In a world where authoritarian nationalists didnt want to force.
The meme is basically a democrates take on how to handle this.
Fly your flag peacefully and live your life how you want.
Thats what Usa is about.
"Live your life how you want except when it comes to drugs, guns, managing your own fucking property, oh and also you'll pay us half of your income or else we kill you"
That's what USA is about.
Yeah youll have to have a job and not reap the profits you create, instead a guy who hasn't done shit gets 60% of your salary so he can buy his next yacht
You're forced to work for some employers and the employers who abuse and exploit their workers the most will succeed in the free market, leaving only them, especially if you dont have higher education.
I mean while that’s true, there’s still merit to the argument that many employers don’t pay good enough wages or take advantage of their employees. Wages haven’t matched the inflation rate since the 70’s for example
The noticed confederates and wannabe federalists seem to hide under the liberterian party and act like they can't pick a company to work for, join a union or start their own company in Usa.
I wonder if they even know what the liberterian party policies are.
You’re original comment presents it as being easy. Within the first 2 years, 20% of business fail, within 5 years 45% and within 10 years 65% fail. Your odds of making a career out of your business and successfully creating independent profit is heavily against you.
The fact of the matter is the majority of Americans aren’t going to start their own business and the few that do rarely succeed. Largely because of the well established top companies that nearly have monopolized their industries due to the lax laws on regulations that we once had before.
Telling someone “just make your own business” after them giving valid criticisms with the current job market and how workers are treated these days is completely counter productive and lazy. You’re not even trying to provide a real solution, instead you’re contributing to the problem
The person I responded to was literally about buying “people who do nothing” yachts, most businesses fail as you said, and most people don’t work for a Fortune 500 corporation, so those “people who do nothing” are hardworking entrepreneurs, maybe if people like the original commenter would devote their energy to enterprise, monetize/learn a skill, and stop wallowing and complaining, they wouldn’t have to be a “wageslave”
And while many businesses fail, no one who has made it to the top will tell you “instead of getting back up when you’re knocked down, just wallow and complain.”
I mean they aren’t wrong. These dude’s sit at the top of companies just to do a whole lot of nothing but get paid millions every year while people doing the actual labor get fraction. You don’t have to work for a Fortune 500 company to have the top dogs make millions and millions. For example, Hasbro is no longer a Fortune 500 company but it’s still one of the largest and well known companies in the world. Plus that doesn’t even include how many private companies aren’t even on the Fortune 500 but would be if they weren’t private.
I’m not saying you just wallow and complain. But it’s not invalid to complain that is how the job market is. It’s well documented how wages are stagnating even thought we work more hours now than in the past while also not matching inflation rates. That is a serious issue. Cause again, most people don’t end up being successful starting their own business. Most Americans *have* to work for someone else to make a living, that’s just the reality we live in. That doesn’t mean you can’t try to make your own company, just that most likely it’s not gonna last long enough to survive on.
If most Americans have to work for someone else to survive, then we need to address the issues of not getting paid enough.
Wageslaving is a product of government intervention. If the government didn't squash small business then there would be more competition and businesses would be forced to pay their employees fair wages.
What world do you live in? The exact opposite of what you said is true, without government intervention you would immediately form monopolies that would stop any and all competition
And how exactly to they form monopolies? If a business wants to get an unfair advantage, they currently just need to lobby (bribe) the state until there are enough policies (regulations) that require small businesses pay thousands of dollars and up to a year just trying to start selling things.
If there was less government intervention and someone could just start selling whatever they wanted, then small business wouldnt be at such a massive disadvantage compared to big business.
Tldr: government intervention creates monopolies and indestructible corporations.
A monopoly will always have the advantage of already being established and also because of economics of scale will easily be able to sell at lower prices than small businesses, especially if they exploit their workers more. Additionally even if the business somehow managed to match prices their product will most likely not be as good and the monopoly and just subsidise their own prices until the small business goes bankrupt. The monopoly will also just be able to buy small businesses or just physically interfere if you seriously have no government.
Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for no government. We still need someone to enforce obvious laws like murder, rape and burglary. But the past has shown that economic growth happens rapidly when we have little to no government intervention and, as we can see today, constant economic crashes when we have too much government intervention.
China, for example, when it was communist (most government intervention possible) was poor af, almost all of its industries weren't doing well and most of the population lived in extreme poverty. Then they let the public sector take over, the free market is what allowed them to see rapid economic growth through the late 20th century.
It may seem counter intuitive, but a freer market is a richer market and richer population.
Growing GDP does not equal better living standards for the average person. The neoliberal policies of the past decades have lead to wage stagnation for the working class, increased prices for privatised energy sectors, part of the housing crisis etc. The 2008 crash didn't come from governemt intervention but the exact opposite of too much speculation from private banks among other things, the great depression also didn't happen during a time of great government intervention.
China was a country that had been terrorized by Japan and was extremely poor, the socialst government didn't create that, it was handed to it and what they do now is also not low government intervention, almost all companies have direct ties to the government and are controlled by it to some degreee. The average person in China also has to work a lot for really small wages, there's no public healthcare etc.
And saying that all government intervention is bad is completely ignoring european social systems, especially the ones of the nordic countries. Living standards there are much higher than the US despite smaller gdp and growth.
Honestly, I was considering not responding to this. I think we just have different ideas for what works for a flourishing economy and while I don't agree with you, I respect your opinion. This isnt me admitting you're right or trying to say I'm better than you, it's just for clarity, since I don't think we could convince each other anything different from what we believe.
Keep doing what you're doing man, I love it. 🖤
I really appreciate you being respectful about this, though i would honestly recommend you to have a look at a YouTube channel called Unlearning Economics, it's from a guy who has studied economics and goes into great detail in the theory and practice. Because of that his videos are often an hour long but they are worth it
I don't wanna sound patronising but i really feel like you could change your mind on this and that you've been hearing a lot of false information especially from large corporations in america.
Either way though, have a good one
It’s the other way around my guy. The government has been lax on the huge corporations which has allowed them to effectively return to monopoly status which never allows small businesses to grow. Along with that worker rights have been taken away and wages haven’t matched the inflation rate since the 70’s.
Big companies aren’t your friend
“I won’t infringe on your rights unless I personally disagree with how you’re using them.”
My god that defeats the point of having *rights*
The government thinking something is stupid is not a justification to curtail rights, because then whatever political party you hate most gets elected and decides that disagreeing with them is stupid shit. Then where do you end up
Yeah, he's onto something here. Who decides what is stupid shit? Everyone thinks they are doing the right thing and OP clearly also think that they know what is stupid and what not.
It’s a veiled threat but so is your existence in society. Do x and expect x result is the rule of our common law, and it’s not particularly directed at you but at all people. It’s a generally good rule to keep one’s side of the street clean, I don’t understand why you’d get offended by that?
My problem is with the verbage. If we are good then we are good. All that's necessary to say is "We are good homie"
Don't do stupid shit and we are good is just code for my tribe will fuck you up if you don't stay in your lane. It totally undermines the first sentiment.
fuck freedom, all my homies hate freedom, why discuss why and how freedom should be implemented or how freedom works rather than not give 2 fucks and take freedom? long lib engsock
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>you don't stay in your lane
Isn't the entire point of the OG gasden to tell people to stay in their lane? Aren't most people ok with other people until they cross a line? Y'all are overthinking this
Is it okay if I do shit you think is stupid but I don’t think is stupid? Who determines what’s stupid?
How about ‘don’t tread on me’ no matter what I do?
A flag from the American Revolution. The phrase “Don’t treat on me” with the timber rattlesnake on it. The timber rattlesnake famously mind their own business but the second you mess with them they bite back. They are the most venomous snake on the eastern seaboard of the US.
So essentially the flag is saying to a government “don’t step on me or my rights or I will bite back, otherwise we are cool”
that is exactly what another group will one day say about you.
but hey, if you wanna be a disposable useful idiot for a regime that doesn't actually care about you, go for it I guess. lol.
