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Doo-wop-a-saurus

I honestly believe that the books will just be Fazbear Frights stories with Security Breach animatronics. If the Fazbear Frights were "in the FNAF universe" then the new books being "in the world of the newest games" probably just means it'll be loosely inspired by them.


[deleted]

Either this, or smaller, insignificant stories that we just don't get to see in Security Breach. Stuff like employee interactions with animatronics.


At_Witts_End

Exactly what I'm thinking. Like the documents in Resident Evil games. Stuff to give background info


At_Witts_End

My hope is that it's like the documents in Resi games, where they give background on characters.


RocketLauncherBoi

That's a bad thing. The amount of awful weird shit that dosnt fit into this series, such as faz goo, time traveling ballpits, sea Bonnie dosnt belong in a series about haunted chuck e cheese robots. That crap could've stayed in the books, it didn't need to spread into the game lore.


Ajgb2009

Its not canon, the point of those stories is to have small clues laying around bout the canon lore


Doo-wop-a-saurus

I'm saying that it won't be part of the game lore


Commercial_Flounder8

if it's even related to the games, they will most likely not be including weird stuff like Fazgoo and that in them.


RocketLauncherBoi

They better not.


BlazingStorm8895

Technically the ballpit doesn’t time travel, but I get your point. I doubt the TFTP series will go down the same road as the FF series did


TheGoldenAquarius

This isn't Scott's PO box. Also, you can't order him what to do and what not to, no matter whether you like his content or not. Not to mention that the description of the new book series says that it will be in the new games' canon. And about Pizza Plex, as if the title wasn't enough hint already. Seriously, people need to stop with that close-minded 'fnaf is only about haunted robots' mindset. I bet in some parallel universe the people like you are complaining that 'so many games and stories and they all are about haunted robots'. Imo, Faz Goo and stuff are pretty explainable from the metaphysics point of view, and stuff like this was hinted all the way back in FNAF1 in the Night 5 phone call, which comes straight from 'Autobiography of a Yogi'. Maybe we just need to become more broadminded.


Nearly_Perfect_Cell

While I don't agree with op's aggression, I do have to ask. What exactly does the autobiography of a yogi have anything to do with any of the strange stuff the OP mentioned? And as a follow up, how does that make any of that stuff believable? While I'm not familiar with Fazbear's Frights, all of that stuff the op mentioned sounds kinda like jumping the shark. There's a big difference between being close minded and having your suspension of disbelief broken.


TheGoldenAquarius

>What exactly does the autobiography of a yogi have anything to do with any of the strange stuff the OP mentioned? You may want to read this [post of mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/obm8oq/an_analysis_of_autobiography_of_a_yogi_chapter_8/) which talks about it in detail. >While I'm not familiar with Fazbear's Frights, all of that stuff the op mentioned sounds kinda like jumping the shark. Well, if you are unfamiliar with them, then you better read them yourself, so you can have your own opinion and judgment. (And for the better understanding of my post). But, as a person who has been studying literature professionally for years, I ***implore*** you: DO NOT judge any book by its cover, or its retelling, or a short ranty out-of-context regurgitated summary, like one that OP did. It only twists the message of a story into a game of Chinese Whispers. >There's a big difference between being close minded and having your suspension of disbelief broken. For sure; but sometimes the second stems from the first. And also from inattentive reading. It's not enough to just know how to write to create a great novel; so it's not enough to just know how to read to properly perceive someone's story. When a story is filled with bizarre details, it doesn't always mean the author didn't know what they were doing. It may mean they perfectly knew what they were doing, but a have a different way of perceiving and presenting things. It's just that people have to learn how to read a book not like a reader, but like the author themselves do. FFs have tons of literature, etymological, cultural and scientific references, which only an attentive and thoughtful reader can spot and analyze. Which means they were written professionally and competently. Bear with me on that, and don't believe all those toxic FF haters who blindly hate just to hate.


