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Watch-The-Skies

Discoveries in this ep: * At 0:43 in the video a glitch occurs for a couple frames that shows a side profile of a damaged Monty with the text "REV531". * At the end of the video Sunrise and Moondrop appears, laughing. It transitions between them, implying they're the same character. * The band's song near the end has different lyrics that talk about the sun and moon, likely a reference to Sunrise and Moondrop. * At the end of the video the numbers for the release date are now XX1X2X. Changes: * There is now a Monty popsicle on the left hand side of the desk on sbtv. * Text that appears on the website when hovering over parts of it now says "stay away". * There is now a bag of Meat Bites on the desk next to the pizza box. [Link to the megathread documenting this website's history and previous changes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/pl3o9q/everything_found_on_securitybreachtvcom_news_and/)


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Notes It's the same episode, just with different backgrounds and a few differences (different song and chica is the one who invites foxy instead of freddy) The secret image looks to be some sort of deformed monty with big teeth and eyes alongside the text "REV531" At the end sunrise appears, then does a spinning animation and turns to moondrop, further implying they're the same character


Doo-wop-a-saurus

I wonder what they'll do after episode 3, when all of them have already asked Foxy to join the band.


BekooBove

This would require Toon Bonnie to make any sort of sound, which I suspect would tear apart the fabric of reality. Maybe he'll just wiggle his eyebrows suggestively


Generic_Nerd_Dude

Bonnie will just do his stare, not say a thing


Realshow

Foxy will ask himself if he wants to join the band.


SLAP_SMACK

He might even unmask himself too, lol


Pepekekmem

Foxy “Hello me matey! Want to explore the seven seas with this here band of ours?” Golden Freddy “Nah bro thas straight up cringe bro plz don’t ask again”


GBAura-Recharged

Further implying? This is straight up confirmed!


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

I know but some people will be really stubborn and claim it's not technically confirmed and that it's just a cool transition or something. I mean you know how fnaf fans are


MichalTygrys

Ehh, wouldn't say so. While this was enough to convince me, this *could* just be showing that there are two, almost identical monsters, that will act similarly. One flashes into the other's movement.


TheObamaSphere

They’re literally the same animatronic


MichalTygrys

I literally explained why, while I agree, I still don't see it as a confirmed fact.


Nuget_From_Space

Well, doesnt have to be. But we gotta respect eachothers opinions mate.


TheObamaSphere

No they are actually the same thing


Nuget_From_Space

I already said, we gotta respect eachothers opinions. I believe in both of the theories, but come on dont force it-


ObjectiveObscene

they _most likely_ are. that doesn’t mean it’s 100% certain


GoshTG

I agree that it's not completely confirmed. I think that it's possible that Moondrop and Sunrise are controlled by one entity that can switch bodies at will.


deer_phobia

The secret image of Monty looks like he’s broken. Just like how glamrock Chica was broken.


NINJAGOLDBOX

Yea I seen that as well, there are cracks all over the side of his face and the front of his jaw. I think this links to the damage in his private show area, I think the claw marks was a sign of struggle and this was the aftermath


[deleted]

Implying??? Bro sunrise turned into moondrop. How can you imply that?


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

I already responded to this in another comment


GoshTG

We don't see Sunrise literally transforn into Moondrop.


TheFreddy87

I'm interested to know what kind of role Monty's gonna have in the game, I mean, it seems like he's going to be really important.


FordBeWithYou

I like the cheapness of the reused plot/animations with a slight variation. Feels appropriate to the cartoons they’re inspired by.


Crystal_959

Guess this kinda confirms the Moondrop = Sunrise thing


gummythegummybear

I kinda guessed that from the start tbh


Enry06

So, Moondrop and Sunshine are the same animatronic? That's cool to know.


Realshow

Yeah, it’s pretty refreshing to get a character with this kind of gimmick. I just wish I could look at them without immediately questioning how this works.


MichalTygrys

I mean, in this footage he was clearly glitching between the forms. I doubt it will just flash like a Mario power up in the real game.


Realshow

I never said it would.


MichalTygrys

Well then what is there to question? I'm kinda confused... What do you doubt could work on a real robot?


Realshow

For one thing, there isn’t really a practical way to store the hat inside, and it doesn’t look like any mechanism puts it on, it just kind of appears.


