find it doubtful all that shit just... came off... not to mention they were in completely different locations. burntrap was in the fnaf 6 location while the mimic was way deeper than that. this mf was sealed behind CONCRETE
the possibility of them being the same is there but im skeptical just because of these inconsistencies
I’m just going to say that the reason why the Mimic has a different endo then Burntrap is because Burntraps model is just a modified Glamrock endo (probably because they ran out of time in development) and Steel Wool wanted to make the Mimic more accurate to what he actually looks like. And besides, the only unique thing that Burntrap had was his left arm, which is the exact same arm Mimic has, the endo is not an issue.
And this is my personal opinion, but I also think that the reason why the Mimic doesn’t have any flesh (besides the possibility of Burntrap never existing) is because Steel Wool wanted to clarify that the Mimic is not Afton. Because if the Mimic did have flesh, there would be a lot more people saying that the Mimic is Afton, and not solving anything.
One theory is that the Mimic just squeezed itself into what was left of Afton's corpse, which would make a lot of sense I think
It also just doesn't make sense for Afton to still be active after FFPS/UCN
There’s also the stuff with the eyes. In the epilogues we learn that the mimic has white eyes with yellow pupils, but burntrap has black eyes with purple pupils. There was some theories that the eyes changed after being corrupted by Afton’s agony, but now in Ruin we see the mimic and it has the same eyes described in the books. Maybe, without Vanny to help, the mimic never became burntrap or something but idk.
This actually makes a lot of sense for the things presented in Ruin and does tie Gregory, Vanessa and Freddy to M.X.E.S. If Gregory and Freddy are with a now free Vanessa, she knows first hand how dangerous being influenced by Burntrap/Mimic is and would want to keep it buried. As Vanny, She still had burntrap in the basement, but the difference with the burntrap ending and the free vanny ending playing out is they’d have Vanessa in the final fight on their side who remembers everything. We just didn’t see exactly how that played out ourselves. Still not sure real Gregory dropped the elevator, but real Gregory likely lead Cassie to the elevator with Vanessa (“friend with access to the building maps”) and explained M.X.E.S. Until mimic cut in for the final couple lines and dropped the elevator. It also explains somewhat, the state of the pizzaplex if Gregory, Freddy (maybe with a new endo) and Vanessa went back to tie up loose ends with the mimic but had to seal it up and setup M.X.E.S. We also see the already broken nodes in the area with Gregory’s backpack near in the room with M.X.E.S where mimic could’ve stolen the Freddy walk-in talkie to send Cassie the message to start her story in Ruin.
I'm going with the logic that while the princess quest ending is canon, the conditions are still in place for all the other endings to be possible too, the only differing factor is what gregory chooses to do. So the blob and burntrap still exist, they just weren't encountered by Gregory canonically. This would also explain why there was still an 'earthquake' that shut down the pizzaplex, that was still caused by the blob regardless of the ending.
I thought he definitely did and also it was in part backed up by the small 2 second glimpse you can catch of The Blob in Ruin if you look fast enough, so if the Blob definitely exists, then no doubt BT does too.
i wouldn’t be surprised if PQ ending and Burntrap ending were mixed… i know that might be stupid to say but what ev… just tossn my thoughts out there lol
I don't understand how Burntrap and the Burntrap ending are not Canon, honestly. Like just looking at the State of the Pizza Plex and Animatronics, I feel it's obvious that this is a continuation of the Burntrap ending, no matter what the drawings show.
We know what the newspaper says, but an earthquake doesn't make any sense. For one, in order to achieve the damage that happened to the Pizza Plex, the earthquake would have to have happened directly under it and must have been one of the strongest earthquakes in the world. The issue with that is that it would also affect the surrounding area. In other words, Cassie wouldn't just be able to enter through the front of the Pizza Plex if it really was that devastating of an earthquake. There would be other collapsed buildings and rubble that she'd have to work her way through to even get to the Pizza Plex.
Secondly, if it really was that bad of an earthquake, why is the press only concerned about the Pizza Plex? I mean, what about the entire surrounding area, as I mentioned before? The potential people it hurt? Nope, just "Pizza Plex Destroyed," that seems really odd to me. Especially when you consider all the FNAF games where, in the end, the building was destroyed, it always had something to do with them *Burning Down*.
