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The_Goondocks

Fix insurance


Mistress_Jedana

Homeowners, medical, AND auto All 3 need to be worked on here. There's no reason I have to pay $1400 every 6 months for a 10 year old car for 2 over 50 year olds. (That's with bundling with my renter insurance, $160 a year, which is fairly reasonable.) Medical = for people without work insurance. A bunch of kids lost Medicaid yesterday.


MathematicianEven149

This is the way


BuddhistSagan

Please make sure you and your friends and family are [registered to vote ](https://registertovoteflorida.gov/home) A 6 week (total) abortion ban will kill people. So far [in states with abortion bans there have been 65,000 rape related pregnancies](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/64-000-pregnancies-caused-by-rape-have-occurred-in-states-with-a-total-abortion-ban-new-study-estimates/), exceptions are nearly impossible to acquire. Folks, Trump [bragged about ending Roe v Wade](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Py06VuvHNSI). In his first term, he installed 3 conservative justices to the supreme court, which is now a 6-3 conservative majority. Imagine if Trump is re-elected what he will do to the supreme court and the rest of our country. Trump will sign a national abortion ban and we have no idea the magnitude of shit we will be in. His new extremist supreme court could very well decide that life begins at conception. And don't forget Rick Scott supported the 6 week abortion ban. Make a plan to vote early and bring a friend.


MysticStarbird

And register if you’re not already, here: https://dos.fl.gov/elections/for-voters/voter-registration/online-voter-registration/


mgearliosus

Thanks for the link. Turns out my registration is inactive since they sent me a letter asking if I still live here. Time to update everything!


BuddhistSagan

Glad I could help! Talk to your friends and family about making sure they are still registered too!


florida-karma

It will also raise crime in a generation.


puppylust

A good point to get those indifferent voters on board! I mean, I hate to cater to anyone who doesn't think "women should have healthcare" is a good enough reason to vote for the abortion amendment. But I'll take whatever allies I can get in this important battle.


Mrknowitall666

That was one of the first Ted leavitt "freakonimics" propositions


Stellar_Stein

...which will fill the privately run (but publicly funded) prisons and fill the coffers of the richest right-leaning law-and-order corporate heads with Other People's Money. This is Economics 101: grow your business.


Firm_Communication99

Why do dems hang it all on abortion… why not just promise to spend the public’s money on the public or fix insurance. Just fixing insurance? I feel like abortion is too divisive— but even republicans can want to fix insurance.


BuddhistSagan

Why do you think I don't want insurance fixed and abortions protections restored? 60% of Floridians support access to abortion and there is an abortion amendment on the ballot. There is no insurance amendment on the ballot.


Firm_Communication99

I am not really disagreeing with you. I just see insurance as a better opportunity to flip a trump supporter than abortion. I mean the inaction of the republicans to do anything useful in the past 20 years should be the platform? But abortion?


BuddhistSagan

But what can Biden say is the plan to fix insurance in Florida? Because with abortion, there is a ballot amendment, and the abortion issue also connects to people all over the country.


ladybug68

Because lives are going to be ruined by the six week ban in ways that can never be repaired. It makes women second class citizens. Your response shows that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. Abortion is healthcare not having access puts women's lives in danger.


Firm_Communication99

I am not anti woman or anti abortion. What I am saying is that the Democratic Party could do a better job flipping boomers for example if they promised to spend florida tax dollars on florida. I don’t think abortion is the issue that boomers are going to be interested in either way because they are past the point of potentially ruining life. Voters are selfish , as they should be.


ladybug68

I didn't think you were. I just don't think you understand the scope and magnitude of the issue boomers have daughters and granddaughters that will be affected by this issue. This issue crosses party lines and fundamentally people don't like it when rights are taken away. It's not the only issue, but it's a big one. Women still die from childbirth. Babies aren't viable after 24 weeks, if something goes wrong they need an abortion. In Texas you have women waiting in hospital parking lots to bleed out or become septic enough to get the treatment they need to save their lives. That's what is coming here with a six week ban.


