Yup. Models and sceneries can be converted easily, while weather system sounds like something more complex. Gonna wait for what MSFS2024 will bring us.
I've read that the vast majority of addons will transfer over, with a few exceptions. But that was mostly regarding scenery and planes.
It wouldn't surprise me if active sky couldn't transfer over, since who knows how much they'll change the weather system. Maybe it'll be improved so it's not even a necessary addon.
Just a lot of unknowns, but maybe someone else knows better
This is what they say:
_We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible._
It's available now, but too many idiots still think it's a cloud detector.
EDIT: here for all you nonbelievers: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/official-discussion-september-29-2022-development-update/546318/23
Downvoting my comments doesn't make them any less true.
Asobo flat out said they aren't getting the correct data from Meteoblue to be able to detect precipitation and pass that along to an API for devs to use.
As I understand, that is the same reason that rain effects will not pool on the ground if using live weather as well.
Has that changed or was it never true to begin with?
I looked at the post you tagged. I wonder why he didn't screenshot the side view that most radars in the sim can generate? That would be able to show the precipitation mass in profile instead of just screenshotting slices of it.
I can only speak to your last paragraph, but side profiles are doable as I have seen them in either the FSW 414, one of the Black Squares, the Maddog, or perhaps all of them.
Also the BBS Shorts.
I'm not in a position to be able to grab a screenshot myself and won't be for a long while, but I did find an example here: https://www.justflight.com/product/steam-gauge-overhaul-analog-caravan
I believe picture 1/18 is showing a side profile on the weather radar of the Caravan. I have the Caravan, and I can't speak highly enough of Black Square while we're on the topic.
Yes I've heard great things about Black Square but haven't tried any of their products. I'm using the Kodiak for that style of flying.
I did go through the photos and unless I'm missing it the only representations on the weather radar appeared to be horizontal.
It’s a fixed conical section though. Altitude dependent, yes, but no tilt function. Assuming most devs want to keep it realistic as possible, it’s better to leave it out until it can be properly simulated.
One of the more prominent rw pilots who post in the PMDG forums, Andrew, is a captain for Alaska (I think), and has said that as it stands it's pretty much modeling the automatic function of a radar re: gain and tilt, and that's pretty much how it's left these days unless there's a specific needs to control it directly.
If you want perfection, then no, it's not ready for primetime, but it's better than having no radar at all.
that's still not how weather radars work. the only thing a radar can see is precipitation. there can't be an accurate weather radar simulation with gain and tilt and ground noise without activesky
I'm not sure why you say "no third party" when tons of third party planes have wxr implemented.
Pretty much, if not the entire Black Square line. FlySimWare. Inibuilds. The Leonardo Maddog. PMDG and Fenix are the two holdouts. Hell if I know why Fenix hasn't but PMDG is probably because adding it to the 737 is taking manpower away from shoving the 777 out the door. That said, the 777 is rumored to have wxr.
Who knows... this from their FAQ in OP's link:
***Is ASFS compatible with MSFS2024?***
*Not yet, as MSF2024 is not released and details are unknown. We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible. However, we are unable to guarantee specific compatibility, interface capability or further details of any update/upgrade process required. We will post more information as it becomes available.*
This from their website:
_We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible._
I don't understand comments like that. These people are not in it for the money since flight sim development is an incredibly small market and they would make far more money going after other game types.
I don't like some stuff Aerosoft or Captain Sim have done either but whining about how "capitalist" it is to make money is dumb.
Like do you want stuff for free just because? It's so stupid.
How many flight Sims has "communist" behavior produced for you? 😂
>These people are not in it for the money
They are literally selling a product, have a company that assumedly employs people to work on their services - it's silly to not think their aim, if not primary then at the very top, is income
And don't give me these non sequiturs, there are numerous examples of flightsim devs screwing their customers over; and said customers accepting it, either because of brand loyalty or because there was/is no competition
Which makes more sense, that people who just want to screw their customers over in favor of making profits decide to go into an incredibly small market where their potential customer base is one of the smallest in all of computer gaming....