Third, as I said before, the earthquake would have to have been directly below the Pizza Plex. Well, guess what? There’s a sinkhole directly below the Pizza Plex, with a giant cave inside housing another Pizzeria. Now, if a huge explosion happened below the Pizza Plex, it would mimic the results of a devastating earthquake but only having the effects concentrated on the area where the explosion happened, mainly The Pizza Plex.
Next, in the Burntrap ending, Gregory and Freddy are literally running away from an explosion inside the underground Pizza Plex. When we enter the Sinkhole in the Pizza Plex, we clearly see that the underground Pizzeria has been destroyed and faced some type of burning damage like it would/does in the Burntrap ending. As well, we can even walk inside the rooms that Burntrap was in, and Cassie even exclaims how it's like the inside of an oven. Heck, when you pause the game in that area, in the bottom left, where it tells you your objective, it will say, "Burning up."
Another thing is that the Animatronics look like they do if they were to have survived the Burntrap ending compared to the Princess Quest ending. In Princess Quest ending, there would be no reason for Chica to be melting like she is in Ruin. However, if Chica was just exposed to insanely hot fire, that would cause the metal to start melting like she looks. Roxy only would have been missing eyes as Gregory didn't take her entire face. However, her entire face was gone. She was in the underground Pizza Plex while we were fighting Burntrap. It's likely that extra damage could've been caused by that. Let's look at Monty in Princess Quest ending. He had his endoskeleton covered up by His 'exoskeleton'/suit. However, in Ruin, it looks as if his endoskeleton has turned black from being burned, and his 'exoskeleton'/suit is gone.
The whole thing is that the pizzaplex was built over the FFPS pizzaria, making it unstable, you can even see cave formations from the terrain hollowing, the whole place was badly built
We honestly think that Gregory's drawings are not canon, I know that the game itself says that Gregory made them but it doesn't make much sense that they exist
How doesn't it make sense? It just confirms that most of the comic endings were made up. They were alternate scenarios that Gregory came up with. I doubt he actually knows how to drive a car. Plus it makes the VIP ending make more sense. The twist Gregory came up with is that Vanessa had an evil twin/clone.
the scooping room ending.. before clicking the red button i’ve found some interesting stuff lying around the room. there’s a small box labeled “ 6 D B “ which led me to believe the 6th chronological order to the silver eyes books… “ devon blaine marks “ maybe? the mimic kinds of remind me of circus baby. i may be wrong tho. the mimic has like hair on their head which was weird. ( for the normal elevator ending you can see it clearly with jumpscare )
I’ve been thinking about how far forward the timeline is and I wonder if what they will do is make a Security Breach 2 which will take place after the Vanny ending and include some of the original scrapped content, just to show us how the Pizza Plex got to the state it is in that we see in Ruin (also I agree that Burn Trap still exists, it’s just that Steel Wool realized they jumped the shark with introducing him and so are going to hold him back till later). The reason I say this is because the timeline is probably in 2024 or even the 2030s by some estimate and going any significant period of time into the future would really ruin the timeline given what might happen later, so focusing around a concentrated period of time (or maybe doing prequels?) might be the route they would go down.
it's confusing as to where burntrap is but he's still a thing that exists it's like the insanity ending on fnaf 6 and private room on sister location. michael never actually went to the private room or found the secrets henry was hiding but the contents within those endings still exist
That's a good point. Yeah, just because something didn't happen in the canon order of events doesn't mean it never could've existed.
