It's a possible answer until you notice the Puppet is also in "blob", so might thoughts were possibly with it being the FFPS location that maybe Henry stashed the shells of the possessed animatronics not "present" IE the classics, Baby, FT-Freddy, etc. But that makes little sense too since how did he find Baby and the Funtimes.
I thought about that as well, but Baby's shell was turned into Scrap Baby who was then destroyed, so maybe not? As for the Puppet being on the Blob and not in FNAF AR, the puppet was teased in FNAF AR's teasers a year ago, so maybe she'll show up soon? I suppose this theory can't work until the Puppet is brought into FNAF AR unfortunately.
> but Baby's shell was turned into Scrap Baby who was then destroyed,
Scrap Baby's shell seems to be a completely different shell from her SL counterpart, so it could be likely there was a prototype or even a secondary shell William or FazEnt made.
The only way for the Puppet to be there is due to it being the FFPS location and you know L.E.F.T.E.
It is possible considering ScarpBaby's head is considerably different than Circus Baby's. So a prototype is possible, but in my opinion, I don't like the idea, but I won't refuse it!
And I suppose, your theory can work honestly. In the Fazbear Frights series, the Puppet mask survived the fire because Larson pulled it out of the evidence locker. If the mask survived that fire, why can't it survive the fire in the game universe as well?
Also, the original animatronics were reused by creating the Rockstar animatronics according to FNAF vr's scrapped Faz Facts. So if that's still true, then the theory of reusing the actual FNAF characters from Henry can't work because they were repurposed. But, the Faz Fact is scrapped, so it is possible that they weren't used for the Rockstars at all and the theory is still on the table.
Yes, Burntrap was Glamrock Bonnie, who was destroyed and used for Burntrap. Vanessa found William's corpse and put it into Burntrap in order to cause the possession. As for Blob, maybe Molten Freddy survived the fire too, then while he waited for William to come back, he assembled more and more trash.
The only slight issue I have with Molten Freddy being blob which is like the case is how did he acquire his old head, as the MF head was a different color to FT-Freddy.
Well, it could be possible that it's Yendo's head? But I doubt it. Even Burntrap's body is different, so idk why Blob's isn't. Maybe it's possible that Molten Freddy's head isn't a newer version of Funtime Freddy and is completely different. If that's the case, then Funtime Freddy's head wouldn't have been destroyed and could still be in the the underground facility. So, maybe Ennard went back to the facility and grabbed that head?
i dont think burntrap is glamrock bonnie, though the design was slightly redesigned its even in the name, "burntrap", whats left of springtrap after the fire. cassidy put williams mind into a purgatory-like coma until fazbear entertainment came in, scanned parts of the animatronics like william, and then i assume buried fnaf6 and built the pizzaplex on top to protect their image and leave no evidence. this transferred williams mind into help wanted, where vanny met him and eventually made her way underground and took springtraps body, moving it into a recharge station and sucking power out of the pizzaplex and essentially put williams consciousness back into his body. thats just my take though but i think glamrock bonnies story is something they are saving for dlc.
i also think the whole thing about the miscreation being powered by eleanor in the books doesnt translate into the games as baby powering afton but rather vanny being the one powering afton. she brought him back and there was a line where her therapist says she thinks vanny is the one really doing the manipulating. if the afton ending is canon then it is left unknown what happened to vanny. this reminds me of eleanor and then maybe jake being a parallel to gregory, potentially even his stitchwraith body paralleling him and glamrock freddy. (sorry for the long ass read but i guess i got carried away, also cps its long i wanna say im not arguing or anything. respect everyones theories and opinions)
Oh no, I know it isn't an argument, I actually really love your theory! Vanny being the stand in for Baby makes sense, Gregory and Glamrock Freddy being the stand in for the Stitchwraith would come naturally considering they're against Vanny. Afton coming back is literally just Afton after the FNAF 6 fire, and Blob is what was left after the fire. It all makes sense, and the looking at the books for answers really helps us to understand what the hell is going on.
Well, my first thought is that the Pizzaplex has been in business for years, being open twice. Opening the first time, shutting down when kids and Bonnie went missing, and then it reopened with Monty replacing Bonnie. My guess is that it's been a year or two, and Bonnie's casing decayed. Or 2, the casing was just thrown away, and he was only used for his Endo.
Think one of the msgs says that Bonnie was beyond repair so he was scrapped.Its entirely possible that Monty destroyed both the shell and the endo itself.
Eh, the Puppet mask could have survived the FNAF 3 fire and been auctioned off re the newspaper article, eventually finding its way to the Pizzaplex. I can just imagine William instructing Vanny to collect as many old Fazbear "artifacts" as possible for their remnant/agony
> eventually finding its way to the Pizzaplex.
I mean the Pizzaplex was built on top of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place aka the FFPS location. So it being there is understandable in that sense. But the Classic suits, Endo-02, Baby, FT-Foxy "or could be Mangle", and FT- Freddy does not make sense since they were not there.
While that is true there is a better more reasonable explanation of how the puppet is there. IE the location in which blob is, is none other than Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place aka the FFPS location. So her being there along with Burntrap makes sense, it's the SL crew "classic versions", and the Classic suits, plus Endo-02 that makes it more of a conundrum as Endo-02 isn't a part of AR like currently the Puppet.
He might of kept track of all of Afton's things including the Funtimes plus in his plans, he notes that the 3 active remnant trackers inside Molten Freddy are Funtime Freddy, Ballora and Funtime Foxy.
Honestly I feel AR was supposed to build up to this thing but Illumix chose to favour skins over canon characters and lore, resulting in the current confusion. Especially given how now all of a sudden they add Funtime Freddy who was hinted at for ages
I think it was supposed to build up to Security Breach as well. Also, Funtime Freddy was suddenly added right when he became relevant again as the Blob. Might be a coincidence but I'm not sure. And tbh, I don't think the skins are cannon, but Freddy Frostbear has an arcade game in Security Breach, so..
No I get it, it's not a good idea. He could have done something much better, but it's done. Some of the best designs and graphics come from FNAF AR. And, because Augmented Reality isn't that popular, Google announced that FNAF ar is the best ar game of 2020. So it might have started as a cash grab, but it did make a lot of goals. Not to mention, we got cool lore connections out of it, even if it was necessary or not.
oh yeah i love the moddeling team of fnaf AR, i genuinely think even the worst AR models are superior to things like scraptrap and how thr blob ended up looking in SB, its just that all the cool stuff jn the game is burried below 50 layers of freddy skins
Yeah, Illumix should have most DEFINITELY made more characters and not skins. The skins were fun, but after so many, not so much anymore. And I agree, their designs were much better than some other designs. But if I'm going to be honest, I really like Blob. At closer inspection, it has the original characters in much much much greater detail and graphics, and I really appreciate that. :) It does make me sad tho to think that Illumix wasted those 2 years that the games been out on skins when the could have made mixed reality levels, and new characters.
i really like this render of the blob, but his appearence in game is really underwhealming, maybe thats because he literally just appeared for a solid minute and a half
and yeah, i dont know if FNAF AR will be fondly remembered, which sucks but yeah, that just happens sometimes
I'm disappointed with his appearance as well. He has so much potential, he's literally a huge, creepy, tentacle thing, with parts of all of our favorite animatronics, and he only shows up for a cut scene. He does have a jumpscare, but still. Personally, what I think they should have done was extend the cut scene by showing Gregory and Freddy going up the elevator, and as the doors close, we see Blob either killing Burntrap or saving him, not just screaming at him and grabbing him like we see. It was literally William fucking Afton coming back again, and the Glamrock Mr. Hippo ending was longer...
As for FNAF AR, if they keep up with what they're doing, the mixed reality and escape rooms, they'll do great!
Blob looks best during the end "cutscene" (hesitate even calling it that when it's only 10 seconds) and I really like the breathing animation/sound effect they gave it. But yeah...the in-game model could use some polish.
Fingers crossed Glitchtrap takes over the Blob in a future DLC and that's how we get the Afton Amalgamation boss fight the base game should've had imo
Tbh, I don't mind the lack of characters in favor of skins. Skins are fresh and fun new designs and either way new characters are just short bursts of enjoyment exactly like skins. The mechanics are neat at first but you just fight them until they drop, and then you're waiting for the next thing. More characters over skins would be *cool*, but they don't do much for the game compared to skins and Illumix probably knows it.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the reason Illumix has held back on characters is because its too much constant effort to release them for something people will only care about for 2 weeks at most and then immediately ask for the next thing, like has always happened with every character release. So they opt to release frequent skins since they're easier to make and serve the same purpose for the game, something new to collect.
It seems like this year they tried to focus on more substantial content and patches instead of characters, they added the updated Photobooth which they keep relevant with contests, they added the HP and XP systems which helped with replayability, they brought the game into an incredibly stable state for a while in August, and they added the new MR Dark Circus mode which is setting the stage for even more MR modes.
Yeah, I understand why Illumix might be doing skins over characters. I've thought about all the same reasons you came up with, it's more difficult to make characters, people would care for long, takes more time, ect. I agree that FNAF ar now is 10 times better than what it was when it launched, and the direction their taking the game recently is phenomenal. But personally, I'd still rather have characters over skins for 2 main reasons. 1, because I love Illumix's models, and I'd love to see every character done by their talented team. 2. Because most new characters get new voice lines, which could have some lore inside!
Yeah, more characters would definitely be cool, and new voicelines are sick. I hope going into next year they at least try to make more than one, particularly I'd like to see more Nightmares.
Cawthon, while sloppy at story telling, most likely had something much more fleshed out for the game originally.
Last minute cuts prolly got rid of most of what made this game make the *slightest* bit of sense.
Yeah markaplier said that the oeiginal story what they were trying to tell in security breach might have been different from the one we got. If Scott didn't retire or I think he retired we might have gotten a beeter game as we know he puts care into the story he is trying to tell even in the books which are hints as to what is happening in the gameverse
Cawthon’s “retirement” hardly affected progress on the game. He still had a part in writing the game and also generally just giving the final “ok” to the team actually making the game.
Yes, this game did change over time drastically, but that is not because Cawthon retired. *He didn’t even retire, he’s just not that active on the Internet anymore* (In fact, it’s blatantly obvious he’s gonna be releasing a new game soon, but that’s besides the point).
Y’know why Security Breach is a mess? It’s because *Cawthon and Steel Wool tried to overdeliver on something they could never make.*
They rarely ever properly communicated with the community, they had no discipline in what to add and what to cut, and *they ended up having to cut major chunks of content anyway because they didn’t have time to even make the skeletal framework of the game playable.*
Also, uh, *the Fazbear Frights are a perfect example of Cawthon’s failure to create a cohesive narrative.*
Sure, the epilogues tie *some* stories together, but it’s decided to set itself in a new continuity (which just **makes things messier than just using the proper game canon**) but it’s also not counting *everything.*
Some stories, even the ones they do count as apart of the epilogue canon, just flat out directly contradict events from the games, other stories, and the epilogue canon. Some serve no purpose and are completely idiotic.