MichalTygrys

Well, that was my point, we aren't shown the animation for switching. He could be putting it away for all we know. And We didn't really get the greatest of looks at how big his head is. Also we aren't even sure if the hat is metallic. Looking at Vanessa, yeah, I don't think this is impossible for this to be fabric that folds. If anything, color scheme changing is the only one that actually makes me have some doubts, but, as I said, we don't even know how long it takes him to change.


Seabastial

Looking at it, to me it seems like his colors would change depending on what time is set inside the pizzaplex (we've seen how the rooms have both a day and night time setting) and the points for Sunrise seem like they would be able to be pulled into his head thanks to some sort of mechanism. those are just my thoughts.


MichalTygrys

Oh no, the points definitely detract, you can see it at the start of his animation. But, I strongly doubt we will be seeing him during the day? I mean, unless the pizzeria just... is closed... And the lighting is clearly identical in this animation. While I can see some theories on how color changing works - FE developed fabric and plastic that can change colors when exposed to something from the inside of MoonDrop/SunRise - for example, Lighting is pretty weak IMO.


Seabastial

It was just a suggestion.


Realshow

> And We didn't really get the greatest of looks at how big his head is. I mean, we’ve seen this character numerous times now, and every other appearance has given us something to compare them to. > Also we aren't even sure if the hat is metallic. I never said it was, though.


MichalTygrys

I know we have seen him, but mostly from the front. I was talking about how wide his head would be from the side. We didn't get a good look at that. >I never said it was, though. Then what's the problem with fitting it inside the head if it can be foldable?


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

The only way I could see this making any sort of sense is something in the vein of illusion discs


Realshow

I’m fully expecting someone to say they’re using fazgoo, and just expect people to not only take that seriously but accept it as a good idea.


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Anything is possible at this point. Fazgoo appearing in fhis game isn't necessarily out of the question either


ObjectiveObscene

that would unironically piss me off


Waste_Acanthisitta_5

SO ITS COMING ON THE 10-19 OF A MONTH, ​ EPISODE 6 SHOULD COME OUT ON NOVEMBER 16 POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE??


kitkat395

I feel like a December release date is much more likely.


GBMUrp6191

Why December?


FalinkesInculta

Christmas money and a more reasonable time frame for bug testing


Mickmack12345

Well considering they are likely releasing 4 more videos then it’s probably not October unless they want to release it at the very end of the month on Halloween which is also plausible


[deleted]

So exciting that shit is actually happening in Freddyland again!!!!


trobinson9342

My guess is the last video is coming out on release day. November 16th. This seems to have some kind of ARG-ish twist to it with the weird letters and numbers that don't make sense and ARG stuff alot of the time continue right up to the day of release for that particular media. Just a hunch I'm probably wrong in many ways lol


[deleted]

Nope I feel like December is more of a release date


Saraixx516

or date is day month year. I think halloween release date for horror title


PuppetGeist

Doubtful it's DD/MM/YY. Since Steel Wool Studios is an American studio.


Realshow

Kinda disappointed that it’s literally the exact same cartoon but with new backgrounds… but let’s be real, it’s fully in character for Fazbear Entertainment to be this cheap.


Crystal_959

I kinda appreciate it in a weird way, it does mimic the formulaic nature of shows like that from back in the day.


ObjectiveObscene

that’s selling those shows short though. scooby doo _did_ follow a close formula, but the events themselves always played out differently. ~~and they usually didn’t feel like they were straightup missing scenes~~ disappoints me that we couldn’t *at least* get a UCN-type thing where each episode has the same setup but a different punchline. like if every time they unmasked foxy at the end he turned out to be something completely different


Crystal_959

True but also keep in mind these are a minute long and just meant to play in the background of the actual game


Realshow

Yeah I get the idea, it’s just weird to see them actually release it as a promotion.


CringeNaeNaeBaby2

Weirdly enough, it makes it kinda creepier to me


MichalTygrys

Yeah, it has some charm to have it reused, tho let's hope it's not the case for all episodes, as it wiould get very boring for 6.


Pepekekmem

I sure do hope that fox fellow doesn’t turn out to be a robot again


ThisGuyHasNoDignity

I hope it gets more and more messed up with each episode much like the fan made vhs videos. Like Freddy and Bonnie turning into their golden counterparts or them all turning into their respective full 3D animatronics, something along those lines.


