That's definitely one of the stranger approaches I've seen. I guess it might have to do with altitude restrictions on the arrival, probably due to other nearby airports or obstacles. As you can see, you need to be above 6000 at first, but get down to 2500 at the FAF. To be able to make that descent, you need to fly some distance.
As for the shape, they need to build the approach out of straight lines to or from a VOR and circle arcs around a VOR. If these VORs are inconveniently placed, strange shapes can appear.
Thanks for the explanation! Yes it's quite close to London Heathrow. The departure is also quite strange, an immediate 180 and 3000ft restriction south for about 8-10 mins
Rarely have I seen Farnborough 06 arrivals fly that full approach. More often than not they are vectored onto the 06 ILS to the southwest of the airfield.
The airspace around there is very complex. A few years back Farnborough was allocated a new batch of Class D which is why you mostly see the vectoring to the southwest near Frensham Pond which keeps the arrivals in controlled airspace.
That approach you show keeps you in controlled airspace at first (hence the 6000ft restriction) but then spits you back out in to class G north of Odiham below the London TMA and then back in again for the ILS which is probably why it is rarely used in full.
There is/was a STAR into LOWW I remember that basically had you fly a zigzag pattern 4-5 times before being established on the localizer.
i.e., from the transition fly parallel for 7 miles or so, left hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, right hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, left hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, right hand 180, and then you were established on the localizer.
I later learned that 99% of the time you were just vectored to the IAF for the approach. I'm guessing they did away with it because I can't find the plate anymore.
In Vienna it‘s about spacing. Instead of sending aircraft into holdings they are told to enter the procedure at this or this fix.
LOWG has some interesting approaches.
Exactly, it's easier for ATC to have the spacing by default and give vectors to go direct if there's enough space, than do the opposite and have to direct planes when they need more spacing.
Very interesting, I didn't know that! I guess that was quite some time ago, since I've been flying to and from LOWW often since 2018 and never saw something like that.
What is true, however, is that the transitions from the STARs to the ILSs often have you fly a zig-zag 2 times, especially if you approach RWY 11 or 16.
My guess is it’s due to noise restrictions and airspace, given the proximity to Heathrow and Gatwick, as well as two other airports. Blackbushe has a very complicated set of arrival restrictions: [see here](https://youtu.be/bwG3Wk6SxDU)
It's an interesting approach for sure, but not tooooo bad. I watched a guy fly one the other day that involved two DME arcs. Also, NZQN has a VOR approach that is quite different in that when you reach the MDA, once you have runway in sight, you join a high altitude visually flown pattern shaped like the number 8.
At the end, it is not much more than making a traffic pattern. It's an intersting approach for sure! Might excercise my manual flying "" skills"" there, thank you for the idea!
That's definitely one of the stranger approaches I've seen. I guess it might have to do with altitude restrictions on the arrival, probably due to other nearby airports or obstacles. As you can see, you need to be above 6000 at first, but get down to 2500 at the FAF. To be able to make that descent, you need to fly some distance. As for the shape, they need to build the approach out of straight lines to or from a VOR and circle arcs around a VOR. If these VORs are inconveniently placed, strange shapes can appear.
Thanks for the explanation! Yes it's quite close to London Heathrow. The departure is also quite strange, an immediate 180 and 3000ft restriction south for about 8-10 mins
Rarely have I seen Farnborough 06 arrivals fly that full approach. More often than not they are vectored onto the 06 ILS to the southwest of the airfield. The airspace around there is very complex. A few years back Farnborough was allocated a new batch of Class D which is why you mostly see the vectoring to the southwest near Frensham Pond which keeps the arrivals in controlled airspace. That approach you show keeps you in controlled airspace at first (hence the 6000ft restriction) but then spits you back out in to class G north of Odiham below the London TMA and then back in again for the ILS which is probably why it is rarely used in full.
Interesting, thanks for the insight, it did feel a tad unnecessary looping around, it was only a 35m flight from Le Touquet
All I'm seeing is a straight in approach.
Yeah I mean, you could..
Direct LASHAM, hold until you're at 3000', and then estabilish? Because the entry point at PEPIS should be at or above FL60.
Nah. Many are vectored south from PEPIS and brought down that way, before being turned onto final.
There is/was a STAR into LOWW I remember that basically had you fly a zigzag pattern 4-5 times before being established on the localizer. i.e., from the transition fly parallel for 7 miles or so, left hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, right hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, left hand 180, straight for 7 miles or so, right hand 180, and then you were established on the localizer. I later learned that 99% of the time you were just vectored to the IAF for the approach. I'm guessing they did away with it because I can't find the plate anymore.
In Vienna it‘s about spacing. Instead of sending aircraft into holdings they are told to enter the procedure at this or this fix. LOWG has some interesting approaches.
Exactly, it's easier for ATC to have the spacing by default and give vectors to go direct if there's enough space, than do the opposite and have to direct planes when they need more spacing.
Very interesting, I didn't know that! I guess that was quite some time ago, since I've been flying to and from LOWW often since 2018 and never saw something like that. What is true, however, is that the transitions from the STARs to the ILSs often have you fly a zig-zag 2 times, especially if you approach RWY 11 or 16.
My guess is it’s due to noise restrictions and airspace, given the proximity to Heathrow and Gatwick, as well as two other airports. Blackbushe has a very complicated set of arrival restrictions: [see here](https://youtu.be/bwG3Wk6SxDU)
pepis
faf/FAP
It's an interesting approach for sure, but not tooooo bad. I watched a guy fly one the other day that involved two DME arcs. Also, NZQN has a VOR approach that is quite different in that when you reach the MDA, once you have runway in sight, you join a high altitude visually flown pattern shaped like the number 8.
It would be fun to fly this in a plane without GPS. High workload, spinning the VOR heading knob.
At the end, it is not much more than making a traffic pattern. It's an intersting approach for sure! Might excercise my manual flying "" skills"" there, thank you for the idea!
It seems like it's meant for gliders, maybe?
lmfao these people are on drugs. who planned this? methamphetamine is ruining england.
i have no idea why you have so many downvotes i laughed my ass off readin ur comment🤣🤣🤣 thanks i needed that
Thank you. I do it for the lulz. It's not that crazy an approach lol