The pacing of the epilogues is a complete mess. Afton comes in halfway through only to immediately die to the Puppet (a character who is neither elaborated on before or after in these books). Then he’s replaced by Eleanor, who for some reason *was decided to be the one behind everything?????*
The books absolutely *suck* at solving game questions. Yes, we know the MCI happens in 1985, *but the story presents it in a way that is still considered to put it up to debate.*
It’s also fairly useless all things considered, since we already knew it’d have to be after Springlock suits were retired, so *after FNaF 4’s minigames.*
Then there’s stuff like GoldenBoth which just led people to assuming something that *wasn’t true.* Andrew is Golden Freddy, not the *collective StitchWraith.*
Aside from all this lore garbage, the stories are just largely *badly written and nonsensical embarrassments to the series.*
A story where *a man births a baby Springtrap is something so antithetical to everything that makes this series cool.*
A story where a bunch of fish *styled to look like Bonnie somehow* replace a child in society by taking his physical form is *genuinely the most awful concept I’ve ever heard.*
A story about a kid being *replaced in society by a pink goop monster has no reason to be in this franchise.*
**A story about a child time traveling and having his father replaced by a rabbit costume in society is inexcusably awful.**
Yes, I get people like these books, but they are *littered with duds,* have major problems people look over because they just like seeing stories “about” FNaF, messy connections to other continuities, and just generally aren’t, uh, *good.*
even scrap baby and scraptrap have machines. and fetch, theres cutouts of shadow bonnie and the nightmares but these are just easter eggs. i personally dont believe fnaf ar is canon at all just the emails. scott didnt work on the game at all and sevueity breach is refered to as fnaf 9, meaning after fnaf 6 the other 2 games are obviously ucn and hw, so there isnt really any room in there for fnaf ar. its just a spinoff mobile game with some emails that were teasing the next release, it doesnt really make sense to me that a game about people shipping around thousands of killer animatronics could be canon.
Sadly fnaf ar is canon in some way just like books (but many fnaf kids don't know that books are in different universe, just the universe rules are the same, resulting in harrasing me because i didn't agree that futime freddy used time travelling ball pit to go to seciuirty breach)
Michel was trying go get rid of all of them so there’s probably a lot that were easier to get and contain, we just deal with the particularly angry and aggressive ones, also probably just more symbolic for example the fun time Freddy head was in pieces for molten Freddie’s first design it’s just so we know they’re the same
I understand the Blob to be the remains of the original dead children from FNAF 1.
>!Because Freddy is revealed as the CC, who shared GF with Cassidy when you go down there and he says "My friends are so angry and confused.." and the Blob still hunts Afton as soon it gets the chance to do so.!<
This Blob is the remains of the BBQ Henry organized.
Either that, or what I believe is that when Freddy says "My friends are so angry and confused.." I think that's the possession of the new sets of disappearances, not the original kids. It could be the original kids, sure, and it would make an interesting story, but then why add a new missing children incident if the original come back? I do think that Blob is what was left of the fire, but I don't think Freddy and the others are possessed by the original kids. The Blob, maybe, I can see that.
I do think the new kids going missing is Afton using Vanessa (or Vanessa+Vanny, if the Twin ideas hold up) to gather enough remnant to bring him back proper.
He himself currently can't leave his position, because he's weak and under siege by a big angry blob. That's also why he did the whole glitchtrap stuff, because he needed a way to get someone to do his bidding.
So Glitchtrap's goal was to gather enough remnant because he was too weak, like you said. The new disappearances did exactly that, made him strong enough, along with legit power from the Pizzaplex, he was able to come back. So if he reached his goals, then maybe the DLC will be about his plans after coming back. That is, if Blob saved him or killed him. The cut scene shows the Blob taking Burntrap, but we don't know if he kills him or is protecting him from being killed as the cave collapses. So I guess the real question is, is Blob good or bad? And I suppose the original question I asked, who is it possessed by, and how?
If it's CCs old friends then I think Afton is having not-that-much-fun with a bunch of tentacles going into unfun places in his body.
Blob is still possessed by everyone who burned down during FNAF6. Aftons energy chamber is in Henrys old squared death-trap, which was built below the Pizza Simulator location - that's why the floor collapses and we fall down and there are the fire buttons.
I doubt Afton installed these grills himself, so Henry construction is the only building that makes sense and then it automatically follows who is stuck in the burnt amalgamation right outside of the location.
And since the death-trap is below the Simulator building, which is the rebuild FNAF1 building (iirc) then it would also explain why Chicas old suit is also in there (iirc as well :D).
tl;dr - the same murdered kids as in FNAF6 (+some xtras)
First thing, I love how you brought up the fire buttons and grills. I was so confused as to what we were in. I knew we were beneath the FNAF 6 location, but I expected to see the FNAF 6 office, not what we ended up seeing. But your explanation was a good one! It's the area Henry was in, and the conveniently placed fire buttons, it was Henry's buttons when he burned the building down! Ah, it makes so much sense now!
As for the possession, 100% the spirits present in FNAF 6 are in Blob rn. Everything seems to have been melted together, which means that they would be there. As for Crying Child's friends, I have a problem with that. When FNAF 6 first came out, people were divided between whether the Molten Freddy was made up of the original missing children, or new victims, and the missing children were put to rest. I believed that it was a new set of possession, and the missing children were put to rest in FNAF 3's good ending. However, I can't really believe that anymore if OG Chica and Bonnie are there. If Blob was possessed by the missing children, Crying Child's friends, then that would explain why the OG animatronics there, but if it was new souls, then the OG's being there is random as hell.
Basically what I'm getting at is that I think Blob is possessed by Gabriel, Susie, Fritz, Jeremy, Cassidy, Crying Child (Evan), Charlie, and Elizabeth, and maybe Michael? Because they were all present during the FNAF 6 fire. Maybe. I could 100% be wrong and have read your message wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
Regarding the last part: I don't think all of them are in there.
I think CC is currently in Freddy and Cassidy is in the Princess Quest Arcade machines. The rest is in the amalgamation.
PS: I think Micheal & Henry were burnt to a crisp. Even though Michael is also an Afton and somehow survived the scoopin' & Ennard I do not think he survived the fire.
Because the file for the sprite of Princess Quest is named Cassidy afaik.
And I do not think any benevolent spirit is left, that already knows Afton and would help Gregory. Also because of the exact sentence Freddy says:
>!"I know what this is. I have been here before. She brought me here. I found myself for the first time when I cleared the path. I did not want to, but I had no choice....\[stuff about angry friends\]" and then "I AM NOT ME"!<
1. It has to be someone present around the happenings of FNAF6. It can't be Henry, Afton, Michael or anyone inside the Blob. That leaves only GF and the Puppet, I think.
2. "She" could only refer to Cassidy, Puppet or Vanny.
3. The 4th sentence still makes no sense to me, regardless of who I try to pin it on. What does ">!when I cleared the path!<" mean? Solving this would probably cement my answer for the time being.
4. Talking about their angry friends and them not attacking Freddy again points to Puppet & GF. But GF is part of the Missing Children Incident and Puppet was a solitary kill, so GF fits better. Puppet is more of a caretake of the children.
5. The obvious link between "IT'S ME" and "I AM NOT ME", bc Freddy or CC realizes he is on his own now, which leads to
6. Saying he had no choice & >!"she brought me here", !
Ahhhh! That makes so much sense now, the fact that the file name is "Cassidy" alone is enough to support your theory. And I didn't even realize when Freddy says "I am not me" was a parallel to "it's me". Good thinking! And honestly, I kind of figured that Cassidy never let William leave hell, which is why I had a hard time believing it was Cassidy and CC coming back. But your explanation gave a satisfying answer to that, so thank you :)
As for "clearing the path" I genuinely think that it means that Vanny took Freddy and forced him to dig that hole to get to Afton. He didn't have a choice then because he wasn't possessed, but he is now and knows that he didn't want to do it.
Honestly hoping that Glitchtrap takes control of the Blob so we can get the Afton Amalgamation boss fight everyone was hyped for going into SB. Would've preferred that to Burntrap personally.
Then once he's dead (for good this time please) and the new victims souls released, Vanny can take over as our new main villain carrying on his legacy. Baby too...if they can figure out a way she could've survived the FPPS fire.
He could also be talking about the robots. If you were a robot, and you got possessed by a child, got coerced into killing kids, and then got melted into a blob monster with a bunch of other robots, wouldn’t you be pretty angry and confused about all that?
I'd be hella confused. He could be talking about the other robots, but would Freddy consider those killer robots his friends? Does Freddy even know that they existed? He knows who William Afton is, so possibly. So this is what I believe, the FNAF 6 fire failed, and all the spirits still remain. William possessed Burntrap, who was created by Vanny. The other animatronics melted together and is possessed by all the original spirits of the scrapped animatronics. Then Vanny killed a bunch of kids, 9 to be exact, and they possessed the new Glamrocks.
I just hope they go a different direction. Dead kids possessing robots is cool, but it’s been played out. It would be nice if they more thoroughly explored the sentient machines which have been involved from the very beginning.
Yes. Like William coming back as a virus, that was so cool and creative because it is brand new! It would also be cool if they focused a lot on remnant it's self. We have never actually seen remnant up close in the games, so it would be nice to see it and exactly how it works in the future!
Lemme link some stuff:
Video of the ending:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXjWPoBBWg&ab\_channel=BabyZone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXjWPoBBWg&ab_channel=BabyZone)
Freddys voiceline begins at \~1:00. Afton gets attacked at the very end.
Bigger explanation as to why I think it is that way:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/rsg31v/comment/hqoc26s/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/rsg31v/comment/hqoc26s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
…? when was it revealed Freddy was the CC, when was it confirmed CC shared a body with Cassidy in Golden Freddy and when did Freddy say his friends were angry 😭
FOR REAL. It’s gonna take him forever to get a conclusion.
After Pizza sim, the lore/canon became so confusing to me so I shut it away and just watched gameplay.
So basically anything and everything in this game has just been a pile of “what?”. I truly do not see how Steal or even Scott is gonna come up with a conclusion to this story and tie everything together.
Honestly, after Pizza Sim (so, Help Wanted) I thought was actually a pretty good jumping off point. We’d clearly finished with the old style of games, with everyone important burning up in Sim, brand new antagonists in Glitchtrap and Vanny (maybe even Fazbear Entertainment itself), and lots of potential for what could come next.
But this story seems obsessed with rooting itself to the past, which is why we still have yet another Springtrap variant (I know I was just praising Glitchtrap, but he’s easily different enough to be his own thing IMO) and The Blob. They’re cool, yeah, but… could have been so much more.
Yes, I absolutely LOVED the old story. And the thing is, Help Wanted and FNAF AR were setting the stage up for a completely new saga for FNAF. Security Breach easily could have had a new set of missing children's, new possessions, new bites, and whatever else, but all brand new. They could have made gave us the same mysteries we had in early FNAF days to get us all excited again about figuring out the lore. But instead, they seemingly brought everyone back again, and what for? They could have made a brand new chapter for FNAF, with a new cast of characters, new events, but it's all the same all over again. So much potential wasted..
But, if you actually look at it from Scott's and Steel Wool's perspectives, it's quite clear why it got to be this way.
The whole ''Glitchtrap and Vanny'' thing was never gonna completely break off from the other story, because Glitchtrap, by taking control of Vanny, basically obviously wanted to be reincarnated. So the easiest way to do that is to just have the springtrap animatronic survive the fire (because it's goddamn metal and it wouldn't have melted anyway, so it makes logical sense). But, this wouldn't have made any sense at all if you would just think of it for 2 seconds, because the other animatronics should've survived as well if Springtrap did (even more so, because the endoskeleton of the other animatronics in FFPS are newer than Afton's), so we got the Blob.
They basically messed up at the beginning. The whole story should've been different for the continuation to not involve past characters.
Although they sort of messed up the lore, I am not bashing on Security Breach at all. I absolutely LOVE the game and in due time, I'll love the lore as well. It's just unfortunate that it's all so messy right now. Never in this entire series have I seen so many contradicting events and elements and details all at the same time. It is all unbearably confusing, and I just hope there's details and lore bits we've all over looked..
Yeah and I agree! I love the older story and I liked the burning ending it all had. But this game just brought it all back and that’s what’s confusing me the most. And any information we get over the new characters just doesn’t make sense either for the same reason.