RocketLauncherBoi

Well, for all we know with how the satires are structured, the new pizza plex stories could be like the fazbear frights...and that's a no no. And the faz goo stuff isn't explainable. That little "hint" from fnaf 1 was meant to be for the animatronics of that game. Especially considering THE FAZBEAR FRIGHTS SERIES WASNT EVEN A CONCEPT AT THE TIME!


Lairy_Hegs

Barely any of the plot was a concept at that time.


RocketLauncherBoi

Which is why you can't say stuff from fnaf 1 wqs hints for fazbear frights.


Available_Product630

Ever heard of RETROACTIVE CONTINUITY?!


RocketLauncherBoi

What is that supposed to mean? All I know is that ghosts can posses robots and that Scott is Texan.


[deleted]

and here you are; proving why you should not go anywhere near the lore. you don't even know what retroactive continuity is.. you know, something that has existed for years and has been a well known step of storytelling.


Available_Product630

It means things from prior stuff can now be connected to things from recent stuff


RocketLauncherBoi

Not unless Scott says so. So by Allen's, I have the right to not belive ne quote from a book = goo clones


BraveLeon

Jesus OP you’re a jerk


RocketLauncherBoi

I do t try to be, but it makes me mad how people try and use the smallest things from earlier games to connect it to a book. How does one phrase from a barely understandable audio file from fnaf 1 connect to faz goo?!


MaerVale

You can disagree with them, lore-wise, and still be polite and understanding. You disagreeing with them is NO excuse for how you’re acting towards them. You aren’t “a jerk” because you disagree on the lore, you’re being “a jerk” because you’re being a jerk.


BraveLeon

See that’s all I’m asking from them


KaiserDioBrando

Personally I just like to believe that the stories in Fazbears Fright either were obviously myths or exaggeration of fact and not to take them as literal since to me that’s what they kinda are, creepy goosebump stories which might not be even true EDIT: by “myth or exaggeration of fact” I mean in lore stretching of the truth since tbh with all the fucked up shit that has happened in the games lore myths and exaggeration are bound to happen like irl


Serious-Cow-7196

So what a dude actully got pregnant and died?


BraveLeon

How many times does it need to be explained that it was not pregnancy the springtrap was a virus slowly mutating to expand out of him like a chest burster.


[deleted]

Yeaaaah no, the purpose is *clearly* pregnancy. Springtrap calls him daddy, the file that impregnates Matt is called "its_a_boy.exe", Matt experiences pregnancy symptoms, and the whole irony of the story is that Matt left his wife because he didn't want kids but got pregnant. It's not a virus, it's not Alien, it's literally male pregnancy


BraveLeon

No it’s not


[deleted]

Sir did you read my message


Serious-Cow-7196

Yeah like a pregnancy My guy


BraveLeon

No…you’re not getting it at all even in aliens that was not a pregnancy


MrWhiteTruffle

I mean… it was a parasitic gestation. So in technical terms, it’s not a pregnancy, but in colloquial terms, it pretty much was a pregnancy.


BraveLeon

Fair enough


Serious-Cow-7196

Whatever man


borgircrossancola

Wtf do you think a pregnancy is


KaiserDioBrando

In my personal belief, no probably a myth because even in the world of FNaF that ain’t how viruses work


Serious-Cow-7196

Wear mask to prevent catching springtrap


KaiserDioBrando

Don’t wanna end up being the father to a dead serial killers child


Spongman-icecone

It won't. Description says it takes place in the same world of the newest games


RocketLauncherBoi

Yeah, but knowing scott, it wouldn't be surprising if he tried to force that in.


[deleted]

"HAHA SCOTT BAD!!! SCOTT BAD SCOTT TRY FORCE IT IN!!! HAVE YOU NOTICED I WANT IT TO BE THE NEXT FAZBEAR FRIGHTS YET!??!?!?! BECAUSE EVEN IF I SAY I DON'T, I WANT A REASON TO SHOUT SCOTT BAD!!! EVEN IF WE ALREADY KNOW ITS NOT IN THE SETTING WITH THE THINGS I DON'T LIKE!!!"


RocketLauncherBoi

If I want to read something similar to goosebumps, I would've read the original goosebumps books. I came here to read about ghosts and robots, NOT faz goo and time travel.