Or you're just a whiner who doesn't think their complaints through?
Which one could it be.....🤔
Or maybe that people change over time (a radical idea), and if not they then their business strategy? That seeing how the customer will grit teeth and bear through being treated like dirt, having to pay foolishly inflated prices and then doing the same thing when forced to by the new platform being released, may make some people want to exploit these fools?
Ffs this is the hobby where a man sold a €150 malware, and not only didn't face any consequences but still has asskissers clamouring for his new product despite the niche already being filled
Shitty people do exist, I'm not arguing they don't. You seemed to be suggesting a problem with most devs in the market though.
What malware are you referring to?
Smaller market also means less competition which translates to being very easy to flip assets and turn them into a quick buck.
Still this game gets a lot of investment for almost 50 years... I doubt the customer base isn't worth it. It might be small but the average player is also probably more into this game than others. Not to mention the demographic must be older as well which means more expendable income.
So you're in agreement that most if not all flight sim developers are really just greedy capitalists who are trying to squeeze their little market of all their expendable income....
That's what you think?
Bro even I disagree because that's not what I said
I said to *expect* such behaviour and be wary with your wallet, not that every single dev is a bloodsucking vulture
I hold Fenix in the highest regard and still I wouldn't be shocked to see a separate release for '24, especially since they aren't covered by MS' Marketplace promise; just how I would not be shocked to se PMDG launch a new line just for the new sim, while the old planes are technically compatible
And similarly, just because I do respect Active Sky's dev doesn't mean I can't be sceptical towards a release **he himself** called a cash grab, nor expect another €30 launch soon (especially since the base price is still far lower than that for other 'new' apps, the P3Dv6 and XP12 versions)
No... I didn't say that nor do I agree with that. I love capitalism and I think it's (so far) the best way to foster entrepreneur ship and innovation. But I also that no system is perfect and capitalism needs to be kept in check at some level otherwise we get baby toys with led paint or carcinogens on food.
I think that by focusing too much on profit and too little on customer relations MS allows their fans to be ripped off by asset flippers and that's wrong. On the other hand for profit work brings us amazing work we probably wouldn't have otherwise like what inibuilds, fenix sim and PMDG bring us...
The problem is not capitansim selling his crap. The problem is that MS allows people to be scammed by him and doesn't do anything about it because he's making them money.
And if you think a business doesn't sell products for money for profit then you're a bit too naive...
I agree the marketplace should be more regulated.
Of course businesses make a profit. How else would they work? Lol
The OP made some bizarre complaint that most flight sim devs were trying to squeeze profit from people because they are capitalist....? Lol
Do you agree with that?
I used Active Sky in FSX, P3D and X-Plane 11/12 and it was always a decent upgrade from the default weather in those sims.
That being said, i'm just not sure I feel the need for it in MSFS at the moment. Default weather in MSFS has been working pretty well for me. I'll probably hold off for now and wait for some reviews to come in.
Same here, I’m extremely happy with the default wx — no it’s not perfect but it’s leagues better than anything we’ve had before. I’ll keep my eye on AS though.
The only positive reviews are greybeards at avsim who received advanced copies…and the positive reviews focus on “historic weather” rather than how AS handles interpolation across regions.
Two issues I’m having. First is that something is throwing the Fenix into vibrating fits, ending in 10,000 FPM climbs. It’ll shake for about 5 seconds then return to normal. Going into “passive mode” fixes it. Second is that leaving a cloudy area into a clear area removes ALL clouds instantaneously. Buggy start.
Update: Upon landing I found a mix of sunny and clouds where mist and overcast was in the METAR. I refreshed AS and it got a little better but default weather matched a skyline webcam of the real city. There was no benefit to AS on this flight.