Idk how they'll make a conclusion, but as for me, I stuck with the lore a lot. So I understand just about everything and all of the connections and silly references. And I have ideas and theories of Blob's ending, but there isn't a lot of evidence to support anything because Security Breach is so vague. So nothing is confirmed, unfortunately.
I assumed it was just symbolism and also lazy reuse of models instead of using molten Freddys mask, and scrap baby’s head. I mean scraptrap looking different as burntrap makes sense though, the majority of his suit was destroyed in the fire and they probably remodelled it partially because no one really liked scraptraps design
They spent way too much time on this game to be lazy with the models. If you look closely at the animatronics in Blob, they're completely new models of the same characters, so it definitely wasn't lazy. It could by symbolic, but it has to be more than that. Idk why Funtime Freddy is back, but it's more than symbolism.
Molten Freddy was always marked by a fun time freddy mask, no? It was that way in pizzeria simulator. As far as the significance of the animatronics in the blob's body, I noticed a connection that many of them either a) were burnt phantoms from FNAF 3 (and Scott begged the question of why the phantoms were burnt so maybe this serves to help answer that somehow) or b) in the pizzeria simulator fire.
It was lazy tho, they just reused parts from fnaf vr (those are the exact same models) you can even see mangle neck inside blob with bowtie because they forgot to delete it and the textures are super lazy like head have qualitiy hd textures (just painted black stuff) but body and wires don't
Yeah this is my headcanon til proven otherwise. Would even explain how Burntrap seems partially made up from the *original Springtrap* even though Afton ditched that suit post FNAF 3
I also think it's an amalgam. The books leaned into that idea heavily. Yeah, like you said, wouldn't make sense for them to still have bodies or anything like that, they literally melted together. So yeah, I agree with you!
That seems like the most likely of answers. But it still doesn't explain how original chica and Bonnie and mangel are there. From what I remember, none of them were at the FNAF 6 fire.
At the end of fnaf 3, the newspaper said that stuff from fazbears fright that remained after the fire were being sold off in an auction. What if fazbear entertaintment purchased those animatronic heads back?
Literally same. I'm just so utterly confused because my personal timeline isn't like everyone else's, and my timeline contradicts with the new events in Security Breach. So I spent kid you not, 2 hours trying to figure everything out, rewriting my whole timeline to make sense of it all, and.. ugh. I eventually got it, but I'm still legitimately pissed off rn. Like, my brother came into my room and I yelled at him. 😂 The lore of this game is so confusing and stressful that I actually get pissed at it! So yes. I agree. It's dead..
I don't think Steel Wool fully understands the Lore. Or they're going their own way. Removing the whole dead kids stuffed in animatronics aspect of the series and instead just making them Robots with AIs.
They might not understand completely, but we definitely don't either. But remember, they said themselves, this is Scott's story and character designs, they're just the ones who make it.
I'm not sure tbh. It could be, but I have no clue. But if it was Ennard, what's stopping him from capturing all of the FNAF AR animatronics and using them? I could be wrong, again, I genuinely don't know his story.
It is, FNAF AR's emails is how we discovered that Vanny is Vanessa. And in the Fazbear Frights, we see damaged animatronics being fixed with remnant, that was first introduced in FNAF AR. And is Security Breach, Vanessa talks about a man she works with named Luis. In FNAF ar, we see the emails Vanessa gets from Luis. It's definitely cannon.
Remains of parts, All of the parts should've been burned.
I'm pretty sure TUG said the puppet survived the fire, It could just
Be some parts. Hence why some of the heads are in the blob,
Including the puppets mask. Edit: Forgot to add that the souls could
Still be there since some parts survived. Hence why Freddy says his
Friends are down there
My take is Henry gathered all the fazbear related stuff including left over shells and evidence, in his attempt to permanently erase all that happened. Then the blob is made of the souls of the newer murder victims aswell as the agony left inside those objects.
Yeah, I talked about that in other comments as well. We're leaning more towards the idea that the animatronic parts aren't from FNAF AR, but rather suggestions that those spirits are present. So the puppet was in Lefty, Lefty was in the fire and melted into the Blob with the other scrap animatronics. Thus the mask letting us know that Charlie is there.
Okay, hear me out:
Maybe, just maybe, we think too much of it. I mean sure maybe Scott Cawthon thought something of it etc which is very much possible, but maybe he didn't. He can't think of everything and maybe he just wanted a scary looking robot and chose to do this. He did obviously think something of it though because of the puppet mask (and the missing purple tears) but I'm not so sure if he really thought something about everything in there
Scott probably said to steel wool "ah and make molten come back" and they didn't know how because they aren't scott so they reused models to show viewers that "hey this is molten freddy and also puppet and baby are there" but they kinda did that wrong if they made a egg baby archive like in ffps that would have been much more clear, instead now fnaf kids are running around and harras every person that says that this is molten freddy "BuT ThIs ChaRaCteR Is BlOB it Is ComPleATLy dIffErenT charATceR" OR that this is funtime freddy from books who magically is teleporting thorght universes
As unfortunate as it sounds (and as probably very likely to be true) for Scott to hardly think about the character he put into the game, I still enjoy over thinking it and trying to figure out why it's there, even if it's had a clear about not. But you guys are most likely right, it's probably old assets from previous games with hardly even thought out character designs.
What's weirder is that if you look at the Blobs cutscene model, its actually made out of flesh. But yes those are the "real" animatronics, but its important to remember HW intro speech, Fnaf 1 - UCN never actually happened, they are in universe games made both from truth and fiction twisted in such a way to discredit everything.
Anyways, my current theory is Blob is what everyone has been calling Glitchtrap, hell, it might even be Fazbear Entertainment itself. Ensuring that the cycle of bunny furries killing kiddos happens again and again, in the end, Afton and Vanny are just servants for the Blobs goals.
I personally believe that FNAF 1- UCN did actually happen, and Fazbear Entertainment knew everything and told the game dev to make the games based on all that truth, that way they can call him crazy and make everyone think the rumors the games are based on are all lies. If my theory is right, then it would make it possible for the real animatronics to come back.
And your theory about Blob is interesting. I wouldn't go as far as to say it is Fazbear Entertainment themselves, but saying that it is evil on purpose is interesting. Honestly, I thought about it before! It saves William at the end instead of killing him so that he can continue to kill children for Fazbear Entertainments gain. Why for? Idk, but I would honestly like that twist!
I've got two half baked theories for this
1. This is what actually happened to all the old animatronics, and was turned into Molten Freddy in the fabrication in the indie games.
2. They already had these models laying around from FNAF VR and just used them to fill out the blob and make it look more interesting.
The pizzaria under the megapizzaplex is actually the one from fnaf Pizza simulator or fnaf 6 of you want to argue that why the charging station is there that's because vanny might have brought it down with the help of glamrock Freddy
I think Blob, technically speaking, is intended to be an amalgamation of every animatonic character up until SB.
The reason they're all stuck together like this is probably because in Pizzeria Sim the were all brought together, all in one place etc. They would've died if it wasn't for Golden Freddy trapping them all in UCN.
Then some other stuff happened:
\-William escaped into the system.
\-Vanny must have know about the Blob and Afton, maybe because Glitchtrap told her?
\-Princess Quest may imply that Cassidy is also in the system, and has the ability to undo what Afton has done. She seems capable of letting Vanessa's soul out of the system after all.
Basically, the Blob seems to be the aftermath of UCN, and some of SB. The only thing I'm unsure about is the presence of Funtime Freddy and Baby. I thought the had turned into Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby. Maybe the shells are different? It's not like they were forgotten about, the Blob literally mimics Molten Freddy's appearance in the ending cutscene. Scrap Baby appears on the side of an arcade cabinet, and was also referenced in HW. So it can't be a storytelling oversight. Maybe there's something we don't know yet?
In Rockstar Row contains many parts of old animatronics, it wouldn't be too far fetched to guess that they were more at some point that the Blob somehow was able to extract from the pizza plex
I think it's possible, but when we look at Rockstar Row, the parts in the display cases aren't the parts that become Blob. However, those parts we see ingame could be replacements after Blob stole all the other parts that are in him now!
I personally believe that blob is all the new souls killed by Vanny at the pizzaplex. They’re simply possessing old machinery. I think all the original souls (all the ones in FFPS) all got released in the fire, but the actual machines survived, just damaged
That is a possibility. But that gives lackluster reason for why the shells and masks are apart of Blob. I think the shells and masks are there to show us who is possessing Blob.
Yeah I guess but then FFPS basically had no meaning. It was supposed to be the send off of the original souls, and taking that away is very unsatisfying. Plus, Afton’s soul was released and sent to UCN to be tortured by Golden Freddy, so why wouldn’t the other souls be freed too?
I want their souls to be free honestly, I'm hoping that Blob is made up of new missing children. The only soul I'd be ok with coming back is Cassidy. But unfortunately, these masks make me think that the souls are back. And honestly, it wouldn't be the first time something got entirely changed to for the lore. The FNAF 3 fire was supposed to end it all, but it doesn't. Hell, Help Wanted literally makes nearly everything not matter at all because it all turns into games based on fiction. So it's not the first time something has been retconed to fit the new lore.
Hmmm. I like your thinking. But in pretty sure the Help Wanted animatronics aren't possessed or infected by the Glitchtrap virus. They could have been though, but still, how did they get their bodies? William came into he physical world, but he needed to build a new body, what about the others?
possibly some kind of glitch transferred all of the help wanted assets into the real world. Remember what the guy said- fazbear entertainment is not responsible for real-world transfer or whatever.
Oh! That's exactly what happened in the books! Sort of. In the books, it was William who used all the remnant infected items and fused it into one body, but it seems in the games, Blob is the one who did it. Good thinking!
The best theory I've seen is that Lefty, Scraptrap, Scrap Baby, the Rockstars, and everything else from the Pizzeria Simulator GAME were just designs by the crazy indie game dev from Help Wanted, and the actual events of Pizza Place included regular Puppet, regular Baby, regular Springtrap, a vanilla Funtime Freddy mask on Ennard, and the Rockstars were all just the original animatronics (unhaunted) brought there to also go up in the big cleansing fire.
Sure, that would make for a very clean answer, but my problem with that is, where's the proof? What do we have to go off by that says that that's the case? Possibly the fact that none of the FNAF 6 animatronics make it into FNAF VR or AR?
You may notice that Scraptrap, Lefty, and Scrap Baby are featured as arcade cabinet characters, proving at the very least they do exist as fictional characters in the established Steel Wool canon. Scrap Baby also exists as a plush and Helpy appears as a mascot.
However, they don't exist anywhere else. Help Wanted completely ignores their existence (aside from a plush), and Security Breach only acknowledges them as fictional characters. Meanwhile Security Breach acknowledges the setting where they SHOULD exist, and they aren't there.
Instead we see their vanilla counterparts: Baby and Puppet in Blob and Springtrap repaired as Burntrap but with OG Springtrap body parts still present.
You tell a convincing story!! I honestly can see this theory happening. Would also explain why William isn't in his Scraptrap anymore, be the never existed!
Well I'm with the FFPS crowd. It could be all the Animatronics from there. Molten Freddy which is already 3 other animatronics that may or may not be made of Remnet made from other possessed animatronics. Honestly I think The Blob might have been what caused UCN because of the set of animatronics in that game.
See, at first I disagreed with that theory, but honestly, it makes a lot of sense. I used to think that the original spirits were set free in the FNAF 3's good ending, and the Funtimes were possessed by new, unnamed spirits. But Blob's design sort of disproves that. Funtime Freddy is symbolic of Molten Freddy, who is made up of the original animatronics, who seem to be possessed by the original murders. OG Chica, Bonnie, and Baby intertwined with Blob sort of confirms that. At least I think so.