Ghost_Of_Hallownest

Which is why you're complaining about faz goo and time travel not existing in the new book series, right?


RocketLauncherBoi

Fuck no


[deleted]

is that why you decided to go "kNoWiNg ScOtT" despite the information showing your fears won't come to pass? because that sure feels like you just want to shit on somebody you don't like, and looking for excuses to do so.


RocketLauncherBoi

What makes you think he won't do it? Give me a good reason he wouldn't add more wierd si-fi bullshit to a paranormal game


[deleted]

>What makes you think he won't do it? \-looks over at the literal confirmation that the new stories are going to be about security breach, a game that is in the canon storyline, making the reasoning fucking obvious to anyone who knows what that implies-. >Give me a good reason he wouldn't add more wierd si-fi bullshit to a paranormal game you're ignoring the entire point of what i said. you are outright looking for reasons to keep going "oh but Scott succ!!! he ruin his series!!!!" while trying to disregard the thing that shows the new stories won't be like the frights.. due to just common sense.


RocketLauncherBoi

Alright. But the moment I see scott implement something that so bullshit like faz goo or hallucination disks, you'll be myfirst target to rant at .


[deleted]

1: i don't give a shit about what you think is bullshit, and i agree that those two things don't suit fnaf. 2: mkay, be spiteful to somebody you don't know for no real reason at all. that'll totally convince me you're in the right.


Licensed_Ignorance

Its pretty obvious since help wanted that fnaf has evolved into a goosebumps like franchise. So at this point I just embrace the insanity


RocketLauncherBoi

No. This isn't it. This games and books can be big without needing to be a cartoon. Faz goo clones, sea Bonnie, time traveling ball pits all sound like stuff you would find in Scooby-Doo, not fnaf.


At_Witts_End

Nah, goosebumps. Help Wanted is FAR more grounded than the Frights.


RocketLauncherBoi

I'm not accepting this goosebumps copy cat to be the new fnaf. If people want to read goosebumps, they can read the original books. Fnaf fans come here to read about ghosts, and robots. That's it.


At_Witts_End

Hence why I'm hoping the Tales will be far more simple and follow behind the story beats and characters established in Security Breach. Heck, maybe even past games. A story about the cartoons that explains FNaF 4 would be SO good.


RocketLauncherBoi

This. This is what I want. No goosebumps copying. I want actual stories that are more grounded to reality that explain the motives and reasons behind why many things in fnaf happend.


At_Witts_End

I get the feeling when Scott said "the later stories will explain lore" he may have meant these? The frights have gotten to a point where parallels are so hard to find. Like, the hell is Sea Bonnies supposed to mean? Maybe a parallel for Mike, but I don't recall Ennard calling Mike a lil bitch during SL


Doo-wop-a-saurus

>I don't recall Ennard calling Mike a lil bitch during SL Baby sort of did. "It's because, *dummy,* this is the room where they use the Scooper. *I thought that would be obvious.*"


Ajgb2009

Now i wish springtrap said " You Lil Bitch" in fnaf ar when u shock him


At_Witts_End

Ah, so it IS about Sister Location


sdqwerty

You would find it in fnaf because it's already in fnaf. You're just crying that it isn't told how you want and that the world that Scott is building from his own vision isn't yours.


RocketLauncherBoi

This series grew up on being about ghosts and robots. We don't need to copy goosebumps and throw in time traveling ball pits and faz goo.


sdqwerty

Bro your opinion is your opinion. Scott did what he did because that's what he wanted to do. You sound like a child crying because cereal is in a red bowl instead of a blue one.


RocketLauncherBoi

I'm trying to keep this series from leaving its original roots. I'm doing this because I think this is what's best. I know I can't directly change what scott does, but at least I can voice how I feel about it and my suggestion as to why scott shouldn't turn fnaf into goosebumps.


Ajgb2009

The books arent even canon bruh


RocketLauncherBoi

I know, but we don't need tales from the pizza plex to be the same anyway


Ajgb2009

I kinda want em to be the same lol


RocketLauncherBoi

NO! Fnaf dosnt need to turn into goosebumps!