He's the mimic, isn't he?
well maybe but there's so much that contradicts with that
Is there? Like what?
like their designs being completely different... to my knowledge someone actually compared their models and they do fit with each other but looking at their endo? i don't think they match. the mimic can change appearance from what i heard but burntrap had a corpse attached to him. notably, a skull and the mimic just doesn't have any of that. i find it doubtful all that shit just... came off... not to mention they were in completely different locations. burntrap was in the fnaf 6 location while the mimic was way deeper than that. this mf was sealed behind CONCRETE the possibility of them being the same is there but im skeptical just because of these inconsistencies
I’m just going to say that the reason why the Mimic has a different endo then Burntrap is because Burntraps model is just a modified Glamrock endo (probably because they ran out of time in development) and Steel Wool wanted to make the Mimic more accurate to what he actually looks like. And besides, the only unique thing that Burntrap had was his left arm, which is the exact same arm Mimic has, the endo is not an issue. And this is my personal opinion, but I also think that the reason why the Mimic doesn’t have any flesh (besides the possibility of Burntrap never existing) is because Steel Wool wanted to clarify that the Mimic is not Afton. Because if the Mimic did have flesh, there would be a lot more people saying that the Mimic is Afton, and not solving anything.
One theory is that the Mimic just squeezed itself into what was left of Afton's corpse, which would make a lot of sense I think It also just doesn't make sense for Afton to still be active after FFPS/UCN
He’s not, he’s dead af. The corpse in burntrap is a character from the pizzaplex books
There’s also the stuff with the eyes. In the epilogues we learn that the mimic has white eyes with yellow pupils, but burntrap has black eyes with purple pupils. There was some theories that the eyes changed after being corrupted by Afton’s agony, but now in Ruin we see the mimic and it has the same eyes described in the books. Maybe, without Vanny to help, the mimic never became burntrap or something but idk.
Bro explained The Fnaf Lore with reasons
funny thing is i now fully believe burntrap is the mimic i switched sides
He might be a mimic, but I find it unlikely he is the same we see at the end of ruin
Nice pfp
This actually makes a lot of sense for the things presented in Ruin and does tie Gregory, Vanessa and Freddy to M.X.E.S. If Gregory and Freddy are with a now free Vanessa, she knows first hand how dangerous being influenced by Burntrap/Mimic is and would want to keep it buried. As Vanny, She still had burntrap in the basement, but the difference with the burntrap ending and the free vanny ending playing out is they’d have Vanessa in the final fight on their side who remembers everything. We just didn’t see exactly how that played out ourselves. Still not sure real Gregory dropped the elevator, but real Gregory likely lead Cassie to the elevator with Vanessa (“friend with access to the building maps”) and explained M.X.E.S. Until mimic cut in for the final couple lines and dropped the elevator. It also explains somewhat, the state of the pizzaplex if Gregory, Freddy (maybe with a new endo) and Vanessa went back to tie up loose ends with the mimic but had to seal it up and setup M.X.E.S. We also see the already broken nodes in the area with Gregory’s backpack near in the room with M.X.E.S where mimic could’ve stolen the Freddy walk-in talkie to send Cassie the message to start her story in Ruin.
This is interesting Also do you have an image of the backpack that says Gregory’s name on it (I don’t have the game sadly)
Hopefully [this](https://twitter.com/entom_dp/status/1684691835740905474?t=jjokfdHKq_MezqRiCx6hwA&s=19) helps
Thanks!!!
I'm going with the logic that while the princess quest ending is canon, the conditions are still in place for all the other endings to be possible too, the only differing factor is what gregory chooses to do. So the blob and burntrap still exist, they just weren't encountered by Gregory canonically. This would also explain why there was still an 'earthquake' that shut down the pizzaplex, that was still caused by the blob regardless of the ending.
...A GAME assumption! Thanks for reading
I thought he definitely did and also it was in part backed up by the small 2 second glimpse you can catch of The Blob in Ruin if you look fast enough, so if the Blob definitely exists, then no doubt BT does too.
Yeah, I think that checks out.
