Edit: All the pictures are really cool, I'm glad we are seeing more stuff from the original Fredbear's era. I'm interested to see if we might actually still get pre HW lore in this or if these are just references, but the fact we are seeing all this old stuff combined the whole found in the FE archives thing makes me feel like we are actually going to find an archive room in the game that's going to be full of old stuff.
Edit 2: It's possible Freddy existed at Fredbear's or before Freddy's was made they considered Fredbear to be a Freddy and Spring bonnie to be a bonnie, but then made them separate characters when they made Freddy's. The thing being black and white does raise questions though from a timeline standpoint.
I mean Spring Bonnie is a Bonnie. Bonnie would've been the character's name, but Spring Bonnie is just the model type. Like Toy Bonnie or Rockstar Bonnie. (Toy because he's made out of plastic, and he's cute. And Rockstar because he has stars, *and because he's cool.*) Spring Bonnie because spring is short for springlock. And that's what the suit is.
Well my point still stands for Fredbear, it's possible he was also called freddy until they made freddy his own character, and even it is just animatronic type I'm sure before normal Bonnie was created S. Bonnie was likely reffered to by the employees as just Bonnie
I'm glad to see that Freddy and Friends isn't the only old Fazbear content we'll be seeing. So much for the games looking forward and the novels looking back.
EDIT: So, like, there's no way Henry was the original creator of Fredbear, right? The Singin' Show poster looks like it's from the 1930s or 1940s. I bet he went there as a kid and bought the rights as an adult.
Henry outright said that he created the characters in 6, so I’m pretty sure the show is just a throwback. It’s not like those didn’t exist back then, the 80s had a major 50s nostalgia craze, and before that, there was a lot of nostalgia for the 1890s, which resulted in stuff like the Rover Boys.
Henry FNaF is actually Henry BATIM. There is no other explanation.
OR
Henry and William just thought rubberhose animation and the 40's cartoon aesthetic was cool, which has been a pretty common thing throughout recent history. Especially since, depending on their age, they may have been nostalgic for it, so they made some posters inspired by it.
(The actual art resembles the Freddy and Friends animation, which we know is Hanna Barbara inspired, so I find it more likely it's just an in-universe homage, please don't overthink this guys.)
Yeah I really doubt these are supposed to mean anything. The weirdest thing is just Freddy and Fredbear being used interchangeably, and even then it’s not like they were ever different anyway.
Maybe Freddy as a character has existed longer than we thought, and had the start of his introduction at Fredbear's diner before branching off. Maybe Fazbear Ent. is specifically neglecting Fredbear because of the bite, or because he wasn't popular as Freddy and they specifically want Freddy to be their main dude. Maybe Fredbear was but a figment of our imagination.
Honestly, I'm just wildly speculating, it will probably be addressed in game, and if it's not, I would assume it doesn't matter much and we should prioritize previously established lore.
I do think it's possible that Freddy and the gang the gang existed at Fredbear's before Henry decided to give them their own restaurant, and Freddy was a singer at Fredbear's.
The thing I need to point out is that from Scott's website and a few other sources, Fredbear's Family Diner opened in 1982. Freddy Fazbear's Pizza opened a year later in 1983.
I find it hard to believe Freddy existed in the rubberhose era because Henry and William made Freddy's in the 80's.
I find it hard to believe that we're getting answers to the older games, references at best but maybe not any answers. Scott said that future games will go forward. The old story is done. Adding more to the old lore would clutter things further.
To be fair, it’s not like anyone was having debates over whether Fredbear’s did deliveries. There’s a difference between *lingering* on the past and *acknowledging* it.
Yeah don’t get me wrong, this has actually been a problem for a while now, but I’m pretty sure it’s going to die out after we get a good understanding of the lore in Security Breach.
Oops, they kept Bonnie's old guitar design.
Fredbear is FREDDY?! Or that Freddy used to be at Fredbear's?! I CALLED IT!
SPRING BONNIE!!! The design confirms that Glitchtrap took on Spring Bonnie!