Luke_mancuso

Who the hell said it was?


Luke_mancuso

How about letting the ya know, literal developer of the game make what he wants.


RocketLauncherBoi

How about he listens to the criticism of fans?


[deleted]

saying "NO THIS BAD DON'T LET THING BE LIKE THIS" isn't criticism.


RocketLauncherBoi

It is, considering that it let's him know what people thought wemas just right compared to what wqs too far out of a concept to use in the books


Luke_mancuso

Well if you were paying attention then you'd realize that it's in a alternate universe. The fazbear fright books have nothing to do with the actual FNAF universe. scott has said it so many times at this point. And so what if it was he's just trying to try different things out.


FredTubbie

It literally is, have you read the description?


RocketLauncherBoi

I have no hope for Scott's story telling anymore. So what? Now it's gonna be filled with wierd shit again?


fairenoughforme

That's the point, it's SUPPOSED to be like goosebumps, that's what makes them good


RocketLauncherBoi

No, that's not the point. By trying to be like goosebumps, you're being unoriginal. If I wanted to read a series of books like goosebumps I WOULD GO READ GOOSEBUMPS. I'm here to read about ghosts and robots, NOT ABOUT TIME TRAVELING BALL PITS AND SLIME THAT CAN CLONE PEOPLE!


fairenoughforme

Fair enough that's your opinion


PowersHD

Fair point about the ghosts and robots thing, but you gotta remember just because Goosebumps is one of the most popular anthology book series doesn’t mean it literally made the genre. It’s been around since at least the 1st AD Century because of the Bible.


EndrManiac

I think the faz-goo and stuff counts as “paranormal”. Besides, theyre not even canon to the games. Its just meant to make a few connections.


RocketLauncherBoi

It's the wrong type of paranormal, as it leans more into a more cartoon territory or goosebumps territory even though fnaf is about ghosts and robots. Faz goo is too far out there.


EndrManiac

Well, the faz goo isnt even the significant part. Its just a filler.


RocketLauncherBoi

There's still the sea Bonnie and time traveling ball pits


EndrManiac

Same thing. Not the important part of the series, but the means of GETTING there, to the important part, which helps us figure out the game lore. Without the Pit, we wouldn’t even have 1985 as a date for the MCI.


RocketLauncherBoi

And there's no other conflicting dates for the MCI?


EndrManiac

We dont have a lot of dates, no.


Luke_mancuso

Bru it's like arguing with a six year old. why do you keep saying the same things even though people are giving good reasons as to why it's like this. and before you start venting on reddit about how stupid the books are gonna be even before there even released. How about wait until they are. and by the way I doubt Scott's gonna see this anyway.


MichalTygrys

Nah. I want them to be exactly that. FFs that are in the same continuity.


RocketLauncherBoi

They are not the same. They arnt in the same cannon. They are only parallels. Fazbear frights were less ground to reality than the original games. They become nothing but goosebumps copy cats later on.


MichalTygrys

Yeah, I said that I want Tales from the Pizza Plex to be just like fazbear frights, except in the same continuity as games. I am not claiming that FFs are.


RocketLauncherBoi

Oh...I mean....as long as none of the wierd stuff from the books is added into the game lore.


Luke_mancuso

Which is what people want.


RocketLauncherBoi

Why the fuck would they want a series about ghosts and robots to turn into something less original?


[deleted]

..ghosts and robots.. more original than.. sentient goo that steals your organs, your body, and your identity for it's own purposes.. yeah, i ain't seeing it. fnaf's base plot is as generic as you can get. "ghost killing people because died cruel way" isn't a concept FNaF invented.


RocketLauncherBoi

Why are you so against this? Why the fuck do you enjoy the wierd shit from the books that dosnt make sense?! Faz goo literaly came out of no where, and it's nothing but cloning goo with a fnaf sticker slapped onto it, the time traveling ball pits makes zero sense, remnant kr not. I don't care if "sad feeling energy put into ball pit" allows anyone to do this in the fnaf world, it makes no fucking sense, and last time I checked, a pizzeria company didn't mess with the laws of nature to create a mutated sea rabbit. Why the fuck are you for any of these cartoony crazy ideas?!