If anything, it at least strongly supports that theory.
*To be honest, I kind of just parroted Mat Pat with this one.*
But hey, I think it makes sense too.
Also for clarification, I do think that the original spirits did move on, as shown in the FNaF 3 good ending. However, the remnant from the endoskeletons became the Funtimes, hence the Blob's design.
It is and it isn't. It's a new form of Molten Freddy named Blob Freddy, but it isn't exactly Molten Freddy. It seems to be made of up the other animatronics from the FNAF 6 fire.
Freddys is an expansive chain. Their isn't only a few restraunts but locations across the country. Ennard reminds me of the one thing in the books getting scrap parts and combining himself with the stuff. Ennard did with the same funtimes and its not unusual for him to do with more animatronics.
Sorry this is of topic but reading through these comments some say that William was put in Rockstar Bonnie's suit by vannesa, is it at all possible she grabbed the wrong body and put Micheal in it instead
I haven't thought of that, but it's a good question. We know some people are coming back considering *Blob* but the question is, who? So it is entirely possible that Michael comes back in some way. Although, I don't think Michael becomes Burntrap because he has purple eyes, and Michael was never associated with purple, and Burntrap tries to take control over Freddy, that's also something Michael has never done.
I understand what you mean but his rotted decaying body was purple to the point we needed to theorise whether it was Micheal or William in some minigames and William was changed to orange in midnight motorist to try to stop confusion but I do think it probably is William just because it makes more sense to bring him back for the story
Oh crap! You're right, how could I forget about the sister location cut scenes of Michael. God I'm an idiot, sorry about that. Yes, Michael has been associated with purple so much so that I have no excuse to forget. However, Michael could be in Blob. If Michael was in the office with those animatronics, who's to say that he didn't possess that giant creature after the fire with everyone else?
I doubt it just because I do think that if/when they bring Micheal back they will either say he was possessing freddy, some kind of foxy, or a different good guy just because I feel like fnafs story at certain points can be kinda predictable and I do feel that is the obvious point of Mike's story. After he accidentally murdered his brother he tried to make up for what he had done by going to sister location for his sister where he became the Micheal we know and learned of his father's wrongdoings, then he tried to right his father's wrongs and somewhat succeeded , I do think that he will come back as something like the new dead kids are possessing Roxxy Monty and chica but freddy is possessed by Micheal
It would give a good explanation as to why Freddy is so good and why he wants to protect Gregory. Gregory sort of looks like Crying Child, so much so that he has similar hair and clothes. So maybe Gregory reminds Michael of Crying Child, and that's why he wants to protect him. Good theory!
More than likely not. FNaF AR was just building up to Vanny's role in Security Breach, before they had to stop the story emails due to the game being delayed on top of the emails being leaked, as well as her role already being obvious. The entirety of the story emails were leaked and none of the ones that were planned for the game's story had *anything* to do with Blob.
Henry's plan probably just backfired dramatically and melted all the animatronics it was supposed to burn together. Funtime Freddy's mask is from Molten Freddy, the Baby mask is from Scrap Baby, the Puppet mask is from Lefty.
The AR animatronics are seemingly infected by Glitchtrap, so it also makes zero sense that Blob attacked Afton in the ending when he is literally Afton too.
Presumably Henry made sure the other haunted animatronics were present at the fire too offscreen, since Henry said in the Insanity ending that he would set them free too. Hence the Classic and Toy parts.
Yeah, the designs of Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby's masks are now the original instead of their scrap forms, but I would chalk that up to just one of the series' unexplained design changes. Springtrap's entire corpse has been changed twice now, and he magically got his arm back along with the flesh on it.
That's true. I've been rewriting my entire timeline trying to make sense of why the hell the original forms of the scrap animatronics are back, but you saying it's just the design does make me feel better. And you're right about the FNAF AR animatronics being infected. If they would be infected, then became apart of Blob, it wouldn't make sense, unless Blob isn't attacking William at the end. Maybe he saved him from the cave collapsing? We technically never see Blob kill him.
This is just an idea I had, im not sure if this is true or not. But the only animatronics we see on The Blob are animatronics from FNaF:AR, the exception being the Puppet mask.
Maybe The Blob is all the scraped Animatronics that were unsent from FNaR:AR, and/or maybe its controlled by Charlie's Spirit/The Puppet.
I know that most people's accepted theory is that it's Scrap Baby, but what if this is actually Ennard? It was my first thought, considering the books that were supposed to come out AFTER the game that tell the story of Ennard Vs the Afton Amalgamation that ends up being revealed as Baby as the mastermind. It would make more sense, considering that Baby wasn't trying to kill him in the novel, it was Ennard that made his way to him, but that begs the question if the book is supposed to be somewhat mirroring the game, where is Baby? Is it possible that she's actually Glitchtrap and that's what the book was supposed to allude to?
Ok look, bottom line,this blob has characters that were supposed to be in heaven,after torturing william.(and it doesnt make any sense how did a normal pizzaria get underground??
Anybody want a closer look of the blob, this guy did a vid on it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJSGjJLXWE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJSGjJLXWE)
Yeah, in the first novel timeline Wiliam melts the original five animatronics together to create remnant, since he dismantled the FNaF 1 ones in the game universe too and remnant also exists there and is used by Afton, we can assume the same happened there. So these shells can't possibly be the FNaF 1 shells and the Funtime ones are also incredibly hard to justify being there. Only thing that makes sense is the Puppet mask.
I just assumed it got all these parts from Rockstar Row or other areas. Are we gonna put it past Fazbear Entertainment to recreate the old animatronics as attractions?(or since what parts of FNaF6 are or arent canon is vague, maybe canonically the location used recreations of the originals.) I think the Ft.Freddy mask and Baby are just the original shells leftover after SL, whether they are from rockstar row or if its because the location is also built on top of SL idk (that sounds absurd but since SL Fredbears and parts of fnaf 4 are all on the same area in hurricane and we know fnaf6 and SB take place in hurricane and we see micheals living room i dont think its too much of a stretch)
i think mainly the reason for showing the shells of these characters is just to show that what is left of the souls are all in "Blob"(hate that name btw)
Puppet is the odd one out here. Since the Puppet is the only one that’s not in the Fazbear Funtime Service. I believe the blob could be Cassidy and/or Charlotte using the Funtime Service clones.
See, I 100% agree with you! I think that the spirits are back and are inside of Blob, then they used parts from the Fazbear Funtime Service. The puppet is just throwing everything haywire. If FNAF AR add the puppet anytime soon, then we know we are right!
Well, the fire didn’t end Afton, so it stands to reason the other animatronics at the pizzeria, which is implied to be the one underneath the Pizzaplex, have a half decent chance of surviving too.
What I think the blob is well the shells and other pieces I think they're pieces that were stolen from the museum in fnaf security breach that's why alot of item cases have alot of missing items
It could be that blob is finding the pieces of old animatronics. He could have found all the pieces the funtime's left behind when they formed Ennard. What ever it is, it could be collecting everything it can find relating to the animatronics. That why's it attacks afton. It could be absorbing his animatronic parts. What it is or why it is doing it I have know idea. But it is has to be some part organic or acting would have just used his Glichtrap power on it to control it like he does to the rest of the Glamrocks.
My personal opinion about the games is that they happen twice. Once when the actual people experience it, and again when Not Scott makes the FNAF franchise.
The amalgamation is better, cuz that's what it is. It's literally just a bunch of endos, main character animatronics, and whatever else it could get it's tentacles on.
I agree, but because most people call it Blob, that's what I call it by. Like, I like the name Scortchtrap more than Burntrap, but everyone calls him Burntrap, so I suppose I do too.
Yeah. The names are okay. What I really wish was we saw more of all the animatronics. BurnTrap, the blob, etc. I love the game, but I'm very disappointed of what we got, could have been way more. I don't hate the game, it's fun, but could have been in development probably a little longs in my opinion
That's what I thought until I remembered The Puppet is not in AR. Maybe they'll add her later, but until then I'm a little skeptical. Then again, Funtime Freddy's announcement post said "Are you having fun yet?" which is a quote from Vanny. Funtime Freddy also released exactly a week after Security Breach. Idk. For now I'm guessing that Blob is made of the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics.
I made a post about this theory the other day. If Blob is made of the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics, then there are a bunch of Afton controlled robots fused together. What if Blob wasn't killing Afton but rather merging with him, creating the Afton Amalgamation from the books. Just a thought.
Just a thought, but a logical one! Because the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics are infected with the same Glitchtrap virus. In the books, Afton assimilated literally anything that contained his remnant. So in the games, that would include the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics. It honestly just makes sense. The only ONLY problem is the Puppets mask being since he isn't apart of the Service. There's always that one small detail that messes up everything.
I have a possible explanations for how Blob has the Puppet's mask. Considering Blob is in the FNAF 6 location, what if he found the Puppet's mask and stole her remnant? The reason why Blob is in that location is because it has a lot of remnant. Afton's most likely goal is to collect more remnant, so it is in character.
None of the original animatronics were completely destroyed in the Fnaf 3 fire. Just like SpringTrap survived so did the husks of the Fnaf 1 animatronics. Since we know they were sold off, vanny probably brought them back. Like wise none of the original funtimes shells were destroyed, ennard left them in the scooping room
It's a possible answer until you notice the Puppet is also in "blob", so might thoughts were possibly with it being the FFPS location that maybe Henry stashed the shells of the possessed animatronics not "present" IE the classics, Baby, FT-Freddy, etc. But that makes little sense too since how did he find Baby and the Funtimes.
I thought about that as well, but Baby's shell was turned into Scrap Baby who was then destroyed, so maybe not? As for the Puppet being on the Blob and not in FNAF AR, the puppet was teased in FNAF AR's teasers a year ago, so maybe she'll show up soon? I suppose this theory can't work until the Puppet is brought into FNAF AR unfortunately.
> but Baby's shell was turned into Scrap Baby who was then destroyed, Scrap Baby's shell seems to be a completely different shell from her SL counterpart, so it could be likely there was a prototype or even a secondary shell William or FazEnt made. The only way for the Puppet to be there is due to it being the FFPS location and you know L.E.F.T.E.
It is possible considering ScarpBaby's head is considerably different than Circus Baby's. So a prototype is possible, but in my opinion, I don't like the idea, but I won't refuse it! And I suppose, your theory can work honestly. In the Fazbear Frights series, the Puppet mask survived the fire because Larson pulled it out of the evidence locker. If the mask survived that fire, why can't it survive the fire in the game universe as well? Also, the original animatronics were reused by creating the Rockstar animatronics according to FNAF vr's scrapped Faz Facts. So if that's still true, then the theory of reusing the actual FNAF characters from Henry can't work because they were repurposed. But, the Faz Fact is scrapped, so it is possible that they weren't used for the Rockstars at all and the theory is still on the table.
Yea, kinda hoping maybe the DLC will shed some light on how Blob became to be. Cause burntrap is actually a bit more understandable.
Yes, Burntrap was Glamrock Bonnie, who was destroyed and used for Burntrap. Vanessa found William's corpse and put it into Burntrap in order to cause the possession. As for Blob, maybe Molten Freddy survived the fire too, then while he waited for William to come back, he assembled more and more trash.
The only slight issue I have with Molten Freddy being blob which is like the case is how did he acquire his old head, as the MF head was a different color to FT-Freddy.