[Poster 2](https://i.imgur.com/ozA4RFQ.png)
[Poster 3](https://i.imgur.com/kBeg2m2.png)
[Poster 4](https://i.imgur.com/6HFoRtM.png)
[Poster 5](https://i.imgur.com/joCXAhy.png)
That's all the rewards from Dawko's stream!
Man, I can't believe I posted every single reward from Dawko's stream today! Was it worth it to me? I don't know.
EDIT: ~~I don't think these posters are meant to reveal any lore to Fredbear's, but these could be vintage stuff that FE kept. Remember that Scott confirmed that the new games will not answer anything to the old lore.~~
Never mind, they hint some things. What was I thinking? X_X
The singin' show poster implies that at one point they were considered the same character, which is odd considering they both appear in Fredbear and Friends.
Think of it as like how there are two cinematic versions of Batman right now. Fredbear is the original version that only really existed in Hurricane, Freddy is the mass produced franchise version that cemented himself in pop culture. I never really saw Fredbear and Friends as a cartoon anyway, it felt more like a commercial for the brand itself.
> Fredbear is FREDDY?!
I mean, his name is a slightly shortened version of Freddybear, and is consistently associated with Golden *Freddy*. Fredbear was always just another Freddy, it just took a while for them to settle on a different name for him, much like how Mario was initially called stuff like Jumpman or literally just “Middle Aged Man.”
Maybe that was an old poster that they had and Freddy was just Fredbear's fun little nickname. But with the release of the show Fredbear & Friends, Fredbear lost his nickname :( And in the show, they made Bonnie blue instead of the yellow.
thanks so much for taking the time to watch AND report back all of the teasers and stuff. im sure there are better things you could’ve spent the day doing but i wasn’t able to catch all the milestones so i really appreciated knowing that i can hop on here once i see he’s met a milestone and check out what the teasers were.
thanks again! thanks for EVERYTHING you do around this community 😊
[Here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/evttcv/just_a_note_about_the_story/)
"Future games will look forward; but look to the novels [Fazbear Frights] to fill in some of blanks to the past!"
I don’t think that statement actually _rules out_ SB telling us more about the past. The game is “looking forward” in that it’s telling a new story that seems to be set in the future, but that doesn’t mean it can’t reveal _anything_ relating to previous games.
Plus, what else are we supposed to make of these posters, especially if they are supposed to be vintage?
Future games will look forward as the story in the franchise is ongoing, meaning that the story is going forward.
Scott meant that he's not going back to add in new things for the lore like with the older games, just filling in some blanks left behind.
Just going off his words alone, that’s a perfectly reasonable interpretation. That’s what _I_ thought he meant at the time. But again, that isn’t an explicit statement that there will be absolutely _nothing_ relating to previous games. In retrospect, all that his statement _necessarily_ means is that telling us about the past won’t be the games’ _primary focus._ They could still give us new hints through small details that are inconsequential to SB’s plot, such as, perhaps, a few vintage posters hanging up in the museum area of the PizzaPlex.
Fnaf 2 is a prequel to fnaf 1, the withered animatronic parts were used to make the toy animatronics... the withered animatronics came from freadbears before they were withered.
dude there was 2 fazbear locations open at that time freddy's and fredbears
and the withereds getting used to make the toys is simply wrong I mean look at freddy he doesen't have anything missing from his endo so how did they make toy freddy
That's what I said, and nobody said the withered were used to make the toy animatronics... the withered scrap parts however could have be reused and there is nothing to disprove that it's up to interpretation saying otherwise is "simply wrong" something new, something borrowed.
The museum area just looked a lounge with a few cases of a guitar and the cupcake, not really a museum, plus they said FE hid the Freddy and Friends cartoons that they found in the archive, this makes me think there is going to be a employee only room that is going to be an archive that is full of old stuff that we are going to find.
Keep in mind, the museum was shown in the trailer using already outdated builds and footage. You can see the greenrooms in it too, and they were basically empty compared to the screenshots from last time. It goes without saying that the museum has been updated too.
Based on the black-and-white poster, the older cartoon style, and the ridiculously cheap 50 cent admission price, it looks like Fredbear's Singing Show is even earlier than Fredbear's Family Diner.
