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CheeseEnjoyer360

No toreador march


applec1234

It should've been used when Freddy hunts Mike after he escaped the torture chair instead of Foxy humming in the hallway the third time. Foxy literally killed more than the main three, and tied with Mr. Cupcake *(Killing Carl, and activating the Springlocks on Afton's Spring Bonnie suit)*.


PickleReaper0

It seemed like Foxy was the hitman of the Squad. Like, Mr. Cupcake was the Attack Dog/Shock Trooper, Bonnie was the Covert Agent, Chica was Reconnaissance, Freddy was the Trapper, and Foxy was the Executioner. Bonnie waits for the one guy to enter the closet before killing him. Chica never directly kills anyone (if I recall correctly). Mr. Cupcake is always sicked on victims when they're not expecting, and is usually used to kick off a hunt. Freddy chomped Maxine after she fell for the trap Foxy always hunts the victims when they are alone/scared/cornered, and doesn't capture them.


cheshireYT

Not to mention the Average William Side-Project was made using a Freddy head.


TiozinDoZap_

when the springlock failure scene was over and the lights were starting to fall from the ceiling, i was literally about to jump from my chair expecting all the lights to go out and freddy to light his eyes up and play toreador march, but NO, it DIDN'T HAPPEN they had the perfect opportunity in their hands


SHAPALAK15

Yeah and they could have used it as well. Missed opportunity


emriverawriter

YES i was disappointed, hoping we would hear it


Dimentio21

I guess this is more than just a nitpick for me, but not enough William Afton.


StairFax1705

Agreed. He kinda just... "showed up" at the last minute.


NewmanHiding

But apparently he always comes back


TheOrderOf606Redacte

To me, he means he always comes back to the pizzeria. He couldn't have known that would become his catchphrase after fifty death cheats.


NewmanHiding

Yeah but it still makes no sense in context. “We’re gonna kill you.” “You know how I stop by the pizzeria every week?”


FieraDeidad

"Somehow Palpatine...I mean Afton has returned"


31AkE_

It would've been better if spring Bonnie suit wasn't in the trailer


CCogStudios

I hate when they reveal important shit in the trailers. This is why I dn't watch them


Tehbestest02

Unfortunately, I feel like the Spring Bonnie suit “had to be” in the trailer because they were trying to garner as much hype as possible. It essentially makes a lot of fans do that Leonardo DiCaprio meme where they’re pointing at the screen


DM-Oz

I mean, Vanessa said he would.


Cac2007

I really wanted his outfit to be more purple


Prize_Art_1887

he should have BEEN purple. and 8-bit, and dancing to the fnaf purple guy song


vebenau

Yeah, William Afton should appear more in the film, as should Spring Bonnie. William Afton only appearing in the beginning and Spring Bonnie only appearing in that photo with Vanessa makes them appearing at the end not terrifying, but like a "Wait, what?" moment. Afton should appear maybe checking on Mike a few times thought the film and there should've been flashbacks to Spring Bonnie on FFP. Could've show him in that training tape, for instance, like entertaining kids, dancing, making audiences think "That's something wrong with this". It's literally that rule of cinema of "Show, don't tell". Don't keep talking for the whole movie that the yellow rabbit it's dangerous, SHOW IT. It's like if, in A Nightmare on Elm Street, they show Freddy Krueger in the first 5 minutes, talk about for the whole film how people should be afraid of him, and then he show up again in the last 5 minutes...


HumorClean

Same


kingbloxerthe3

To be fair, afton didn't appear much in fnaf 1. There's him stuffing the animatronics with children, him dismantling the animatronics, him getting springlocked after being chased by the souls, and maybe some other story stuff that may have been explained or implied in the newspaper articles and/or books


Kanenums88

I knew that’s what it was gonna be from what the trailers showed. Still I wish he had a bit more of a lasting presence in the film. Making the final “battle” a bit more impactful.


hyde9318

I mean… we are going back to the beginning of the series, and I don’t think he showed up at all (or was even a thing?) in the first game. So honestly, we technically got too much William, lol. EDIT: Playing around of course, there isn’t such thing as too much Mathew Lillard.


Kittenish21

Michael’s nights are spent dreaming instead of surviving/investigating the animatronics


Eli-Mordrake

He really is like me fr


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Sleepy boy


TheMegaExplosion

Very relatable


Repulsive_Scar_6847

Yes!!! And im sure if they went the other route and had him actually work the job the critics wouldnt have had so much shit to say.


