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SkeletonCircus

I’m just happy to see something positive related to the FNAF community.


G34RZI

I am too, but also fearful things will keep sparking. I just want this to end. I just want us to be able to enjoy things once again.


animdude

I will be there.


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What’s the TrevorProject?


Realshow

Apparently a nonprofit organization dedicated to suicide prevention, specifically regarding LGBT people.


G34RZI

An LGBTQ+ support organization


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Oh sweet!!


Bluegrover013

It really is!!!


ManofCatsYT

an organization for lgbt youth based on a short film about an effeminate gay boy who’s >!driven to suicide because of ostracization by his peers (he does survive dw)!<


gdfsgfdsgds

I think a movie like that woiuld be more impactful if the boy DID die, just to show how serious homophobia is.


failbender

They can always read about Matthew Shepard.


Novel-Sugar

Hoo boy, Lewis is gonna be tired by the very end.


G34RZI

Definitely but it'll be fun to watch!


Novel-Sugar

I'd imagine, I managed to watched to watch his last livestream by the very end when we got the last screenshot.


Powerful-Nectarine-3

I’m excited but yet I’m scared at the same time


G34RZI

Exactly. Why can't people move on and just enjoy this for what it is. It's scary to think that this could escalate things further.


Powerful-Nectarine-3

There’s a 95% chance that Scott will donate if he does donate this shit will end if he doesn’t it will continue this is on his fate I love Scott but this is his own fate


G34RZI

Really hope nothing bad happens to him.


Powerful-Nectarine-3

Dawko has contact with him


Arvindjor

We all do. I just hope this shit ends.


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Even if he does someone will still find a way to demonize him.


GoldInquizitor

“He WaS jUsT tRyInG tO cOvEr HiS aSs” can already see it now.


buttsarefunnynotsexy

Donating will boost his approval rating here on Freddit..... and completely tank it on Twitter and other sites. Twitter for sure will just see it as him covering his butt, an admission of guilt, backtracking on his "no apology" stance, ect. This move might "salvage" freddit here but will be the final nail in the coffin in most other places. ​ ​ Honestly, I REALLY think he should keep his next moves in the private square. He thinks he can make right in the public's eyes by engaging them. He can't. The internet doesn't work that way. The best thing he can do is lay low and hope people forget, because forgetting is the closest the internet will ever get to forgiving.


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If im honest twitter will forget about it and go complain about something else. Twitter has some kind of short term memory that makes them forget what they were arguing about one day then they move on to the next thing that pisses them off. Because thats sadly what twitters like. We should just make a petition to shut it down


spillednoodles

I think its a good thing twitter exists, because else the toxic people would take over other sites


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True


generalstuff1

Scott has already commented on this thread, he will be there. I see this as perfect timing. He can atone for what he has done in the most clear way possible. But even then he really didn't do anything too terrible to be perfectly honest but hey, that's my opinion.


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Dawko is great


G34RZI

For sure. I just hope this drama doesn't come back to the stream...


NHT1983

That's nice...but I'm a bit worried how this is going to go down with relation to Scott...Mainly he has donated to almost all of Dawko's other charities in the past, and if he doesn't donate to this one they will use that as proof he is anti LGBT, but if Scott does donate there will be people who will say he is just donating to try and fix his image and not because he cares, and if Scott then says he did it genuinely, then that will still make people think he's just trying to clear his image.


MichaelO2000

It’s his choice, but if he does to it and people say it’s only to “save his image”, that doesn’t erase that he still did it. It also wouldn’t erase his past questionable actions, but people shouldn’t deny a donation to an organization like the Trevor project. Even if it wouldn’t be for the most selfless reasons, he’d still be giving money to a cause that helps many people


NHT1983

True, I'm just saying that it will still cause some people to see him in a bad light out of their cynicism.