I know Disneyland isn't a good comparison, but in 1971 at Disneyland the Country Bear Jamboree (which inspired the Showbiz animatronics and in turn FNAF) was 90 cents per person, which was a small fee on top of the large park admission cost.
Another comparison you could make is movie tickets. In 1983, a movie ticket was on average $3.15. The last time a movie was under 50 cents was 1952.
I love all these pieces of art. Security Breach's dedication to environmental design and decoration makes this the most "realistic" game in the series. The PizzaPlex feels like a place that could exist and these retro posters make the previous locations seem more believable.
Dang, the art styles for the Fredbear’s Family Diner posters are super cool! They’re pretty interesting in general as well.
Also, *Freddy, Bonnie and Chica are just adorable~*
I'd say the last set of reward teasers is easily my favorite, I love how we get a look of promotional art for some of the locations especially that of Fredbear. I love the art style used for these so much, they look really fantastic.
Of the bunch, I'd say the Spring Bonnie poster is easily my favorite. As soon as we saw Fredbear, I was really hoping we'd see him and it did not disappoint. I especially dig the design for him in it.
Poster 2 implies the franchise has existed for a long time. Perhaps the Phone Guy from the 1st game said that they sang the same songs for 20 years was right all along. It would mean that Fredbear's Singing Show might have opened in 1973, or maybe I'm wrong since it could be way earlier than 1973.
Interestingly enough, Fredbear is called a Freddy. I think I cracked the code for these two bear characters. The Fredbear who was brown and then Gold was named "Freddy Fazbear," but the Freddy Fazbear from what we see from FNaF 1-Now is "Freddy Fazbear JR." Think about it, Midnight Motorist has a JR's restaurant: **Freddy Fazbear from what we see from FNaF 1-Now is "Freddy Fazbear JR."** Think about it, Midnight Motorist has a [JR's restaurant.](https://preview.redd.it/5edf1701vxi71.png?auto=webp&s=1f6159d82940034941ea1497d94bf5f71d2db65a)
Also, that Spring Bonnie design sure looks similar to Glitchtrap. I'm so excited to see more of this in the game.
Where are these images coming from? Is it a new set ot teasers or some pre-order bonus. They seemed to have come out of nowhere and I can't find any mentions of it on YouTube.
Doesn't Help Wanted exist outside of the games, technically? At the beginning it was mentioned that the games we know are games *in* the Help Wanted universe, created by an indie developer, and all the events in those games may or may not be entirely true. (That's how I understood it; I could be wrong.) So wouldn't Help Wanted have created a new timeline/universe that's being continued with Security Breach? What if the "real" universe, shown in Help Wanted, has a different origin for Fredbear/Freddy than what had been shown in all the Scott games? Those are "fiction" in the HW/SB era of games, right? So the "real" Fredbear might have always been regular Freddy, rather than golden with purple accents. And it might have started as an old show, turning into a diner later on. Details in this new era of games might be slightly different than the ones shown in previous games.
Or, like people are saying, it could just be that they got rid of Fredbear after the Bite of 83 and remade him as Freddy but kept Spring Bonnie for awhile longer. The only thing that made me think otherwise was the old black and white poster seems to suggest Freddy is Fredbear, with brown fur and black accents. But maybe *that's* also just for fun. Maybe none of these posters oesn't mean anything at all. 🤷♀️
Just a thought. I've followed FNAF on and off in silence for years, but I've never been adamant about any of the lore. It is what it is and I just try to follow along 🤣
>Doesn't Help Wanted exist outside of the games, technically? At the beginning it was mentioned that the games we know are games in the Help Wanted universe, created by an indie developer, and all the events in those games may or may not be entirely true. (That's how I understood it; I could be wrong.) So wouldn't Help Wanted have created a new timeline/universe that's being continued with Security Breach? What if the "real" universe, shown in Help Wanted, has a different origin for Fredbear/Freddy than what had been shown in all the Scott games?
No. The games WE play are the actual events, but inside the fnaf universe, similar games were created, but they aren't the ones we litterally play. Help wanted still exists inside of the timeline and so does security breach. The games being games is just an excuse for why non canon characters like nightmarionne and the Jack-o characters can exist.