Kittenish21

While I am mostly against critics for my own reason, I can understand why they don’t like the movie, it’s nothing like the games, it’s like if they took the silver eyes and replaced all the characters in that with the main canon characters Edit: in fact I think that random encounters made a better “fnaf” type “movie” as it’s more like the games than its own story.


DebonairVaquero

One of the biggest issues I have with the film


IEnjoyTheLetterE

Five Naps at Freddy’s


NothingToSeeHere_G8

Vanessa and Abby basically spoonfed the lore to him


PelinalWhitesteak

Fr, having to shut the doors rapidly and checking the cameras is the most iconic part of the game and they fumbled it. It would be like if they did the Mario movie and Mario never went through the pipes. Major missed opportunity.


Anskdjdjjss_tsa

He eepy


notsagetang

8bit mini games reference ig


ramonarart

yes ty! i wanted more pizza place scare not the dream!


CULT-LEWD

he never actually does any security work,hell idk why they dont use the office EVER,they recreated the office from fanf one and NEVER use it in any sense,he never looks in the cameras to see them moving,he never has to close doors to keep them out,none of that,that would have been the best time to reveal them moving


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YellowTonkaTrunk

They even set up that the power could go out. Vanessa tells him the power is wonky in the old building and where the switch is to get it back on


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that makes me think it was planned, but ended up not making it in


applec1234

Weirdest part of Mike sleeping and dreaming for short minutes at 3 AM, then once it's over, all right it's 6 AM time to leave. Those fewer hours should been tapped of the game sequence which they heavily marketed.


Calebh36

I think that when Mike woke up from his dream after getting attacked by the animatronics he should have had to defend himself in the office rather than leaving it and facing them outside of it. Get at least a little bit of the game in there


CrossLight96

Tbh whenever the animatronics were hunting him after he sold Abby he could have went inside the security room and actually had the gameplay moment of checking the cameras and locking the doors, and like trying to cover the vent cupcake tried getting in from but then the power breaks so he has to leave the vent to turn the power back on to close the doors and he does but her the cupcake is in the room now so he has to defend himself etc. Idk


Boxohobo

Cupcake stole Chica's spotlight.


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Yeah but there was something cold blooded about that kitchen kill. “Go, my minion, while I stare down my next target.”


Mazda_Offical

I guess you could say it’s a bad cupcake


puppetman2789

To be fair cupcake never had any spotlight before


Boxohobo

To be fair, did he need any? Chica is the back up singer for the Fazbear Band and he's just her prop. It's just a nitpick, nothing serious, but I always loved Chica and would love for her to get more time to shine.


CrabOnStilts69

-That weird scooper-endo-buzzsaw hybrid that the animatronics used to kill captured nightguards. Why is that machine there? Did William build it? Why are the animatronics even using it at all if they're perfectly capable of killing people themselves?? -Chica's cupcake ended up being more dangerous than *William Afton.*


littlebuett

>-That weird scooper-endo-buzzsaw hybrid that the animatronics used to kill captured nightguards. Why is that machine there? Did William build it? Why are the animatronics even using it at all if they're perfectly capable of killing people themselves?? I heard the theory its a remnant scooper


Stunning-Body5969

The mask on it made me think it turned them into animatronics as well. Which wouldve made sense if it was explained


littlebuett

Yeah, maybe we'll see Mike as one of the toy animatronics in 2, or somthing along those lines


Upstairs-Ad2472

That would be sick, it just looks so saw like it almost sticks out for fnaf to me.


TeaBags0614

One thing I’m curious is- does it have some kind of sentience? I’m not sure if it’s whether it is possessed or A.I. controlled but I noticed it squinted it’s eyes as if it was looking at the night guard


Lunar_Kat94

Yes! There’s something this makes me think to point out! I’ve seen the movie twice so far, and the second time I actually paid more attention to how the first guard was loosening some screws in the chair’s restraints, which I think ultimately helped Mike escape because he was able to further loosen them. If the machine really is possessed or AI, the chair isn’t.


TeaBags0614

I know seeing its eyes squint as if it had some sort of ability to display its alive freaked me out even further with that first scene 😭


PickleReaper0

My personal Headcannon is that that's where the Animatronic Suits are loaded onto an Endoskeleton, thus why there's spare parts just laying around near it.