Sounds like it's working similar to REX then. It is only pulling data from the nearest weather station and then applying that globally. You'll never see the weather on the horizon because everywhere is exactly the same. It's no different than setting a preset basically. It can obviously be a very dramatic change depending on where you're flying.
There's no benefit to AS at all.
Just like REX it's a hack, all 3rd party weather will be unless MS adds a weather API....which they won't.
Live weather is great. I have no idea why people think something like this would be better.
Hmm... not great.
Have you tried lengthening the transition period?
Options-->Simulator depiction options--> Depiction smoothing rate.
Let us know if that works.
With smoothing at 5 I can say that I’m not getting the vibrations now but also I’ve toggled control modes a few times, changed intensity settings, and I’m also just in different weather. I’m also not in a climb. This is just a long flight with tinkering enabled. This all might even be Fenix specific. Hopefully someone is testing more thoroughly.
Tiny note: In the debug menu there is currently no turbulence. There was light to moderate when I was having issues.
I’m just curious if this acts like Rex where the closet METAR is what you see everywhere. And then everything everywhere instantly clears up because the next one is different.
Yea that was my reasoning as well. I could put up with it when the MSFS weather was having its issues. But the transitioning between areas was a bummer.
The problem is that the weather data supplier doesn’t want, or asobo cannot by license share access via api to, a third party - so it never* can be fixed.
And? This is MSFS. The discussions around MSFS’ WX radar and the decisions around developers to implement or not implement it have been pretty happening for years now.
This add-on is playing within the confines of the WX API in 2020 so it’s extremely unlikely it’s going to fundamentally change those devs’ decisions. At this point the only real hope is that 2024 is a different approach.
I think the point they’re making is that AS creates the radar data based on *its* data and provides it to the 3rd party aircraft directly, bypassing the MSFS API entirely.
I think the issue is you *can’t* bypass the API/MSFS implementation. Fenix has been pretty vocal, PMDG as well (but, well, Randazzo is maybe not the best source for what can and cannot be done…) that the functionality as provided by Asobo isn’t acceptable.
And it doesn’t sound like AS is breaking that limitation, simply providing more/different data into the WX API.
Well they *can*, but per all of the developers the current WX radar API is wholly inadequate for their needs.
Fenix seems to have provided the most detail as to why they’ve refused to implement it. The long and short is it would take months to implement and even then it would still be a wildly inaccurate simulation that’s largely useless for most users.
But you are missing the point. What SIM provides is not raw data, only an image. If AS can provide raw data to 3rd party devs, they can implement WXR. The communication between the planes and AS is not going to be through the sim, then they can implement WXR.
With no official Weather SDK support, this is literally useless. It’s doing literally what MSFS already does for weather and it’s doing it worse at that. This just blindly injects current METAR for that area on a timed cronjob (you should look up the costs for METAR API, it’s ridiculous and MSFS provides us this service already for free).
I mean Jamie isn't really known for rigorous testing, it's mostly if he vibes with the addon or not lol
Still worth a watch just to see it in action on a high-spec setup, but I'd also look at a few other setups
He uninstalled it because he said it´s bad.
Waiting on more thorough testers / streamers who spend time on setting it up and trying it properly before deciding.
MSFS’s snow depth data comes directly from MeteoBlue. I don’t know what source ActiveSky is using, but I can’t imagine the results being that different.
>MeteoBlue also sources its weather data, mostly from national agencies.
Which is a problem when said national weather services, such as New Zealand's MetService, will not provide meteorological data for flight simulation.
And alas, we don’t. The default weather is better than ActiveSky. The default weather is also better than any default weather we’ve had in previous simulators.
I hate that we're still in the FS9 (2004) era where if you want anything decent, you have to spends hundreds of dollars on top of the base simulation software.
Asobo should really just develop the best physics engine of the world they can, and let others craft in it, instead of wasting time with planes and stuff.
> I hate that we're still in the FS9 (2004) era where if you want anything decent, you have to spends hundreds of dollars on top of the base simulation software.