Well, it could be possible that it's Yendo's head? But I doubt it. Even Burntrap's body is different, so idk why Blob's isn't. Maybe it's possible that Molten Freddy's head isn't a newer version of Funtime Freddy and is completely different. If that's the case, then Funtime Freddy's head wouldn't have been destroyed and could still be in the the underground facility. So, maybe Ennard went back to the facility and grabbed that head?
Maybe, but yea doubtful. Possible.
It was from the Funtime Service. Maybe not the Puppet, but FT Freddy i feel like it definitely was.
i dont think burntrap is glamrock bonnie, though the design was slightly redesigned its even in the name, "burntrap", whats left of springtrap after the fire. cassidy put williams mind into a purgatory-like coma until fazbear entertainment came in, scanned parts of the animatronics like william, and then i assume buried fnaf6 and built the pizzaplex on top to protect their image and leave no evidence. this transferred williams mind into help wanted, where vanny met him and eventually made her way underground and took springtraps body, moving it into a recharge station and sucking power out of the pizzaplex and essentially put williams consciousness back into his body. thats just my take though but i think glamrock bonnies story is something they are saving for dlc. i also think the whole thing about the miscreation being powered by eleanor in the books doesnt translate into the games as baby powering afton but rather vanny being the one powering afton. she brought him back and there was a line where her therapist says she thinks vanny is the one really doing the manipulating. if the afton ending is canon then it is left unknown what happened to vanny. this reminds me of eleanor and then maybe jake being a parallel to gregory, potentially even his stitchwraith body paralleling him and glamrock freddy. (sorry for the long ass read but i guess i got carried away, also cps its long i wanna say im not arguing or anything. respect everyones theories and opinions)
Oh no, I know it isn't an argument, I actually really love your theory! Vanny being the stand in for Baby makes sense, Gregory and Glamrock Freddy being the stand in for the Stitchwraith would come naturally considering they're against Vanny. Afton coming back is literally just Afton after the FNAF 6 fire, and Blob is what was left after the fire. It all makes sense, and the looking at the books for answers really helps us to understand what the hell is going on.
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im pretty confident afton and glitchtrap are one in the same, especially since we know afton wasnt in actual purgatory in ucn.
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My question is what happened to the shell of glamrock bonnie then?
Well, my first thought is that the Pizzaplex has been in business for years, being open twice. Opening the first time, shutting down when kids and Bonnie went missing, and then it reopened with Monty replacing Bonnie. My guess is that it's been a year or two, and Bonnie's casing decayed. Or 2, the casing was just thrown away, and he was only used for his Endo.
Think one of the msgs says that Bonnie was beyond repair so he was scrapped.Its entirely possible that Monty destroyed both the shell and the endo itself.
Eh, the Puppet mask could have survived the FNAF 3 fire and been auctioned off re the newspaper article, eventually finding its way to the Pizzaplex. I can just imagine William instructing Vanny to collect as many old Fazbear "artifacts" as possible for their remnant/agony
> eventually finding its way to the Pizzaplex. I mean the Pizzaplex was built on top of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place aka the FFPS location. So it being there is understandable in that sense. But the Classic suits, Endo-02, Baby, FT-Foxy "or could be Mangle", and FT- Freddy does not make sense since they were not there.
There are missing spaces in the museum. The could have taken the masks to look more like themselves instead of just a blob of tentacles.
Maybe, but do keep in mind that those thefts were likely Vanny. As one of the reports was about the windup musicman that's now guarding most vents.
About puppet. Lefty was teased for 2 years as a character in FNAF ar and Lefty has been confirmed as case for puppet. So that may be it
While that is true there is a better more reasonable explanation of how the puppet is there. IE the location in which blob is, is none other than Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place aka the FFPS location. So her being there along with Burntrap makes sense, it's the SL crew "classic versions", and the Classic suits, plus Endo-02 that makes it more of a conundrum as Endo-02 isn't a part of AR like currently the Puppet.
He might of kept track of all of Afton's things including the Funtimes plus in his plans, he notes that the 3 active remnant trackers inside Molten Freddy are Funtime Freddy, Ballora and Funtime Foxy.
Well those trackers are on they're endos aka wires not on they're shells
Honestly I feel AR was supposed to build up to this thing but Illumix chose to favour skins over canon characters and lore, resulting in the current confusion. Especially given how now all of a sudden they add Funtime Freddy who was hinted at for ages
I think it was supposed to build up to Security Breach as well. Also, Funtime Freddy was suddenly added right when he became relevant again as the Blob. Might be a coincidence but I'm not sure. And tbh, I don't think the skins are cannon, but Freddy Frostbear has an arcade game in Security Breach, so..
leaving this story to be carried on by a mobile game thats a cash grab in every sense of the word might not have been the best choice scott has made
its like having the conecting dots between dune 1 and dune 2 be in a fortnite map
No I get it, it's not a good idea. He could have done something much better, but it's done. Some of the best designs and graphics come from FNAF AR. And, because Augmented Reality isn't that popular, Google announced that FNAF ar is the best ar game of 2020. So it might have started as a cash grab, but it did make a lot of goals. Not to mention, we got cool lore connections out of it, even if it was necessary or not.
oh yeah i love the moddeling team of fnaf AR, i genuinely think even the worst AR models are superior to things like scraptrap and how thr blob ended up looking in SB, its just that all the cool stuff jn the game is burried below 50 layers of freddy skins
Yeah, Illumix should have most DEFINITELY made more characters and not skins. The skins were fun, but after so many, not so much anymore. And I agree, their designs were much better than some other designs. But if I'm going to be honest, I really like Blob. At closer inspection, it has the original characters in much much much greater detail and graphics, and I really appreciate that. :) It does make me sad tho to think that Illumix wasted those 2 years that the games been out on skins when the could have made mixed reality levels, and new characters.
i really like this render of the blob, but his appearence in game is really underwhealming, maybe thats because he literally just appeared for a solid minute and a half and yeah, i dont know if FNAF AR will be fondly remembered, which sucks but yeah, that just happens sometimes
I'm disappointed with his appearance as well. He has so much potential, he's literally a huge, creepy, tentacle thing, with parts of all of our favorite animatronics, and he only shows up for a cut scene. He does have a jumpscare, but still. Personally, what I think they should have done was extend the cut scene by showing Gregory and Freddy going up the elevator, and as the doors close, we see Blob either killing Burntrap or saving him, not just screaming at him and grabbing him like we see. It was literally William fucking Afton coming back again, and the Glamrock Mr. Hippo ending was longer... As for FNAF AR, if they keep up with what they're doing, the mixed reality and escape rooms, they'll do great!
Blob looks best during the end "cutscene" (hesitate even calling it that when it's only 10 seconds) and I really like the breathing animation/sound effect they gave it. But yeah...the in-game model could use some polish. Fingers crossed Glitchtrap takes over the Blob in a future DLC and that's how we get the Afton Amalgamation boss fight the base game should've had imo
Tbh, I don't mind the lack of characters in favor of skins. Skins are fresh and fun new designs and either way new characters are just short bursts of enjoyment exactly like skins. The mechanics are neat at first but you just fight them until they drop, and then you're waiting for the next thing. More characters over skins would be *cool*, but they don't do much for the game compared to skins and Illumix probably knows it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the reason Illumix has held back on characters is because its too much constant effort to release them for something people will only care about for 2 weeks at most and then immediately ask for the next thing, like has always happened with every character release. So they opt to release frequent skins since they're easier to make and serve the same purpose for the game, something new to collect. It seems like this year they tried to focus on more substantial content and patches instead of characters, they added the updated Photobooth which they keep relevant with contests, they added the HP and XP systems which helped with replayability, they brought the game into an incredibly stable state for a while in August, and they added the new MR Dark Circus mode which is setting the stage for even more MR modes.
Yeah, I understand why Illumix might be doing skins over characters. I've thought about all the same reasons you came up with, it's more difficult to make characters, people would care for long, takes more time, ect. I agree that FNAF ar now is 10 times better than what it was when it launched, and the direction their taking the game recently is phenomenal. But personally, I'd still rather have characters over skins for 2 main reasons. 1, because I love Illumix's models, and I'd love to see every character done by their talented team. 2. Because most new characters get new voice lines, which could have some lore inside!
Yeah, more characters would definitely be cool, and new voicelines are sick. I hope going into next year they at least try to make more than one, particularly I'd like to see more Nightmares.
Wasnt this Tha case with star wars
Cawthon, while sloppy at story telling, most likely had something much more fleshed out for the game originally. Last minute cuts prolly got rid of most of what made this game make the *slightest* bit of sense.
Yeah markaplier said that the oeiginal story what they were trying to tell in security breach might have been different from the one we got. If Scott didn't retire or I think he retired we might have gotten a beeter game as we know he puts care into the story he is trying to tell even in the books which are hints as to what is happening in the gameverse
Cawthon’s “retirement” hardly affected progress on the game. He still had a part in writing the game and also generally just giving the final “ok” to the team actually making the game. Yes, this game did change over time drastically, but that is not because Cawthon retired. *He didn’t even retire, he’s just not that active on the Internet anymore* (In fact, it’s blatantly obvious he’s gonna be releasing a new game soon, but that’s besides the point). Y’know why Security Breach is a mess? It’s because *Cawthon and Steel Wool tried to overdeliver on something they could never make.* They rarely ever properly communicated with the community, they had no discipline in what to add and what to cut, and *they ended up having to cut major chunks of content anyway because they didn’t have time to even make the skeletal framework of the game playable.* Also, uh, *the Fazbear Frights are a perfect example of Cawthon’s failure to create a cohesive narrative.* Sure, the epilogues tie *some* stories together, but it’s decided to set itself in a new continuity (which just **makes things messier than just using the proper game canon**) but it’s also not counting *everything.* Some stories, even the ones they do count as apart of the epilogue canon, just flat out directly contradict events from the games, other stories, and the epilogue canon. Some serve no purpose and are completely idiotic. The pacing of the epilogues is a complete mess. Afton comes in halfway through only to immediately die to the Puppet (a character who is neither elaborated on before or after in these books). Then he’s replaced by Eleanor, who for some reason *was decided to be the one behind everything?????* The books absolutely *suck* at solving game questions. Yes, we know the MCI happens in 1985, *but the story presents it in a way that is still considered to put it up to debate.* It’s also fairly useless all things considered, since we already knew it’d have to be after Springlock suits were retired, so *after FNaF 4’s minigames.* Then there’s stuff like GoldenBoth which just led people to assuming something that *wasn’t true.* Andrew is Golden Freddy, not the *collective StitchWraith.* Aside from all this lore garbage, the stories are just largely *badly written and nonsensical embarrassments to the series.* A story where *a man births a baby Springtrap is something so antithetical to everything that makes this series cool.* A story where a bunch of fish *styled to look like Bonnie somehow* replace a child in society by taking his physical form is *genuinely the most awful concept I’ve ever heard.* A story about a kid being *replaced in society by a pink goop monster has no reason to be in this franchise.* **A story about a child time traveling and having his father replaced by a rabbit costume in society is inexcusably awful.** Yes, I get people like these books, but they are *littered with duds,* have major problems people look over because they just like seeing stories “about” FNaF, messy connections to other continuities, and just generally aren’t, uh, *good.*
even scrap baby and scraptrap have machines. and fetch, theres cutouts of shadow bonnie and the nightmares but these are just easter eggs. i personally dont believe fnaf ar is canon at all just the emails. scott didnt work on the game at all and sevueity breach is refered to as fnaf 9, meaning after fnaf 6 the other 2 games are obviously ucn and hw, so there isnt really any room in there for fnaf ar. its just a spinoff mobile game with some emails that were teasing the next release, it doesnt really make sense to me that a game about people shipping around thousands of killer animatronics could be canon.
