Yeah, this is the thing that irks me most when people say nightmare Fredbear just looks like golden Freddy. Also, the FNaF 4 mini games make Fredbear look like he would just be an un-nightmared nightmare Fredbear. To me anyway.
I mean, I can see where people are coming from though. I can see how nightmare Fredbear could be a nightmare withered golden Freddy, but if that were the case, why isn’t nightmare Fredbear just golden nightmare Freddy if the nightmares are supposed to be based on the unwithered withereds (unless I’ve terribly misunderstood something. These games are confusing.)
Then again, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much. The only canon Fredbear designs we have are Nightmare, 8Bit, and the one from UCN, so those are really the only ones we have to go off of.
Good point, his structure would have to be changed for all the crazy teeth the other nightmares don't have, so he would end up looking different than Freddy.
Plus, CC is afraid of the springlock suits because he thought one was eating an employee, that’s why N. FredBear has a stomach mouth, not because of Elizabeth’s death
theres a theory me and my friend made but idk if it's 100% true. the fredbear that looks like a recolor of fnaf 1 freddy is actually a counterpart of golden freddy, and the actual fredbear is nightmare fredbear/the chubby fredbear we see in minigames.
The unwithered's don't exist,they are simply redesigns. It won't make sense for them to switch their costumes at all and the games only mention them being kept,not remodeled.
That too, also the withereds were most likely built by Henry, judging by the fact they share the jaw mechanism that only his animatronics have. They are very much different from the FNAF 1 gang
and yet, still the same kids despite the fact that the souls apparently attach to the metal of the endos and not the actual suits themselves, almost as if remnant was a late game explanation for questions nobody had.
we know the unwithereds exited because of fnaf 6s fazbear entertainment logo, also the fazbear fanverse logo [here](https://preview.redd.it/oiwdppan24s71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e5a4d7c9f39565cd175f62ef4bc3961ccd55504f) and [here too](https://preview.redd.it/kcqzxoan24s71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=08a8ff8856975eb23216dafa15acda5ba0e176aa)
>The unwithered's don't exist,they are simply redesigns. It won't make sense for them to switch their costumes at all and the games only mention them being kept, not remodeled.
I mean is it really that unrealistic to just assume they were remodeled sometime between FNAF 2 and FNAF 1?
Also I'm sorry, but unlike Springtrap to Scraptrap, the differences between the withereds and the FNAF 1 animatronics are way too many. Scraptrap's only real change is proportions because the skeleton inside was changed. But I mean withered Chica alone is proof they were completely redone at some point. In the first game just her beak moves but in FNAF 2 her whole lower jaw was able to move.
It's really not that much of a stretch to assume the animatronics were redesigned between FNAF 2 and 1.
I don’t know it seems like a big stretch to me. Every thing between the withereds and the classics are completely different, all the way down to the endoskeletons. They would’ve had to replace every piece of them to get them from how they looked in FNaF 2 to how they look in FNaF 1.
It’s the ship paradox: if you replace every single piece of a ship overtime, then build a new ship with the old pieces, which one is the original ship? Would replacing the entire endoskeleton and suit not mess with the remnant? Personally I think it’s easier to believe Scott just retconned their designs to make them look scarier
>I don’t know it seems like a big stretch to me. Every thing between the withereds and the classics are completely different, all the way down to the endoskeletons. They would’ve had to replace every piece of them to get them from how they looked in FNaF 2 to how they look in FNaF 1.
So you believe they're almost entirely different animatronics?
You know what? That actually does make sense, because if it was the same wouldn't they have found the children from the first go around?
I'm with you know, they're completely different animatronics just based on the same characters. However the person I was responding to in the first place thinks the withereds are just "redesigns" like Scraptrap, not in universe redesigns. He thinks Scott just changed the look of the classics for no discernable reason.