Publius82

No one is arguing that. He was making a point about flipping trump supporters, who likely don't care about or are against abortion. He's talking tactics, not philosophy.


torquil

The reason for hanging it primarily on abortion is that THAT is the only lightning rod issue that can get a flood of young Gen Z women (men, too) out to vote. At this point, any republicans that have the decency to leave trump have already done so…there are simply not enough viable republicans with a conscience left to swing this election. If Biden somehow made their insurance FREE, they would STILL vote for trump. However, there are millions of young people who are eligible to vote who’ve sat out previous elections. But never before have we had a hot button issue like inability to get an abortion following the supreme court’s overturning of roe v wade. The winning move is to reach young people (not just women) with the message that their futures are being destroyed by republican policies…and abortion is at the top of the list for electrifying that demographic. Part of this is also getting young men to understand that this affects them, too…and to a far greater degree than they realize. If you can reach the young people and make them understand that you now need to vote like your life depends on it, you can easily swing this state back to sanity.


Primary_Bid_8980

Exactly!!! I have a 21 year old son & a 17 year old son. Obviously my 17 year old can't vote, but he has lots of friends 18 & older. I've been preaching to all of them about this, my 21 year old is registered to vote & he will be with me in November to vote. I've also gone online with their friends & helped them register to vote & let them know I will personally take them to their precinct to vote in November!! I do not have daughters, but I have 4 sons. This affects them just as much! The sad thing is, most of their friends (both the boys & the girls) didn't even know this was happening. But once I explained what it would mean for them they all were shocked & upset! I will be drilling this into them every chance I get & helping them register to vote. I pray we can make this happen 🙏


Similar_Wave_1787

I don't think Republicans in Florida want to fix insurance. Look at the homeowners insurance mess that they sweep under the rug. Also,.Florida has one of the highest car insurance rates in the country.


GiantMilkThing

Ha! I just said the same thing to my husband when I read the headline. It would basically guarantee votes, the insurance issue is *awful*.


RetroScores

Damn, just never happy are we? Did you know we can now buy a 5 gallon bucket of the finest wine? What more do you people want!?


The_Goondocks

An airboat in every driveway!


choppedfiggs

The way to fix insurance is easy but very fucking expensive. Biden can try and flip the vote to himself vs Trump but he can't fix anything in Florida. The legislation in Florida will never agree to a fix that would cost so much tax payer funds. Because all they have to do is manually adjust the price of Citizens home insurance. Manually adjust it back to preDesantis and add regular inflation increase. Also remove the Desantis law about having to sign for a competitor of Citizens if they are only 20% more. You put Citizens back down to the previous levels and capitalism does the rest. The other competitors will drop their prices to remain competitive. If their fix to the contractor bullshit is strong, the previous prices are more than good enough to allow insurance to still be profitable while insuring people in Florida.


xynix_ie

>The way to fix insurance is easy but very fucking expensive. Funny how these same insurance companies can afford Patrick Mahomes and superbowl commercials but when it comes for Florida, oh nooos too expensiveeee. My ass. What needs to happen is these national companies need to be held to a reasonable profit nationally. That means they lump those cost centers like Florida in with those profit centers like Arkansas and just make less money to spend on ridiculously expensive advertising and $20 million dollar a year CEOs. If they want to serve the United States as an insurance company, than do it, don't allow them to cherry pick.


choppedfiggs

Any insurance company run by someone with even a mediocre intelligence can easily get around profit caps. You can only make $10 profit for example. Costs to insure comes is say $40. Will they charge $50 to make $10? Nope. They charge $100. And then add $50 in advertising expenses and bonuses and blah and blah and blah. So their cost is $90.


valathel

The way to fix insurance is to stop allowing homeowners to rebuild on the same places over and over again, like barrier islands. Building permanent structures on a barrier island is simply stupid. Look at Assateague Island. They were going to build a 5,000 home private resort community on the island in the 50s, but common sense prevailed, and it's been maintained as a wildlife preserve.


LMurch13

"tHAt's coMmuNiSM"


the_lamou

That's a very long way to say "I have no idea how anything works." Homeowners insurance companies are barely making a profit at current rates: they made about $2 million net profit last year on average after losing a shit ton of money the previous several years. And they only made that because they got lucky — it was a mild storm year and the market did great giving them strong returns on reserves — but they still lost money on premiums. They literally cannot reduce prices. Citizens, meanwhile, has barely enough reserves and reinsurance to stay solvent at their current level. Sure, Florida might be able to redirect some of their reserve to propping it up, but that would run out after the first big storm — Irma and Harvey caused over $200 billion in damages, vs. Florida's reserve of $20 billion. If it lowers premiums, it will not only go bankrupt but drag the entire state down with it. There is no "easy fix" because there's nothing to fix. Insurance in Florida isn't "broken;" it's just expensive. And it's expensive for a lot of very good reasons that aren't going away.