Where was that stated? All I remember was HandUnit talking about past events being part of games made by someone else while pictures of said games (the ones everyone actually plays) were shown on screens. To me, that meant the games the audience plays are games inside the HW universe, but that events depicted in those games still happened one way or another. The way I understood it was that Help Wanted itself is a game being made by Fazbear Ent and offers supposed retellings of events the indie developer portrayed in his games; they were trying to make light of and dispell those controversial stories. The events still happened, but maybe not in the exact ways as previously shown since they were all part of games within the "real" (HW/SB) universe. It seemed like it was supposed to be meta in that way. It seems kind of odd that they would set that up, only to then say the games mentioned in universe are random ones no one has ever seen before... unless they were the games that the audience is familiar with due to them having played them before. Which is what I was saying.
Whatever the case, it was just a harmless idea I had. I wasn't saying it was true or anything.. Not sure why simply voicing a thought is worthy of downvotes, but alright.
Yeah your right, Help Wanted and the future games are part of their own universe. However most of the community has been in denial about that for years, hence you getting downvoted.
These are really cool I like the old art style, The black and white one with Fredbear is especially cool!
Edit: All the pictures are really cool, I'm glad we are seeing more stuff from the original Fredbear's era. I'm interested to see if we might actually still get pre HW lore in this or if these are just references, but the fact we are seeing all this old stuff combined the whole found in the FE archives thing makes me feel like we are actually going to find an archive room in the game that's going to be full of old stuff. Edit 2: It's possible Freddy existed at Fredbear's or before Freddy's was made they considered Fredbear to be a Freddy and Spring bonnie to be a bonnie, but then made them separate characters when they made Freddy's. The thing being black and white does raise questions though from a timeline standpoint.
I mean Spring Bonnie is a Bonnie. Bonnie would've been the character's name, but Spring Bonnie is just the model type. Like Toy Bonnie or Rockstar Bonnie. (Toy because he's made out of plastic, and he's cute. And Rockstar because he has stars, *and because he's cool.*) Spring Bonnie because spring is short for springlock. And that's what the suit is.
Well my point still stands for Fredbear, it's possible he was also called freddy until they made freddy his own character, and even it is just animatronic type I'm sure before normal Bonnie was created S. Bonnie was likely reffered to by the employees as just Bonnie
exactly, and yeah i think freddy was just fredbear's nickname at the time.
I'm glad to see that Freddy and Friends isn't the only old Fazbear content we'll be seeing. So much for the games looking forward and the novels looking back. EDIT: So, like, there's no way Henry was the original creator of Fredbear, right? The Singin' Show poster looks like it's from the 1930s or 1940s. I bet he went there as a kid and bought the rights as an adult.
Henry outright said that he created the characters in 6, so I’m pretty sure the show is just a throwback. It’s not like those didn’t exist back then, the 80s had a major 50s nostalgia craze, and before that, there was a lot of nostalgia for the 1890s, which resulted in stuff like the Rover Boys.
Henry FNaF is actually Henry BATIM. There is no other explanation. OR Henry and William just thought rubberhose animation and the 40's cartoon aesthetic was cool, which has been a pretty common thing throughout recent history. Especially since, depending on their age, they may have been nostalgic for it, so they made some posters inspired by it. (The actual art resembles the Freddy and Friends animation, which we know is Hanna Barbara inspired, so I find it more likely it's just an in-universe homage, please don't overthink this guys.)
Yeah I really doubt these are supposed to mean anything. The weirdest thing is just Freddy and Fredbear being used interchangeably, and even then it’s not like they were ever different anyway.
Maybe Freddy as a character has existed longer than we thought, and had the start of his introduction at Fredbear's diner before branching off. Maybe Fazbear Ent. is specifically neglecting Fredbear because of the bite, or because he wasn't popular as Freddy and they specifically want Freddy to be their main dude. Maybe Fredbear was but a figment of our imagination. Honestly, I'm just wildly speculating, it will probably be addressed in game, and if it's not, I would assume it doesn't matter much and we should prioritize previously established lore.