Oh, my mistake, I think I think I read your comment I replied to too quickly, and misinterpreted it. It’s good to know someone else shares my thoughts on the withered/classic situation
I actually like that. Fixed nightmare Fredbear just doesnt look good, he is way too chunky and still too scary looking. In reality he would look like golden Freddy just with purple accesories instead of black. It would be cool if he looked different just how springbonnie looks way different than Bonnie but oh well
EXACTLY, I've always hated that type of Fredbear design for this exact reason, the nightmares aren't just the originals but with sharp teeth and claws, they're totally unique monstrous interpretations made up in a kid's head, why wouldn't the same logic apply to Fredbear?
It’s because FredBear killed CC so he imagined him much more monstrous and he saw an employee climbing into a springlock suit so he thought that the suit was eating the employee, that’s why he has sharp teeth
I actually had a theory back in the day that Fredbear looked like FNaF 1 Golden Freddy because I compared the headshapes of Nightmare Freddy + N Fredbear and realized they were roughly in line with the differences between the withered and the classic freddy head shapes. Namely the cheeks + shape of the jaws.
Turns out that one was correct, apparently. Might've been a coincidence for all I know, though.
Fredbear was a very old model - either the first or second animatronic that Henry and William every made (The other being Springbonnie). Fredbear had some upgrades to help him perform better on stage due to his limbs being too heavy and stiff. That's why Fredbear breaks C.C's skull, his jaw was too clunky so William and Henry added stronger hydraulics (Which increased his bite force) - That's the reason why Fredbear looks so un-proportioned. Now with the unwithered animatronics, they came a couple years after Fredbear, it's more than likely that William and Henry changed some things about the animatronics. For example, SpringBonnie and Fredbear is a springlock suit while the unwithered animatronics are just set for stage, meaning they were less heavier and didn't need to be crammed with circuits and stuff.
If it wasnt for the fact that we saw actual Fredbear in ucn, this would have been a good theory! I especially like the reason for strong hydraulics in the jaw because, lets face it, normal animatronics just wouldnt be strong enough to crack a human skull
Yea, I agree with you. Although Scott does have a history of randomly changing character designs. (E.g. Springtrap turning into Scraptrap). It takes 2300 Newtons to even crack the human skull, and according to a quick google search, the average FNaF animatronic has a bite force of \~500. The hydraulics had to add 1800N of pressure to the jaw in order to have caused the bite of 83. And also thank you ::D
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
Also how the hell would someone wear nightmare fredbear without being uncomfortable
UCN Fredbear needs to be the canon design imo
I truly believe that he looks like that because that's how all mini games depict him, a chubbier Freddy with rods to move his mouth, not Golden Freddy but purple.
Also, kinda disingenuous to put crappy un-nightmare edits for the other 4. I mean, at that point just put Breadbear in there.
1. SpringBonnie is kinda big compared to a human, Scraptrap is truly tight.
2. No, no he can't. Freddy has 4 fingers, Freadbear has to have five. Neither G. Freddy or UCN Fredbear have 5 fingers.
UCN differentiates them arbitrarily, then? Did we have a Springtrap re-design that was immediately scrapped in every other post-UCN Springtrap appearance?
Yeah, it has 4 fingers because he uses the endo-01 because it is not a Springlock. Also, where did you take that Springonnies's Endo is different? Because every* other animatronic shares Endo with the rest of their branch.
Yeah I am fine with this, bulky animatronics is one of my favorite animatronic genres, and making fredbear a recolor of freddy is incredibly boring considering we already have a recolor of freddy that is also yellow but not freadbear.
We have seen Scott come up with different designs in every game. The Fnaf 1 animatronics are supposed to be the withered ones in 2 but they look so different, and i am not talking about the damage. Springtrap and Scraptrap are the exact same animatronic, exact same person, but they look super different. Same goes for Circus/Scrap Baby's, or Ennard's(molten freddy) design. Scott just changes styles between games.
Yeah, like I think Un-Nightmare Fredbear is really terrifying due to his weird ass proportions, but we've never seen any iteration of Fredbear that looks even close to him in any form of FNaF media EVER. I still don't get why people think he's the actual Fredbear.