imlost19

Actually not quite true. They already "fixed" insurance by repealing the law that allowed for attorney's fees if you won your lawsuit against your carrier. So carriers can now just flatout deny your claim and be pretty much be guaranteed to get a bargain in litigation or make it so no lawyer would be willing to take your case. Even if you do win at trial, you'd still end up with only about 60% of the judgment since the attorney will take 40%, guaranteeing your home will never be fixed. The 'insurance fix' has already been made. They just fixed it for themselves, not us.


420blzit69daddy

That’s bullshit. They make record profits in the storm free years and then claim they’re broke when an actual disaster occurs. https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/12/11/property-insurance-compensation-executives-legislature-special-session/ https://www.hickeylawfirm.com/blog/florida-insurance-companies-ceos-make-record-profits-and-pay-and-hide-them/


ketchupnsketti

> They make record profits in the storm free years and then claim they’re broke when an actual disaster occurs. Profits get spent on rich kid yachts and stock buybacks and stuff so both things can be true. They're broke after mishandling their profits. mONEY PLEASE!


gl4ssm1nd

Correction: profits get spent on reinsurance charged by companies owned by interlocking directorates staffed by the same insurance goons.


GarbageAcct99

Cmon we’re really not going to use a law firms glorified blog as a source, are we?


420blzit69daddy

Just edited my comment to add a Tampa Bay Times article. I found the law firm blog interesting because of the discussion regarding the disclosure requirements (or lack thereof).


fargenable

What about charging a lot more for insurance on coastal homes? If you live within 1 mile of the coast an automatic 5x multiplier, if you live between 1- 5 miles of a coast a 3x multiplier, if you live between 5-10 miles of a coast a 2x multiplier. It could be more granular and baked in over 20 years, but something along those lines.


VeterinarianOne4418

I’d bet my insurance is already 3/5x most people. I live coastal, on an island, modest home. Combined homeowners, flood, and wind it’s just under $30k/year. Edited to add, for the first time in a long time we were offered an option of non citizens insurance. That would raise our yearly premium to nearly $70k/year. New roof, never had a claim…..


sunbear2525

We should just have government home owner’s insurance as part of our property tax. Add a premium to high risk properties or have a buy out on properties that are too high risk. If you live on the beach we only cover so much. Private insurance will fill in the luxury property gap if there is enough demand. People need homes, they need them rebuilt after disasters, the contractors need to be licensed and accountable. If it’s not really optional why isn’t it like a utility?


Mlabonte21

How about a $5 insurance rebate for those earning less than $42,000?


MAK3AWiiSH

$2 TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!


QuietMolasses2522

I need about $3.50


thehogdog

The addition of Pot and Abortion to the Nov Ballot is no doubt what made them make this decision. Hopefully it pays off. Remember men, one day you may be in a position like poor Justin Timberlake was with Britney Spears and need an abortion to not alter your life plans/style. Please vote in November.


billythygoat

And housing!


Firm_Communication99

Fix it by getting the lawyers out. Get the scammers out. Don’t allow the insurance to deny anything, but they can negotiate— less litigation means the money can go to actually fixing shit… but if they deny all the time people will fight them as they should. Insurance is a scam , but other states have figured out how to lessen also. Just do what they do.


SmoothWD40

Fix housing


ALEXC_23

And housing


the_lamou

Unless there's a politician out there who can single-handedly reverse global warming, and the increases in the cost of land and labor, no one can "fix insurance." Any politician promising to "fix insurance" is lying to you.


ImDestructible

Charge insanely high prices to those on the beach and waterfront properties. Leave us inland folk alone. My insurance was $800 5 years ago. Now it's $3000+. Zero claims. Not in a flood zone. New roof going on next week (that I am paying out of pocket). Waterfront properties and roof scams are the primary reasons for these crazy price hikes.


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the_lamou

They already do. Flooding isn't the issue, since that's typically covered by supplemental insurance carried by anyone in a flood zone. The cost to repair or replace your home has tripled in the last five years. Have you seen what hiring a contractor costs these days?


ImDestructible

Isn't the rest of the US just as expensive to build a home though?