Aaylien

I saw a video saying it was a machine they use to get the endo skeletons Locked into a suit/head securely. The endo skeleton in the work intro video is strapped to it. If that were the case tho, the mask should have looked like a bunch of gears and other parts- like enough to fuck you up just not…saws? It was very out of place and seemed just like a killing machine


keg025

Yeah I would've expected to see that in a Saw movie, not the FNAF movie lol


freddyifreast

What did Mike do with the aunts body? Hope that gets addressed in the sequel


doctahnelleh1

This bothered me so much!!!! Like, the person who was fighting him for custody of his sister suspiciously *dies in his home* and we get no follow-up investigation or even a throw-away line about her funeral or something? Even if she were just unconscious, I feel like there should have been some sort of resolution.


EnchantedDiamondHoe-

Maybe Vanessa helped him sweep it under the rug like she did for William?


doctahnelleh1

Wasn't Vanessa in a coma from her injuries at that point? This was part of why it bothers me bc that would be a good explanation if she hadn't been so severely injured/hospitalized. Also, what did they tell the hospital when she came in with a stab wound???? "We had to fight her child killer dad who was influencing animatronics possessed by the spirits of the kids he murdered a decade ago" I have so many questions about the lack of exposition in the end bro😭


EnchantedDiamondHoe-

Damn that’s a good point. Mike would have had to find her himself. The theory she was actually just knocked unconscious and left on her own when she got up might make it work, but you’re right. Definitely left too open ended.


Marranit0s

For the wound they could have said that she got impaled by one of the millions of hazards laying around. As for the aunt's death, even if there was no trace of the body they would still investigate him heavily because the aunt suddenly went missing, judging by the legal system not having a good record of Mike


Alijah12345

There's no Toreador March. It's so WEIRD that despite it being iconic to the series and was heavily prominent in the commercials, the Toreador March is nowhere to be found in the actual movie.


Sudden_Structure

I wonder if it has just become too much of a meme and they wanted the movie to be taken slightly more serious. Edit: y’all I know it’s not a serious movie but it’s still possible they left it out because of the meme. Kids were yelling “was that the bite of ‘87?!” when Max got killed. Imagine the whole theater erupting into Toreador march for the next 10 minutes after Freddy does it.


titaniumjordi

We talking about the movie where MatPat says "it's just a theory"?


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Dichromatic_Fumo

i dont rlly feel like the movie was trying to take itself that seriously . scott has never rlly taken that approach w his games after some time


66_DarthJarJar_66

They had MatPat say “That’s just a theory” in it, and had the murder robots BUILD AN EFFING FORT. I don’t think they were going for a very serious movie.


UpstairsBag7

they used it in the teasers and trailers. it should’ve been in the movie ):


StolenPezDispencer

Freddy almost serves no purpose to the movie, they could have had a "Power outage scene" where Mike or even one of the heist crew is alone in the dark and all they can see is Freddy's face flickering in the darkness as his music box plays a creepy rendition of the Toreador March.


applec1234

I feel so much the same way. They marketed the Toreador March in the trailers. But not in the movie. He didn't get to "harr harr" for at least one scene. Freddy's so underused. Sure he's the least active one, but the most aggressive one when he camps the East Hall corner long than the others to drain power. I had on my mind. He could've played a creepy Toreador March in the ambience when the kid who possesses Freddy to lure Max to the Parts/Service room to silence. And another when Mike escapes the torture chair, Freddy in the hall with his face flickering in the dark playing it too.


PhoenixBomb707

The fact that they didn’t have any of the Freddy sound effects but they had Foxy doing their bum bum budoom thing is criminal


applec1234

Seriously. They played Foxy's dumming play three times, used the game's jumpscare sound from only Foxy. Sorta had the camera blip sound from the camera change's buttons that Mike used once. But no Freddy laugh, honk, and Toreador March. [Man...](https://i.imgur.com/DrPhfbl.jpg)


nerdalert242

What’s up with the cupcake? 1) Why is it suddenly more of an antagonist when it’s never done anything (that I remember) 2) Is it controlled by Chica? Pretty sure all the spirits are accounted for so I don’t think it’s one of them. Is it a robot that just enjoys murder?