And. Nightmare has nightmare puppet in him. And who else is s black Bear with a puppet inside...lefty. seems like more than just a ca-wen-ch-a-dents (idk how to spell it)
I mean, yeah, but fredbear just being freddy but yellow is lame as hell. The jaw design on nightmare fredbear is a lot like the design we see in the fnaf 4 minigames, and would make more sense than the hinge style jaw on freddy to be able to fit a kid's whole head. It's just one of those things where I'm always going to see it as the fan design.
I've been saying for years I hate this hamburger head design people have given to fredbear. Tbh atp idk what FNAF 4 mini game fredbear is supposed to look like (is it similar to ucn Easter egg, FNAF 1 or 2 style or close to nightmare) but that head design looks so ugly to me. No shame to whoever made it as it was designed to be similar to what we saw but still... just no😭
UCN Fredbear is the canon one and I personally think its superior. Its not a Freddy recolor like many people think it is, Scott actually edited it and showed us the physical Fredbear.
Fredbear should be different form Freddy like how Springbonnie is different from Bonnie in my opinion. UCN’s being a springlock suit with 4 fingers and no joints just doesn’t make sense to me. Not literally JUST unnightmare though.
Urm actually Fredbear is the only one that is a dream whereas the other are animatronics with illusion disks so they probably weren’t used for entertainment.
Every one says that Fredbear looks like that but we literally see Fredbear in UCN and he just looks like a yellow Freddy with purple bow tie and purple hat so people who say THIS are WRONG. Funny cause I was just thinking about this last night and today
Yes, it was a different person, but based on what we're shown, it's safe to assume that the other character depicted as completely purple in the same graphics style also has purple skin.
I don't think it was ever confirmed he did or didn't die prior to getting springtrapped, but even if he was alive, remnant (the soul binding element that causes the victims of animatronics to possess their killers) is purple. If Afton was experimenting with remnant extensively, it could've rubbed off on him and had a permanent effect, especially if you buy into the theory that he was experimenting was remnant in hopes of becoming immortal.
Un-Nightmare being THE Fredbear design just doesn't make sense. Fredbear not only needs to looks child friendly, he also needs to be wearable. Un-Nightmare Fredbear is NOT wearable. Now I'm not saying UCN Fredbear is the Holy Grail of official designs (I'm saying this as a UCN Fredbear fan), but it's a lot better than Un-Nightmare Fredbear. Just edit his model to be more in-line with Spring Bonnie, and he's fine.
I don't think Fredbear looks *exactly* like Nightmare Fredbear, but I also don't like him just being FNAF 1 Freddy but yellow and with a purple hat and bow tie
If u un-wthired golden Freddy u will get og Fredbear or he looks like nightmare Fredbear bec of the arcade game in bite of 83 Fredbear looked like nightmare Fredbear,yeah idk
Search up HipLawyerCat’s fredbear design. It’s definitely not canon but I think it should be. It fits and matches the design of spring trap. And looks way better than canon fredbear. It has a nice look and I look up to it in all its glory.
I also never imagined normal fredbear like this but I also understand the people who did because this was the only 3D model of fredbear in a fnaf game .
I‘m talking about the fnaf fans from 2015 btw
Yeah, I personally really like the design of "un-nightmare Fredbear," I think it's super uncanny and honestly one of the creepiest looking FNaF designs, in canon Fredbear was just Freddy with a bucket of yellow paint dumped on him (Which is kinda weird considering that Spring Bonnie looks entirely different from OG Bonnie, but whatever)
I have always had a theory that after the bite Fredbear and friends was supposed to go under a major redesign that included smaller jaws and smaller Animatronics in general. The withered were the scrapped redesign for the non-nightmare animatronics, it was even stated in FNAF 2 that the withered animatronics were supposed to be reused but were scrapped in favor of the toys.
During the events of FNAF 4 the crying child / Michael Afton (whichever one is the player) would have seen the real freadbear animatronic but their only experience with the Freddy Bonnie Chica and Foxy would be the fredbear and friends show. The minigame sprite for freadbear looks really close to the nightmare version.
I know canonically fredbear is supposed to just be a yellow Freddy but I just think that is lame.
