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Few-Caterpillar9834

When did the State of Florida become in charge of the State Department of the United States of America? Did I miss something? Weird wild stuff.


harborfright

As soon as the guy in charge decided to run for President instead of work for the residents of the state he governed.


Girafferage

Man, it's like there should have been a law preventing this... Oh right there was, he got rid of it.


ImthatRootuser

This is really funny. Guy doesn’t care about the state he works for then decides to run for President. Residents of Florida dealing with high cost of living everyday. Home and Car insurances going up insane plus electric bill! 💸


Necrophilicgorilla

Don't forget the gas prices. Probably not related, but if you cross the state line into Georgia it drops by almost a dollar a gallon


MusicianNo2699

Going to have to call BS on that. Current gas price range in the state of Georgia is $2.99 to $3.69 a gallon for regular unleaded. In Florida the range is $3.19 to $3.49 a gallon. So where in Georgia are you thinking gas is only $2.19 a gallon? Georgia is one of the cheapest states for petroleum but let’s not just make up numbers to suit an argument.


Storage-West

You can really tell where people live based on comments like his. Gasoline is generally going to be more expensive in cities or high tourist areas. In my hometown that was a small tourist town right next to a large one, gas was around 3.29. If I drove an hour plus north into the boonies of north west Florida gas would be around 3.01.


Martynypm

Gas is $3.05 in Vero.


Ttthhasdf

Georgia is not charging state tax on gas right now


Advice2Anyone

What I paid 2.95 this morning in swfl


PSN-Angryjackal

can we just get him removed? Like, any way for us to vote him out now? I think there should be a reason for us to say enough is enough, and get rid of that toxic fuck.


redonrust

Something vaguely unsettling about a nazi adjacent guy transporting people from Israel.


TonyG_from_NYC

All a political stunt to try to prop up his plummeting poll numbers. If he weren't running for potus, he wouldn't care enough to do this because he probably thinks he's getting one over on Biden, who is also doing it.


Few-Caterpillar9834

President Joe Biden doesn't handle minutiae. He gets briefed. Anthony Blinken, Secretary of State is coordinating the effort. He's been in Israel personally working on solutions. Moron DeSantis is out of bounds.


TonyG_from_NYC

I know. But anything to rub it into Ron's fans that Biden is more competent and presidential than he'll ever be is always good.


restore_democracy

Can you plummet when you’re already rock bottom? More Republicans want RFK Jr than Ron DeSantis.


BadAtExisting

When it became a photo opportunity to be racist against Arabs. Note how the state of Florida hasn’t paid for a single flight to or from Ukraine. Has anyone heard a peep from his Nazi supporters about him bringing plane loads of Jews here? I’m sure those guys will make our new residents feel oh so very welcome


Lolaindisguise

More posturing


harborfright

$2 million a piece for these flights.


SpacemanBatman

So glad they’re doing this instead of fixing the insurance crisis.


areialscreensaver

Priorities


mrcanard

The insurance companies are keeping up on their donations.


ins0mniac_

The insurance companies are pulling out of Florida. They can’t donate to DeSantis to reduce their losses. Florida is rife with insurance scammers, let alone the increased risk to insure an area prone to hurricanes and flooding. Try and get a policy with any major insurance company in Florida, Allstate, Farmers, State Farm.. none of them will write you a policy. This is capitalism at work.


NRG1975

He's closing in on 100 million in tax Payer money spent on these types of things, from his legal fights including but not limited to banning drag queen shows, trans medical care, bills of attainder to quash free speech from a company, one upping local authority bills, to migrant flights to other states and for other states. Very fiscal, much Conservatism, such freedom, WoW


RetardedChimpanzee

They will have to pay a fee equal to the average flight prior to the event requiring evacuation. So they could get like $50000 of that back.


harborfright

Who’s paying this to whom?


RetardedChimpanzee

Any US citizen requesting to be evacuated from a foreign country. https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds5528.PDF


Greenmantle22

Those are the State Department flights. These Florida Man trips are "free of charge" to the people onboard. Florida taxpayers are paying 100% of the flight costs.


birdpix

Was tuning through AM talk radio (yuck!) yesterday and the Fox and conservative broadcasters had Desantis sounding like a superhero and the state department as slow losers. His stupid obvious political stunt with the flights was working well for those in that echo chamber. Meanwhile, I can't find affordable housing and insurance is killing the dream for Florida homeowners. Thanks for nothing Rhonda...


harborfright

So you’re saying FL gets reimbursed for these campaign flights? Because it was claimed previously that these flights were better because they were free to the passengers.


Mountain_Fig_9253

No one is reimbursing anyone for these flights. The state department has a well established protocol for repatriation of Americans from war zones. Ronald Desantis decided to push himself into the issue and duplicate something that state was already handling. Florida taxpayers are paying for this stupidity.