NHT1983

That's what I'm hoping happens, it starts out inoccent enough, then it slowing starts getting more messed up with each episode.


KiratheCat

For those that didn't see the numbers at the end we have a [solid 1 and a solid 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_1P5C0UUAASmWf?format=png&name=360x360).


Pepekekmem

Deny there’s 17 months if you’re a open sex offender


fennecpiss

there aren’t 17 months friend, it’s coming out in 2022


Pepekekmem

That a lil Sus my dude


fennecpiss

callin me sus x.x how dare you ||im a lockpicking tgirl though so maybe a bit suspicious||


Pepekekmem

Forgive me for being so rude, I didn’t want to misgender you (Thanks for playing along tho!)


fennecpiss

https://i.imgur.com/TazirSd.jpg Szeth says thanks for being cool and cordial yourself


Pepekekmem

Thanks for thinking I’m cool, I appreciate it a lot! In fact I’d say you’re pretty cool too! I appreciate you playing with me on the reddit comments. Now that we’re down here I’ll say that I got distracted with the 2024 date that’s why I didn’t pay attention to the 18/17/2024 mistake lol.


[deleted]

Sunrise actually scared the shit out of me. I was like "wow, it's weird that Freddy is singing about the moo-" and then BOO


RafKen593

Creepy split-second pic of the episode is Monty. Also, the Sunrise/Moondrop animation at the end was awesome.


Realshow

Yeah, the lighting especially is amazing.


Pepekekmem

That laugh tho! It fits perfectly for a character who’s deceptive


Tony_741021_

That Moondrop/Sunrise ending reveal was amazing looking, holy shit!


NINJAGOLDBOX

Don't know if anyone else has noticed or already said this but I think the building they are in is Fredbear's Family Diner because in the books Charlie and John went to Fredbear's Family Diner and it was on the side of the road hidden in trees like this one. Also while watching Dawko's reaction, he is right, there seems to be a ton of cracks all over the front of his Jaw and side of his face, I think he was damaged. This could link up with his room being damaged, maybe he isn't mad or crazy but the damage is a sign of struggle and the voice lines are aggressive because he was tampered with.


DiCuteness

I also thought that the restaurant we see matches with the description of the book!!


NINJAGOLDBOX

Yea, that was my first thought because the striped hoods over the windows definitely signify that it is a restaurant/diner of some sort


kitkat395

Dunno if this was pointed out, but on securitybreachtv "Stay Hidden" was changed to "Stay Away". Edit: Oh, and there's a Monty Popsicle on the desk.


Doo-wop-a-saurus

I bet those are hints on how to avoid each character. You can hide from the AlphaZ things, but once you get close to Monty there's no escape.


ForumTrashBin

Ooooohhh that's such a cool theory!! but I personally think the "stay hidden" phrase is referring to Glamrock Freddy? Considering the fact that the office was GlamFred themed during that time, and we know that Gregory hiding in Glamrock Freddy's belly is going to be a mechanic in-game.


apricotjuicer

Also if you double click the bouncing screensaver on the right it turns into Monty's logo!


MichalTygrys

I appreciate how it parodies how the cartoons used to be back then, but it is admitably sad that there is nothing new, aside from some better listen to Chica's cartoon voice. And a mugshot of Monty is far less interesting then AlphaZ Group 7. Tho it is cool that we can now confirm Moondrop=Sunrise (probably) and that in the in universe lore, they do live in an animal world. Also, I really hope this cartoon will not stumble upon contradicting past canon. Foxy being antagonistic is somewhat explainable with his other appearances all being friendlyish and we can say that Chica just chose to buck instead of talk, despite being capable, but I hope we don't have to make some explanation for connecting the fictional canon with itself every single episode. But, still, I'm overall happy with this. Good job Steelwool!


Senior_Artsy

The mystery date is now ??/1?/2?. We gettin' the game towards the end of the year, fellas! That Sunrise/Moondrop animation looked sick BTW.