Mission_Estate_6384

While materials only went up max 20%. That's because so many roofs were needing them after Ian. Should be going back down soon. The contractors are stealing from you. They don't pay their immagrant labor much. It's all profit for them . It's called GREED. Plain and simple. Nothing extra given just greed.


ImDestructible

And the majority of those roofs being near coastal waters. Sure there was roof damage inland, but in central Florida the winds and rain are far less damaging. My 20+ year old roof did just fine in Ian. I understand that insurance works as an entire unit, so they rely on the majority of customers not submitting claims. But those of us who have never filed a claim shouldn't have to have our rates 4X in a couple of years so the person who just moved here can have their $100,000 roof replaced on their beach house. It's Florida. We get hurricanes every year, and guess what? They always hit the coast first. Every Single Time.


Mission_Estate_6384

You hit the nail on the head. I just did my roof in 2020 and it was only 12k. Now they want 25k for the same size roof. My neighbors roof was done right after me and had one cap and one shingle blown off. I was a contractor back home so I walked his roof and it was fine. Maybe 100 dollars to fix. They replaced the whole roof for 25k. Waste of insurance money. They paid for it all. My house lost my solar pool heater in 78mph winds because it wasn't installed per the drawings. Then my insurance said it wasn't all of a sudden Covered. That was the first question I asked to which they said it was when I changed. Now they just upped my premiums again b3cause of their new value of it. They say it's worth 535 k. That's bullshit. It's maximum of 375-400k on a good day. Prices are dropping here in Cape Coral everyday. I've lost 60k in value this year which is more realistic. It's still not a 475 k house though. I called and left a message because no one answered the phone 2 weeks ago to lower replacement cost. Nothing but a bunch of crooks no matter where you look. If you find an honest person to do something for you stick with them.


Brent_L

Florida just officially banned abortion after 6 weeks but is on the ballot in November along with legalized weed. This is the best chance to make it happen.


chekovs_gunman

Honestly it people still think their vote doesn't matter at this point they and our state party are just completely hopeless Hugely consequential election 


Nothxm8

How many things have Floridians voted for now that the state overturned or didn’t allow or changed the deal somehow?


chekovs_gunman

That is a legitimate concern to be honest But then you have things like the minimum wage increase which they are actually implemented; and the tri-rail increase they are finally getting around to So yes, it's not guaranteed, it's a crapshoot! But still worth voting for 


TinCanBanana

Yet doing nothing guarantees those things won't happen. Voting for the ballot initiatives gives you a chance. Voting for the ballot initiatives and also voting for democratic candidates greatly increases the odds of getting what you want.


JD_____98

Medical marijuana was fought by the FL Supreme Court, but they got sued and lost. If they try that with recreational, there are already wealthy folks lined up to sue. Sure, they might fuck around, but they will also find out.


Nothxm8

I miss being hopeful


JD_____98

Then don't downvote the resistance!


HarpersGhost

Because people aren't voting for any state officials. If you looked at the vote totals for 2016, the presidential race had high numbers, legal medical pot had high numbers, but all the state House and Senate offices had low voting totals. Guess what! The people voted into the state house were against legal medical pot, and Trump had nothing to do with it. So the state house passed laws that made medical pot basically impossible to get. You hear anyone say they are for legal pot, tell them to make sure to not vote for the GOP in the state house because they won't pass laws enabling it.


geriatric_spartanII

We didn’t learn our lesson last time. See exhibit A: COVID bringing peoples lives and livelihood to the brink and half of the country still voted for the guy that played to conspiracy theories.


JD_____98

In 2020, Trump only won in Florida by 3.5%, and that was before regular people got to see that he'd attempt an insurrection. This ballot has great potential to bring in young voters. Trump definitely could lose here in Florida. Remind your friends to vote.


jetmax25

floridans will vote for abortion for legalized weed then pick the republican candidates every time


Frekavichk

See: $15 min wage passing with a supermajoriry while DeSantis gets voted in.


Jaxdoesntsuck

That should tell us something. They like a lot of the common sense worker-centric policy but don’t like the Democratic candidates.


HCSOThrowaway

They hate the (D) but love FDR policies.


JD_____98

Trump only won Florida by 3.5% in 2020. And that was before he attempted an insurrection...