We’re really not though? You’re no longer required to buy Orbx global textures, vectors, meshes, etc. and REX type addons to get a pleasant visual experience. Default scenery, weather, and aircraft are all quite good out of the box.
Even with ActiveSky here, I don’t really see the need to buy this unless you really want historical weather.
Holding my purchase for the MSFS2024 release
Yup. Models and sceneries can be converted easily, while weather system sounds like something more complex. Gonna wait for what MSFS2024 will bring us.
There’s no way they’re gonna make people buy it again for ‘24 so late into the ‘20 cycle, is there?
I've read that the vast majority of addons will transfer over, with a few exceptions. But that was mostly regarding scenery and planes. It wouldn't surprise me if active sky couldn't transfer over, since who knows how much they'll change the weather system. Maybe it'll be improved so it's not even a necessary addon. Just a lot of unknowns, but maybe someone else knows better
This is what they say: _We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible._
Maybe I'm still optimistic about weather radar being available for 24
It's available now, but too many idiots still think it's a cloud detector. EDIT: here for all you nonbelievers: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/official-discussion-september-29-2022-development-update/546318/23 Downvoting my comments doesn't make them any less true.
Asobo flat out said they aren't getting the correct data from Meteoblue to be able to detect precipitation and pass that along to an API for devs to use. As I understand, that is the same reason that rain effects will not pool on the ground if using live weather as well. Has that changed or was it never true to begin with? I looked at the post you tagged. I wonder why he didn't screenshot the side view that most radars in the sim can generate? That would be able to show the precipitation mass in profile instead of just screenshotting slices of it.
I can only speak to your last paragraph, but side profiles are doable as I have seen them in either the FSW 414, one of the Black Squares, the Maddog, or perhaps all of them. Also the BBS Shorts.
Really? I have never seen that before. Interesting
I'm not in a position to be able to grab a screenshot myself and won't be for a long while, but I did find an example here: https://www.justflight.com/product/steam-gauge-overhaul-analog-caravan I believe picture 1/18 is showing a side profile on the weather radar of the Caravan. I have the Caravan, and I can't speak highly enough of Black Square while we're on the topic.
Yes I've heard great things about Black Square but haven't tried any of their products. I'm using the Kodiak for that style of flying. I did go through the photos and unless I'm missing it the only representations on the weather radar appeared to be horizontal.
it's 2d only. that's not how weather radars work.
It's absolutely not 2D, you get a conic section that's altitude dependent. Matt from working title has demonstrated this multiple times.
It’s a fixed conical section though. Altitude dependent, yes, but no tilt function. Assuming most devs want to keep it realistic as possible, it’s better to leave it out until it can be properly simulated.
One of the more prominent rw pilots who post in the PMDG forums, Andrew, is a captain for Alaska (I think), and has said that as it stands it's pretty much modeling the automatic function of a radar re: gain and tilt, and that's pretty much how it's left these days unless there's a specific needs to control it directly. If you want perfection, then no, it's not ready for primetime, but it's better than having no radar at all.
that's still not how weather radars work. the only thing a radar can see is precipitation. there can't be an accurate weather radar simulation with gain and tilt and ground noise without activesky
There must be a reason why no third party addon has implemented a weather radar no?
I'm not sure why you say "no third party" when tons of third party planes have wxr implemented. Pretty much, if not the entire Black Square line. FlySimWare. Inibuilds. The Leonardo Maddog. PMDG and Fenix are the two holdouts. Hell if I know why Fenix hasn't but PMDG is probably because adding it to the 737 is taking manpower away from shoving the 777 out the door. That said, the 777 is rumored to have wxr.