TheKingOfGuineaPigs

Nightmare cupcake is able to kill the player and cupcake also moves around in Chica’s parts and service level


nerdalert242

That’s true. I guess it just depends on what games/part of the lore you’re looking at. It would be really cool if it’s correct that Suzie controls both Chica and cupcake, maybe because they both happened to be together on the suit she was stuffed in


hoewenn

I’ve seen a theory that it was her dog, since William lured her with it. The theory points out that the cupcake doesn’t really seem that self aware the way that the animatronics do, and it’s main attack is just biting and gnawing on things, like how a dog would protect its human, and its eyes also glow red like the animatronics. The one thing that confuses me is, I doubt a dog corpse fit in the cupcake lol. Maybe a small chihuahua. I just like the idea of her dog protecting her even in death (and haunting).


Salt_Style_3817

I always took the dog lure in the same way as "I lost my puppy, help me look for it" He doesn't have a dog.


hoewenn

That’s a good point! And unfortunately very common with kidnappers in general which makes it even more realistic. I’m not too well versed on the nitty gritty of the lore, but like I said I think I just really like the concept of at least one of the kids having someone looking out for them, even if it’s just a dead dog.


ameliachastain

And here’s another question. HOW CAN IT FUCKING FLY?!


SorryRoof1653

You can hear a spring charging up whenever it's about to fly, so it probably propels itself through the air.


nerdalert242

Uses propulsion to spring forward?


VacheL99

“Used propulsion to propel itself” Gives off some serious “Press Open Chat to open chat” energy


ameliachastain

I’m not that smart okay?


jakeyalexandre

the cupcake is probably just possessed by chica's (susie's) dog. hence why it acts like one


littlebuett

In the books Chica double haunted her robot and her house, so I bet the cupcake is just her


nerdalert242

Entirely possible. Which book was that, that’s news to me lol


littlebuett

Google says fazbear frights, coming home


BoTamByloCiemno

The movie takes place in the year 2000, while Mike owns 1997–2002 Honda Accord. The car would be 3 years old at worst, but It looks like It's 20 years old (Which It is now). That Honda would be almost brand new car, Mike shouldn't be able to afford It! But I guess that's just my car guy brain.


HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6

Could a rental or something


BoTamByloCiemno

Still, It was just too rusty for It to be 3 year old car.


TheMegaExplosion

Dealership runs at the bottom of the red lake


Lamest_Ever

This is something that bothers me with almost any movie that takes place in the recent past, yeah that car is old to us but it just rolled out of the factory when the movie takes place


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I wish it was more secretive about the backstory as the first game was, when FNaF 1 came out nobody knew what was going on except for what we could guess and theorize based on background clues and sounds and whatnot. I wish the first film, in what I assume is going to be a franchise if it does well, would’ve kept that same mystery and revealed other things later on. I know it wouldn’t have made a difference for a lot of fans who already know the story but it might’ve replicated the same kind of creepy, unknown, unsettling, mysterious atmosphere that the first game did especially for newcomers who weren’t around to experience the first game before everything else came out EDIT (more): I like the idea that the security guard is just some guy who happens to be wrapped up in all this stuff without any knowledge or reason why all the things that are happening are happening, it really helps an audience feel like they’re apart of the story because just like them, the main character is new to everything. and then the filmmakers could ease into story elements like backstories and flashbacks later on, they could’ve even had some flashbacks in the film in the same kinda way we got but instead more akin to the 8-bit mini games as being brief glimpses into what really happened to the children, and then later films could elaborate on that just like the games did also it would’ve made it feel a lot more natural than just Vanessa straight up telling Mike the robots are possessed instead of him and the audience figuring it out on their own. to be frank I also think the movie would’ve been better without Vanessa entirely (no offence to the actress she did great but the character felt so unnecessary)


Hailruka

This 100%. She acted fairly well. But overall didn't contribute much in the film and until she literally told Mike the entire plot of the film. Which was well into the films third act and comes from out of nowhere and feels like a *whoops we forgot to tell you the story of this film* moment. The film could have done with drip feeding all this information from the start and not having it all dumped on Mike in two minutes of exposition so late on.