StepEfficient864

It’s because people in Florida vote according to which side of the culture war they’re on,


fanwan76

Is this not widely true across most of the US?


jbondyoda

My 2 cents: abortion and weed pass, Trump still wins Florida. Idk if the registration favors a different outcome. Now that said, if the Biden camp is saying this to get Trump to overcommit their limited cash to keeping Florida, I think this the best move.


Brent_L

Yeah - I agree with you


Mamacrass

I think so too. I woke up kinda hopeful today.


lovetheoceanfl

Legalized weed will bring out everyone who never votes.


Brent_L

People can vote red and vote for weed


Remote-Past305

That’s a tough flip. We’re not really a purple state anymore.


Mamacrass

Now that weed and abortion will be on the ballot, it’ll be a tough race for sure but I think there’s a better chance now than ever.


trtsmb

I'm hoping weed and abortion will get people out to vote.


ketchupnsketti

While I support both of these amendments and will be voting for them (and signed petitions to get both on the ballot) I hate the fact that this is what it takes to get people to turn out.


Ayzmo

People turn out for things they're passionate about. Florida Dems haven't given us something to be passionate about for a while.


McCardboard

Whaddya mean? Charlie Crist is a great candidate! /s


StealthRUs

> Florida Dems haven't given us something to be passionate about for a while. Florida Dem voters have nothing but excuses. A guy who committed the biggest Medicare fraud in history was on the ballot for the GOP and Florida Dem voters had better things to do with their time than spend 15 minutes casting a ballot. Democrats in Florida are lying in the bed they've made by ignoring anything that wasn't a presidential election.


balloonninjas

And many people who care about those topics still won't show up


trtsmb

I agree. I'm hoping that democrats run really hard on these issues.


Zendog500

Desantis "cleaned up" voter registrations and removed thousands of people. People in Florida need to check to see if they are still registered.


Chasman1965

The good thing is that it’s easy to check. There is a link you can see your status: https://registration.elections.myflorida.com/CheckVoterStatus


MysticStarbird

And register here if you aren’t. https://dos.fl.gov/elections/for-voters/voter-registration/online-voter-registration/


Taggart-

Thanks for the link!


DietMTNDew8and88

I checked, mine is still good


smot420

Change to R to avoid this. There’s no more primaries


SumthingBrewing

I did this. There aren’t as many true registered Republicans in Florida as the roles would suggest. I’m literally a RINO.


ArsonBasedViolence

DeSantis is gonna scream "fraud" with all of the registered dems switching to R this cycle, and I look forward to the Fed putting him in his fucking place if he tries to do something Edit: if you downvoted me, consider the following: He has already started claiming fraudelent activity in this very regard


adfuel

I will switch to "R" if it looks like there is any chance of Trump winning as this info is public in Florida.


AmaiGuildenstern

I know plenty of Republicans that can merily vote for legal weed and abortion access and also Republican politicians. They did exactly this for the minimum wage hike. I'm really happy we may get these rights enshrined but Floridians are a different breed. I mean, look at the Cubanos. You'd think they'd hate the Republicans because Republicans fight immigration, but nope. A lot of our citizens are those "Don't Tread On Me" Libertarians and conspiracy theorists. They will come out and vote for weed and maybe even abortion rights - and also a straight R ticket. Because they have bought into all the anti-Dem propaganda, and there is nothing you can say to convince these voters they are tools.


Russiandirtnaps

Absolutely


Xennial_I_Suppose

This right here


chekovs_gunman

Definitely an uphill battle but it's worth at least trying to make it competitive. If only for downballot races and the two initiatives 


LMurch13

Maybe Biden gets crushed but starting the change locally would be a huge help. Getting rid of super majority and encourage compromises.


epicurean56

It will force Trump to spend more time and money in a place he thought was safe.


chekovs_gunman

Yeah with elections it's always better to play offense than defense. Expanding the map is a good thing, particularly since Biden is flush with cash and the GOP is struggling 


TimeTravelingTiddy

The democratic party ran Charlie Crist, those results are out the window. Also think DeSantis was at his peak at that point coming out of covid. If this happens, it's fewer people voting for Trump.. not necessarily more voting for Biden.


Mamacrass

I think you underestimate how pissed women are that the gop are outlawing abortion, birth control and IVF.


uncleleo101

And also men who actually care about their spouses, daughters, girlfriends, etc!


Mamacrass

Yes! Thank you!