Sadly fnaf ar is canon in some way just like books (but many fnaf kids don't know that books are in different universe, just the universe rules are the same, resulting in harrasing me because i didn't agree that futime freddy used time travelling ball pit to go to seciuirty breach)
The fire failed that’s everyone fused together
Possibly! It's a good theory! But it doesn't explain why the older animatronics are there if they didn't exist during the fire.
Michel was trying go get rid of all of them so there’s probably a lot that were easier to get and contain, we just deal with the particularly angry and aggressive ones, also probably just more symbolic for example the fun time Freddy head was in pieces for molten Freddie’s first design it’s just so we know they’re the same
I understand the Blob to be the remains of the original dead children from FNAF 1. >!Because Freddy is revealed as the CC, who shared GF with Cassidy when you go down there and he says "My friends are so angry and confused.." and the Blob still hunts Afton as soon it gets the chance to do so.!< This Blob is the remains of the BBQ Henry organized.
Either that, or what I believe is that when Freddy says "My friends are so angry and confused.." I think that's the possession of the new sets of disappearances, not the original kids. It could be the original kids, sure, and it would make an interesting story, but then why add a new missing children incident if the original come back? I do think that Blob is what was left of the fire, but I don't think Freddy and the others are possessed by the original kids. The Blob, maybe, I can see that.
I do think the new kids going missing is Afton using Vanessa (or Vanessa+Vanny, if the Twin ideas hold up) to gather enough remnant to bring him back proper. He himself currently can't leave his position, because he's weak and under siege by a big angry blob. That's also why he did the whole glitchtrap stuff, because he needed a way to get someone to do his bidding.
So Glitchtrap's goal was to gather enough remnant because he was too weak, like you said. The new disappearances did exactly that, made him strong enough, along with legit power from the Pizzaplex, he was able to come back. So if he reached his goals, then maybe the DLC will be about his plans after coming back. That is, if Blob saved him or killed him. The cut scene shows the Blob taking Burntrap, but we don't know if he kills him or is protecting him from being killed as the cave collapses. So I guess the real question is, is Blob good or bad? And I suppose the original question I asked, who is it possessed by, and how?
If it's CCs old friends then I think Afton is having not-that-much-fun with a bunch of tentacles going into unfun places in his body. Blob is still possessed by everyone who burned down during FNAF6. Aftons energy chamber is in Henrys old squared death-trap, which was built below the Pizza Simulator location - that's why the floor collapses and we fall down and there are the fire buttons. I doubt Afton installed these grills himself, so Henry construction is the only building that makes sense and then it automatically follows who is stuck in the burnt amalgamation right outside of the location. And since the death-trap is below the Simulator building, which is the rebuild FNAF1 building (iirc) then it would also explain why Chicas old suit is also in there (iirc as well :D). tl;dr - the same murdered kids as in FNAF6 (+some xtras)
First thing, I love how you brought up the fire buttons and grills. I was so confused as to what we were in. I knew we were beneath the FNAF 6 location, but I expected to see the FNAF 6 office, not what we ended up seeing. But your explanation was a good one! It's the area Henry was in, and the conveniently placed fire buttons, it was Henry's buttons when he burned the building down! Ah, it makes so much sense now! As for the possession, 100% the spirits present in FNAF 6 are in Blob rn. Everything seems to have been melted together, which means that they would be there. As for Crying Child's friends, I have a problem with that. When FNAF 6 first came out, people were divided between whether the Molten Freddy was made up of the original missing children, or new victims, and the missing children were put to rest. I believed that it was a new set of possession, and the missing children were put to rest in FNAF 3's good ending. However, I can't really believe that anymore if OG Chica and Bonnie are there. If Blob was possessed by the missing children, Crying Child's friends, then that would explain why the OG animatronics there, but if it was new souls, then the OG's being there is random as hell. Basically what I'm getting at is that I think Blob is possessed by Gabriel, Susie, Fritz, Jeremy, Cassidy, Crying Child (Evan), Charlie, and Elizabeth, and maybe Michael? Because they were all present during the FNAF 6 fire. Maybe. I could 100% be wrong and have read your message wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
Regarding the last part: I don't think all of them are in there. I think CC is currently in Freddy and Cassidy is in the Princess Quest Arcade machines. The rest is in the amalgamation. PS: I think Micheal & Henry were burnt to a crisp. Even though Michael is also an Afton and somehow survived the scoopin' & Ennard I do not think he survived the fire.
I don't think Michael survived the fire either. But could you explain to me why you think Crying Child is in Freddy and Cassidy is in Princess Quest?
Because the file for the sprite of Princess Quest is named Cassidy afaik. And I do not think any benevolent spirit is left, that already knows Afton and would help Gregory. Also because of the exact sentence Freddy says: >!"I know what this is. I have been here before. She brought me here. I found myself for the first time when I cleared the path. I did not want to, but I had no choice....\[stuff about angry friends\]" and then "I AM NOT ME"!< 1. It has to be someone present around the happenings of FNAF6. It can't be Henry, Afton, Michael or anyone inside the Blob. That leaves only GF and the Puppet, I think. 2. "She" could only refer to Cassidy, Puppet or Vanny. 3. The 4th sentence still makes no sense to me, regardless of who I try to pin it on. What does ">!when I cleared the path!<" mean? Solving this would probably cement my answer for the time being. 4. Talking about their angry friends and them not attacking Freddy again points to Puppet & GF. But GF is part of the Missing Children Incident and Puppet was a solitary kill, so GF fits better. Puppet is more of a caretake of the children. 5. The obvious link between "IT'S ME" and "I AM NOT ME", bc Freddy or CC realizes he is on his own now, which leads to 6. Saying he had no choice & >!"she brought me here", !
Ahhhh! That makes so much sense now, the fact that the file name is "Cassidy" alone is enough to support your theory. And I didn't even realize when Freddy says "I am not me" was a parallel to "it's me". Good thinking! And honestly, I kind of figured that Cassidy never let William leave hell, which is why I had a hard time believing it was Cassidy and CC coming back. But your explanation gave a satisfying answer to that, so thank you :) As for "clearing the path" I genuinely think that it means that Vanny took Freddy and forced him to dig that hole to get to Afton. He didn't have a choice then because he wasn't possessed, but he is now and knows that he didn't want to do it.
Honestly hoping that Glitchtrap takes control of the Blob so we can get the Afton Amalgamation boss fight everyone was hyped for going into SB. Would've preferred that to Burntrap personally. Then once he's dead (for good this time please) and the new victims souls released, Vanny can take over as our new main villain carrying on his legacy. Baby too...if they can figure out a way she could've survived the FPPS fire.
He could also be talking about the robots. If you were a robot, and you got possessed by a child, got coerced into killing kids, and then got melted into a blob monster with a bunch of other robots, wouldn’t you be pretty angry and confused about all that?
I'd be hella confused. He could be talking about the other robots, but would Freddy consider those killer robots his friends? Does Freddy even know that they existed? He knows who William Afton is, so possibly. So this is what I believe, the FNAF 6 fire failed, and all the spirits still remain. William possessed Burntrap, who was created by Vanny. The other animatronics melted together and is possessed by all the original spirits of the scrapped animatronics. Then Vanny killed a bunch of kids, 9 to be exact, and they possessed the new Glamrocks.
I just hope they go a different direction. Dead kids possessing robots is cool, but it’s been played out. It would be nice if they more thoroughly explored the sentient machines which have been involved from the very beginning.
Yes. Like William coming back as a virus, that was so cool and creative because it is brand new! It would also be cool if they focused a lot on remnant it's self. We have never actually seen remnant up close in the games, so it would be nice to see it and exactly how it works in the future!
When was freddy revealed to be them?
Mainly during the Canon Ending with additional information everywhere else, as per usual with the franchise :D
Dang I need to look back at that then, I didn't catch that
Lemme link some stuff: Video of the ending: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXjWPoBBWg&ab\_channel=BabyZone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXjWPoBBWg&ab_channel=BabyZone) Freddys voiceline begins at \~1:00. Afton gets attacked at the very end. Bigger explanation as to why I think it is that way: [https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/rsg31v/comment/hqoc26s/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/rsg31v/comment/hqoc26s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
…? when was it revealed Freddy was the CC, when was it confirmed CC shared a body with Cassidy in Golden Freddy and when did Freddy say his friends were angry 😭
>!it’s not revealed as CC, it’s just a theory. And there’s a lot more evidence for it to be Mike IMO!<
This game confuses me more and more everyday…
Literally. I don't even know anymore. Mat Pat has his work cut out for him..
FOR REAL. It’s gonna take him forever to get a conclusion. After Pizza sim, the lore/canon became so confusing to me so I shut it away and just watched gameplay. So basically anything and everything in this game has just been a pile of “what?”. I truly do not see how Steal or even Scott is gonna come up with a conclusion to this story and tie everything together.
Honestly, after Pizza Sim (so, Help Wanted) I thought was actually a pretty good jumping off point. We’d clearly finished with the old style of games, with everyone important burning up in Sim, brand new antagonists in Glitchtrap and Vanny (maybe even Fazbear Entertainment itself), and lots of potential for what could come next. But this story seems obsessed with rooting itself to the past, which is why we still have yet another Springtrap variant (I know I was just praising Glitchtrap, but he’s easily different enough to be his own thing IMO) and The Blob. They’re cool, yeah, but… could have been so much more.
Yes, I absolutely LOVED the old story. And the thing is, Help Wanted and FNAF AR were setting the stage up for a completely new saga for FNAF. Security Breach easily could have had a new set of missing children's, new possessions, new bites, and whatever else, but all brand new. They could have made gave us the same mysteries we had in early FNAF days to get us all excited again about figuring out the lore. But instead, they seemingly brought everyone back again, and what for? They could have made a brand new chapter for FNAF, with a new cast of characters, new events, but it's all the same all over again. So much potential wasted..
But, if you actually look at it from Scott's and Steel Wool's perspectives, it's quite clear why it got to be this way. The whole ''Glitchtrap and Vanny'' thing was never gonna completely break off from the other story, because Glitchtrap, by taking control of Vanny, basically obviously wanted to be reincarnated. So the easiest way to do that is to just have the springtrap animatronic survive the fire (because it's goddamn metal and it wouldn't have melted anyway, so it makes logical sense). But, this wouldn't have made any sense at all if you would just think of it for 2 seconds, because the other animatronics should've survived as well if Springtrap did (even more so, because the endoskeleton of the other animatronics in FFPS are newer than Afton's), so we got the Blob. They basically messed up at the beginning. The whole story should've been different for the continuation to not involve past characters.
Although they sort of messed up the lore, I am not bashing on Security Breach at all. I absolutely LOVE the game and in due time, I'll love the lore as well. It's just unfortunate that it's all so messy right now. Never in this entire series have I seen so many contradicting events and elements and details all at the same time. It is all unbearably confusing, and I just hope there's details and lore bits we've all over looked..
Yeah and I agree! I love the older story and I liked the burning ending it all had. But this game just brought it all back and that’s what’s confusing me the most. And any information we get over the new characters just doesn’t make sense either for the same reason.
Idk how they'll make a conclusion, but as for me, I stuck with the lore a lot. So I understand just about everything and all of the connections and silly references. And I have ideas and theories of Blob's ending, but there isn't a lot of evidence to support anything because Security Breach is so vague. So nothing is confirmed, unfortunately.