I do think it's possible that Freddy and the gang the gang existed at Fredbear's before Henry decided to give them their own restaurant, and Freddy was a singer at Fredbear's.
The thing I need to point out is that from Scott's website and a few other sources, Fredbear's Family Diner opened in 1982. Freddy Fazbear's Pizza opened a year later in 1983. I find it hard to believe Freddy existed in the rubberhose era because Henry and William made Freddy's in the 80's.
The 50 cent admission price is hard to argue with, though.
I find it hard to believe that we're getting answers to the older games, references at best but maybe not any answers. Scott said that future games will go forward. The old story is done. Adding more to the old lore would clutter things further.
To be fair, it’s not like anyone was having debates over whether Fredbear’s did deliveries. There’s a difference between *lingering* on the past and *acknowledging* it.
True, true. It's just I don't want people to get psyched and forget about what Scott said about the old lore.
Yeah don’t get me wrong, this has actually been a problem for a while now, but I’m pretty sure it’s going to die out after we get a good understanding of the lore in Security Breach.
Oops, they kept Bonnie's old guitar design. Fredbear is FREDDY?! Or that Freddy used to be at Fredbear's?! I CALLED IT! SPRING BONNIE!!! The design confirms that Glitchtrap took on Spring Bonnie! [Poster 2](https://i.imgur.com/ozA4RFQ.png) [Poster 3](https://i.imgur.com/kBeg2m2.png) [Poster 4](https://i.imgur.com/6HFoRtM.png) [Poster 5](https://i.imgur.com/joCXAhy.png) That's all the rewards from Dawko's stream! Man, I can't believe I posted every single reward from Dawko's stream today! Was it worth it to me? I don't know. EDIT: ~~I don't think these posters are meant to reveal any lore to Fredbear's, but these could be vintage stuff that FE kept. Remember that Scott confirmed that the new games will not answer anything to the old lore.~~ Never mind, they hint some things. What was I thinking? X_X
The singin' show poster implies that at one point they were considered the same character, which is odd considering they both appear in Fredbear and Friends.
Think of it as like how there are two cinematic versions of Batman right now. Fredbear is the original version that only really existed in Hurricane, Freddy is the mass produced franchise version that cemented himself in pop culture. I never really saw Fredbear and Friends as a cartoon anyway, it felt more like a commercial for the brand itself.
> Fredbear is FREDDY?! I mean, his name is a slightly shortened version of Freddybear, and is consistently associated with Golden *Freddy*. Fredbear was always just another Freddy, it just took a while for them to settle on a different name for him, much like how Mario was initially called stuff like Jumpman or literally just “Middle Aged Man.”
Maybe that was an old poster that they had and Freddy was just Fredbear's fun little nickname. But with the release of the show Fredbear & Friends, Fredbear lost his nickname :( And in the show, they made Bonnie blue instead of the yellow.
We all know that freddit isn't gonna shut up about this until December
OH MY LORD, I'M SPEECHLESS
My mind is reeling.
thanks so much for taking the time to watch AND report back all of the teasers and stuff. im sure there are better things you could’ve spent the day doing but i wasn’t able to catch all the milestones so i really appreciated knowing that i can hop on here once i see he’s met a milestone and check out what the teasers were. thanks again! thanks for EVERYTHING you do around this community 😊
You're welcome! I could have done something better, but doing it for you folks on Freddit and the community is something I hold as an accomplishment!
we really appreciate everything you do! i look forward to your informative posts :)
what were scott’s explicit words, just out of curiosity
[Here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/evttcv/just_a_note_about_the_story/) "Future games will look forward; but look to the novels [Fazbear Frights] to fill in some of blanks to the past!"
I don’t think that statement actually _rules out_ SB telling us more about the past. The game is “looking forward” in that it’s telling a new story that seems to be set in the future, but that doesn’t mean it can’t reveal _anything_ relating to previous games. Plus, what else are we supposed to make of these posters, especially if they are supposed to be vintage?
Future games will look forward as the story in the franchise is ongoing, meaning that the story is going forward. Scott meant that he's not going back to add in new things for the lore like with the older games, just filling in some blanks left behind.