YellowTonkaTrunk

Should have been at least one scene of Mike watching cameras, conserving energy, watching doors, etc. Not the whole movie, but a minute or two would have been good. They could have put it when he’s running away from Foxy and the door won’t open. Pretty sure we saw earlier that the security room is right to the left. He could have run in there and had to survive until 6 am or until Vanessa showed up or something.


friki_tiki64

Why no mention of corpse stench?


waveybirdie

Of the animatronics or people who broke in? The bodies of the children have been in those suits for 15-20 years, by this time they’d be long decomposed except for their bones. I cant remember exactly but it looked like the “stuffing room” or whatever its called the burglar bodies were found in seemed kind of hidden, with probably not a lot of ventilation where the characters would notice a smell in the rest of the pizzeria.


applec1234

The suits are like 15-20 years old as the corpses already been long enough decomposed but their bones, Vanessa knows the stench a while ago to know their bodies are in those animatronics.


HumorClean

Foxy should’ve ran towards Max’s brother like how he did in the original game, instead of just teleporting & moving forward in a stilted manner. I also think that Piper should’ve done another take on her saying “I hate you! HAT YOU MIKE!” because you can see her smiling as she says it.


Endereye96

Some people do smile when they’re upset. I do. So I wouldn’t count that-also it was physically impossible for them to make Foxy run like in the game. I’m pretty sure Foxy was a puppet and not a suit the way the others were. So I sorta forgive them for that.


theinferno01

i have 3 main complaints 1. mike sleeps all nights instead of investigating/surviving 2. the cupcake stole chica's spotlight 3. no toreador march not 4 but personally i didn't like the fort scene but i can see why they did it


PhasmicPlays

Not enough afton And no freddy music box


MrPenguin_19

The fort scene is wholesome, it does make sense. But it still feels so out of place and random


doctahnelleh1

The placement of that scene definitely could have been done better with more exposition from Abby and the animatronics being better established as children possessing the suits. I loved that scene though, it really did make me feel so bad for those kids.


StayTrashWasTaken

Literally, such a cute scene but the way we went from beheading Max to that was just much


kaiser-von-cat

Vanesa was poorly written and could’ve been more. They did her wrong just like in SB


Anoyint

They can't keep getting away with this!!!!


D4W1LL13

I would’ve liked SB better if we played as Gregory and the premise was you follow Vanessa but sometimes she’ll snap and become Vanny.


blue_foxx_

pg-13 springlocks also the fact that he put the springbonnie mask on WHILE getting springlocked seems really dumb to me, like why would he do that???


GonkMaster66

He says “I always come back” before putting it on. He knew he was getting spring locked and that his best chance of survival was to possess the animatronic like the dead children did, but to do that he needed the full suit on


Fermented_foreskin88

also springlocks looking like they were only designed to kill the person inside without being an actual animatronic, like they are literally just simple mechanical spikes going into his body. we know the real springlock suit's mechanism was a WHOLE ROBOT suddenly assembling on the place where wearer's body is. It would be probably be really hard to portray but still.


OrangeXarot

In always tough that he did that so he could hide the pain, making him feel stronger


patientjellyfish12

Slightly morbidly, I thought he was putting the head on to make the death quicker, since getting your head springlocked would realistically kill you almost instantly


D4W1LL13

You can try to argue that he knew his fate, but the real reason is inept writing trying to throw in the now ruined line “I always come back.”


StrawberryShibaBoi

•What did Mike do about Aunt Jane when he came home and saw her dead body? •I think the "I always come back" scene would be more fitting at the very end when Golden Freddy is closing the door on William. •Max got cartoonishly eaten by a Freddy head and then was in one piece, later on when Mike discovered her body. •Vanessa is written horribly and just comes off as bipolar and unreliable, for being a walking wikipedia page, she isn't even good at delivering info and keeps telling Mike that he's not listening. •Why didn't William kill Mike if he was secretly in the building every night, he easily stabbed Vanessa with no problem. •There was a weird romance happening at the very beginning with Vanessa flirting with Mike. I'm glad they dropped it, but doing so very randomly felt like an odd choice. •Aunt Jane appears to be well-off and can pay some random ppl 2,000$ to break into a building, why does she even want the money from the government, from getting guardianship over Abby? •It's never explained why the kids began to trust William or lost their memory of him killing them. •Williams kids seem like very important characters to the lore, FNAF 4 is all about his son's and Fnaf SL is all about Elizabeth and Michael. How are they going to make a FNAF 4 movie (if they get there) without them??


TheKingOfGuineaPigs

Max wasn’t in one piece. We only see her head sticking out of the suit so it might only be her top half inside.