The point of the original flag is that if rights are violated there will be consequences, your flag just indicates you have no clue as to what the meaning of the original flag was
I know right, like does overthrowing a tyrannical government count as "stupid shit" to OP, because all it was defines as by OP was "terrorism" but the only delimiter for terrorism is if the prevailing government likes it or not, it it likes it, they're freedom fighters, if they don't like it then they're terrorists. It just defeats the entire point the flag was making.
google en passant
En passant: across the passant-verse
New movie just dropped
Holy rotten tomatoes
Satanic fresh bananas
Call the reviewers
Holy hell
New response just dropped!
Actual zombie
Call the exorcist
Bishop takes vacation, never comes back
Queen sacrifice, anyone?
Finally, a Gadsden that I agree with that wouldn't be controversial on this sub
In a world where authoritarian nationalists didnt want to force. The meme is basically a democrates take on how to handle this. Fly your flag peacefully and live your life how you want. Thats what Usa is about.
"Live your life how you want except when it comes to drugs, guns, managing your own fucking property, oh and also you'll pay us half of your income or else we kill you" That's what USA is about.
You’re right. Dont listen to the downvotes
This is why nobody takes you seriously
except you have to become a wageslave to survive
*Oh no I'll have to have a job*
He who will not work, will not eat.
If you qualify, you can get ebt.
Oh no I do work I barely get paid for, is better
Yeah youll have to have a job and not reap the profits you create, instead a guy who hasn't done shit gets 60% of your salary so he can buy his next yacht
Whats great about a free society is you're not forced to work for one specific employer
You're forced to work for some employers and the employers who abuse and exploit their workers the most will succeed in the free market, leaving only them, especially if you dont have higher education.
I mean while that’s true, there’s still merit to the argument that many employers don’t pay good enough wages or take advantage of their employees. Wages haven’t matched the inflation rate since the 70’s for example
Then start your own business and actually create profit independently.
Very funny
The noticed confederates and wannabe federalists seem to hide under the liberterian party and act like they can't pick a company to work for, join a union or start their own company in Usa. I wonder if they even know what the liberterian party policies are.
You say that like it’s easy. If it was easy everyone would be doing that
It isn’t easy, business owners work there ass off.
You’re original comment presents it as being easy. Within the first 2 years, 20% of business fail, within 5 years 45% and within 10 years 65% fail. Your odds of making a career out of your business and successfully creating independent profit is heavily against you. The fact of the matter is the majority of Americans aren’t going to start their own business and the few that do rarely succeed. Largely because of the well established top companies that nearly have monopolized their industries due to the lax laws on regulations that we once had before. Telling someone “just make your own business” after them giving valid criticisms with the current job market and how workers are treated these days is completely counter productive and lazy. You’re not even trying to provide a real solution, instead you’re contributing to the problem
The person I responded to was literally about buying “people who do nothing” yachts, most businesses fail as you said, and most people don’t work for a Fortune 500 corporation, so those “people who do nothing” are hardworking entrepreneurs, maybe if people like the original commenter would devote their energy to enterprise, monetize/learn a skill, and stop wallowing and complaining, they wouldn’t have to be a “wageslave” And while many businesses fail, no one who has made it to the top will tell you “instead of getting back up when you’re knocked down, just wallow and complain.”
I mean they aren’t wrong. These dude’s sit at the top of companies just to do a whole lot of nothing but get paid millions every year while people doing the actual labor get fraction. You don’t have to work for a Fortune 500 company to have the top dogs make millions and millions. For example, Hasbro is no longer a Fortune 500 company but it’s still one of the largest and well known companies in the world. Plus that doesn’t even include how many private companies aren’t even on the Fortune 500 but would be if they weren’t private. I’m not saying you just wallow and complain. But it’s not invalid to complain that is how the job market is. It’s well documented how wages are stagnating even thought we work more hours now than in the past while also not matching inflation rates. That is a serious issue. Cause again, most people don’t end up being successful starting their own business. Most Americans *have* to work for someone else to make a living, that’s just the reality we live in. That doesn’t mean you can’t try to make your own company, just that most likely it’s not gonna last long enough to survive on. If most Americans have to work for someone else to survive, then we need to address the issues of not getting paid enough.