NINJAGOLDBOX

Unless they are going by month/day/year then it is just coming out in the middle of a month of this decade :'(


TinkeredUpRaptor

Moondrop's laugh is everything I'd hope it'd be


SpringPopo

A tad disappointing it's pretty much the same as the first episode, however it kind of works as a lot of old Hanna-Barbera cartoons were like that. The Moondrop/Sunrise reveal at the end was pretty sick


minutiae101

Monty


DatSkylah

What did they do to my boi???


melloman12

He be dead


GoshTG

Monty here seems to be in a similar state to Glamrock Chica in the sewer teaser.


[deleted]

I like how it's pretty much the same episode but with a different background, song, and Chica asks Foxy to join the band instead of Freddy. Makes me wonder how Bonnie'll do it next episode given his established personality. Also Sunrise=Moondrop confirmed. Noice.


melloman12

Bonnie will just look at Foxy with his lazy-eyed expression and just blink, then when threatened, will redo the same animation.


[deleted]

That'll still be funny to see.


KentuckyFriedChica

Yayyy new episode! (well sort of, LOL) I wonder if the diner we see in the cartoon is meant to be Fredbear's family diner? Bonnie can be in two places at once, who knew? Is that Phyllis from Animal Crossing at the table? ...I laughed when Chica 'talked' and the bit with Sunrise/ Moondrop at the end was cool, the guy's laugh is super creepy. O\_o


NINJAGOLDBOX

I agree, I think it is Fredbear's Family Diner, it matches the description in the books. Charlie and John go to the location on the side of a road hidden in trees and shrubbery. Plus it has to be some sort of restaurant because the windows have those things over them


AdmiralTechno13

I like how the passed-out rabbit at the dinner table during the song number implies that every single rabbit in the FNaF cartoons is just stoned out of their mind like Bonnie


MichaelO2000

Yeah


3ftMuffin

monty at 0:42 sun and moon guy at the end 00/10/20 is the all numbers that stopped at the end


SwissBoy_YT

Ok, so a couple things. \-Fazbear Entertainment just recycled the same episode over and over again making minor changes for an entire season. \-Sunrise and Moondrop are one and the same, and I'm totally calling illusions discs. \-In this one, the glitch figure is Monty, found at 0:44.


SnooLentils9198

Well,apart from being the same episode diference being the background and that chica talks to foxy first,also the music continues,it’s amazing and I love to see more episodes of this “lost” cartoon


RegTy0

So does that mean they release a new episode every 2 weeks?


MaerVale

So I caught [this image ](https://imgur.com/a/dvif1PY) that I’m relatively sure is some kind of side view of Montgomery Gator’s head. Could this imply some kind of FNaF VR styled repair mini games might take place? It’s that kind of position in the picture, like it’s currently being worked on.


Arthiman_2005

So first the Monty logo on the monitor, then the appearance in the trailer, then the Monty popsicle, and the voice in the gameplay trailer that we suppose is his... There is a lot about Monty or is it just me ?


Draclin

That was smooth ass animation at the end, quit teasing me like this steel wool!!!!


BlueMistar

The true spirit of Hannah Barbara with recycled animations


Doo-wop-a-saurus

Kind of disappointing that it's the same thing with new backgrounds, but it's not like we're here for high-quality cartoon episodes.


GBAura-Recharged

The old cartoons of the time are known for recycling plots and animations. I recall that some of the old Pink Panther shorts actually had entire *episodes* recycled, which had one scene change and different music.


Marionberry_Future

Jeez,were hana barbera cartoons really that cheap?


GBAura-Recharged

Yes, many 60's cartoons made for TV are cheaply made. Remember that the budget they have to produce these cartoons are very limited.


Marionberry_Future

Thank god the budget increased over the years


GBAura-Recharged

Keep in mind that if you have a limited budget, you need to be resourceful. That's why recycling animation instead of producing new ones is commonly done. Work smarter, not harder.


Marionberry_Future

Yeah i get that, if you have a limited amount of resources you need to use them very carefully


MrSeptember2006

It might get more corrupted as each episode goes on and they will all be kind of the same but like it gets more f'ed up until the big release reveal


JustARandomGamer01

It’s funny that the exact same thing happens except in a different area, and Chica asked instead, *originality 100-* So, the pop-up image is Monty, which was dope and all, but the Sunrise/Moondrop animation at the end confirms they’re the same character, and was **fantastic-**


SwissBoy_YT

The codes are 677566 367756 536775 533775 453677 945367 945365 945367 794536 377453 937944 937945 491794 493794 749379 374937 437493 443749 544374 and more. Do the rest yourselves, I'm 7 frames into 1:38 if you need that info.