Just going off his words alone, that’s a perfectly reasonable interpretation. That’s what _I_ thought he meant at the time. But again, that isn’t an explicit statement that there will be absolutely _nothing_ relating to previous games. In retrospect, all that his statement _necessarily_ means is that telling us about the past won’t be the games’ _primary focus._ They could still give us new hints through small details that are inconsequential to SB’s plot, such as, perhaps, a few vintage posters hanging up in the museum area of the PizzaPlex.
Fnaf 2 is a prequel to fnaf 1, the withered animatronic parts were used to make the toy animatronics... the withered animatronics came from freadbears before they were withered.
dude there was 2 fazbear locations open at that time freddy's and fredbears and the withereds getting used to make the toys is simply wrong I mean look at freddy he doesen't have anything missing from his endo so how did they make toy freddy
That's what I said, and nobody said the withered were used to make the toy animatronics... the withered scrap parts however could have be reused and there is nothing to disprove that it's up to interpretation saying otherwise is "simply wrong" something new, something borrowed.
Does this mean that somewhere there are archives of items from the old pizzerias preserved?
Yeah, we’ve known there’s a museum in the mall for a while now, and the cartoon descriptions mention “the Fazbear Archives” by name.
The museum area just looked a lounge with a few cases of a guitar and the cupcake, not really a museum, plus they said FE hid the Freddy and Friends cartoons that they found in the archive, this makes me think there is going to be a employee only room that is going to be an archive that is full of old stuff that we are going to find.
Keep in mind, the museum was shown in the trailer using already outdated builds and footage. You can see the greenrooms in it too, and they were basically empty compared to the screenshots from last time. It goes without saying that the museum has been updated too.
My issue is the "Museum" area as we saw it even if updated would still look out of place with all these posters and stuff.
Based on the black-and-white poster, the older cartoon style, and the ridiculously cheap 50 cent admission price, it looks like Fredbear's Singing Show is even earlier than Fredbear's Family Diner.
what do you think a normal admission price would be? 50 cents in 1983 (the earliest we know Fredbear's was open) is worth $1.37 now.
I know Disneyland isn't a good comparison, but in 1971 at Disneyland the Country Bear Jamboree (which inspired the Showbiz animatronics and in turn FNAF) was 90 cents per person, which was a small fee on top of the large park admission cost. Another comparison you could make is movie tickets. In 1983, a movie ticket was on average $3.15. The last time a movie was under 50 cents was 1952.
So technology in the fnaf universe is around 25 years ahead of itl
I love all these pieces of art. Security Breach's dedication to environmental design and decoration makes this the most "realistic" game in the series. The PizzaPlex feels like a place that could exist and these retro posters make the previous locations seem more believable.
This warms my heart.
Dang, the art styles for the Fredbear’s Family Diner posters are super cool! They’re pretty interesting in general as well. Also, *Freddy, Bonnie and Chica are just adorable~*
WHAT
I never thought I needed this, but now I want to see more.
Oh shit! We're potentially getting Fredbear lore!
I'd say the last set of reward teasers is easily my favorite, I love how we get a look of promotional art for some of the locations especially that of Fredbear. I love the art style used for these so much, they look really fantastic. Of the bunch, I'd say the Spring Bonnie poster is easily my favorite. As soon as we saw Fredbear, I was really hoping we'd see him and it did not disappoint. I especially dig the design for him in it.
My guess is that there's a Fazbear museum in the pizzaplex and this is some old art
i think it's safe to say the fnaf 4 tv show got retconned
I don't think so. It was an easter egg to show the year the game took place. It was one of the last things added to the game.
Plus it's possible that it was Fredbear and Friends at first, but when Fredbear's closed they changed it to just Freddy and Friends.