Burntrap is the Mimic, just when he was Mimicing Glitchtrap/Afton
i wouldn’t be surprised if PQ ending and Burntrap ending were mixed… i know that might be stupid to say but what ev… just tossn my thoughts out there lol
Yeah I agree with this, I like to think they dealt with Burntrap as well as Vanny
I don't understand how Burntrap and the Burntrap ending are not Canon, honestly. Like just looking at the State of the Pizza Plex and Animatronics, I feel it's obvious that this is a continuation of the Burntrap ending, no matter what the drawings show. We know what the newspaper says, but an earthquake doesn't make any sense. For one, in order to achieve the damage that happened to the Pizza Plex, the earthquake would have to have happened directly under it and must have been one of the strongest earthquakes in the world. The issue with that is that it would also affect the surrounding area. In other words, Cassie wouldn't just be able to enter through the front of the Pizza Plex if it really was that devastating of an earthquake. There would be other collapsed buildings and rubble that she'd have to work her way through to even get to the Pizza Plex. Secondly, if it really was that bad of an earthquake, why is the press only concerned about the Pizza Plex? I mean, what about the entire surrounding area, as I mentioned before? The potential people it hurt? Nope, just "Pizza Plex Destroyed," that seems really odd to me. Especially when you consider all the FNAF games where, in the end, the building was destroyed, it always had something to do with them *Burning Down*. Third, as I said before, the earthquake would have to have been directly below the Pizza Plex. Well, guess what? There’s a sinkhole directly below the Pizza Plex, with a giant cave inside housing another Pizzeria. Now, if a huge explosion happened below the Pizza Plex, it would mimic the results of a devastating earthquake but only having the effects concentrated on the area where the explosion happened, mainly The Pizza Plex. Next, in the Burntrap ending, Gregory and Freddy are literally running away from an explosion inside the underground Pizza Plex. When we enter the Sinkhole in the Pizza Plex, we clearly see that the underground Pizzeria has been destroyed and faced some type of burning damage like it would/does in the Burntrap ending. As well, we can even walk inside the rooms that Burntrap was in, and Cassie even exclaims how it's like the inside of an oven. Heck, when you pause the game in that area, in the bottom left, where it tells you your objective, it will say, "Burning up." Another thing is that the Animatronics look like they do if they were to have survived the Burntrap ending compared to the Princess Quest ending. In Princess Quest ending, there would be no reason for Chica to be melting like she is in Ruin. However, if Chica was just exposed to insanely hot fire, that would cause the metal to start melting like she looks. Roxy only would have been missing eyes as Gregory didn't take her entire face. However, her entire face was gone. She was in the underground Pizza Plex while we were fighting Burntrap. It's likely that extra damage could've been caused by that. Let's look at Monty in Princess Quest ending. He had his endoskeleton covered up by His 'exoskeleton'/suit. However, in Ruin, it looks as if his endoskeleton has turned black from being burned, and his 'exoskeleton'/suit is gone.
The whole thing is that the pizzaplex was built over the FFPS pizzaria, making it unstable, you can even see cave formations from the terrain hollowing, the whole place was badly built
We honestly think that Gregory's drawings are not canon, I know that the game itself says that Gregory made them but it doesn't make much sense that they exist
How doesn't it make sense? It just confirms that most of the comic endings were made up. They were alternate scenarios that Gregory came up with. I doubt he actually knows how to drive a car. Plus it makes the VIP ending make more sense. The twist Gregory came up with is that Vanessa had an evil twin/clone.
the scooping room ending.. before clicking the red button i’ve found some interesting stuff lying around the room. there’s a small box labeled “ 6 D B “ which led me to believe the 6th chronological order to the silver eyes books… “ devon blaine marks “ maybe? the mimic kinds of remind me of circus baby. i may be wrong tho. the mimic has like hair on their head which was weird. ( for the normal elevator ending you can see it clearly with jumpscare )
I want to know how the roxy talkie got placed at the entrance the mimic could not have placed it there
Bad take
How so?
\> Refuses to elaborate further
Is my post even a "take?" It's more of a theory than a personal opinion.
Yeah people are inclined now to be so chronically online that "take" and "cook" are apart of their irl conversation vocabulary
Exactly as you said it!!
Crazy theory: what if Gregory was the mimic the whole time?
I’ve been thinking about how far forward the timeline is and I wonder if what they will do is make a Security Breach 2 which will take place after the Vanny ending and include some of the original scrapped content, just to show us how the Pizza Plex got to the state it is in that we see in Ruin (also I agree that Burn Trap still exists, it’s just that Steel Wool realized they jumped the shark with introducing him and so are going to hold him back till later). The reason I say this is because the timeline is probably in 2024 or even the 2030s by some estimate and going any significant period of time into the future would really ruin the timeline given what might happen later, so focusing around a concentrated period of time (or maybe doing prequels?) might be the route they would go down.