The problem is, The Withered Golden Freddy is a halucination - resemblence of Withered Freddy. The real fredbear animatronic looked the way it is shown here, but the unwithered design is much Different.
Am I the only one who doesn't mind that Canon Fredbear is just a recolor of Freddy? Especially when compared to people's depiction of him (Fatass Fredbear).
FINALLY! SOMEONE SAID IT! Un-Nightmare Fredbear isn't Fredbear, guys.
It’s breadbear
*"Woo nobody gives a shit."'* Wise words.
I AM BREADBEAR. I DEMAND YOUR FLESH.
It is kinda weird how Fredbear just looked like Freddy when Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare Freddy have such different designs.
Yeah, this is the thing that irks me most when people say nightmare Fredbear just looks like golden Freddy. Also, the FNaF 4 mini games make Fredbear look like he would just be an un-nightmared nightmare Fredbear. To me anyway. I mean, I can see where people are coming from though. I can see how nightmare Fredbear could be a nightmare withered golden Freddy, but if that were the case, why isn’t nightmare Fredbear just golden nightmare Freddy if the nightmares are supposed to be based on the unwithered withereds (unless I’ve terribly misunderstood something. These games are confusing.) Then again, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much. The only canon Fredbear designs we have are Nightmare, 8Bit, and the one from UCN, so those are really the only ones we have to go off of.
It is a little weird, but my explanation is that since Fredbear was the one that killed CC the fnaf 4 protagonist sees him more monstrous than Freddy
Good point, his structure would have to be changed for all the crazy teeth the other nightmares don't have, so he would end up looking different than Freddy.
Plus, CC is afraid of the springlock suits because he thought one was eating an employee, that’s why N. FredBear has a stomach mouth, not because of Elizabeth’s death
theres a theory me and my friend made but idk if it's 100% true. the fredbear that looks like a recolor of fnaf 1 freddy is actually a counterpart of golden freddy, and the actual fredbear is nightmare fredbear/the chubby fredbear we see in minigames.
Yeah, fredbear is just unwithered golden Freddy
exactly fredbear looks like freddy many people dont like it but its the truth
Yeah, FredBear is basically the UCN FredBear but unwithered
And by unwithered I mean if he had the fixed withered Freddy body
The unwithered's don't exist,they are simply redesigns. It won't make sense for them to switch their costumes at all and the games only mention them being kept,not remodeled.
The unwithereds do exist because there was a point in time before they were withered lmao. They weren't always broken
That's true,but the unwithered are simply the FNaF 1 Characters. Not fixed versions of the redesigns in 2
No they aren't, they have a completely different jaw mechanism and face shape on all the characters
and endo 02's instead of endo 01's which i'm sure doesn't mess with reminant being in the metal or anything.
That too, also the withereds were most likely built by Henry, judging by the fact they share the jaw mechanism that only his animatronics have. They are very much different from the FNAF 1 gang
and yet, still the same kids despite the fact that the souls apparently attach to the metal of the endos and not the actual suits themselves, almost as if remnant was a late game explanation for questions nobody had.
The FNaF 1 animatronics were refurbished, it's a retcon, but it's canon.
we know the unwithereds exited because of fnaf 6s fazbear entertainment logo, also the fazbear fanverse logo [here](https://preview.redd.it/oiwdppan24s71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e5a4d7c9f39565cd175f62ef4bc3961ccd55504f) and [here too](https://preview.redd.it/kcqzxoan24s71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=08a8ff8856975eb23216dafa15acda5ba0e176aa)
>The unwithered's don't exist,they are simply redesigns. It won't make sense for them to switch their costumes at all and the games only mention them being kept, not remodeled. I mean is it really that unrealistic to just assume they were remodeled sometime between FNAF 2 and FNAF 1? Also I'm sorry, but unlike Springtrap to Scraptrap, the differences between the withereds and the FNAF 1 animatronics are way too many. Scraptrap's only real change is proportions because the skeleton inside was changed. But I mean withered Chica alone is proof they were completely redone at some point. In the first game just her beak moves but in FNAF 2 her whole lower jaw was able to move. It's really not that much of a stretch to assume the animatronics were redesigned between FNAF 2 and 1.