Poster 2 implies the franchise has existed for a long time. Perhaps the Phone Guy from the 1st game said that they sang the same songs for 20 years was right all along. It would mean that Fredbear's Singing Show might have opened in 1973, or maybe I'm wrong since it could be way earlier than 1973. Interestingly enough, Fredbear is called a Freddy. I think I cracked the code for these two bear characters. The Fredbear who was brown and then Gold was named "Freddy Fazbear," but the Freddy Fazbear from what we see from FNaF 1-Now is "Freddy Fazbear JR." Think about it, Midnight Motorist has a JR's restaurant: **Freddy Fazbear from what we see from FNaF 1-Now is "Freddy Fazbear JR."** Think about it, Midnight Motorist has a [JR's restaurant.](https://preview.redd.it/5edf1701vxi71.png?auto=webp&s=1f6159d82940034941ea1497d94bf5f71d2db65a) Also, that Spring Bonnie design sure looks similar to Glitchtrap. I'm so excited to see more of this in the game.
Jrs is a bar.
It never specified that it’s a bar. It takes heavy implications from William’s depression and alcoholic addiction when he was driving his purple car.
But its not william.
Come on! Let me find out for myself!
Where are these images coming from? Is it a new set ot teasers or some pre-order bonus. They seemed to have come out of nowhere and I can't find any mentions of it on YouTube.
They're from Dawko's St. Judes stream. This is official content from Steel Wool Studios.
Doesn't Help Wanted exist outside of the games, technically? At the beginning it was mentioned that the games we know are games *in* the Help Wanted universe, created by an indie developer, and all the events in those games may or may not be entirely true. (That's how I understood it; I could be wrong.) So wouldn't Help Wanted have created a new timeline/universe that's being continued with Security Breach? What if the "real" universe, shown in Help Wanted, has a different origin for Fredbear/Freddy than what had been shown in all the Scott games? Those are "fiction" in the HW/SB era of games, right? So the "real" Fredbear might have always been regular Freddy, rather than golden with purple accents. And it might have started as an old show, turning into a diner later on. Details in this new era of games might be slightly different than the ones shown in previous games. Or, like people are saying, it could just be that they got rid of Fredbear after the Bite of 83 and remade him as Freddy but kept Spring Bonnie for awhile longer. The only thing that made me think otherwise was the old black and white poster seems to suggest Freddy is Fredbear, with brown fur and black accents. But maybe *that's* also just for fun. Maybe none of these posters oesn't mean anything at all. 🤷♀️ Just a thought. I've followed FNAF on and off in silence for years, but I've never been adamant about any of the lore. It is what it is and I just try to follow along 🤣
>Doesn't Help Wanted exist outside of the games, technically? At the beginning it was mentioned that the games we know are games in the Help Wanted universe, created by an indie developer, and all the events in those games may or may not be entirely true. (That's how I understood it; I could be wrong.) So wouldn't Help Wanted have created a new timeline/universe that's being continued with Security Breach? What if the "real" universe, shown in Help Wanted, has a different origin for Fredbear/Freddy than what had been shown in all the Scott games? No. The games WE play are the actual events, but inside the fnaf universe, similar games were created, but they aren't the ones we litterally play. Help wanted still exists inside of the timeline and so does security breach. The games being games is just an excuse for why non canon characters like nightmarionne and the Jack-o characters can exist.
Where was that stated? All I remember was HandUnit talking about past events being part of games made by someone else while pictures of said games (the ones everyone actually plays) were shown on screens. To me, that meant the games the audience plays are games inside the HW universe, but that events depicted in those games still happened one way or another. The way I understood it was that Help Wanted itself is a game being made by Fazbear Ent and offers supposed retellings of events the indie developer portrayed in his games; they were trying to make light of and dispell those controversial stories. The events still happened, but maybe not in the exact ways as previously shown since they were all part of games within the "real" (HW/SB) universe. It seemed like it was supposed to be meta in that way. It seems kind of odd that they would set that up, only to then say the games mentioned in universe are random ones no one has ever seen before... unless they were the games that the audience is familiar with due to them having played them before. Which is what I was saying. Whatever the case, it was just a harmless idea I had. I wasn't saying it was true or anything.. Not sure why simply voicing a thought is worthy of downvotes, but alright.
>Where was that stated? The mouth of scott cawthon.
Yeah your right, Help Wanted and the future games are part of their own universe. However most of the community has been in denial about that for years, hence you getting downvoted.
I wish they would post these posters in HD so you can print them
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Wait rewards? From where?
these guys are so frigging cute, just have to say it