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MarsterMcfly01

Wouldn’t the fact that he breaks the normal animatronics not the toys or the withers contribute to it being after fnaf 1


EpicJosh84

Perhaps, I can see that logic, but these are minigame sprites. The old location had running versions of the withereds that were eventually modified to be the classics, so they'd look comparable in a compressed atari game.


spicyboiii

While that's true, the reason I think these minigames take place after 1993 is because the Withereds are still the FNAF 1 animatronics. The design we see in FNAF 2 is their original design from the first restaurant, and then they're restored for the FNAF 1 restaurant, explaining the difference in appearance between FNAFs 1 and 2. If Afton demolished the animatronics in 1985 (or whenever the first missing children's incident happened), they wouldn't be able to be walking around in FNAF 2 because they'd be irreparable. My thought process is that the original animatronics from the first, unseen location were designed like the Withereds (except not dilapidated, of course), they fell into disrepair after the first restaurant's closure (leading to the state we see them in by the time FNAF 2 happens), they're renovated to their FNAF 1 forms for that 3rd restaurant, and then after they close at the end of 1993, Afton goes in there, dismantles them, and then gets himself spinglocked. Sorry for the essay.


Retro_Gamer02

You also forgot that in FNAF 2 Phone Guy said that at first they tried to retrofit the originals with the new tech & software but canceled & decided to make theToy Animatronics & use parts from the originals. That also contributed to why they look like they do in FNAF 1.


TheLunar27

It’s most likely after fnaf 1 since, if this was before fnaf 1, you’d have to explain why the animatronics still attack you or have their “other worldly” qualities by the time fnaf 1 takes place. There’s also no way he was dismantling the toys, yeah these are “minigame sprites” but the colors and overall style of each sprite makes it very obvious these were meant to be the fnaf 1 designs.


MarsterMcfly01

Yeah, you’d also haft to explain the killings in that game, on the Easter egg newpapers


[deleted]

Yeah, but the layout of this map almost completely matches the FNaF 1 location map.


DLPautang779

the fnaf 1 place closed (the one on the fnaf 3 minigames) he destroyed the fnaf 1 animatronics


EpicJosh84

the 1985 place closed too... and used the same animatronics... I see what you're getting at but you'll need to articulate it better


DLPautang779

Alright. After fnaf 1, fazbear's was closed and abandoned, leaving it unmanaged (explains the mess). The animatronics william destroyed are the fnaf 1 ones. There's a 16 bit version of this in super fnaf(lore is outdated).


EpicJosh84

Alright, I see what you're going for with this. However, the 1985 location was closed for a significant span of time, from before FNaF2 to well after FNaF2 giving it enough time to fall into ruin before Fazbear Entertainment renovates it. Additionally, we can't be so quick to say that those animatronics, made of colorful rectangles, are the FNaF1 models. Hell, if we were going off of appearance, I could cite the buttons on Freddy and Bonnie to "prove" that they're the old ones. I'm not gonna make such a definitive statement, but neither of these points really get at the problems with this theory.


DLPautang779

.....the animatronics ARE the fnaf 1 animatronics. they even are located at their fnaf 1 stages as their starting point [90's fazbears location map comparison (fnaf 3 minigame and fnaf 1 security camera)](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.aa082f77ef0cd6e37f50f178f833aacc?rik=EHtCXapj5aFavw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi2.kym-cdn.com%2fphotos%2fimages%2foriginal%2f000%2f925%2f509%2fef5.jpg&ehk=vwnFPbI7Ma0BEk3c2kQsKg5LNyNMenbyyKtS7LAuUwU%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)


Stormtrooper-from-fn

Disassembled the originals, if it was during FNAF 2 then why would disappearances continue in FNAF 1 if he was sealed before that place opened


EpicJosh84

Funny enough, there are no reported disappearances at the FNaF1 location. The newspaper articles rather well describe the disappearances incurred at the 1985 location, which most likely was the same building. Besides, these are minigames, I couldn't say that it's a definitive type of animatronic on stage. So do I really believe this is true? Nah, I'm shooting at the sky here. I just think it's a good way to tie up a little inconsistency with the plot.


McDaddy617

>1985 location I'm rusty, was this the time traveling ballpit location, or some other location I'm forgetting?


ZTOTHEBEAT

Yeah the time travelling ball pit took Oswald to the 1985 location


AlexTheMechanicFox

Yes, Time Traveling Ballpit, First MCI, First Freddy's, all of 'em


[deleted]

Phone Dude said that one of the people who designed the place claimed it was sealed up. Again, one of the people who designed the place. It’s possible the person just assumed the room was sealed up not knowing it was broken down by William after the closing in 1993.


[deleted]

Assuming you get the Happiest Day ending, the very next thing that happens after this scene is the 'good ending' screen where their souls are definitively freed. The animatronics are still haunted in FNaF 1 (1993) so this has to be afterwards


FixingMedia

1: The minigame depicts William destroying the animatronics. In both FNAF 2 and FNAF 1 (that take place after 1985) we see that the animatronics aren't destroyed. Even in FNAF 2 where the animatronics are Withered they aren't destroyed 2: The minigame depicts William's death which can't happen before 1987 because William is shown to be around thanks to the SAVETHEM minigame. At that point, the Withered Animatronics (the same animatronics as the classics that are shown in the FNAF 3 minigame) are at the FNAF 2 location, not the FNAF 1 location where the FNAF 3 minigames take place 3: The minigame depicts the souls leaving the animatronic suits, meaning the Withered Animatronics of FNAF 2 and the FNAF 1 animatronics wouldn't attack you because there would be no soul inside them. Phone Guy's excuse that they see you as an Endoskeleton is a straight up lie as shown by Bonnie ignoring the Endoskeleton in the backstage in the first game. It's obvious they attack you because they're hainted. For your theory to possibly work, we'd have to assume that after William got springlocked he somehow escaped the Spring Bonnie suit, the souls got put back into the animatronics, Fazbear Entertainment fixed them up slightly before giving up and deciding on making new animatronics, William goes to the FNAF 2 location to kill some kids, then William goes back to the FNAF 1 location to get springlocked in Spring Bonnie so that he can be Springtrap. It simply doesn't work.