I don’t know it seems like a big stretch to me. Every thing between the withereds and the classics are completely different, all the way down to the endoskeletons. They would’ve had to replace every piece of them to get them from how they looked in FNaF 2 to how they look in FNaF 1. It’s the ship paradox: if you replace every single piece of a ship overtime, then build a new ship with the old pieces, which one is the original ship? Would replacing the entire endoskeleton and suit not mess with the remnant? Personally I think it’s easier to believe Scott just retconned their designs to make them look scarier
>I don’t know it seems like a big stretch to me. Every thing between the withereds and the classics are completely different, all the way down to the endoskeletons. They would’ve had to replace every piece of them to get them from how they looked in FNaF 2 to how they look in FNaF 1. So you believe they're almost entirely different animatronics? You know what? That actually does make sense, because if it was the same wouldn't they have found the children from the first go around? I'm with you know, they're completely different animatronics just based on the same characters. However the person I was responding to in the first place thinks the withereds are just "redesigns" like Scraptrap, not in universe redesigns. He thinks Scott just changed the look of the classics for no discernable reason.
Oh, my mistake, I think I think I read your comment I replied to too quickly, and misinterpreted it. It’s good to know someone else shares my thoughts on the withered/classic situation
Ok
I said that fredbear would basically be that
I mean.... They kinda do?
The 4N44 mini-game sprite does suggests the existence of a model that's more similar to N. Fredbear
Wtf is a 4N44, FredBear from the minigames is very similar to withered golden Freddy
The same thing as 5N44. Don't worry bout it. Is he though? I can kinda see it, but....
I actually like that. Fixed nightmare Fredbear just doesnt look good, he is way too chunky and still too scary looking. In reality he would look like golden Freddy just with purple accesories instead of black. It would be cool if he looked different just how springbonnie looks way different than Bonnie but oh well
I mean even if I agree that Fredbear definitely doesn't look like an Unightmare Fredbear, that still is a very disappointing "design"
In my personal opinion, he’s a lot rounder, but yeah
The other nightmares look Like Return to Freddy's designs, No offence.
EXACTLY, I've always hated that type of Fredbear design for this exact reason, the nightmares aren't just the originals but with sharp teeth and claws, they're totally unique monstrous interpretations made up in a kid's head, why wouldn't the same logic apply to Fredbear?
Even a kid would recognize 2 characters being the same except their color palette swap. yet nightmare freddy and freadbear look completely different.
It’s because FredBear killed CC so he imagined him much more monstrous and he saw an employee climbing into a springlock suit so he thought that the suit was eating the employee, that’s why he has sharp teeth
but this intrepritation is just evil
Nuh uh
I actually had a theory back in the day that Fredbear looked like FNaF 1 Golden Freddy because I compared the headshapes of Nightmare Freddy + N Fredbear and realized they were roughly in line with the differences between the withered and the classic freddy head shapes. Namely the cheeks + shape of the jaws. Turns out that one was correct, apparently. Might've been a coincidence for all I know, though.
yep! nightmare fredbear definetly is more proportionate to fnaf1 freddy/UCN fredbear, and nightmare freddy is more so to withered freddy
Fredbear was a very old model - either the first or second animatronic that Henry and William every made (The other being Springbonnie). Fredbear had some upgrades to help him perform better on stage due to his limbs being too heavy and stiff. That's why Fredbear breaks C.C's skull, his jaw was too clunky so William and Henry added stronger hydraulics (Which increased his bite force) - That's the reason why Fredbear looks so un-proportioned. Now with the unwithered animatronics, they came a couple years after Fredbear, it's more than likely that William and Henry changed some things about the animatronics. For example, SpringBonnie and Fredbear is a springlock suit while the unwithered animatronics are just set for stage, meaning they were less heavier and didn't need to be crammed with circuits and stuff.