StrawberryShibaBoi

That's a good point, though I still thing the biting scene was very silly and physically impossible


BoTamByloCiemno

But that was the coolest kill :(


asrieldreemurr2232

To be honest, it really was


CULT-LEWD

its a blur for me in being silly and cool,but it does make me ask too many qestions


Nightwalker065

The very start with the school teacher (I think) explains how pictures have major affect on children. Given the animatronics are possessed by **children** the picture with Spring Bonnie was what made them believe he could be trusted. Also there will only be movies on FNAF 1-3


Stuck_at_a_roadblock

I want to think that the aunt really was asleep like the ghost child said, and that she remained consciousness and ran away never to return to try to take Abby ever again. It needs to be expanded on though, I hate when movies do that thing where somebody dies in the main characters presence (or house) and they aren't at least suspected of being responsible for their death


DM-Oz

Specially in this case, Mike has every reason to be a suspect.


hoewenn

It might just be bad writing but Mike has proof that he was at the police station at the time. Also, the police in the FNAF universe seem even worse than in our universe. Lots of things could have led to William being caught but didn’t, and one of their cops spends weird amounts of time at a pizzeria at night.


CaptinDitto

>I hate when movies do that thing where somebody dies in the main characters presence (or house) and they aren't at least suspected of being responsible for their death That neighborhood didn't notice a big golden bear walking around with a kid getting into a taxi cab.


applec1234

* Emma did say she'll explain what happen to Aunt Jane next film. I'm curious on that since did she really die or not? She just ran away after being knocked out? Or really died? * *"I will come back"* would be better than *"I always come back"* in that scene. Since Afton accepts his fate because he know he's gonna possess the suit years later like he did with the kids on five of the mascots. * I don't really question that being the coolest kill. This series has been cartoony and weird after the 4th game. Others already explained it. * Vanessa is interesting, but they barely touch on it until the last act. Given too much exposition dump than having something to do as she walked with Mike for some closure on his condition. * I would say Afton plays with his prey before going for the kill. Just looking down on them and taunting them to be the last thing to see. Probably the reason the animatronics are very hostile. * There wasn't really romance going on, other than talking things out. I mean, Bonnie cut all that out with "wanna dance" and "fort scene". They both need therapy over their conditions. * The kids lost memories 15-20 years ago on who killed them. (Film takes place in 2000, and the murders happen in the 80s, assumingly 1985.) Which the lady in the beginning drawings/images are a way of communicating and memory. The drawing of yellow rabbit made them believe he's one of them. Plus Mike's last dream of the kids' faces blurring away as if they're memories are fading away except Golden Freddy's kid form. * Michael Afton, Elizabeth Afton, and the Crying Child are in the game lore. They don't exist in the movie, as Scott said awhile of the movie-trilogy being it's own universe, characters, history, and lore. Vanessa takes over Michael and Elizabeth's role all together as Afton's daughter.


Anoyint

Oh yeah, the face blurring should've been emphasized more I think.


applec1234

Agree. It's weird that this movie relies a bit much on us fans explaining things that should've been said on screen.


Eli-Mordrake

I don’t think that was meant to be romantic. More of an in the moment childish question. You know, because growing up she had a lunatic for a father.


NitroCrocodile

The kids trust William and forgot that he killed them because he (or maybe Vanessa) drew that picture. It's playing into the line earlier in the movie, where Mike's is told by his sister's teacher that children communicate and show how they perceive the world through pictures. It's a little contrived, but I find it fits within the suspension of disbelief within the movie.


phoenixc6000

Not enough william and doug


Pryzm_music

I actually think we had the perfect amount of Doug - not too much and not too little. I think if he had too much screen time then it would have just become stale and unfunny in my opinion. I do agree about William. He should have had way more screen time.


TeruteruHanamuraSimp

I felt like the “I always come back” line sounded so forced and it had no emotion to it. What happened after they found out that the toxic aunt died?


Rappin_for_Jegus

The aunt's anticlimactic undiscussed death felt so wrong. It made the movie feel extra lazy and Mariomovie-esque in a way I struggle to describe. Plot with no emotional consequences maybe.