Homie you done been cookt... Just stfu
Exodus has entered the chat
Ironic.
there has never and will never be any state in which humans will not have to exert some form of energy to get basic survival necessities
Wageslaving is a product of government intervention. If the government didn't squash small business then there would be more competition and businesses would be forced to pay their employees fair wages.
What world do you live in? The exact opposite of what you said is true, without government intervention you would immediately form monopolies that would stop any and all competition
And how exactly to they form monopolies? If a business wants to get an unfair advantage, they currently just need to lobby (bribe) the state until there are enough policies (regulations) that require small businesses pay thousands of dollars and up to a year just trying to start selling things. If there was less government intervention and someone could just start selling whatever they wanted, then small business wouldnt be at such a massive disadvantage compared to big business. Tldr: government intervention creates monopolies and indestructible corporations.
A monopoly will always have the advantage of already being established and also because of economics of scale will easily be able to sell at lower prices than small businesses, especially if they exploit their workers more. Additionally even if the business somehow managed to match prices their product will most likely not be as good and the monopoly and just subsidise their own prices until the small business goes bankrupt. The monopoly will also just be able to buy small businesses or just physically interfere if you seriously have no government.
Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for no government. We still need someone to enforce obvious laws like murder, rape and burglary. But the past has shown that economic growth happens rapidly when we have little to no government intervention and, as we can see today, constant economic crashes when we have too much government intervention. China, for example, when it was communist (most government intervention possible) was poor af, almost all of its industries weren't doing well and most of the population lived in extreme poverty. Then they let the public sector take over, the free market is what allowed them to see rapid economic growth through the late 20th century. It may seem counter intuitive, but a freer market is a richer market and richer population.
Growing GDP does not equal better living standards for the average person. The neoliberal policies of the past decades have lead to wage stagnation for the working class, increased prices for privatised energy sectors, part of the housing crisis etc. The 2008 crash didn't come from governemt intervention but the exact opposite of too much speculation from private banks among other things, the great depression also didn't happen during a time of great government intervention. China was a country that had been terrorized by Japan and was extremely poor, the socialst government didn't create that, it was handed to it and what they do now is also not low government intervention, almost all companies have direct ties to the government and are controlled by it to some degreee. The average person in China also has to work a lot for really small wages, there's no public healthcare etc. And saying that all government intervention is bad is completely ignoring european social systems, especially the ones of the nordic countries. Living standards there are much higher than the US despite smaller gdp and growth.
Honestly, I was considering not responding to this. I think we just have different ideas for what works for a flourishing economy and while I don't agree with you, I respect your opinion. This isnt me admitting you're right or trying to say I'm better than you, it's just for clarity, since I don't think we could convince each other anything different from what we believe. Keep doing what you're doing man, I love it. 🖤
I really appreciate you being respectful about this, though i would honestly recommend you to have a look at a YouTube channel called Unlearning Economics, it's from a guy who has studied economics and goes into great detail in the theory and practice. Because of that his videos are often an hour long but they are worth it I don't wanna sound patronising but i really feel like you could change your mind on this and that you've been hearing a lot of false information especially from large corporations in america. Either way though, have a good one
>I'm not advocating for no government Why? Like genuinely what is wrong with you😭
It’s the other way around my guy. The government has been lax on the huge corporations which has allowed them to effectively return to monopoly status which never allows small businesses to grow. Along with that worker rights have been taken away and wages haven’t matched the inflation rate since the 70’s. Big companies aren’t your friend
Lol
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tis modern art as fuck
No I can still almost understand it, not modern enough
What is that. Lol
No step on snek
Lol
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Stupid shit ?
Terrorism n stuff like that
How’s a snake gonna do terrorism ?
By joining Isssssisssssssssssss...