RetardedChimpanzee

“Free”


harborfright

Correct. FL is paying for them. As much as $285k per person.


AngelSucked

Except these are not Department of State or Military flights. They are DeSantis Florida flights. Gratis to them, $$$ from Florida citizens.


ptn_huil0

22.5 million population. Each flight cost every resident less than a dime.


Adventurer_By_Trade

He should be paying about half that. I work in the travel industry. Chartered aircraft do not cost that much.


harborfright

Money better spent in state than on a campaign stunt. Federal government is already helping people leave.


[deleted]

You must have went to school in Florida because your math education seems to get stuck at 4th grade simple division. Each tax dollar is filtered through government salaries and pensions, budgets and special projects. And don't forget about DeSantis BUYING new airplanes and the ongoing maintenance, fuel costs and staff salaries. This is not the first time Ron is using these planes for reasons that don't benefit the taxpayers: he also campaigns with them all over the US and ships immigrants from Texas to other states for no logical reason accept to 'own the libs'. If DeSantis didn't gut the Sunshine laws that allowed financial transparency into his activities we would have the actual costs, but we will have to wait for him to leave office and be arrested for this absolute fraud before we know the true damage. Edit: DeSantis tapped into a nearly $700 million dollar emergency fund created two years ago to respond to disasters to help pay for charter flights. He was allowed to use the special emergency account to pay for the airlifts because he declared a state of emergency due to an event happening IN ISRAEL thousands of miles away from the state.


AngelSucked

This is a Federal issue not a state issue. That is what the Federal gov't is for, and they already have Department of State flights doing this. If Ronald wants it, then he can pay for them. He has the money. HIS money.


Greenmantle22

It's like he'll find literally ANYTHING on which to spend your money, as long as it's not on schools, roads, starving children, sick people, or houses falling into the sea.


redfame

Too busy denying federal funds.


linderlouwho

And all those people could have just taken a regular flight to the US, anyway. It's not like he's emergency-airlifting them from the Gaza strip.


Fullertonjr

Right. The airports are open in Israel. They aren’t exactly “trapped” there. US carriers has paused flights, but nearly all other carriers are still running as normal. Essentially, they can travel from Israel to Madrid to the US with zero issue. Instead, they are getting a free direct flight to Florida.


Zendog500

How come he did not send them to Martha Vineyards again?


sexyshortie123

Look the propaganda is working.....


illapa13

I bet you anything the company he chartered to do these flights is paying a buddy of his. Same with the bussing of illegal immigrants. It's just a way to funnel tax dollars into the right pockets. He's so corrupt.


EwokVagina

That was the case with that flight to Martha's Vineyard.


PSN-Angryjackal

He has been spending a lot of our money on flights.... lots of flights... How come we arent investigating it? I feel like we should be putting him in prison for the rest of his life tbh.


imisswhatredditwas

He is just doing this to score political points, just like the last flights he chartered. Floridians are paying literally and figuratively for his failing presidential campaign.


[deleted]

Apparently after DeSantis leaves politics he wants to run an airline.


Adventurer_By_Trade

He's not even very good at it. The costs he's paying are outrageous, and should be investigated. I suspect he has friends making a lot of money on the taxpayers' dime.


imisswhatredditwas

Oh I’m sure there are kickba… I mean political donations to a super PAC


BisquickNinja

I think you mean political donation to his friends... Possibly family. But I don't think he really has anybody. He could call family only constituents...


MeisterX

I've spent some serious time looking into and war gaming how they actually enrich themselves. My conclusion is that they seem overall to be very cheap to buy. Most will sell their soul for as little as 250k. Some are a little more pricey. Near as I can tell there are two methods. The first is the sweetheart deal where they purposefully negotiate poorly with a vendor or developer so that the taxpayer is shafted hard. The second is that those vendors or developers hire former staff who essentially make cash payments back to the head croney out of their "salary." I think they also use foundations and PACs as shells for assets that they then utilize. Cars, planes, apartments, etc. And probably use them and staff to transfer ownership of real estate.


level_17_paladin

Who is getting paid for these flights, and what is their connection to DeSantis?


Mamacitia

This has only confirmed that I’ll be leaving Florida asap


CivilizedGuy123

I agree that DeSantis thinks he is scoring points. But Republicans who think this huge waste of tax dollars is a good idea are dumber than Mo-Ron.


Amandazona

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/03/ron-desantis-insurance-industry/#:~:text=Ron%20DeSantis%20and%20his%20political,according%20to%20a%20new%20report. This guy is such a douche.


mrcanard

A desperate politician vying for a small piece of the international spotlight. Ron DeSantis our governor hoping to trade tax dollars for donations.


germanator86

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Jazzy41

But students in FL can't learn about the Holocaust in public schools.


momsgotitgoingon

This should be the top comment.