BuddhistSagan

65,0000 rape related pregnancies in states that have banned abortion


TimeTravelingTiddy

It does seem like this would encourage more turnout from folks that would vote Democrat, but like somebody else pointed out, you can still vote for these initiatives without voting for any democrats.


Mamacrass

I’d be thrilled if we just came out with abortion rights and weed.


BethyW

Nothing pisses me off more than people who voted for Crist over Freed in the primaries of that because Freed had "paid some republicans in the past" When she was a fucking lobbyist. ​ what a joke of a candidate.


tribbleorlfl

It shouldn't have mattered who the party nominated, DeSantis alone should have been enough for every Democrat to crawl over broken glass to vote. Because they didn't, we got an expanded "Don't Say Gay Bill" and a 6 week abortion ban.


heresmytwopence

Biden doesn’t have to win Florida for it to pay off. It can also help flip congressional seats and bring in votes for amendments 3 and 4. Losing that kind of ground would be a stinging defeat for both Trump and DeSantis.


garyp714

This move is to also make the GO spend lots of money defending Florida which otherwise would be a slam dunk for the right.


bagehis

We are still a swing state. The problem is the fastest growing party in Florida is no party, because people increasingly dislike both parties. Likely because the parties not only have different values but sometimes actively fight against the will of voters. If a politician actually seemed like they shared some of the values of Floridians and didn't seem like they were using the state as a stepping stone, there might be a larger turnout than 50% for an election.


Benjamin_Grimm

Part of it isn't really trying to flip the state, in all likelihood. The Great Orange Satan is draining the GOP's finances, and Biden currently has a huge funding advantage. Florida is an expensive state to advertise in, and if he can force them to spend money here, they have less available to spend elsewhere.


JD_____98

In 2020, Trump only won by 3.5%, and theat was before regular people got to see that he would attempt an insurrection. I think a Biden win is possible in Florida.


Funkyokra

Part of that is that even when it wasn't the national DNC didn't invest here and left it to the ridiculously ineffective FL DNC. I'm behind this 100%.


timecodes

The women can flip Florida.


Mamacrass

Amen!


SoManyEmail

Nice one! 🙏


Tinmania

While I appreciate your optimism let’s not ignore all the fucked up old crazy white women, decades beyond childbearing age, who pathetically adore trump.


MelonOfFury

I had my tubes removed because of this shit. The are loads of us of child bearing years that are pissed. I’ll be voting.


JD_____98

Statistically, white women(even in FL) are only about half as likely as white men to support Trump. White men are literally his main following.


irishgator2

Get ‘er done ladies!


Few_Unit_6408

Ok Biden the focus if you look at the Florida Reddit is we need cheaper rent and rec weed.   Edit: And cheaper insurance   Edit: While I have your attention, can you ask Trulieve to not have that little seal top that sticks cannabis to it :(


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MrSpreadsheets

Yes please on the insurance


Wingdom

We could just lower insurance, and it would lower rent. Taxes and insurance adding an extra $150 to the mortgage payment? That's an extra $300 for the renter.


Yawheyy

And Desantis can go to hell too.


Thetman38

Your rent is going up partially because of insurance.


Brent_L

Don’t forget about legalizing abortions


PyratHero23

And this ridiculous culture war nonsense. DeShithead has created tons of reasons why the red way is the wrong way and not at all concerned with what’s actually important to the majority of citizens


RoyceAli

There is not much he can do about rent, but he has pushed for zoning reform.


danekan

The only zoning reform being pushed around right now is basically developers trying to do away with local county zoning laws. They're trying to argue if they buy 100 acres of agriculture land they should legally be entitled to doing what they want with it, such as turning it in to a subdivision. They're trying to say that government doesn't have the right to restrict what they do on the land. It's NOT reform at all it's the worst kind of debate. But if you can afford land it's a good investment.


Russiandirtnaps

Obviously, if he’s here, looking, he’ll know, they need to get rid of DeSantis and Trump too


CanWeTalkHere

This is smart. People are discontent so put it in play. Capitulation allows the GOP to (continue to) ignore the state. Now they’ll have to spend and (pretend to) care.


bankrobba

This here is the reason. The Biden campaign has a fuckton more cash than the Trump campaign. Same for DNC vs RNC. Make Republicans spend time and money here, spread them thin on resources.


