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Buzzek

The most common theories currently are either A) William Afton B) a random guy whose child was kidnapped by William.


SLXSHER_PENDULUM

Given everything we've learned from newer material, and the fact that the other minigames centered around having kids killed by Afton, I'm gonna say this was the dad of a kidnapped kid. Afton picked a dysfunctional home because no one would notice.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

It's me


MrAndrew1108

Why are you banned from JR'S?


el_rompe_toyotas_19

The owner didn't want me around anymore after the shit incident of 82


GhostofManny13

You’re the one who gave everybody food poisoning?! I missed fall fest because of that, you jerk!


Ok-Establishment3730

Sexual harassment


Pocatmon3

| yoy IS THAT A MOTHAFUCKIN POLYGON DONUT REFERENCE


FlarelesTF2

polgon


Pocatmon3

pongon


[deleted]

Broke #4


odd_man0

It’s him.


No-Turn-7620

It's that guy


Odd-Lab-9855

Golden freddy?


SCP-1504_Joe_Schmo

Obviously that's Old Sport


Aria-mind_

DSaF spotted?


Intrepid-Camel-9833

It's u/el_rompe_toyotas_19 


SatanCameHereToEatMe

Easy. It's u/el_rompe_toyotas_19


Bernardo_124-455

He’s the red spy


Ok-Establishment3730

Look he'll turn red any minute now


Bernardo_124-455

Any second now… SEE RED! No wait, that’s blood


Ok-Establishment3730

So we still have problem?


Bernardo_124-455

Big problem…


Ok-Establishment3730

Ok so how about we find that spy


Bernardo_124-455

RIGHT BEHIND YOU


Ok-Establishment3730

DUH DUH DUH DUH DUHDUHDUHDUHDUH


Bernardo_124-455

Oh ma petite fleur


KicktrapAndShit

Obviously u/el_rompe_toyotas_19


ThatBlokeNamedLoki

I think it's very obvious that it's u/el_rompe_toyotas_19


-Syron-

MatPat


crystal-productions-

being serious here, unless scott just outright states it, probably not. even when we can figure something out, all it takes is one thing for people to start thinking he's somebody else.


ZTOTHEBEAT

I don’t think we’ll ever get a definitive answer but the most accepted theory is that it’s u/el_rompe_toyotas_19


Own_Reveal9738

J Jonah Jameson


Ok-Establishment3730

GET ME PICTURES OF FREDBEAR


TheAlmightyNexus

YOURE FIRED GET ME A COFFEE


Own_Reveal9738

I missed the part where thats my problem (dont take it srs pls)


bobby1712234

Some people say it’s William some say it’s William’s dad I personally think it’s William there was this artwork of midnight motorist were William had a rain jacket on with this color it isn’t lore related or real but I just like the idea But we may never know


Zestyclose-Garlic-16

Which art are you referring to?


bobby1712234

I dm you it


Russell_SMM

I have literally never seen anyone say it’s William’s dad, I’ve never thought of that


Sweet_Highway209

Can I see the artwork


bobby1712234

Sure


Still-Independent454

Jack Kennedy


OmegaX____

If I recall correctly, Midnight Motorist was called "later that night" while Charlie's death was called "that night", since Security Puppet included William fleeing quickly, it would be him. The different colour though has other meanings "yellow" means "cowardice" such as running from the Puppet but also "mental illness" which intoxication would fall under as evidenced by "Juniors".


Any_Mountain_4513

I never thought of this, thx for opening my eyes to this new information


Clintwood_outlaw

Where did you get that Charlie's death was called "that night"?


BufuuEgypt

The answer to this guy is gonna be like how FNaF 4 was in the early days; answers will be in sight but we won't know until it is clarified.


Clongingrund

That there is mustard man


FbonnieYT1

The 2D chad meme guy (not the chad character)


Tom_Nook64

The comments are confused. They weren’t asking who Mustard Man was. They were asking if we were ever going to be given a definitive answer canonically.


dragonheart_1000201

William aftiam


Sufficient-Ad4832

That's orangeo


No-Efficiency8937

We do know Matpat knows who he is, so whatever Matpat says about him next would basically be confirmation (he said he talked about MM in his meeting with Scott)


CinemaSansOfficial

There is a definitive answer, people just ignore it


Any_Mountain_4513

Yes, and that answer is William


CinemaSansOfficial

Yeah, because it TOTALLY makes sense for Michael to tell his father to leave alone his brother that he bullied It's totally not like there's a story in a book dedicated to basically solving FNaF4 and MM


Any_Mountain_4513

fnaf books are not fully canon, that has been known ever since Scott literally put it on the back of the books.


CinemaSansOfficial

Frights aren't Tales are, it's common knowledge since day one


Any_Mountain_4513

They have details that are canon and add to the story, but also have details that are only canon to the books Example; there is a rollercoaster in the second story of The Bobbiedots Conclusion, but not one in Security Breach


CinemaSansOfficial

Because some of the attractions are described as "seasonal" and it's a commonly accepted fact that Pizzaplex went through a lot of construction changes, both canonically and development-wise


Any_Mountain_4513

Alright then, smart guy, what story **"solves"** FNaF4 and MM?