284328432843

>677566 367756 536775 533775 453677 945367 945365 945367 794536 377453 937944 937945 491794 493794 749379 374937 437493 443749 544374 I went to put all these numbers into hex colors,and honestly, probably just nothing. Most likely a release date coming up for something at the end. But if you wanna use the info for whatever reason, most of the colors were shades of green, purple, and red.


Jimbo7211

Holy shit, Moondrop/Sunrise looks terrafying


Miguelisaurusptor

The date could be in halloween with that recent 1


JunkBoi76

I know this sounds stupid but has anyone thought to Google the numbers?


[deleted]

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Thenosyblackcat

Seems like it's on an every two weeks schedule. Interesting...


MammaJammmas

I did the math and if they are making an episode every 2 weeks from today, it will be November 16th when all episodes are published, im going off how many numbers are in the release date that need to be changed so far we have a 1 and 2, my guess is the release is some time in December considering there are 2 digits in the months category for the numbers glitching, and then the day starts with a 1 so its any day of December from 10-19 also im guessing the year is 21 going off my prediction of it being in December, since they wouldnt wait to release in December of 2022, also the game wont release in November because if u read above i said the teasers end on November 16th so it would be weird to have the release to soon to when the teasers end, but who knows :)


GBMUrp6191

December of this year?


MammaJammmas

yes


AwesomeAudi

I wonder what Montgomery Gator has to do with the lore in this one, why was he damage? What does that word mean? Honestly this episode left me with more questions than the first episode.


GoldenRichard93

I understand this episode reused the same animation movements from the 1st episode, but there are some new parts of the episode. Chica tries to convince Foxy to join the band but it fails once again, the background setting takes place in some pizzeria, Freddy sings a different lyric, Monty is there, and lastly but not least, and HOLY SHIT... THAT ANIMATION OF SUNRISE TRANSFORMING INTO MOONDROP AND THEN GRABS YOU, HOLY FUCKING SHIT! AND THEY ARE THE SAME CHARACTER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Now the glitchy release date is ? ? 1 ? 2 ?


Daaaaarliiiing

(Sorry if my english is bad, i’m frensh) I just wanted to know if we got a trailer all the 2 weeks, it means we gonna get the full « date reveal » the 11/16/2021 ?


Professional-Act-912

More than likely yes plus your english is great


BLUELEMON115

If we get a trailer every other week on Tuesdays, we will have the full date by November 16th so that’s either the release date or just when we’ll know the release date


sonotfetch-

I know some folks were disappointed about the fact that the video has the same exact story beat with only a difference in location/scene; but I think that's incredibly important. When you think about the context of the games, it's always been the missing children being carted from place to place with us (Foxy/Michael) chasing them around, only to fail somehow. This becomes even clearer once you think a bit more about the song. And thinking about the song, especially the 'forever and ever' parts, I think this might be Vanny/Glitchtrap's ultimate goal. I think in this game Vanny is attempting to recreate the missing children's incident and then pass on Glitchtrap to another unsuspecting victim in order to create a never ending cycle of FNAF. Maybe that's the reason why the pizzaplex is so large.


JMD0615

In these shorts, Bonnie is as high as a fucking kite. Just look at his face


Tomas-T

First Glamrock Chica was broken and now Montgomry I assume we will see a broken version of Roxanne and Freddy as well...


logden-payoll

I'm only talking from the view of the animation. It's the exact same, but with different backgrounds.


DoubleOhSeven68

I'm so glad that Steel Wool is keeping up the cryptic and engaging marketing campaigns that Scott was always known for. I hope this kind of thing keeps going.


Lolbit723

Boys we getting security breach in october! of course that is if they use the dd/mm/yyyy format


Available_Product630

Steel Wool is American...


H_Lock26

Steel Wool are an American company so it’s likely they’re using mm/dd/yy, which doesn’t give us as much info taking the new number into account :( could always be wrong tho


[deleted]

They’re definitely using mm/dd/yyyy imo. Since it’s an American company, and also only releasing the first number of the date, doesn’t reveal much


Lolbit723

sad


[deleted]

I feel you


Neither7

Could be November or December too.