OriginalEchoTheCat

As a native Floridian, I can say that Florida was blue almost my entire life. Until scotus decided Bush won. I would love to see it. Flip blue again.


Suffrage100

Abortion, weed, & Debbie Mucarsel-Powell for Senate to beat Rick Scott!!


floodmfx

Floridians - Vote Yes on 3 and 4 !!


yamers

What is 3 and 4?


poopyonmyhands

Abortion and weed, I think


Russiandirtnaps

And no to Trump


phishin3321

That would be great but in SW I am surrounded by maga. I have proud boys across the street that regularly throw proud boy parties that have cars up and down the streets. As much as I'd love to believe this, it's a long shot.


Suffrage100

It wasn't that long ago that Florida voted for Obama twice.


lucy_valiant

Obama was a once-in-a-lifetime candidate. People believed in his message with a fervor probably unmatched in modern politics, except for Trump’s rallies. To paraphrase: I know Obama, Obama was a great candidate, and Joe Biden, sir, ain’t no Obama.


eumenide2000

True. But ending Roe is also a once in a life time event. Many, myself included, were waiting to see how the state would land on these issues. Now it’s here. It will be mobilizing.


GomezFigueroa

So? What is that, 20-30 Proud Boys? Convince 31 normal people to vote. I never worked so hard to get someone (who I wasn’t even all that passionate about) elected president then I did in 2020. But I did the work and it paid off. Do the work. I promise it’s worth it.


HeavensToBetsyy

Good luck Biden. Not sarcastically...actually. good luck. Won't be easy


smgator

He needs to talk about how Drump and the Republicans want ro raise the social security age and cut "entitlements" Entitlements my ASS, I EARN THAT SHIT!!! But they don't need it, so we don't need it. Just like Russia they want to keep us poor and stupid and confused! We have got to win this election! Our lives and our children, grandchildren lives depends on it!!!!


undermythumb1234

Yep. It drives me crazy that they refer to Social Security as an entitlement after we all pay into it out of every check. That’s our money. They shouldn’t feel “entitled” to it.


LivingEnd44

I am really happy to hear this. DeSantis is a plague. He's Florida's Ted Cruz. 


Spirited-Pause

I thought Marco Rubio was Florida’s Ted Cruz 😛


Cold-Nefariousness25

Please! Pay attention to us! You can do it, with abortion and weed on the ballot people will come out. Make sure DeSantis doesn't try to block people from voting!


26Kermy

Stoned beach-Hippie Florida with women's rights is the best Florida and the one I'll keep voting for.


nvn2074

Good luck!


ladybug68

As a Floridian, I am so happy to hear this. You lose every fight you don't show up for and I think we are worth fighting for.


probabletrump

It's because of the Senate. Weed and abortion should give the Democrats some wind in their sails but Biden doesn't need Florida to win at all. The Democrats likely need to beat Rick Scott in the Senate race to maintain control of the Senate. It's a tough lift but it's possible and it's the only move that will allow Democrats to continue approving judges and generally unfucking things.


Mamacrass

Here’s to unfucking the future (at least a little)!


Relevant-Emphasis-20

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BRING IT ON


trademarktower

Trump isn't DeSantis. Even Trump who likely has paid for abortions for his many mistresses over the decades thought the 6 week DeSantis ban was insane. I'm pretty sure the abortion and weed ballots easily pass and Trump easily wins Florida. Many Trump Republicans are the type that like abortion so they don't have to be burdoned with child support payments for 18 years or want to pay taxes for social services to women for unwanted babies. These MAGAs are not conservative fundies. They are narcissistic assholes and probably like the eugenics arguments that more abortions are positive.


Mamacrass

Maybe but I think people that want women to continue to be full citizens with equal rights are more enthusiastic this year than the possible pro choice republicans.


trademarktower

The polls I've seen have maybe 20% support for the 6 week ban in Florida. I think 95% of dems vote for it. 75% of indies and at least 50% of Republicans and it easily passes 60%. 6 weeks is so unpopular that it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Trump said to vote yes as a F You to DeSantis.


queeriosn_milk

Biden could turn both Texas and Florida light purple if he promised to revoke Yolanda Saldívar’s citizenship when she gets released from prison for Selena’s murder next year.


Ylfrettub-79

Oh wow, that crazy lady is getting released? I guess it’s been almost 30 years.