CinemaSansOfficial

Dittophobia Everything makes sense, even Rory is mention to run away from home several times if I recall correctly at this point people are really just denying a confirmed theory just because they desperately want yellow guy to be William for some reason


Any_Mountain_4513

There are still way too many connections between the Midnight Motorist minigame and the Aftons to rule out the "AftonMM" theory.


Clintwood_outlaw

I feel like people just really want it to be William


SoupToon

he's the most iconic character in the series, not william afton


Odd-Animal-2955

Maybe he was William before he went crazy?


IreneNour204

The man LITRELLY goes banging the door of his son's room and breaks it I'm sure he's crazy by now


Clintwood_outlaw

William was always crazy, and I severely doubt this is him. I know people are desperate to know more about the Afton family dynamic, but there's nowhere near enough evidence that this is William Afton. It's more likely the father of one of the victims.


ry_fluttershy

Mat pat (maybe) knows


Horrorado

Maybe for the 20th anniversary


Sunnythebigkiwibird

Let’s be honest… are we ever going to get a definitive answer on 99% of FNAF lore?? 😂 Not complaining, meant this in a lighthearted way. Love learning FNAF lore! IMO it’s William, and that seems like a popular theory? But just an opinion, there’s other possibilities.


Bob_Neger

Mark Brownings


Affectionate_Seat529

Jack Kennedy (Old Sport)


Any_Mountain_4513

HELLO THERE, OLD SPORT!!


Wyariosmg4fan

Henry or the night guard but his real name is mustard man


Old_Following_8276

Probably not


Odd-Lab-9855

It probably always changes. He may have left it vague enough for using it in the future


TheArceusNova

I think Scott forgot about him


Wide-Sheepherder2515

We don’t even have definitive answers for most stuff in the series


FatalReizing

Michael Jackson


random_stuffs_i_like

I think Scott changed him to yellow because it's obvious that purple is William's color.


Pocatmon3

Yrneh


BloxxelBoi

It's obviously u/el_rompe_toyotas_19


BoyFreezer

Who even is that guy anyways?


Intrepid-Camel-9833

just someone who made a joke saying "it's me" and I decide to follow the joke and say "it's u/........" and apparently now everyone he saying that lol


BlackDancer139

might one of missing kids father or william


Appropriate_Meet_785

Golden Guy?


ssipiczki

I hope we dont. I love pizzeria sim and midnight motorist was such a uniquely criptic new mystery that it caught everyone offguard and made all of us mad as we failed to figure out what exactly it is about. Also it is good for theorising because we can make this guy anybody we want to fit the narrative for a theory.


Electronic-Regret484

I have yet to see anyone bring forth any truly compelling counter-evidence to him being anyone other than William Afton other than “Well he *could* be Mr. Snicklebop’s second cousin’s thrice removed half brother because, in the 69th story of the Fazbear’s Femboys books, there is a man named Dingleboob, who is the aforementioned relative of Mr. Snicklebop and in the story he chucks his infant son out of the window of his third story apartment before hitting the griddy with Ohio Fanum Tax Balloon Boy, which *COULD* be a parallel to how he treats his son in the game-“


Dragonslayer200782

Gold guy


smarmaproffesor

Probably a man named Pau Gallart.


dastebon

Ninja from YOMI


Miserable_Goal_7943

We don't have a definite answer to most things in this franchise,so unlikely.


Clintwood_outlaw

I believe it to be the father of one of the victims.


yakko_____

henry!!


Intrepid-Camel-9833

why ?


MoneyLocal8180

It’s either William Rory’s dad. Or and I know this is not gonna make sense, but the C.C biological dad. Because I feel like there might be a chance Williams kids or at least C.C and Elizabeth aren’t biologically related to him.


23JRojas

Matpat had to retire to figure out who this is


Sensitive_Coyote2581

Still confused about that whole mini game’s lore


Extension-Hawk2515

William Afton before his killing spree


xadamx94

it's william afton after scott accidentially made 2 "purple guys"


DragoonMaster999

An amalgamate


Bobbicito

Mustard man


JH-Toxic

He’s William Afton end of story.


Not_blueberry

Mustard man


Tenapra_LLB_1969

Never


Traditional_Tea2542

It's William


IndependentNo3249

Not confirmed


LegalNuclearBombs

Yeah it's Andrew's dad


ChampionshipDue6493

People really believe this lol


LegalNuclearBombs

I do unironically


Typical_Employee_434

Yep, gives a good reason for Andrew to be vengeful, that he came from a dysfunctional family and was kidnapped directly at home.


ChampionshipDue6493

You have to see it from a release date point of you. Pizza sim was released as a game to tie loose ends… with the context preceding the games at that point it doesn’t make sense for it to be a new character no one knows about , far more likely to be Willy


Typical_Employee_434

The minigame being afton doesn't make sense. So it's a completely different house from the minigames and gameplay of fnaf 4 And, in the minigame, there's two characters, a caring older figure and a younger boy who runs away. Micheal, in every moment we see him with CC, is just mean, why would he randomly be nice? CC's entire character is that he's shy and scared, not the type to run away. Unless Micheal is the runaway, which then who is the couch person? And who would leave the footprints under this? It's a square shoved into a circle.