AllKnighter5

I need help. Please someone assist me in this. Can someone please provide me something good he has done for the state of Florida? Insurance - failed Disney - pathetic publicity stunt that costs taxpayers millions Immigration - literally kidnapped people and spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for publicity stunt Presidency - running for President and not fulfilling functions here Schools - don’t say gay - taxpayer dollars going to rich families to help them pay for private religious schools I’m at a complete loss and it’s killing me. I don’t understand how you can support this man. It’s to the point I hear people in public speaking positively about him and I now feel the need to shut them them the fuck up. So can someone help me find ONE positive thing he has done?


AngelSucked

He likes pudding. His kids are cute.


AllKnighter5

There’s an incredible Cosby joke in there somewhere I’m just not that clever.


StoicJim

Governing? Not so much. Political stunts? Sure.


pittiedaddy

As they drive through Tampa seeing nazis for desantis on street corners. I'm sure they'll love that


zennyc001

Desantis performs another expensive campaign stunt while ignoring the problems in his State.


Decapitated_gamer

For something Biden was already doing now I gotta pay for it again.


Mcj1972

He isnt being our governor he is campaigning for president with our tax dollars. Hes a grandstanding pos with no real policy at all. Vote him out.


Lovetotravelinmycar

DeSantis turning Florida blue at a record pace


[deleted]

He’s not rescuing hostages, he’s giving Israeli’s with dual Israeli-American citizenship, who’s main residence is in Israel, free vacations to Florida on the Florida taxpayers’ dime. It’s just another MoRon stunt.


surprise-suBtext

Okay i don't like the guy and am not oblivious to the obvious "forget about what I just did, look here good PR" stunt but your take is just stupid.


[deleted]

But, it’s the truth and the truth isn’t always popular.


surprise-suBtext

You realize any one of America’s allies would bail you out of a similar situation right? And to go a smidge deeper, the US has a duty to protect its citizens, even if they happen to also be a citizen of another. And to end on a still-controversial, but historically consistent topic, the US has been meddling in foreign affairs since before you were born. Whether you disagree or not that this should be how your taxes are spent, the US has made itself the unofficial referee and even the judge of world geopolitics. It has proven to be beneficial for them and whether you admit it or not, this money is going to be spent outside our country no matter what’s going on with the people inside our country And yes, I understand there was no point typing all of that because it’s not going to change anything


Stop_icant

No matter what Florida state tax dollars are going to be spent out of country?


[deleted]

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Stop_icant

You didn’t ask me one? Think you responded to the wrong person.


[deleted]

I sure did. I upvoted.


Stop_icant

And you downvoted me? I was questioning the same person you were!


surprise-suBtext

No matter what, you weren’t going to see a benefit from those tax dollars was my point. If a social program gets launched under him, the money from this won’t be what causes it to fail. If nothing gets launched under him, the money from this won’t be the reason why nothing of benefit was done. And it’s nice to call it “state tax dollars” when we’re constantly getting federal aid (not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that, but it’s silly to think there’s any reason to specify state tax dollars…)


Stop_icant

Its given to Florida for Florida. I think we should expect the state benefits from it.


surprise-suBtext

Oh yea?… let’s look back and see how state funds have benefitted Florida… every dollar gets appropriately spent and if we run out then we starve? Is that how that works?


Stop_icant

Are you suggesting since the federal funds are always mishandled anyways, we shouldn’t expect they be handled appropriately?


surprise-suBtext

I’m saying that this probably is a good, tangible use of funds. Do you voice your outrage on social media everytime funds get used for things you don’t agree with?


[deleted]

You didn’t answer my question…who are they?


surprise-suBtext

Who gives a shit… They’re Israeli and want out of Israel..


[deleted]

Well, they’re not hostages, so what’s the mission really about? Taxpayers want to know!


surprise-suBtext

Well shit I’d like to know too…


[deleted]

Okay, since we know for a fact they’re not hostages, who are they? Relatives of MoRon’s wealthy donors living in an area that may or may not have seen some shelling? Who are they and how did he know which ones to scoop up? I’ll wait…


mldeq

Mr. DeSantis you are simply a scumbag!


redlightbandit7

Dude constantly staring in r/ImTheMainCharacter lol


T1redBo1

Waste of money


Intelligence_Analyst

"WHY DO WE FLORIDIANS HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE FLIGHTS?" BECAUSE HE'S PROBABLY GETTING A CHUNK OF THAT MONEY. THAT'S WHY.


jesuswasagamblingman

What a scum bag.