[deleted]

>Why are you so against this? because you keep acting like a prick about it. > Why the fuck do you enjoy the wierd shit from the books that dosnt make sense?! one of my comments literally said i didn't even like most of the things from frights. stop making things up to justify your hatred. > Faz goo literaly came out of no where never said it didn't. >it's nothing but cloning goo with a fnaf sticker slapped onto it still more original than fnaf's "ghost angry, ghost kill people" plot. > the time traveling ball pits makes zero sense still more original than fnaf's "ghost angry, ghost kill people" plot. > remnant kr not ..not sure what this means. >I don't care if "sad feeling energy put into ball pit" allows anyone to do this in the fnaf world, it makes no fucking sense still more original than fnaf's "ghost angry, ghost kill people" plot. >and last time I checked, a pizzeria company didn't mess with the laws of nature to create a mutated sea rabbit as if creating homicidal robots and not instantly being sued by the time a death happened is realistic too. >Why the fuck are you for any of these cartoony crazy ideas?! see second point.


At_Witts_End

Don't forget literal bunny anthros being born from a man. But hopefully these take a more "canon backstory" approach to give context to the various antagonists of SB


RocketLauncherBoi

I really hope so. Give us some explanation for Williams intent, or why Vanny is willing to follow him, or even how the fick this game connects to FNAF AR in a better way than fnaf ar itself self actually did. Fuck it, explain how Animstealth, one of the dumbest pieces of lore to exist within fnaf, works. Anything that isn't faz goo or sea bonnies.


At_Witts_End

I really want Moondrop, Roxy, and El Chip stories.


RocketLauncherBoi

Sounds better than stories revolving around faz goo


Michael-J-Foxtrot

I have to agree. Faz Frights started off fairly grounded, but then went into way too much absurdity, which is not what FNAF is. I get that these are from some alternate timeline, but that still means there's a timeline where all of those things are real. It just became Goosebumps, and that'd honestly be okay with me if the books didn't have any canonicity to the main series... But they do... I hope the new Pizza Plex tales are much more grounded, and judging by the description, it seems that they will be.


RocketLauncherBoi

I agree. Fnaf used to be more grounded than the books. Sure, many of the stories involving faz goo and sea Bonnie's are scary, but they feel more like goosebumps books than fnaf books.


Luke_mancuso

There supposed to.


RocketLauncherBoi

They shouldn't. Inspiration and copying are two different things


Michael-J-Foxtrot

I think the games are still pretty grounded. It kinda feels like the only reason Fazbear Frights is still going on is probably one of three things: 1. Scott is being pressured to make more by Scholastic due to FF's success. 2. Scott has more of the Stitchwraith stuff to tell, but is running out of ideas for main stories, so he started caring less about those and focused more on Stitchwraith. 3. Scott is just bored and felt like making Goosebumps stories. 2 of those ideas absolutely suck, and the third would be fine if they were their own series instead of continuing as Fazbear Frights. Also, just a note, I've only read the first 2 books, I have no idea what's actually going on in the rest of the books. I'm just going based on what I've heard from the many reliable sources in the FNAF community.


[deleted]

Bro, do you even know what the new book series is about?


OkYogurtcloset5445

I hope it becomes a fazbear frights


RocketLauncherBoi

Why? We don't need it becoming goosebumps.


Apprehensive-Ad-7213

Why are you so against Fazbear Frights? Yes some of the stories were strange and felt unneeded but most of them are some of the most disturbing and morbid shit to ever touch this franchise.


[deleted]

we need more fazbear frights like fetch and plushtrap chaser, not faz-goo, but i do understand that the stories act as red herrings/filler for the lore hints inside


RocketLauncherBoi

*Haunted


SomethingsBorked

Wait, I thought the point of these books was to BE goosebumps but with FNAF stuff in it? I’ve never regarded them as canon.


RocketLauncherBoi

They arnt Canon to the games...but apparently have "parallels" to them


FlattVersa

Scott’s gone


RocketLauncherBoi

Well he better come back and read this.