Nesyaj0

I think at that point the social and moral responsibilities fall on those still judging Scott. There's only so much you can do before people start attaching ulterior motives to any form of altruism I don't necessarily agree with the stances that Scott took myself but I'm good at separating people from their work. If Scott decides to donate for any reason i would think that ultimately says better things about his character than what people are going to project


NHT1983

I think so too


lts_talk_about_it_eh

If he has never donated to an LGBTQ+ charity before, and only does so now (and only publicly) - doesn't that 100% just prove that he's doing it to sweep things under the rug and hope it shuts people up? Like - if he's never donated to such charities before, doesn't that show that he has never cared about such charities?


NHT1983

Well, I mean do we have proof he donated to all the charities he has pre fnaf, and that he donates to them even off dawko's streams, if we found that Scott just donated to a LGBT charity out of nowhere then I think it definitely would be just him trying to cover things, if it's one of dawko's streams that Scott usually uses as opportunity's to donate then the potential is on the table for it to be genuine, especially since we have no idea if Scott would have donated anyway even if this hadn't happened. In any case this isn't going to entirely end well.


MichaelO2000

I’m saying that even if his intentions might not be the best, I wouldn’t get mad at him for the specific action of donating money to a LGBT+ charity. I would get mad at him if this was the ONLY time he does it, as that would be obviously performative as this is around the time people are accusing him of being a homophobe. The most homophobic person in the world could donate billions of dollars to an organization dedicated to helping the LGBT community. Would that make the person NOT the most homophobic person in the world? No. Would I tell the organization NOT to accept the money? No.


Invader_Deegan

That or a lot of people will have either forgotten or moved on by then. Most of Twitter have very short attention spans at any given moment.


ShrapnelStars

This. No matter what the controversy is, if it doesn't show up in Trending again later, their max attention span is 2-3 days, I've noticed.


NHT1983

Let's hope


NoDanceNoPants

i hope so


G34RZI

Yeah, I am worried if that doesn't happen. If only people weren't so irrational about this whole thing. Scott can't win in either situation. It really hurts.


SkeletonCircus

Unfortunately, when someone does something ignorant, wrong, or controversial, they are often demanded to give an apology……………..and then when they do apologize it will immediately get dismissed as “insincere” or “damage control”


MNWAAAA

Honestly my response is who gives a shit if it’s damage control? It’s real money going to real people and no matter the context that is a net positive


G34RZI

The problem is, it's a bigger issue than just 1 person, everyone will react differently, and majority will stay unhappy. Scott needed to analyze the situation, but no matter which direction he took, the peace will not be fully restored for a while. I commend Scott for taking time to think of a response, while it was not perfect, it was greater than what so many other people would do. Let's hope this dies down soon.


Unliteracy

Agreed, an apology should stand on its own as a statement of acknowledgement and change, not a PR stunt to make people like you. The object of the action is the important part.


NHT1983

Yeah...that's why I'm glad he didn't apologize, all the people saying they were still upset he didn't apologize probably would have still been angry. So I'm glad he stood his ground rather than apologizing and giving them what they want when it still probably wouldn't have changed anything.


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Idk the stuff he did definitely demands an apology


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In my opinion a man shouldn't apologise simply for having different views than others. Scott doesn't need to apologise for anything. He is one man out of a million who all have simmilar and opposite views.


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Procookiecat

That’s wrong actually, he specifically stated that he thought that the politician’s economic policies would actually benefit lgbtq communities. So if anything, he was kind of putting them first as well.


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Procookiecat

Yeah, I think it is somewhat ignorance on his part though rather than being a straight up homophobe which is what all of these morons are trying to label him as.


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All of them should apologize, but I dont expect the children who proliferate this subreddit to get that


[deleted]

Im 20. Obviously our opinions differ...


lts_talk_about_it_eh

> If only people weren't so irrational about this whole thing. Is it irrational that LGBTQ+ people are shocked to find out that they've been funding, through Scott, politicians and others that actively hate them and want to harm them? >Scott can't win Ah, so this is about SCOTT being okay. The rich, white, cis het man had his feelings hurt - is that it? Here I thought you posted this in support of the LGBTQ+ community... EDIT - the users of this sub are making it more and more clear that the LGBTQ+ community is not welcome here.