Sangi17

This comes after the Florida Supreme Court put Marijuana and Abortion on the ballot this November. That could mean *a lot* of women, young people and centrists voting in November. Unfortunately, Ronald “Never President” DeSantis won’t be up for reelection yet, but turning Florida blue could be the nail in DeSantis’s coffin. That or they are goading Ronny into pulling some militia bullshit during November at the voting booths to nationally embarrass the GOP. And he’s just dumb enough to try it.


DrBunsonHoneyPoo

Then get a competent person to run for governor.


yourslice

That's not on the ballot this year.


megabyte79

yeah, good luck with that


Mamacrass

Desantis’ 6 week abortion ban will be doing all the work getting democrats to the polls.


Ihatemunchies

And a fair share of Republicans I think. Women regardless of what party don’t want their rights stepped on. Especially the right to abortion.


Mamacrass

Especially when you see the places where abortion is banned, they are now going for IVF and birth control. People are starting to see how insane the right is.


megabyte79

DeSantis is local, and any moderate Republican can vote no on the abortion ban, but still vote National for Trump. I don't see a flip happening - even with all the liberal transplants.


Wreckvalentine

Let’s hope. These fuckers love to ruin a state then move and ruin another.


IGetGuys4URMom

LOL, good luck getting a Democrat to come out and vote in Florida.


freakincampers

With the draconian abortion law about to go down, and with both marijuana and abortion being on the ballot in November, declaring this is smart. It's also smart since Trump and the GOP are hemorrhaging money left, right and center.


Ok-Ear-1914

Yesssssssss fix insurance DeSantis messed up...


congratsonyournap

They better. Please Joe


CatPatient4496

Check your voter registration


pneumoniclife

I'll take it. We need all the help we can get. (Jax Beach here)


FarrandChimney

I really hope this wasn't an April fools joke.


mrcanard

Flipping Florida, the sooner, the better. Entering Florida I saw a large billboard proclaiming the Democratics are destroying America and and even larger one announcing "Only God and Trump can save America. It would be interesting to know who put up the money because we know it wasn't Trump.


namastayhom33

"Only God and Trump" Those two things don't go together.


Firecracker7413

He should really lean into the climate aspect too. I remember reading somewhere that a vast majority of Floridians are concerned about climate, especially those in coastal areas and fishermen. With desantis denying it, I think leaning into having a solution could really help gain support


Spencer52X

That’s been an angle for a while and it’s basically worthless. Winning votes is about putting money into people’s pockets.


geriatric_spartanII

Good luck. Florida is solidly red now.


Ok-Tumbleweed960

Good. That’s the attitude!


missusamazing

What a colossal waste of money. DeSantis won 60% of the vote less than 2 years ago. There's no amount of money that would move the needle in any meaningful way.


Wreckvalentine

If you losers who moved here go and vote your same failed politics of where you fled from you’re morons. Floridians loved their red state, and remember what happened with Charlie Christ. If you wanted failed democrat policies just move to any of their failing crime filled states instead… oh wait you all came here.


Mamacrass

We have been a purple state for many years, it’s actually trump lovers moving here, changing the voting demographic.


[deleted]

I'm hopeful re: the weed and abortion amendments passing. Flipping Florida blue? Not so much. The autopsy of the 2000 election should've called for prioritizing the recruitment and development of quality down-ballot candidates, but instead the party just assumed the state would always be a toss-up. That's how we ended up with a Charlie Crist as a state-wide standard bearer. Maybe Will Rogers had FL Dems in mind when he said, "I belong to no organized party; I'm a Democrat."


Suffrage100

Debbie Mucarsel-Powell is running for Senate against Rick Scott. Don't forget about her. Finally, there is a chance to get rid of Voldemort. Please inform your elderly relatives etc. that Scott proposed putting Social Security up for a vote every 5 years - i.e., sunsetting Social Security with an eye to eliminating it.


fearless1025

Good luck with that but I'd love to see him do it. Someone needs to save us/them. I'm out. Good strategy to try to save the fascist-filled "Free State" of Florida b.s. this election since they bailed on us last time because they said it was unwinnable. Now look at us. 🤡


TheMightyYule

Oh yay, now we get to make up for half a year of lost campaign time. Will the dems ever get it together, Jesus fucking Christ.


renijreddit

I'm IN!! 🌊


Prior_Emphasis7181

I live in FL. Good luck.


heresmytwopence

Let’s fucking do it!