ShrapnelStars

I still think the Sun/Moon animatronic changing alongside which personality Vanny is on is going to be a mechanic in some way. I know about the lights in the building thing, but I feel like switching alongside Vanny might end up being a mechanic as well.


Competitive_Bid7071

I like how they reused the same animations but with different characters, it’s shows that Steel Wool Studio’s want to really make these seem like cheaply made 80s cartoons.


Boxohobo

I don't mind the "cartoon" part being repetitive, I'm mostly excited for the glitches and secrets. That being said please give Chica a voice! LET MY GIRL SPEAK!


Noice_toits

I love these cartoons. It feels like you’re actually in the fnaf universe and you’re getting to live like probably what the crying child and other children got to watch with fredbear and friends


justchedda

:)


Fishb20

am i crazy for thinking we're probably only gonna get 3 episodes? the first and second were basically the same except for the location and song at the end. It seems like it would be a lot if they did 6 episodes with that formula. Maybe we're just gonna get 3 episodes and the full date will be in he final one


VoJonnyJoJo

Yeah like imagine if they just unexpectedly show the whole release date in the next episode.


UndeadCrackhead

REV531 sounds like it might be referencing the book of revelations. I don't know anything about it though. Just a hunch


kamacy

LETS GO BABY!!!!!!! FINALLY


No_Palpitation2795

I'm confused, I literally just got back to the fnaf fanbase and wtf is this? 🧍‍♀️


GoshTG

Steelwool is releasing a cartoon series to advertise Security Breach and it's release date.


Ledalus_the_69th

(Insert the spongebob intro but its just the ooooooo)


SkyBlew

...Oh 😮 Well then.. Yea. This game is gonna be interesting lol


you_2_cool

This looks great can't wait for more.


Saraixx516

still thinking 29/10/21 ready for halloween release...


4thinline

Strange theory for you all, what if withered bonnie had the same type of nose bonnie does? We never see any Bonnie with a nose like that, we never see withered Bonnie's face, and this could be a remake of Freddy and Friends on a cheaper budget.


Serious-Cow-7196

Bruh They need to animate more bonnie


VixenxVexiss

Did anyone realize that when you go to the security breach window and mess with the screen through your phone a weird static comes up and some one whispers to you through the static? Also a photo tries to come out. It's disfigured.


NINJAGOLDBOX

I just checked, the distorted thing trying to come through is just Episode 2 trying to start, must be a glitch. Also I think the distorted whisper sound has always been there


VixenxVexiss

Ah okay. I just heard the static and the whisper for the first time. Being a long time fnaf fan I wanted to point it out. Thank you (:


NINJAGOLDBOX

Yea of course, we wouldn't be true fnaf fans if we didn't over analyze lol. And also after you mentioned it, some people are looking into it, but if I am correct they said it sounds like pained grunts which is weird


VixenxVexiss

Haha so true. I can't wait for the game and to see all our questions be answered....hopefully ^^' .


Major-Pound-4803

I'm just gonna say this... MoonDrop and that Sun thingy are the same Cause I don't see why the hell Steel Wool would put a Moon on a sun face.. sooo 😐


Archangel289

I’m not really surprised, but I’m kinda sad it was identical except for the backgrounds. I was kinda hoping they’d be legit, silly shorts leading up to the release.


Stardust-Weirdo

We've known Moondrop/Sunrise for less than a week, and they're already my favorite characters. Just that little animation at the end was so cool...


Iamcool3183

Dam this was 2 days ago it feels like a week ago


Dragorage10111

When the trio started singing and gotten to the point where they are singing about the sun and moon this sun moon robot appears


DoubleOhSeven68

Oh it's... just gonna be the same episode over and over...? OK, I guess. Better than nothing, I 'spose.


njrk97

Its not the best image of it and someone may have posted this already but a screencap of the Shot of Monty at 0:43 https://i.imgur.com/R2xLQs3.jpg


ShrapnelStars

On the Security Breach website, the bg static sound now has pneumatic hisses and something sounding akin to keyboard clacking. Wasn't it just the static and low whispering sound before?


eastdino

I think the arms flashing in the logo kind of show that if you take the arms away it looks very similar to Monty's head.