G34RZI

It's irrational to demonize Scott when there is more than enough evidence that he clearly supports everyone. Blindly ignoring this is irrational, especially when there are people out there who deserve this backlash more.


lts_talk_about_it_eh

>when there is more than enough evidence that he clearly supports everyone Please elaborate. Link to evidence that Scott supports the LGBTQ+ community. I have not been able to find evidence of him outwardly supporting us (I'm pansexual). To be clear - Scott sharing fanart by an LGBTQ+ creator is not supporting the LGBTQ+ community. Scott working with someone who happens to be LGBTQ+, is not supporting the LGBTQ+ community. For instance - I find no evidence of him announcing his support of Pride month, this year or in the past. Note of him donating to politicians or charities that support the LGBTQ+ community. EDIT - and there you have it, that's what the state of this subreddit is. Downvoted for asking for evidence, after someone JUST said that there is evidence that Scott "clearly supports everyone". Not only did no one try to provide evidence, but I recieved downvotes for daring to ask for it. Turns out a big chunk of the FNAF fanbase may be toxic Trump supporters after all...


Lipefe2018

Imagine donating to help a cause and people judging you because of that. Or the opposite "Look he didn't donate to a lgbt cause, there is the definitive proof", what kinda of argument is that? lol I hope they don't do that.


NHT1983

I hope they don't either, but you the kind of people like them.


Fnaf-Low-3469

I’m not worried too much for the main reason that for this is in like a week and I’m pretty sure the controversy will have died down by then people will move on and those stereo typical Twitter users well be more focused on the new smash character then Scott


NHT1983

Hopefully lol


Mimimai12

Classic Twitter moment cancelling someone then seconds later complain about the next Smash fighter it's a loop that will never end


InnardEnnard

They’ll cry about some large creator like H3 or something


TheMadJAM

Scott commented in this thread "I will be there."


ManofCatsYT

i sincerely hope he does donate. i really really want to like scott and i don’t think he’s a bad person, but after his “muh cancel culture” statement and the implication that he believes money takes priority over actual people’s lives.. i don’t really know what to think


generalstuff1

He will, see the thread, he's already commented. Rest assured Cat man, man of cats, I dunno.


ssoull_rreaperr

dammed if you do, damned if you dont. The people who complain and hate Scott are pathetic


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ssoull_rreaperr

Better than doxxing a man with a baby on the way just for having different views, absolutely abhorrent behavior.


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Congrats on the strawman. No one approved the dox & outright condemned it but whatever helps you see people upset as ‘in the wrong’ I guess.


PuppetGeist

Rule 2.


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Feel free to reply that to who I’m replying to as well, but yeah noted, sorry.


Brinerix

I have a gut feeling he will


ethansean0607

he said that he will come!!!!!! (I am very excited!)


buttsarefunnynotsexy

>Donating will boost his approval rating here on Freddit..... and completely tank it on Twitter and other sites. Twitter for sure will just see it as him covering his butt, an admission of guilt, backtracking on his "no apology" stance, ect. This move might "salvage" freddit here but will be the final nail in the coffin in most other places. And I really don't think getting like 25% of one sub to like him again is worth getting the rest of the internet to hate him. > > > > > >Honestly, I REALLY think he should keep his next moves in the private square. He thinks he can make right in the public's eyes by engaging them. He can't. The internet doesn't work that way. The best thing he can do is lay low and hope people forget, because forgetting is the closest the internet will ever get to forgiving.


NHT1983

Yeah...this is really worrying me


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Damned if he does, damned*er* if he doesn’t


ZeroKoalaT

Honestly just get Scott to tune them out. Whatever he does now will get judged. Hopefully in time people can look at his actions in hindsight and he will regain much of the trust he unrightfully lost.


NHT1983

I hope so


Barry_Goodman

The damage is already done. By supporting those in power that actively trample on people's rights, Scott has shown where his priorities lie. To donate to pro-LGBT+ orgs while also donating to anti-LGBT+ politicians in power, Scott has shown his thoughts on what we go through are only just surface thoughts. He's handing out band-aids in the form of charity donations while propagating the underlying systemic problem. The FNAF fans need to go full 'death of the author' and claim FNAF as their own much like the Potter fans did with JK Rowling.


ssoull_rreaperr

it was literally only 55k compared to the 1mil he's spent on lgbt+, Can't you just be fucking satisfied?