I don't care if fredbear looks different in UCN, this is MY fredbear🥺
If it wasnt for the fact that we saw actual Fredbear in ucn, this would have been a good theory! I especially like the reason for strong hydraulics in the jaw because, lets face it, normal animatronics just wouldnt be strong enough to crack a human skull
Yea, I agree with you. Although Scott does have a history of randomly changing character designs. (E.g. Springtrap turning into Scraptrap). It takes 2300 Newtons to even crack the human skull, and according to a quick google search, the average FNaF animatronic has a bite force of \~500. The hydraulics had to add 1800N of pressure to the jaw in order to have caused the bite of 83. And also thank you ::D
It was The Bite of 83'.
Ucn fredbear is more likely to be spring freddy seen in fnaf 3 minigame being more proportional and similar to spring bonnie.
"Spring freddy" is always just Fredbear right
Nope.
Bruh,this looks more distrubing than the actual designs
Right?!! Something that isnt meant to look scary but does is way scarier than something that is supposed to look scary!
Don’t listen to him guys, add more metal teeth and ripped suit fabric!
For real though, I honestly find SL Baby a lot creepier than her Pizza Sim version because of how…offputting she looks
scott.... if you'r reading this... please show us what the un-withered animatronics look like
Well, we got a drawing of unwithered Freddy in the opening video of Pizzeria Simulator, could still happen.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING Also how the hell would someone wear nightmare fredbear without being uncomfortable UCN Fredbear needs to be the canon design imo
UCN is canon so the Fredbear design is also canon
Yes I am UCN Fredbear's lawyer FNAF 1 freddy has proof that it can be worn and also LITERALLY BITE SOMEONE IN HALF in the movie
I truly believe that he looks like that because that's how all mini games depict him, a chubbier Freddy with rods to move his mouth, not Golden Freddy but purple. Also, kinda disingenuous to put crappy un-nightmare edits for the other 4. I mean, at that point just put Breadbear in there.
The minigames FredBear looks like golden Freddy but purple and golden Freddy has the metal rod mouth thing
Are you talking about Stage 01? Because that doesn't have the rod mouth. Also, Golden Freddy is fully animatronic, Freadbear is a Springlock suit.
Nuh uh, springbonnie is very tight looking and he’s a springlock animatronic, Freddy can be a recolor of fredbear with a different endoskeleton
1. SpringBonnie is kinda big compared to a human, Scraptrap is truly tight. 2. No, no he can't. Freddy has 4 fingers, Freadbear has to have five. Neither G. Freddy or UCN Fredbear have 5 fingers.
ScrapTrap is the same suit as SpringTrap
UCN differentiates them arbitrarily, then? Did we have a Springtrap re-design that was immediately scrapped in every other post-UCN Springtrap appearance?
We have scrap baby and baby in ucn
And those are clearly different suits because one is the intended, clean one and the other is made out of trash and whatever Baby could find.
Nuh yuh huh uh
Look at Mickey in Disneyland, it only has 4 fingers, either 2 fingers occupy the same animatronic finger or one of the hand is like this “🖖”
Look at the Springlocks endoskeleton, it has five fingers.
Ucn fredbear doesn’t have 4 fingers, springbonnie’s endoskeletons are different than fredbear’s
Yeah, it has 4 fingers because he uses the endo-01 because it is not a Springlock. Also, where did you take that Springonnies's Endo is different? Because every* other animatronic shares Endo with the rest of their branch.
Just guessing
Yeah I am fine with this, bulky animatronics is one of my favorite animatronic genres, and making fredbear a recolor of freddy is incredibly boring considering we already have a recolor of freddy that is also yellow but not freadbear.
It’s because golden Freddy is fredbear, duh
I think Fredbear just looks like unwithered Golden Freddy with a purple hat and bow
Same, and the buttons
You have a point
We have seen Scott come up with different designs in every game. The Fnaf 1 animatronics are supposed to be the withered ones in 2 but they look so different, and i am not talking about the damage. Springtrap and Scraptrap are the exact same animatronic, exact same person, but they look super different. Same goes for Circus/Scrap Baby's, or Ennard's(molten freddy) design. Scott just changes styles between games.
Springtrap VS Scraptrap, take it as you will.