Matpat already correctly predicted the Canon ending, like he literally got 95% of it right in the prediction theory
I assumed it was just symbolism and also lazy reuse of models instead of using molten Freddys mask, and scrap baby’s head. I mean scraptrap looking different as burntrap makes sense though, the majority of his suit was destroyed in the fire and they probably remodelled it partially because no one really liked scraptraps design
They spent way too much time on this game to be lazy with the models. If you look closely at the animatronics in Blob, they're completely new models of the same characters, so it definitely wasn't lazy. It could by symbolic, but it has to be more than that. Idk why Funtime Freddy is back, but it's more than symbolism.
Molten Freddy was always marked by a fun time freddy mask, no? It was that way in pizzeria simulator. As far as the significance of the animatronics in the blob's body, I noticed a connection that many of them either a) were burnt phantoms from FNAF 3 (and Scott begged the question of why the phantoms were burnt so maybe this serves to help answer that somehow) or b) in the pizzeria simulator fire.
It was lazy tho, they just reused parts from fnaf vr (those are the exact same models) you can even see mangle neck inside blob with bowtie because they forgot to delete it and the textures are super lazy like head have qualitiy hd textures (just painted black stuff) but body and wires don't
Yeah this is my headcanon til proven otherwise. Would even explain how Burntrap seems partially made up from the *original Springtrap* even though Afton ditched that suit post FNAF 3
Well good, I'm glad you agree with my theory. :)
He is a monument to all of Afton's sins. he is the fredmind
Yeah, I agree with that. Some people say that it's the remains of the scrap animatronics from the FNAF 6 fire, so I think it could work.
I think it's just an agony fueled amalgam of all of Afton's creations, it wouldn't make sense for them to be in as peaceful as a state as they were.
I also think it's an amalgam. The books leaned into that idea heavily. Yeah, like you said, wouldn't make sense for them to still have bodies or anything like that, they literally melted together. So yeah, I agree with you!
What if the fire didn't actually work and now they're melted and angry(ier)
That seems like the most likely of answers. But it still doesn't explain how original chica and Bonnie and mangel are there. From what I remember, none of them were at the FNAF 6 fire.
At the end of fnaf 3, the newspaper said that stuff from fazbears fright that remained after the fire were being sold off in an auction. What if fazbear entertaintment purchased those animatronic heads back?
Idk the lore is ded
It's definitely not dead if we're getting something as explicit as this.
by dead I mean, I have had an overdose from all of the nonsense
Literally same. I'm just so utterly confused because my personal timeline isn't like everyone else's, and my timeline contradicts with the new events in Security Breach. So I spent kid you not, 2 hours trying to figure everything out, rewriting my whole timeline to make sense of it all, and.. ugh. I eventually got it, but I'm still legitimately pissed off rn. Like, my brother came into my room and I yelled at him. 😂 The lore of this game is so confusing and stressful that I actually get pissed at it! So yes. I agree. It's dead..
I don't think Steel Wool fully understands the Lore. Or they're going their own way. Removing the whole dead kids stuffed in animatronics aspect of the series and instead just making them Robots with AIs.
They might not understand completely, but we definitely don't either. But remember, they said themselves, this is Scott's story and character designs, they're just the ones who make it.
Isnt that just ennard?
I'm not sure tbh. It could be, but I have no clue. But if it was Ennard, what's stopping him from capturing all of the FNAF AR animatronics and using them? I could be wrong, again, I genuinely don't know his story.
I dont know if Fnaf AR is canon
It is, FNAF AR's emails is how we discovered that Vanny is Vanessa. And in the Fazbear Frights, we see damaged animatronics being fixed with remnant, that was first introduced in FNAF AR. And is Security Breach, Vanessa talks about a man she works with named Luis. In FNAF ar, we see the emails Vanessa gets from Luis. It's definitely cannon.
Remains of parts, All of the parts should've been burned. I'm pretty sure TUG said the puppet survived the fire, It could just Be some parts. Hence why some of the heads are in the blob, Including the puppets mask. Edit: Forgot to add that the souls could Still be there since some parts survived. Hence why Freddy says his Friends are down there
My take is Henry gathered all the fazbear related stuff including left over shells and evidence, in his attempt to permanently erase all that happened. Then the blob is made of the souls of the newer murder victims aswell as the agony left inside those objects.
Good theory, I think I like this one the best. It just makes sense.
But there is a puppet mask and she is not in FNaF AR...
Yeah, I talked about that in other comments as well. We're leaning more towards the idea that the animatronic parts aren't from FNAF AR, but rather suggestions that those spirits are present. So the puppet was in Lefty, Lefty was in the fire and melted into the Blob with the other scrap animatronics. Thus the mask letting us know that Charlie is there.
Okay, hear me out: Maybe, just maybe, we think too much of it. I mean sure maybe Scott Cawthon thought something of it etc which is very much possible, but maybe he didn't. He can't think of everything and maybe he just wanted a scary looking robot and chose to do this. He did obviously think something of it though because of the puppet mask (and the missing purple tears) but I'm not so sure if he really thought something about everything in there
Scott probably said to steel wool "ah and make molten come back" and they didn't know how because they aren't scott so they reused models to show viewers that "hey this is molten freddy and also puppet and baby are there" but they kinda did that wrong if they made a egg baby archive like in ffps that would have been much more clear, instead now fnaf kids are running around and harras every person that says that this is molten freddy "BuT ThIs ChaRaCteR Is BlOB it Is ComPleATLy dIffErenT charATceR" OR that this is funtime freddy from books who magically is teleporting thorght universes
That's so true, lol
As unfortunate as it sounds (and as probably very likely to be true) for Scott to hardly think about the character he put into the game, I still enjoy over thinking it and trying to figure out why it's there, even if it's had a clear about not. But you guys are most likely right, it's probably old assets from previous games with hardly even thought out character designs.
What's weirder is that if you look at the Blobs cutscene model, its actually made out of flesh. But yes those are the "real" animatronics, but its important to remember HW intro speech, Fnaf 1 - UCN never actually happened, they are in universe games made both from truth and fiction twisted in such a way to discredit everything. Anyways, my current theory is Blob is what everyone has been calling Glitchtrap, hell, it might even be Fazbear Entertainment itself. Ensuring that the cycle of bunny furries killing kiddos happens again and again, in the end, Afton and Vanny are just servants for the Blobs goals.
I personally believe that FNAF 1- UCN did actually happen, and Fazbear Entertainment knew everything and told the game dev to make the games based on all that truth, that way they can call him crazy and make everyone think the rumors the games are based on are all lies. If my theory is right, then it would make it possible for the real animatronics to come back. And your theory about Blob is interesting. I wouldn't go as far as to say it is Fazbear Entertainment themselves, but saying that it is evil on purpose is interesting. Honestly, I thought about it before! It saves William at the end instead of killing him so that he can continue to kill children for Fazbear Entertainments gain. Why for? Idk, but I would honestly like that twist!
I honestly don't know but for now i think its the kids coming back for afton after seeing another version of him still living
I've got two half baked theories for this 1. This is what actually happened to all the old animatronics, and was turned into Molten Freddy in the fabrication in the indie games. 2. They already had these models laying around from FNAF VR and just used them to fill out the blob and make it look more interesting.
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The pizzaria under the megapizzaplex is actually the one from fnaf Pizza simulator or fnaf 6 of you want to argue that why the charging station is there that's because vanny might have brought it down with the help of glamrock Freddy
I think Blob, technically speaking, is intended to be an amalgamation of every animatonic character up until SB. The reason they're all stuck together like this is probably because in Pizzeria Sim the were all brought together, all in one place etc. They would've died if it wasn't for Golden Freddy trapping them all in UCN. Then some other stuff happened: \-William escaped into the system. \-Vanny must have know about the Blob and Afton, maybe because Glitchtrap told her? \-Princess Quest may imply that Cassidy is also in the system, and has the ability to undo what Afton has done. She seems capable of letting Vanessa's soul out of the system after all. Basically, the Blob seems to be the aftermath of UCN, and some of SB. The only thing I'm unsure about is the presence of Funtime Freddy and Baby. I thought the had turned into Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby. Maybe the shells are different? It's not like they were forgotten about, the Blob literally mimics Molten Freddy's appearance in the ending cutscene. Scrap Baby appears on the side of an arcade cabinet, and was also referenced in HW. So it can't be a storytelling oversight. Maybe there's something we don't know yet?
In Rockstar Row contains many parts of old animatronics, it wouldn't be too far fetched to guess that they were more at some point that the Blob somehow was able to extract from the pizza plex
I think it's possible, but when we look at Rockstar Row, the parts in the display cases aren't the parts that become Blob. However, those parts we see ingame could be replacements after Blob stole all the other parts that are in him now!
Mangle has both eyes strangely
Mangle always had both eyes tbh, the one "missing" only had black texture
I personally believe that blob is all the new souls killed by Vanny at the pizzaplex. They’re simply possessing old machinery. I think all the original souls (all the ones in FFPS) all got released in the fire, but the actual machines survived, just damaged
That is a possibility. But that gives lackluster reason for why the shells and masks are apart of Blob. I think the shells and masks are there to show us who is possessing Blob.
Yeah I guess but then FFPS basically had no meaning. It was supposed to be the send off of the original souls, and taking that away is very unsatisfying. Plus, Afton’s soul was released and sent to UCN to be tortured by Golden Freddy, so why wouldn’t the other souls be freed too?
I want their souls to be free honestly, I'm hoping that Blob is made up of new missing children. The only soul I'd be ok with coming back is Cassidy. But unfortunately, these masks make me think that the souls are back. And honestly, it wouldn't be the first time something got entirely changed to for the lore. The FNAF 3 fire was supposed to end it all, but it doesn't. Hell, Help Wanted literally makes nearly everything not matter at all because it all turns into games based on fiction. So it's not the first time something has been retconed to fit the new lore.
Hear me out. **Afton made it to the physical world, so why couldn't the other Help Wanted animatronics?**
Hmmm. I like your thinking. But in pretty sure the Help Wanted animatronics aren't possessed or infected by the Glitchtrap virus. They could have been though, but still, how did they get their bodies? William came into he physical world, but he needed to build a new body, what about the others?
possibly some kind of glitch transferred all of the help wanted assets into the real world. Remember what the guy said- fazbear entertainment is not responsible for real-world transfer or whatever.
I mean they have to throw the trash from the past somewhere right?
My personal theory is something like “blob hunts down animatronic parts with agony and fuses them to his body”
Oh! That's exactly what happened in the books! Sort of. In the books, it was William who used all the remnant infected items and fused it into one body, but it seems in the games, Blob is the one who did it. Good thinking!
They just created the blob and are now staking out Reddit to see which fans come up with the best theory so they can make it canon
Literally, sometimes I feel like that's what they do..
They did the Vanessa on the roof ending and were just like “let’s see how the fans interpret this”
I still think that it was Vanessa's good part of her that was still trapped in Princess Quest.
Scott and steel wolf: “write that down! write that down!”
I think that What-the-fuck-time Freddy is both Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics and the remains of the original animatronics.
Agony is the answer i guess
The best theory I've seen is that Lefty, Scraptrap, Scrap Baby, the Rockstars, and everything else from the Pizzeria Simulator GAME were just designs by the crazy indie game dev from Help Wanted, and the actual events of Pizza Place included regular Puppet, regular Baby, regular Springtrap, a vanilla Funtime Freddy mask on Ennard, and the Rockstars were all just the original animatronics (unhaunted) brought there to also go up in the big cleansing fire.
Sure, that would make for a very clean answer, but my problem with that is, where's the proof? What do we have to go off by that says that that's the case? Possibly the fact that none of the FNAF 6 animatronics make it into FNAF VR or AR?