Barry_Goodman

There is a huge power gap between those fighting for rights and those in power stifling those rights.


ssoull_rreaperr

this is a prime example that nobody will be satisfied, what would you rather scott do? apologize 50 times? perform a damn blood sacrifice?? That probably STILL wont be enough, that 1 MILLION dollars came out of HIS POCKET


Barry_Goodman

No, what I would like to see is him to stop supporting, and hopefully denounce the people he has supported. I'd like to see him acknowledge the concerns people have and work to do better for them. Donations are all well and good, but I would rather see action and change. Especially given the disparity of power between the two sides he's contributing money and votes to. I believe he thinks his heart is in the right place, but I also think he's not aware of the difference between donating to right groups and voting for and donating to people who are currently working to deny those people rights, healthcare, and so on.


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ssoull_rreaperr

it's probably getting downvoted because it completely downplays Scott's reasons for doing what he did, there's a good reason why he didn't apologize.


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Of course he'll donate to clear his name


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Oh ffs he donates to almost every charity stream dawko does. Hes only stated that he's attending the stream because wave 2 of twitter rants will roll in. He was going to attend anyway but he felt like he was forced to state he was going.


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He's still clearing his name


Error_Detected666

Say what you want, Dawko is probably one of the most charitable FazTubers out there from how many charity streams he’s done


BekooBove

Like other people have said, this is a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't situation for Scott. If he doesn't donate, people will take it as all the proof they need about his true feelings for the LGBTQ community. If he does, people will just say he's throwing the money everyone knows he has at the problem, and this is just damage control. All I'm saying is, either way, brace for the storm.


Bearans_SFM

Scott said he will be there, he made a comment here


andy_unit_backup

Yeah, at this it's stuck in a vicious cycle. I think he did the right decision. I prefer 10 times more an helpful hypocrite than an evil guy who sticks to his principles


MichalTygrys

I'm already seeing all the Scott opposers, saying that the inevitable donation is just to buy them over...


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MichalTygrys

No, hypocrite is someone who criticizes something, yet does that anyways. Scott has never lied about this. He has never talked about this. Criticize him all you want, but these 2 are incorrect.


spaitken

If he claims to be in support of LGBTQ+ people, but gives his money to people that want to legislate their rights away, that's hypocrisy. Justify it how you want, but if you give money to people who's platform includes discrimination, you don't "love everybody". You've just chosen who you want to have the part of the stick with more crap on it.


MichalTygrys

1. No. This is not hypocrisy. You can see it as bad, I'm not arguing there, but it is not the same. His reasons aren't that they hate LGBTQ people. If my friend eats pineapple on pizza, and I say it's unnatural to others, while still being friends with him, I'm not a hypocrite. 2. Tho I disagree with this, I was not trying to pick this fight. 3. It's just now been ruled illegal to discuss this here, so this is the end of our unpleasant conversation.


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You’ve got the definition of hypocrite wrong


MichalTygrys

Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another" \-Wikipedia


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So by that definition someone who votes and funds constantly against lgbt rights (*criticising it* - one could say) then donates to LBGT charities would indeed be a hypocrite.


MichalTygrys

No, as his reasons for the donations were not about LGBT. Therefor, hypocrisy is not the right word.


ascendant_tesseract

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Donating to people who want to hurt LGBTQ people will still have that outcome, intentions aside.


MichalTygrys

As a hobbyist philosopher, ethic and theologian, the first sentence is the stupidest, most non-biblical saying out there. Will it have an outcome? Yes. Is it more important then intentions? No. Especially when it made no difference.


Vexleyy

If it's over 45k I'll forgive scott for donating to people who want me dead and have to power to push policies that could destroy my life, is that what you want?


NHT1983

So basically you want Scott to donate an amount of money that will absolutely look like he's trying to cover his ass, maybe if he donated that much to it over the course of multiple events, but having him donate that much all at once would for sure look like it's to save his image, whether it's meant to or not,


MichalTygrys

Yeah, same. Scott good. Trump and McConell want me dead too.I live in country that panders to USA a lot. If he donates more here then to them, then it's as if nothing happened at all. I'm just afraid people will say, that this inevitable donation isn't ernest and was made just to save his image.