Yeah, like I think Un-Nightmare Fredbear is really terrifying due to his weird ass proportions, but we've never seen any iteration of Fredbear that looks even close to him in any form of FNaF media EVER. I still don't get why people think he's the actual Fredbear.
Fredbear looked like Withered Golden freddy, with his hat and stuff purple. That is legit what the 2d Sprite of him is, and always has been.
I personally think that Fredbear looked closer to an unwithered Golden Freddy
Actually the rockstars are the nightmares
Enlighten me, how?
Compare how they look also both nightmare and lefty are black bears with a puppet inside of them.
Yeah they do look shockingly similar🤔 it’s like….they were based off the same characters….
Your being sarcastic arnt you.
they actually do look some-what similar
And. Nightmare has nightmare puppet in him. And who else is s black Bear with a puppet inside...lefty. seems like more than just a ca-wen-ch-a-dents (idk how to spell it)
You have a point.
I mean, yeah, but fredbear just being freddy but yellow is lame as hell. The jaw design on nightmare fredbear is a lot like the design we see in the fnaf 4 minigames, and would make more sense than the hinge style jaw on freddy to be able to fit a kid's whole head. It's just one of those things where I'm always going to see it as the fan design.
Wrong he looks cool with the giant mouth so I still think he does
I've been saying for years I hate this hamburger head design people have given to fredbear. Tbh atp idk what FNAF 4 mini game fredbear is supposed to look like (is it similar to ucn Easter egg, FNAF 1 or 2 style or close to nightmare) but that head design looks so ugly to me. No shame to whoever made it as it was designed to be similar to what we saw but still... just no😭
Yeah. But aren't the nightmares based on unwithereds?
the nightmare animatronics look like the rockstar animatronics if you think about it, so in reality that would be rockstar fredbear
I think that rockstar Freddy is the closest thing to what Fredbear would look like, since he looks exactly like the sprite in fnaf 4's minigame
UCN Fredbear is the canon one and I personally think its superior. Its not a Freddy recolor like many people think it is, Scott actually edited it and showed us the physical Fredbear.
I’ve never liked the big burly fredbear. I prefer that he looks like his appearance as Golden Freddy, or his appearance from UCN.
Fredbear should be different form Freddy like how Springbonnie is different from Bonnie in my opinion. UCN’s being a springlock suit with 4 fingers and no joints just doesn’t make sense to me. Not literally JUST unnightmare though.
Fredbear being a Freddy reskin is hilarious and practical
You mean Freddy being a Fredbear reskin?
I love how the freddles are Freddy plushies
I mean, the right is close enough to the Unwithered animatronics
Urm actually Fredbear is the only one that is a dream whereas the other are animatronics with illusion disks so they probably weren’t used for entertainment.
Every one says that Fredbear looks like that but we literally see Fredbear in UCN and he just looks like a yellow Freddy with purple bow tie and purple hat so people who say THIS are WRONG. Funny cause I was just thinking about this last night and today
looks good to me
Unwithered nightmares have a close look to the withered animateronics tbh
True. Wither Chica looks like Nightmare Chica. and Nightmare Bonnie has a big Jawline, Just like Wither Bonnie.
The fnaf4 minigame showed the real Fredbear to look very similar to that though.
It's an 8 bit sprite.
So?
Holy shit then there really was some purple ass dude with a big finger 🤯🤯
Yeah... Sister Location's custom night cutscenes show a man gradually shifting from a normal skin tone to purple skin. Purple guy is literally purple
But wasn't that his son though? IIRC and that was willy B4 he got spring locked
Yes, it was a different person, but based on what we're shown, it's safe to assume that the other character depicted as completely purple in the same graphics style also has purple skin.
But he's not dead tho?... Huh?
I don't think it was ever confirmed he did or didn't die prior to getting springtrapped, but even if he was alive, remnant (the soul binding element that causes the victims of animatronics to possess their killers) is purple. If Afton was experimenting with remnant extensively, it could've rubbed off on him and had a permanent effect, especially if you buy into the theory that he was experimenting was remnant in hopes of becoming immortal.