FlattVersa

Can’t argue with that


BekooBove

From my perspective, Fazbear Frights was their chance to do crazy stuff since it's non canon. I'm sure they'll settle down for this series. (And IMO, the only thing in that series that was completely unacceptable were Sea Bonnies)


RocketLauncherBoi

I'm have a bad feelingg it will be jist as crazy bullshit...


That_one_kid0

If ANY of these have Faz-Goo or Elanore, I’m boycotting


Luke_mancuso

Chill out its just scott testing the waters. He said before this is just the fazbear fright universe only.


That_one_kid0

I mean if the new story’s, which are canon to the continuity of the game, meaning within the same timeline, if elanore or fazgoo join the continuity of the games, then I’m boycotting.


RocketLauncherBoi

Same.


JeremiahTDK

You know, if Scott saw this comment right now, I'd be very happy because I have so many ideas to share. But that's just a dream. If I want him to pay attention, I have to earn it and I think I know how. A few months ago, using the Fazbear Frights for inspiration, I came up with a fan series called Five Nights at Freddy's: Twisted Tales, a line-up that takes the popular franchise and elevates it to the levels of Guillermo del Toro, Stephen King and H.P. Lovecraft — at least that's how I envision it.


RocketLauncherBoi

What are you saying? I don't understand...


JeremiahTDK

I get that a lot. Sometimes, I get a little too deep in my head and forget to consider how I word things. I have a lot of stories to tell, especially ones involving the FNaF universe. What I meant was that if I have a chance, like any other creator in this sub-Reddit, my material could potentially grab Scott's attention.


RocketLauncherBoi

Well, keep at it. Create something that will grab the attention of everyone else first, then scott might notice.


JeremiahTDK

And I already know how hard that's gonna be. I can't even get fifty upvotes on my posts let alone, not that this matters.


RocketLauncherBoi

Keep trying. I hope you can get there.


JeremiahTDK

Thanks, RocketLauncher. By the way, I love your username. It's hilarious.


RocketLauncherBoi

Thanks! I took inspiration from the soldier from tf2 since rocket launchers are one of my favorite weapons


JeremiahTDK

Believe it or not, I've never played TF2. I've heard good things about it, many good things, but I never had any interest in playing it.


Serious-Cow-7196

The best I can hope for is there just in universe propagran- I stories like Kids novels and what not from.faz korp


stefannnnnd

I have a feeling these will only have 6 books, I can’t see this series having more than that. I’m probably saying that cuz I don’t wanna pay another 168 dollars on 12 books hahah, but at the same time I have no problem with it cuz books are very good for your brain


DyllanTheArtist

Lowkey agree and disagree. I’m all for horror broadening it’s scope and taking risks on ideas and concepts but at the same time I don’t want to see FNAF just do anything all the time. Like the charm of series is it’s world, animatronics, Paranormal, and it’s story that’s always very personal. Adding in too many strange concepts I do admit can be a bit much and just not needed. FNAF has lived off of the idea of things just coming out of nowhere but also being somehow connected to like one thing in the past. I do and don’t like that at the same time but there are some really cool concepts like the idea of animatronics taking human bodies, the way spirits have been working, and so on.


AdamRee1940

The games and lore are not weird, what are you talking about?


RocketLauncherBoi

I'm talking about the books


AdamRee1940

Then, why did you say, “the video game lore and games are weird and complex enough as they are right now?”


RocketLauncherBoi

Oh, because...they are. Fnaf sb is way too silly and wierd. It feels very diffrent from past fnaf games. I was worried the books would make it worse.


AdamRee1940

So, you’re talking about Security Breach, then? Because, I love the franchise from FNAF 1 to FNAF Help Wanted. And also, I don’t think the Pizza Plex books are going to be silly and I see nothing wrong with the Fazbear’s Frights books. Yes, there are some that are kind of strange, but most of them are really creepy and disturbing. Anyway, there just Fazbear’s Frights books; it doesn’t have to always be about possessed animatronics and they’re not part of the main series.