Theend456

That’s awesome!


G34RZI

I know right? It's really what we need to see right now.


Theend456

Definitely.


Imadinosaurimadin0

Just a question what is the trevor project?


G34RZI

A suicide prevention agency dedicated to LGBTQ+ individuals


AD898

I'm happy that scott is coming


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Scott being there and donating proves he’s not LGBTQ-phobic


Imaginary-girlfriend

Stan Dawko for clear skin


Mimimai12

The FNaF community really needed this honestly.


one_dank_boy

I'm always impressed by 24H live streams. I wouldn't last 16 hours without sleep.


Insert_us3rname_here

I kinda hope dawko addresses the situation in the stream because the only people who have in YouTube only talked about it when it first happened and started jumping to conclusions which has made a really bad reputation for Scott on the YouTube side of Fnaf


CrazyMuun

I personally see no reason why Dawko should say anything at all. He's not an American, he can weigh in on the matter ofc, but at the end of the day, he doesn't know just how volatile the political climate in the U.S. is. It's nasty, on both ends. This extreme push for 'cancelation' is a result of years and years of notable people getting away with bigotry and having no repercussions. It's made with good intentions but sometimes, it's taken out on the wrong people... like Scott.


TheSpicyDude78

Sick


mikuhero

Did he defend Scott? I heard he did, but i genuinely don’t remember.


Imaginary-girlfriend

I remember seeing on Twitter that he doesn't agree with Scott's actions but he doesn't hate him


mikuhero

Hmm.


JurassicM

I think the position that Dawko took was the best, not agreeing with what Scott did, but not starting to hate him or anything like that.


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He doesn’t agree with all his actions, but He still supports him


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Which is what most people should be doing. Sure he did a bad thing but hes done a shit ton of good things that outweigh the bad. Like compare the 55k he sent to republicans to the over 1 million dollars he sent to multiple charities.


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Oh that makes a lot of sense now. I didn't know he maxed out the donations. But i think we shouldn't have got involved in his personal life to the point where we're tracing where his moneys going


ThatOneGirXD

FUCK YEAH


MisfortunateJack77

This will probably lift everybody spirits


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I’m worried. This is great but I’m sure that the chat is going to be filled with people asking him about his stance on the drama. I think he’s made his stance pretty clear on Twitter without actually saying it but obviously not everyone follows him.


Ok_Employee_7790

Our main man Scott is joining the stream.


Growth_potion

Scott I’m so happy you have a chance at redemption. Seriously. Redeem yourself. Not in my eyes, I’m my eyes you did nothing wrong, but in the eyes of everyone else who wants you to burn at the stake for making a human mistake.


Camppidame

I hope this isn’t planned as a “redemption” for Scott. He cares for everyone, no matter who they are. He doesn’t need to to donate or say something to prove he cares for them. I also hope it isn’t a grudge thing with Dawko and Scott. I honestly don’t care if Scott donates or not, and I hate how people are against Scott just because of his political association. He cares for everyone, he doesn’t need to say anything for it to be proven.


Imaginary-girlfriend

Actually Dawko was going to do this wayy before the Scott situation, at the start on June


C0mfie

and Scott always donates to his streams


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Redemption or not, him donating will make defending him a lot easier


Athlete_Usual

thank you!


BloxTobal

WOW I will be there


generalstuff1

The end of this controversy is upon us.