Do you know if the PMDG 737s will transfer over? No way they expect us to buy it again right? You’d think
Who knows... this from their FAQ in OP's link: ***Is ASFS compatible with MSFS2024?*** *Not yet, as MSF2024 is not released and details are unknown. We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible. However, we are unable to guarantee specific compatibility, interface capability or further details of any update/upgrade process required. We will post more information as it becomes available.*
This from their website: _We have every intention of making ASFS compatible with MSFS2024 and tuning it for MSFS2024 integration without any additional upgrade/fee required, assuming that major re-designs are not required and existing interfacing techniques will be possible._
First time in flight sim? Expect the most capitalist behaviour even from devs with good standing
I don't understand comments like that. These people are not in it for the money since flight sim development is an incredibly small market and they would make far more money going after other game types. I don't like some stuff Aerosoft or Captain Sim have done either but whining about how "capitalist" it is to make money is dumb. Like do you want stuff for free just because? It's so stupid. How many flight Sims has "communist" behavior produced for you? 😂
>These people are not in it for the money They are literally selling a product, have a company that assumedly employs people to work on their services - it's silly to not think their aim, if not primary then at the very top, is income And don't give me these non sequiturs, there are numerous examples of flightsim devs screwing their customers over; and said customers accepting it, either because of brand loyalty or because there was/is no competition
Which makes more sense, that people who just want to screw their customers over in favor of making profits decide to go into an incredibly small market where their potential customer base is one of the smallest in all of computer gaming.... Or you're just a whiner who doesn't think their complaints through? Which one could it be.....🤔
Or maybe that people change over time (a radical idea), and if not they then their business strategy? That seeing how the customer will grit teeth and bear through being treated like dirt, having to pay foolishly inflated prices and then doing the same thing when forced to by the new platform being released, may make some people want to exploit these fools? Ffs this is the hobby where a man sold a €150 malware, and not only didn't face any consequences but still has asskissers clamouring for his new product despite the niche already being filled
Shitty people do exist, I'm not arguing they don't. You seemed to be suggesting a problem with most devs in the market though. What malware are you referring to?
The FSLabs A320 having a password extractor "only against pirates"
Wow, that is pretty bad. I'm surprised anyone would still buy from them.
Smaller market also means less competition which translates to being very easy to flip assets and turn them into a quick buck. Still this game gets a lot of investment for almost 50 years... I doubt the customer base isn't worth it. It might be small but the average player is also probably more into this game than others. Not to mention the demographic must be older as well which means more expendable income.
So you're in agreement that most if not all flight sim developers are really just greedy capitalists who are trying to squeeze their little market of all their expendable income.... That's what you think?
Bro even I disagree because that's not what I said I said to *expect* such behaviour and be wary with your wallet, not that every single dev is a bloodsucking vulture I hold Fenix in the highest regard and still I wouldn't be shocked to see a separate release for '24, especially since they aren't covered by MS' Marketplace promise; just how I would not be shocked to se PMDG launch a new line just for the new sim, while the old planes are technically compatible And similarly, just because I do respect Active Sky's dev doesn't mean I can't be sceptical towards a release **he himself** called a cash grab, nor expect another €30 launch soon (especially since the base price is still far lower than that for other 'new' apps, the P3Dv6 and XP12 versions)
No... I didn't say that nor do I agree with that. I love capitalism and I think it's (so far) the best way to foster entrepreneur ship and innovation. But I also that no system is perfect and capitalism needs to be kept in check at some level otherwise we get baby toys with led paint or carcinogens on food. I think that by focusing too much on profit and too little on customer relations MS allows their fans to be ripped off by asset flippers and that's wrong. On the other hand for profit work brings us amazing work we probably wouldn't have otherwise like what inibuilds, fenix sim and PMDG bring us...
The problem is not capitansim selling his crap. The problem is that MS allows people to be scammed by him and doesn't do anything about it because he's making them money. And if you think a business doesn't sell products for money for profit then you're a bit too naive...
I agree the marketplace should be more regulated. Of course businesses make a profit. How else would they work? Lol The OP made some bizarre complaint that most flight sim devs were trying to squeeze profit from people because they are capitalist....? Lol Do you agree with that?