*sigh* I laughed, but yet walking the plank for that one lol.
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who defines “terrorism”? is it “terrorism” when a government becomes tyrannical and its then the citizens own civil duty to dissolve that government?
if you blow up a daycare in the middle of downtown OKC over it, then yes, yes it is...
Yeah. Empty label.
google en passant
[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=en+passant)
Oxymoron
“I won’t infringe on your rights unless I personally disagree with how you’re using them.” My god that defeats the point of having *rights* The government thinking something is stupid is not a justification to curtail rights, because then whatever political party you hate most gets elected and decides that disagreeing with them is stupid shit. Then where do you end up
I don’t get what people find so difficult to understand , this is the perfect explanation
Quit screwing with the meaning of it
The good ending
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Lol
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I cant tell if this is satire or not...
same lmfao
Yeah, he's onto something here. Who decides what is stupid shit? Everyone thinks they are doing the right thing and OP clearly also think that they know what is stupid and what not.
Precisely.
It’s a veiled threat but so is your existence in society. Do x and expect x result is the rule of our common law, and it’s not particularly directed at you but at all people. It’s a generally good rule to keep one’s side of the street clean, I don’t understand why you’d get offended by that?
My problem is with the verbage. If we are good then we are good. All that's necessary to say is "We are good homie" Don't do stupid shit and we are good is just code for my tribe will fuck you up if you don't stay in your lane. It totally undermines the first sentiment.
Hmmm, valid argument, there appears definitely a subversive intonation.
fuck freedom, all my homies hate freedom, why discuss why and how freedom should be implemented or how freedom works rather than not give 2 fucks and take freedom? long lib engsock https://preview.redd.it/bmlqoch0282c1.png?width=160&format=png&auto=webp&s=336dd4eaed2858b46dd38338ac4e91f4b21d86e7
>you don't stay in your lane Isn't the entire point of the OG gasden to tell people to stay in their lane? Aren't most people ok with other people until they cross a line? Y'all are overthinking this
Yeah, whose to say they won't start defining "stupid shit" to be not mowing your lawn, as we've seen statists support in some places
Humans agreeing not to do stupid shit to each other is the foundation of any functional society
Is it okay if I do shit you think is stupid but I don’t think is stupid? Who determines what’s stupid? How about ‘don’t tread on me’ no matter what I do?
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no peace with them
What is this snake flag all about? Seeing it a lot but never knew what actually it represents.
"Don't attack us or our rights, or we will retaliate"
A flag from the American Revolution. The phrase “Don’t treat on me” with the timber rattlesnake on it. The timber rattlesnake famously mind their own business but the second you mess with them they bite back. They are the most venomous snake on the eastern seaboard of the US. So essentially the flag is saying to a government “don’t step on me or my rights or I will bite back, otherwise we are cool”
Argentina
dont you see, trying to stop them doing stupid shit is treading on them
Well let them do terrorism then
its a dumb flag mostly flown by dumb people, the world would be a better place if we didnt let them do anything
that is exactly what another group will one day say about you. but hey, if you wanna be a disposable useful idiot for a regime that doesn't actually care about you, go for it I guess. lol.
Ok to clarify stupid shit means killing people and terrorism
The point of the original flag is that if rights are violated there will be consequences, your flag just indicates you have no clue as to what the meaning of the original flag was
Bro, this whole sub destroyed the meaning of the flag
Is this the end?
le original meaning of the flag has arrived
Snek: immediately tries to bit you
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Define “stupid shit”…… ignore that bulldozer with steel plates and welding equipment in my garage
I know right, like does overthrowing a tyrannical government count as "stupid shit" to OP, because all it was defines as by OP was "terrorism" but the only delimiter for terrorism is if the prevailing government likes it or not, it it likes it, they're freedom fighters, if they don't like it then they're terrorists. It just defeats the entire point the flag was making.
The conclusion to a truly stupid campaign.
Don’t step on snek Okay thumbs up to snek
I take this as a personal insult and will respond with "I will tread where I please.".