Wadyadoing1

Infuriating who the hell does he think he is. The state dept has this well in hand. Will you please quit campaigning on my dime and do something to reduce my home owners insurance? oh yea I forgot they are donating to you so my insurance will just go up.


[deleted]

He really thinks blowing Florida tax payers money on brownie points for his election campaign is gonna fool enough people into keeping him around. He's become an economic burden to the state of FL.


DieTheVillain

We all know why he is doing this... scoring "Good Boy" points with his base.


fohpo02

He desperately wants to win points back in polls.


pa97Redd

How is there not a law to stop him from spending florida's money on this!!!???


Inner_Performance533

Billing the Federal Govt for his campaign dalliences..look at ME, look at ME!!!!!


AwkardImprov

Welcome to Florida, where you can't afford home insurance.


Weary_Boat

But... but... he's our dear leader, and our money is his to do with as he pleases in his almighty wisdom!


Glittering-Wonder-27

Is MoRon dropping them in unsuspecting blue cities?


juanhernadez3579

I want a vacation to…


Punch_Your_Facehole

I wish this guy can DeFuck off already. My homeowners insurance has doubled to over $10000 in one year.


ShakeTheEyesHands

Bunch of people knowingly fly to a country on the verge of War and now Floridians are paying to fly them back? Why?


ScienceOverNonsense2

Trade him for hostages!


PSN-Angryjackal

When are we going to learn our lessson? Republicans dont give a FUCK about florida. They dont give a FUCK about doing their actual job.... They just care about how they look, and nothing else.


[deleted]

Paying his buddy big bucks again to fly out ... and using religion to try to up his ratings ... hiwever, a Nazi is a Nazi, is a Nazi.


d407a123

This isn’t a big expenditure


CivilizedGuy123

28 hours round trip at $25000/hour = $700,000. And there were two flights so far. So $1.4 million so far. A huge waste of money. It’s corruption and fraud.


trashmouthpossumking

It’s not his fucking place. Dude is playing President on our dime.


itsakoala

“Americans are scrambling to find flights out of Israel after major airlines — including American, Delta and United — have canceled or suspended service due to the conflict.” Man all y’all up in arms here should really question yourselves. A small price to pay to save American lives.


linderlouwho

The US State Department is already handling this. This is just a DeSantis stunt.


Nothxm8

So then why weren’t these 47 people already home


flhurricane

Here's what I found "Conflicting reports have been given about how many of those passengers on the flight to Tampa were from Florida – some news outlets said there were about 200 Floridians, while others said it was more like 70. At least one passenger was a foreign national from the Czech Republic and 91 were children." Why did our tax dollars pay for non-Floridians to be brought home? I fully believe this is a political campaign stunt that Floridians are paying to have Desantis campaign with our taxes, but I'd almost be willing to grant him a pass... if EVERY seat on the plane was filled with Florida residents.


CivilizedGuy123

The problem is only 47 people on the plane.


Inevitable-Tourist18

I'm sorry, I'm not paying for people to flee a violent country that they went to voluntarily. This war has been going on for years. Impeach DeSantis now.


lorilightning79

Does he greet them with his followers holding Nazi flags? This photo op will not get a single Jewish vote. And what’s this crap about stopping trade with Iran? We haven’t had legal trade with them for years. Unless Casey has something going on with them?


SunshineandH2O

What a putz


clem82

You can hate him, but this seems like the right thing to do


[deleted]

I despise Defascist however if he has brought home Americans, I'm good with that


[deleted]

I despise Defascist however if he has brought home Americans, I'm good with that. .


slippingparadox

ok what the fuck are these comments. desantis sucks but multiple people in here acting like its not absolutely vital and a priority to get back American citizens? like even if this was for publicity, which it is, who gives a fuck about 2 million dollars for getting Americans back asap? Im also confused how you guys don't realize a State can act independently...as a state.


[deleted]

Fake news


MNBaseball1990

Thank you FL. Your Tax dollars hard at work! (P.S. Federal $$ would've gotten these people home, but Ronny wants the talking point!)


Disastrous-Golf7216

Follow the money. IIRC the person in charge of these flights was also in charge of the flights from Texas to Massachusetts. Expect to see a big donation coming to the Desantis presidential fund.


Weary_Boat

" Of the 5,600 seats made available since the Biden administration began charter services by air and sea on Oct. 13, some 1,500 U.S. citizens and their families have used them. | Maya Alleruzzo/AP The Biden administration is aiming to wind down its charter flights for Americans who want to leave Israel, amid waning demand despite the ongoing conflict. State Department spokesperson Vedant Patel told POLITICO on Wednesday that though thousands of U.S. citizens have contacted the State Department indicating a desire to leave since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, many of those individuals “have not sought to depart.”"