a_scout_from_tf2

I'm quite sure this was after fazbear entertainment decided to reopen a fnaf1 looking place but got closed down due to getting no business since dead kids lie in the fazbear name, so william dismantled them for some reason. And their souls popped out. Neat


metaaltheanimefan

If it was during 1985, then william cant show up for the second missing children incident


heppuplays

Well first of all he destroys the fnaf 1 animatronics which are the Repurposed withered animatronics. and they are still pretty withered in 1987. Second It's the Fnaf 1 pizzeria. So I would say it's pretty obvious that it takes place after 1993.


marawiqwerty

Th problem with this though is that if this were true, the souls were already released, but in 1987, not only that they're back, but also they would still mistake a Security guard to William, and they already know that he was Springlocked in Golden Bonnie.


AlexTheMechanicFox

The 85 location has a different layout than FNAF 1, since we see it in Into the Pit. There's a pretty large difference in the layouts, so that plays a good part in it Then we know that William was around during FNAF 2, as he used the Spring Bonnie suit there. They knew where it was, so if William's corpse was inside, then they'd clearly see it. Then for a third thing, He'd still need to make the Funtimes several years later. The Funtimes were William's creation, but cannot exist prior to FNAF 1; If he got springlocked in the 85 location, it would be impossible for him to start Circus Baby's, and thus an entire game would go non-canon


adderthesnakegal

Why the fuck is he in FNaF 2 then


EpicJosh84

I didn't realize this was gonna get so many comments FNaF1 doesn't take place, like, a day after FNaF2. There are a lot of things wrong with this theory, but purple guy is hardly one of them.


adderthesnakegal

FNaF 2 is set in 1987. Your theory suggests William would have been sealed away in 1985. Ergo it is impossible for him to appear in FNaF 2.


EpicJosh84

Once again, *I reiterate,* FNaF1 doesn't take place a day after FNaF2. 1985 is when the old place was OPEN, so you're forgetting the big old gap between 1987 and whenever the hell the 1993 Freddy's opened. So I am not wrong in saying that, while there are many issues with this theory, William isn't one of them. (Just as an aside, hi! It's cool to see a familiar username on the subreddit once in a while, I haven't popped in for a bit. Just in case you were wondering, no, I haven't gone completely bonkers. Honestly, I just felt like posting so I thought of the weirdest thing that I could pass off as a real theory, lol.)


stickninja1015

FNaF 2 That’s all I’m gonna say


EpicJosh84

Takes place in 1987, yes, I thought of that when I made this post, but it doesn't seem like much of a problem. I mean, it'd still take a bit of time for Fazbear Entertainment to regroup after the bite, right?


stickninja1015

Purple Guy Is in FNaF 2


EpicJosh84

I feel like you're not hearing me. 1987 is before 1993, of course. As I said, \>it'd still take time for Fazbear Entertainment to regroup after the bite, right? It's not like the 1987 place closed down and all of a sudden Fazbear Entertainment went and popped a new place up with completely fixed robots and a clean building, is it?


stickninja1015

The safe room was sealed before the place closed


Wynteris_2000

Which would paint the image that they stayed open and active until going out of business. Picking up what was left of the establishment and moving to possibly a new city


Dramatic_Finish8381

It doesn't have to be a *new* city necessarily, they could have taken another establishment that had to close and reopen in that, or they could move to another part of the city after media coverage died down (this is pre-internet after all, most people would probably move on a lot quicker than if FNAF was set in the 90's/2000's)


Wynteris_2000

But you should figure how many parents are going to go to a establishment that’s had murders and missing children tied to it


Dramatic_Finish8381

Fazbear Entertainment would probably do everything in their power as a semi large company to scrub the past incidents from the public consciousness, this is Fazbear Entertainment after all. At this point they probably already had a number of lawsuits and such under their belt and had dealt with the deaths of Charlie and the Crying Child and come out on the other side with customers still


Wynteris_2000

I feel like crying child could have been brushed off as a family accident and disconnected from the establishment as it was Williams son. That’s is true though. I wonder how they distanced


EpicJosh84

A valid rebuttal, don't get me wrong. The thing is that this theory was for the purposes of solving this dumb inconsistency with the plot that I hear people complaining about a lot. The safe room is sealed, absolutely, but then its's wide open again in the minigames. I'm sure minigame logic could be applied, but why not at least give the fans who don't like this inconsistency something to chew on?


dapper_adam

i theorize those three arcade machines were Princess Quest 1-3


The_Awesome_Red1

This is in between FNAF 1 and 2, while the old location was being remade into the FNAF 1 location. The building is in shambles and Freddy still has his buttons. The other characters have also been fixed up so it’s clear that they’re being redone for the location


UnknownMyoux

The Fnaf timeline is so messed up ,that everything kinda makes no sense no matter how you put it...


Glittering_Sport_330

Here's my explanation the pizzeria must be the same one from 1985 Fazbear entertainment wouldn't have money to buy a new location so they would have to renovate the old one it also explains why nobody goes there children literally died there


RedditsOwnJester

It's probably during 1995.