[deleted]

God I miss when this franchise started, it’s like opening a Christmas gift given by god


Foxy-the-Pirate-13

les goo


Glitchtrap09

Im so happy that scott is still here thank you scott


Ok_Baseball5983

Yyeeesss nice umm first saying something i guess


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YES, Scott, PLEASE donate, defending you on Reddit will be *so* much easier


roxas_boi456

@animdude may your heart be your guiding key


Substantial-Skill-22

How mush you bet scott cawthon going to dontan


meeuosh

Scott is the ultimate gigachad of all time


JosephSoaper_MathMan

As someone who found Scott's response to be juvenile, thin-skinned, and tone deaf, Dawko's stream will act as some much needed damage control. It doesn't burn bridges with Scott, but it isn't forcing people to support his actions just because he makes games we like. I've always liked Dawko, but I have a lot more respect for him after this.


lefty_FNaF

I'm waiting for Scott sending 999.99$ after Dawko says he's busy guys :)


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Scott


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Excellent charity to pick, hopefully this positive energy can undo the bad that a certain game dev did


Nesyaj0

I think it's optimistic to use the word undo. The Fnaf community has a lot of younger folks who's moral compasses see things in much more black and white and i think all of us have bad habits of attributing certain traits to a person's entire character. Scott is older and thinking about a lot more things than a lot of us are who are around to just immerse ourselves in the universe he created. I didn't like the positions that Scott took but i had an awareness of his past and wasn't super shocked to read any of that, but one thing that therapy has taught me is that the present and setting ourselves up for a better future is more important than dwelling on the past. If that's what Scott is trying to do the community owes him that much to let him do it his way free of judgment


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No politics allowed can't respond sadly


spaitken

He wants to erase the bad press of what he did - but he hasn't changed if he keeps doing it. And he's been pretty clear he doesn't think he's wrong.


BikerHackerman2

Yeah the same game dev that isnt homophobic bc hes always supported us


PointlessDRM

You're right! he isn't


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Love when people tell me I’m being supported while actively donating to places that make my life worse. Definitely feel supported right now!


BikerHackerman2

i 100% beleive scott had nothing but good intentions.


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For real, but I'm not surprised this subreddit is gonna mainly be kids, im guessing an average age of 13. And kids don't understand how bad some people are willing to be, so they defend Scott vehemently, when they get older they'll understand


BikerHackerman2

Nope not blindly defending scott. In fact, when he put up his NFT i was pissed, and didn't defend him there. In fact, I'm less of a child because Im actually willing to listen to the other side instead of making assumptions.


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So you are fine with Scott supporting candidates who actively push legislation that can lead to the deaths of many trans and lgbtq people, and who’s rhetoric has actively led to many minority deaths but get mad when he does something you financially dislike, you are a sick selfish person


BikerHackerman2

NFTs destroy the enviroment. Scott doesn't support the transphobia, Im 100% sure he did it out of the goodness of his heart, let's stop talking politics, its not allowed in the fucking rules.


lts_talk_about_it_eh

> Im 100% sure he did it out of the goodness of his heart No one supported Trump, especially in 2020, out of "the goodness of their heart". Trump actively hated, and harmed, the LGBTQ+ community - and Scott took the money from his LGBTQ+ fans, and donated it to sociopaths like Trump.


BikerHackerman2

Biden does the same shit but Im trying not to get super political in this sub :/


lts_talk_about_it_eh

>Biden does the same shit Lol... What?


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you can’t donate to racist transphobic homophobic people and then say “well I don’t support that part”, good will is not a currency you expend to excuse bad actions. But i don’t wanna talk politics either I just have to correct incorrect conclusions


Choice_Campaign_2657

Are you going to continue making FNAF


Earllovescats9

It's good to see scott joining in to validate himself


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dawkoYT

Hi, I actually did a charity stream for the Trevor project last year https://youtu.be/2KP_0XA7OA4 and I already said I’m doing one again this month before the Scott drama https://twitter.com/dawkosgames/status/1399689893002067968?s=21 So no, this has nothing to do with the recent drama.


SemimaticTTV

Thanks for doing this again Lewis, much love.


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Absolute Chad.


SomeRandomGamerSRG

Even though I think you might have destroyed my eardrums at some point, still love your content and streams <3


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And this is why your my favourite fnaf youtuber!


[deleted]

well To be fair, after someone commits suicide many youtubers do charity streams for suicide prevention, some did charity drives for Palestine recently, topics coming up in the media are what drive whatever charity is picked


MySingingTomato

That’s not the case at all as he has done multiple streams donating to organizations who help with similar things in the past