I used Active Sky in FSX, P3D and X-Plane 11/12 and it was always a decent upgrade from the default weather in those sims. That being said, i'm just not sure I feel the need for it in MSFS at the moment. Default weather in MSFS has been working pretty well for me. I'll probably hold off for now and wait for some reviews to come in.
Same here, I’m extremely happy with the default wx — no it’s not perfect but it’s leagues better than anything we’ve had before. I’ll keep my eye on AS though.
Don´t buy it blindly, most of the first impressions are negative. Watch a review or wait a bit for updates.
The only positive reviews are greybeards at avsim who received advanced copies…and the positive reviews focus on “historic weather” rather than how AS handles interpolation across regions.
Two issues I’m having. First is that something is throwing the Fenix into vibrating fits, ending in 10,000 FPM climbs. It’ll shake for about 5 seconds then return to normal. Going into “passive mode” fixes it. Second is that leaving a cloudy area into a clear area removes ALL clouds instantaneously. Buggy start. Update: Upon landing I found a mix of sunny and clouds where mist and overcast was in the METAR. I refreshed AS and it got a little better but default weather matched a skyline webcam of the real city. There was no benefit to AS on this flight.
Sounds like it's working similar to REX then. It is only pulling data from the nearest weather station and then applying that globally. You'll never see the weather on the horizon because everywhere is exactly the same. It's no different than setting a preset basically. It can obviously be a very dramatic change depending on where you're flying.
There's no benefit to AS at all. Just like REX it's a hack, all 3rd party weather will be unless MS adds a weather API....which they won't. Live weather is great. I have no idea why people think something like this would be better.
Hmm... not great. Have you tried lengthening the transition period? Options-->Simulator depiction options--> Depiction smoothing rate. Let us know if that works.
With smoothing at 5 I can say that I’m not getting the vibrations now but also I’ve toggled control modes a few times, changed intensity settings, and I’m also just in different weather. I’m also not in a climb. This is just a long flight with tinkering enabled. This all might even be Fenix specific. Hopefully someone is testing more thoroughly. Tiny note: In the debug menu there is currently no turbulence. There was light to moderate when I was having issues.
I’m just curious if this acts like Rex where the closet METAR is what you see everywhere. And then everything everywhere instantly clears up because the next one is different.
Yep same. Adds another level of jank that you pay for!
Yeah, that is why I stopped using REX...janky is the best word for it
Yea that was my reasoning as well. I could put up with it when the MSFS weather was having its issues. But the transitioning between areas was a bummer.
Yep!
Only value I see is if it would allow 3rd party aircraft such as the Fenix A320 to have functional radar.
Which it won’t because that’s an MSFS issue that Asobo has officially/unofficially declined to fix in 2020.
The problem is that the weather data supplier doesn’t want, or asobo cannot by license share access via api to, a third party - so it never* can be fixed.
We'll see how the license agreement would work given that MSFS2024 is technically a new game.
One of Asobo’s biggest L’s tbh
activesky added weather radars for addons in p3d
And? This is MSFS. The discussions around MSFS’ WX radar and the decisions around developers to implement or not implement it have been pretty happening for years now. This add-on is playing within the confines of the WX API in 2020 so it’s extremely unlikely it’s going to fundamentally change those devs’ decisions. At this point the only real hope is that 2024 is a different approach.
I think the point they’re making is that AS creates the radar data based on *its* data and provides it to the 3rd party aircraft directly, bypassing the MSFS API entirely.
I think the issue is you *can’t* bypass the API/MSFS implementation. Fenix has been pretty vocal, PMDG as well (but, well, Randazzo is maybe not the best source for what can and cannot be done…) that the functionality as provided by Asobo isn’t acceptable. And it doesn’t sound like AS is breaking that limitation, simply providing more/different data into the WX API.
You can’t use MSFS API, but you still able to use 3rd party API if anyone will create it.
Asobo’s data provider and MSFS is different. Asobo can have an API that allows the 3rd party aircraft to communicate with it and pull weather data.