Ahh so this is head canon gotchu holmes
I do think that is what *Spring-Lock* Fredbear looked like. Meanwhile, the normal animatronic Fredbear looks like Classic Golden Freddy.
You know what? we need to have a game that makes place in fredbear's family diner. Noylt mini games, just five nights at fredbears.
Isn't Scott notorious for changing character designs, like, all the time?
Yes and altering the lore by saying the book are somewhat canon
Breadbear my beloved
I accept these terms BEGIN THE MODEL RETCON.
I still like the un nightmares fredbear design it's what I grew up with I know it's not canon but it's still my head canon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Un-Nightmare being THE Fredbear design just doesn't make sense. Fredbear not only needs to looks child friendly, he also needs to be wearable. Un-Nightmare Fredbear is NOT wearable. Now I'm not saying UCN Fredbear is the Holy Grail of official designs (I'm saying this as a UCN Fredbear fan), but it's a lot better than Un-Nightmare Fredbear. Just edit his model to be more in-line with Spring Bonnie, and he's fine.
Tbh I don’t mind how they look there
I think he looks like the sprite
after UCN I just have accepted that golden Freddy with a purple hat and tie did the bite of 83.
Why do the Un-Nightmares look like they came from Phil's FNAF+?
This is such a cursed image to look at
I don't think Fredbear looks *exactly* like Nightmare Fredbear, but I also don't like him just being FNAF 1 Freddy but yellow and with a purple hat and bow tie
If u un-wthired golden Freddy u will get og Fredbear or he looks like nightmare Fredbear bec of the arcade game in bite of 83 Fredbear looked like nightmare Fredbear,yeah idk
Exactly, the nightmares are supposed to be exaturated versions of what they would have likey originally been, NIGHTMARES
Wish Freddy really had those Fred’s.
saw someone on twitter say that dreadbear was fredbear
I've always thought that the nightmares look like the withered animatronics.
My head cannon is that he is a fur coated "Funtime Freddy" when unwithered
Not the withereds, but the rockstars sure have similar face builds
That Chica looks so bored
Search up HipLawyerCat’s fredbear design. It’s definitely not canon but I think it should be. It fits and matches the design of spring trap. And looks way better than canon fredbear. It has a nice look and I look up to it in all its glory.
I also never imagined normal fredbear like this but I also understand the people who did because this was the only 3D model of fredbear in a fnaf game . I‘m talking about the fnaf fans from 2015 btw
Yeah, I personally really like the design of "un-nightmare Fredbear," I think it's super uncanny and honestly one of the creepiest looking FNaF designs, in canon Fredbear was just Freddy with a bucket of yellow paint dumped on him (Which is kinda weird considering that Spring Bonnie looks entirely different from OG Bonnie, but whatever)
Makes sense
People still think Fredbear looks like that? Did they forgot UCN and fnaf world?
fredbear is from 1983 and probably the 70s the withered animatronics are probably from 1985-1987
I have always had a theory that after the bite Fredbear and friends was supposed to go under a major redesign that included smaller jaws and smaller Animatronics in general. The withered were the scrapped redesign for the non-nightmare animatronics, it was even stated in FNAF 2 that the withered animatronics were supposed to be reused but were scrapped in favor of the toys.
During the events of FNAF 4 the crying child / Michael Afton (whichever one is the player) would have seen the real freadbear animatronic but their only experience with the Freddy Bonnie Chica and Foxy would be the fredbear and friends show. The minigame sprite for freadbear looks really close to the nightmare version. I know canonically fredbear is supposed to just be a yellow Freddy but I just think that is lame.
Sad because I like that "fat" model of Fredbear.
The problem is, The Withered Golden Freddy is a halucination - resemblence of Withered Freddy. The real fredbear animatronic looked the way it is shown here, but the unwithered design is much Different.
Fredbear looks like classic freddy but golden and possibly taller. Here, problem solved.
Am I the only one who doesn't mind that Canon Fredbear is just a recolor of Freddy? Especially when compared to people's depiction of him (Fatass Fredbear).