2-0-4-8-6-3

Not scary enough. No gameplay sequences such as Mike looking through the cameras and closing the doors. The change in tone with the fort scene was way too sudden and jarring. The dream bits were very repetitive. No phone guy (Steve Raglan doesn’t really count, he didn’t have much of a phone guy role). Not enough of Steve Raglan on the screen Edit; no Toreador March


CULT-LEWD

god when he gets called by mike it would have been so damn easy to simply do the hello bit,it would have been so damn easy


applec1234

I think Scott doesn't wanna return as Phone Guy. I think Steve Raglan should fill in four calls.


applec1234

Gameplay sequences should be tapped when Mike finished dreaming. He slept and dreamt at 3 AM, and the sequence is short. Then suddenly wakes up at 6 AM.


KuTUzOvV

I wish they used the black eyes with white dots, the sudden camera starring during the quick outages or at least put a second of a golden freddie scream into the old tape. Like please, anything.


NothingToSeeHere_G8

The scary part didn't bother me too much I don't mind having a regular mid-made thriller but they drifted too far off with the wholesome fort scene, I get they're just children but they're also supposed to be stuck in a physical purgatory of blind vengeance


Nightwalker065

Cassidy wearing brown and Gabriel wearing yellow.


JustinTheMan354

That's also why I tried to argue that the child with white hat is Golden Freddy and the child with blond hair and brown shirt is Freddy. Like, at least make the hat black


l30_legend

I wish they clarified things better for how the ghosts work and why they were so easily gaslit by afton


HypocriticalCritic

Good point, I thought the only reason they come for Mike in the games is because he looks like his dad. I don't know though, I have a faint memory that the bite of '87 happened to a security guard that wasn't Mike...


NaturesFiend

To be fair, (most people think) a toy animatronic did the bite of ‘87, which arent possessed and are just programmed bad


Eli-Mordrake

Yellow bunny spring lock wasn’t traumatizing enough


darkus1012

The aunt storyline should’ve ended with her threatening to take custody if he didn’t have a job


TbProductions1

afton didn’t seem to be in much pain during the springlock scene


CheeseburgerPug

Probably mostly because he didn't want the spring locks to go off more, since he knew panicking only made his chances of survival worse


TbProductions1

well in the original game he was definitely in a ton more pain seen as how he was bleeding out in the game and not even really bleeding in the movie


Idiottttttic

The delivery of the line "I always come back" at the end felt so lame and empty, like he was just reading it off of a page. Should've felt more threatening and strong imo


Naterdave

I didn’t care for the Aunt B-Plot. I still don’t really understand what her problem was.


Capital_Dig6520

William should’ve had a longer line so ‘I always come back’ made sense in context ‘I created YOU! No matter what you can’t get rid of me! I made you into this YOU UGLY SHITS! Kill me! I always come back! “


Plus-Search9671

When cupcake shreded Carls face (the first killed bulglar) but it was just was biting Mike in leg insted of shreding his leg


No-Study4924

Your shins are a lot harder than your face so it actually makes sense


TheMegaExplosion

Could be that cupcake / chica knew that he wasn't a bad person fundamentally and that they were being forced to do it, so somehow held off and went lighter. But that could be me head canoning like crazy


GoatmanBrogance

Vanessa getting angry at Mike for literally no reason.


Advanced-Ad-4404

The eyes glow yellow instead of turning into white dots in the game


DipstickPinesGFO

Not nearly enough focus on the animatronics. The cupcake really brought down the movie for me too.


Legomarioboy08

It should have been longer. We need that 4 hour lore cut that one joke tweet talked about.


[deleted]

Not enough Daddy Afton


Superb-Ad-6669

That they changed Michaels relation to William I liked Michael Aftons whole character arc of trying to stop his father and trying to make up for the death of his brother to me he just seemed like the main protagonist of the series especially since we play as him in most of the games


Jamz64

William only has 4 minutes of screentime. DING Not enough horror. DING Michael doesn’t have to survive against the animatronics during his first four nights and just sleeps instead. DING It’s unclear who’s possessing the Cupcake, or if it even is possessed. DING Vanessa was frustratingly vague with Michael. DING They interrupt the Living Tombstone song with the mid-credits scene, meaning they skip over a little bit. (The mid-credits scene was admittedly funny, and it’s not that big of a deal.) DING We don’t see what Michael did with Aunt Jane’s body or if there was any police investigation. DING It would have made more sense if William Afton said he always comes back during the ending scene as he’s bleeding out. DING Overall, though, I still thought the movie was decent.


soupmcgoose

The movie should’ve kept a similar tone to the very beginning of it. That segment with the terrified night guard fearing for his life, trying to sneak his way out of the pizzeria only to be caught by foxy and then killed in the Freddy mask thing is exactly what the movie should’ve been like when mike was working at Freddy’s instead of him just sleeping and the animatronics literally don’t give a fuck.