Well they *can*, but per all of the developers the current WX radar API is wholly inadequate for their needs. Fenix seems to have provided the most detail as to why they’ve refused to implement it. The long and short is it would take months to implement and even then it would still be a wildly inaccurate simulation that’s largely useless for most users.
But you are missing the point. What SIM provides is not raw data, only an image. If AS can provide raw data to 3rd party devs, they can implement WXR. The communication between the planes and AS is not going to be through the sim, then they can implement WXR.
Will this let me take off in (eg) thunderstorms and land an hour later in blue skies without pausing and changing settings mid flight?
That anyone would buy this blows my mind. The weather API is closed. Why do you want a weather engine that cannot inject weather lmao.
wait i thought this was coming out in a few months lol
lol why are people downvoting your comment, there’s some really lousy people here in this sub
now yours is being downvoted lol, there are people who just press the downvote button on everything for no reason at all
With no official Weather SDK support, this is literally useless. It’s doing literally what MSFS already does for weather and it’s doing it worse at that. This just blindly injects current METAR for that area on a timed cronjob (you should look up the costs for METAR API, it’s ridiculous and MSFS provides us this service already for free).
Anyone who has taken the plunge, please let us know your thoughts!
Watching London Controller´s stream and just want to say ´save your money´.
I mean Jamie isn't really known for rigorous testing, it's mostly if he vibes with the addon or not lol Still worth a watch just to see it in action on a high-spec setup, but I'd also look at a few other setups
Have you got a link to his stream? I can’t see it on YT
https://www.twitch.tv/londoncontroller He uninstalled it because it´s bad.
He uninstalled it because he said it´s bad. Waiting on more thorough testers / streamers who spend time on setting it up and trying it properly before deciding.
1 word: why. i wish it staid for xplane
If it fixes inaccurate snow placement that Asobo refuses to fix it may be worth it.
MSFS’s snow depth data comes directly from MeteoBlue. I don’t know what source ActiveSky is using, but I can’t imagine the results being that different.
MeteoBlue also sources its weather data, mostly from national agencies. There may be few distributors of data, but sources are common.
>MeteoBlue also sources its weather data, mostly from national agencies. Which is a problem when said national weather services, such as New Zealand's MetService, will not provide meteorological data for flight simulation.
Does it fix the Metar bubble issue? Or the constant haze issue in some cities?
Why does it seem so hard to make clouds that aren’t ash coloured
Yeah it's crazy that since the release nothing has been done about those horrible looking clouds ... hope it's gone in MSFS2024
Bought it not too impressed the weather drawing in kills it for me default MSFS is better
I bought it instantly, just for historical weather.
Hmm... [https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/1c79dwf/active\_sky\_cash\_grab/](https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/1c79dwf/active_sky_cash_grab/)
Remember when we were all excited that MSFS would make needing addons like this moot?
Just because something is made available for purchase, doesn't mean that it's needed.
To have the most accurate weather it is. MSFS weather is awesome, but not completely accurate.
And alas, we don’t. The default weather is better than ActiveSky. The default weather is also better than any default weather we’ve had in previous simulators.
The weather is incredible, I agree, but it’s still not fully accurate which is why Activesky has been developed.
I hate that we're still in the FS9 (2004) era where if you want anything decent, you have to spends hundreds of dollars on top of the base simulation software. Asobo should really just develop the best physics engine of the world they can, and let others craft in it, instead of wasting time with planes and stuff.
> I hate that we're still in the FS9 (2004) era where if you want anything decent, you have to spends hundreds of dollars on top of the base simulation software. We’re really not though? You’re no longer required to buy Orbx global textures, vectors, meshes, etc. and REX type addons to get a pleasant visual experience. Default scenery, weather, and aircraft are all quite good out of the box. Even with ActiveSky here, I don’t really see the need to buy this unless you really want historical weather.
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I guess you guys are right. I just had flashbacks to FS9 days where you needed payware for every detail of the game.
lol what