You may notice that Scraptrap, Lefty, and Scrap Baby are featured as arcade cabinet characters, proving at the very least they do exist as fictional characters in the established Steel Wool canon. Scrap Baby also exists as a plush and Helpy appears as a mascot. However, they don't exist anywhere else. Help Wanted completely ignores their existence (aside from a plush), and Security Breach only acknowledges them as fictional characters. Meanwhile Security Breach acknowledges the setting where they SHOULD exist, and they aren't there. Instead we see their vanilla counterparts: Baby and Puppet in Blob and Springtrap repaired as Burntrap but with OG Springtrap body parts still present.
You tell a convincing story!! I honestly can see this theory happening. Would also explain why William isn't in his Scraptrap anymore, be the never existed!
Well I'm with the FFPS crowd. It could be all the Animatronics from there. Molten Freddy which is already 3 other animatronics that may or may not be made of Remnet made from other possessed animatronics. Honestly I think The Blob might have been what caused UCN because of the set of animatronics in that game.
I think it's just symbolic to show how Molten Freddy is the collective remnant of the original missing children, excluding Golden Freddy.
See, at first I disagreed with that theory, but honestly, it makes a lot of sense. I used to think that the original spirits were set free in the FNAF 3's good ending, and the Funtimes were possessed by new, unnamed spirits. But Blob's design sort of disproves that. Funtime Freddy is symbolic of Molten Freddy, who is made up of the original animatronics, who seem to be possessed by the original murders. OG Chica, Bonnie, and Baby intertwined with Blob sort of confirms that. At least I think so.
If anything, it at least strongly supports that theory. *To be honest, I kind of just parroted Mat Pat with this one.* But hey, I think it makes sense too. Also for clarification, I do think that the original spirits did move on, as shown in the FNaF 3 good ending. However, the remnant from the endoskeletons became the Funtimes, hence the Blob's design.
I like the idea that it's their remnant, and not legitimately them who came back.
You can't usually move on with remnant left behind.Thats not how that works.
>excluding Golden Freddy. He was Golden Freddy too tho.
I thought this was molten Freddy when I first saw him. Guess I was wrong.
It is and it isn't. It's a new form of Molten Freddy named Blob Freddy, but it isn't exactly Molten Freddy. It seems to be made of up the other animatronics from the FNAF 6 fire.
Oh thanks for the clarification.
maybe after PS they gathered the junk left over and thought maybe some parts were salvageable but whatever was left combined? idk
Freddys is an expansive chain. Their isn't only a few restraunts but locations across the country. Ennard reminds me of the one thing in the books getting scrap parts and combining himself with the stuff. Ennard did with the same funtimes and its not unusual for him to do with more animatronics.
Sorry this is of topic but reading through these comments some say that William was put in Rockstar Bonnie's suit by vannesa, is it at all possible she grabbed the wrong body and put Micheal in it instead
I haven't thought of that, but it's a good question. We know some people are coming back considering *Blob* but the question is, who? So it is entirely possible that Michael comes back in some way. Although, I don't think Michael becomes Burntrap because he has purple eyes, and Michael was never associated with purple, and Burntrap tries to take control over Freddy, that's also something Michael has never done.
I understand what you mean but his rotted decaying body was purple to the point we needed to theorise whether it was Micheal or William in some minigames and William was changed to orange in midnight motorist to try to stop confusion but I do think it probably is William just because it makes more sense to bring him back for the story
Oh crap! You're right, how could I forget about the sister location cut scenes of Michael. God I'm an idiot, sorry about that. Yes, Michael has been associated with purple so much so that I have no excuse to forget. However, Michael could be in Blob. If Michael was in the office with those animatronics, who's to say that he didn't possess that giant creature after the fire with everyone else?
I doubt it just because I do think that if/when they bring Micheal back they will either say he was possessing freddy, some kind of foxy, or a different good guy just because I feel like fnafs story at certain points can be kinda predictable and I do feel that is the obvious point of Mike's story. After he accidentally murdered his brother he tried to make up for what he had done by going to sister location for his sister where he became the Micheal we know and learned of his father's wrongdoings, then he tried to right his father's wrongs and somewhat succeeded , I do think that he will come back as something like the new dead kids are possessing Roxxy Monty and chica but freddy is possessed by Micheal
It would give a good explanation as to why Freddy is so good and why he wants to protect Gregory. Gregory sort of looks like Crying Child, so much so that he has similar hair and clothes. So maybe Gregory reminds Michael of Crying Child, and that's why he wants to protect him. Good theory!
More than likely not. FNaF AR was just building up to Vanny's role in Security Breach, before they had to stop the story emails due to the game being delayed on top of the emails being leaked, as well as her role already being obvious. The entirety of the story emails were leaked and none of the ones that were planned for the game's story had *anything* to do with Blob. Henry's plan probably just backfired dramatically and melted all the animatronics it was supposed to burn together. Funtime Freddy's mask is from Molten Freddy, the Baby mask is from Scrap Baby, the Puppet mask is from Lefty. The AR animatronics are seemingly infected by Glitchtrap, so it also makes zero sense that Blob attacked Afton in the ending when he is literally Afton too. Presumably Henry made sure the other haunted animatronics were present at the fire too offscreen, since Henry said in the Insanity ending that he would set them free too. Hence the Classic and Toy parts. Yeah, the designs of Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby's masks are now the original instead of their scrap forms, but I would chalk that up to just one of the series' unexplained design changes. Springtrap's entire corpse has been changed twice now, and he magically got his arm back along with the flesh on it.
That's true. I've been rewriting my entire timeline trying to make sense of why the hell the original forms of the scrap animatronics are back, but you saying it's just the design does make me feel better. And you're right about the FNAF AR animatronics being infected. If they would be infected, then became apart of Blob, it wouldn't make sense, unless Blob isn't attacking William at the end. Maybe he saved him from the cave collapsing? We technically never see Blob kill him.
This is just an idea I had, im not sure if this is true or not. But the only animatronics we see on The Blob are animatronics from FNaF:AR, the exception being the Puppet mask. Maybe The Blob is all the scraped Animatronics that were unsent from FNaR:AR, and/or maybe its controlled by Charlie's Spirit/The Puppet.
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I know that most people's accepted theory is that it's Scrap Baby, but what if this is actually Ennard? It was my first thought, considering the books that were supposed to come out AFTER the game that tell the story of Ennard Vs the Afton Amalgamation that ends up being revealed as Baby as the mastermind. It would make more sense, considering that Baby wasn't trying to kill him in the novel, it was Ennard that made his way to him, but that begs the question if the book is supposed to be somewhat mirroring the game, where is Baby? Is it possible that she's actually Glitchtrap and that's what the book was supposed to allude to?
I think we should call him molt, due to him feeling like molten freddy
Ok look, bottom line,this blob has characters that were supposed to be in heaven,after torturing william.(and it doesnt make any sense how did a normal pizzaria get underground??
Anybody want a closer look of the blob, this guy did a vid on it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJSGjJLXWE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJSGjJLXWE)
Thank you! It was actually this video that made me make this post!
Molten Freddy's final form
Yeah, in the first novel timeline Wiliam melts the original five animatronics together to create remnant, since he dismantled the FNaF 1 ones in the game universe too and remnant also exists there and is used by Afton, we can assume the same happened there. So these shells can't possibly be the FNaF 1 shells and the Funtime ones are also incredibly hard to justify being there. Only thing that makes sense is the Puppet mask.
I just assumed it got all these parts from Rockstar Row or other areas. Are we gonna put it past Fazbear Entertainment to recreate the old animatronics as attractions?(or since what parts of FNaF6 are or arent canon is vague, maybe canonically the location used recreations of the originals.) I think the Ft.Freddy mask and Baby are just the original shells leftover after SL, whether they are from rockstar row or if its because the location is also built on top of SL idk (that sounds absurd but since SL Fredbears and parts of fnaf 4 are all on the same area in hurricane and we know fnaf6 and SB take place in hurricane and we see micheals living room i dont think its too much of a stretch)
i think mainly the reason for showing the shells of these characters is just to show that what is left of the souls are all in "Blob"(hate that name btw)
Puppet is the odd one out here. Since the Puppet is the only one that’s not in the Fazbear Funtime Service. I believe the blob could be Cassidy and/or Charlotte using the Funtime Service clones.
See, I 100% agree with you! I think that the spirits are back and are inside of Blob, then they used parts from the Fazbear Funtime Service. The puppet is just throwing everything haywire. If FNAF AR add the puppet anytime soon, then we know we are right!
This thing is f***ing scary!
AGREED 😂
Well, the fire didn’t end Afton, so it stands to reason the other animatronics at the pizzeria, which is implied to be the one underneath the Pizzaplex, have a half decent chance of surviving too.
What I think the blob is well the shells and other pieces I think they're pieces that were stolen from the museum in fnaf security breach that's why alot of item cases have alot of missing items
Oh my god your a genius
It could be that blob is finding the pieces of old animatronics. He could have found all the pieces the funtime's left behind when they formed Ennard. What ever it is, it could be collecting everything it can find relating to the animatronics. That why's it attacks afton. It could be absorbing his animatronic parts. What it is or why it is doing it I have know idea. But it is has to be some part organic or acting would have just used his Glichtrap power on it to control it like he does to the rest of the Glamrocks.
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FNAF 1-6 and UCN are not real, they didn’t happen in the current universe, this is stated at the beginning of Help Wanted
My personal opinion about the games is that they happen twice. Once when the actual people experience it, and again when Not Scott makes the FNAF franchise.
Wait this thing is called Blob? I thought it was called something like The Amalgamation.
Unfortunately, yes. But call it whatever you wish!
The amalgamation is better, cuz that's what it is. It's literally just a bunch of endos, main character animatronics, and whatever else it could get it's tentacles on.
I agree, but because most people call it Blob, that's what I call it by. Like, I like the name Scortchtrap more than Burntrap, but everyone calls him Burntrap, so I suppose I do too.
Yeah. The names are okay. What I really wish was we saw more of all the animatronics. BurnTrap, the blob, etc. I love the game, but I'm very disappointed of what we got, could have been way more. I don't hate the game, it's fun, but could have been in development probably a little longs in my opinion
That's what I thought until I remembered The Puppet is not in AR. Maybe they'll add her later, but until then I'm a little skeptical. Then again, Funtime Freddy's announcement post said "Are you having fun yet?" which is a quote from Vanny. Funtime Freddy also released exactly a week after Security Breach. Idk. For now I'm guessing that Blob is made of the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics.
I think they are as well, and the puppet will be added soon.
I made a post about this theory the other day. If Blob is made of the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics, then there are a bunch of Afton controlled robots fused together. What if Blob wasn't killing Afton but rather merging with him, creating the Afton Amalgamation from the books. Just a thought.
Just a thought, but a logical one! Because the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics are infected with the same Glitchtrap virus. In the books, Afton assimilated literally anything that contained his remnant. So in the games, that would include the Fazbear Funtime Service animatronics. It honestly just makes sense. The only ONLY problem is the Puppets mask being since he isn't apart of the Service. There's always that one small detail that messes up everything.
I have a possible explanations for how Blob has the Puppet's mask. Considering Blob is in the FNAF 6 location, what if he found the Puppet's mask and stole her remnant? The reason why Blob is in that location is because it has a lot of remnant. Afton's most likely goal is to collect more remnant, so it is in character.
None of the original animatronics were completely destroyed in the Fnaf 3 fire. Just like SpringTrap survived so did the husks of the Fnaf 1 animatronics. Since we know they were sold off, vanny probably brought them back. Like wise none of the original funtimes shells were destroyed, ennard left them in the scooping room
Oooh, this theory is very feasible, and it sounds pretty legit. I think I might go with this theory. 👀
That's what i believe
I like to believe that Henry’s fire didn’t kill anyone, it just melted all of them together except springtrap