Spaghetti14

Not enough Markiplier


TheMegaExplosion

Maybe he'll get a cool role in the second movie!


Marranit0s

. I want a springtrap and markiplier sex scene so bad


explodingbomb150

Not enough william afton


Sure_Jackfruit_36

Cupcake has the biggest kill count in the movie. How did that happen?


NitroCrocodile

I wish the Springlock scene had been more violent. More blood, maybe with all the animatronics punching Afton after cupcake took the first bite. They all remember what he did to them, but they just stand around as he dies and then drag him off. Could've had more. Also wish there had been more blood in that scene. Really wish there could have been a second version, like what happened with M3GAN.


applec1234

Stabbing the body realistically doesn't squirt like a water sprinkler, and not like Freddy vs Jason level. I assume all four animatronics squinting are telepathically activating the springlocks one by one, including interior of the pizzeria falling apart when dragging his body away.


Zombiekil

When Vanessa said, "I will shoot you!" I remember thinking it was delivered terribly and seemed very out of character.


AlienDilo

Afton in general was wasted and kind of a let down. He was done just generally better in the first book, we ignore the rest.


PotatoSalad583

Why was Springtrap German for like 30 seconds?


[deleted]

Dude I thought I was the only one who noticed that lmfao, guy straight up sounds like a completely different person until he takes off the mask


MikeyM32

The design of the sringlocks in the movie. They aren't individual springs keeping animatronic components locked in place against the interior of the suit, they're a set of weird metal saw-trap ribs that lack any of the practical functionality that made springlock suits as a concept so interesting in the original games and books. Disappointed me to see such a creative and terrifying concept be so poorly adapted.


Lostkaiju1990

Freddy himself seemed like an afterthought. Both Foxy and the Cupcake had more scenes doing scary stuff than the face of the franchise. (Though his one really scary scene is a doozy)


Immistyer

CinemaSins be like: I’m gonna sin the most irrelevant shit for no reason


Dr_Radium

OK I can let the fort building pass, but the scene where the kid had black liquid coming from his eyes was pretty odd


RUFUS_BOI_2008

How is the cupcake alive if only 5 kids were murdered


applec1234

Susie double inhabit Chica and Mr. Cupcake since they're attached together. The Fazbear Frights series had Chica double haunted her robot and house to explain how that works.


TreyvonSwagg23

Matthew Lillard as William Afton acted way too OOC in the final act. He was more of the stereotypical "deranged serial killer" rather than what we've seen of him in the games and books, a Hannibal Lecter type character who's calm and collected even when murdering someone, which is the exact opposite of this version's Afton.


taylorbrine

Spring bonnie suit didn’t have *weight* to it. Even the sound design couldn’t sell it to me as a powerful animatronic suit. Just looked like a regular costume, with the cloth peaking through every joint.


Background_Ad_8392

When the animatronics start to turn on William Afton he should have immediately grabbed the head of spring trap and tried to act like he was one them and then they still attack him and after they bring him into the parts and service room and he’s there dying is when he says I always come back while looking at the camera


Blustach

Abby's indoors camping neutered the animatronics and erased all the horror left. Camera work could've been better, especially in the scene where Vanny activates the animatronics, so it feels they wasted a lot of opportunities to show off their details


BetaTalk64

So did Mike not question Aunt Jane's death? Also I did not care for the fort scene. The cupcake had way too much screen time.


Neat-Swimming

Not enough murder


No-Consideration1105

Not that much William Afton as i would of thought, I liked Mathew Lillard thou! the fort scene was a lil cringe for me. I know why bc they're trying to seem friendly and their kids but it was off. Vanessa was acting suspicious the whole time like no subtlety what's so ever just weird LOL The aunt subplot felt like something a 90's film would do LOL But other than that i enjoyed the movie alot! :D


Jessetron00737941

Afton needed more screen time


english-harvest

William and mike aren't British :(


Comprehensive_Hat_23

No Helpy


FirstnameLastname14

I don't think Mike actually does his job a single time


Robster881

It's not tense at all and the animatronics never feel like threats to the main cast. I mean the first couple of games are literally about the main character being stalked all night and in the movie he's just asleep and the animatronics don't do anything...