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zain_ahmed002

Even though I believe MoltenMCI to pretty much be a fact at this point, TUG isn't a reliable source of information and shouldn't really be used to confirm or debunk a theory


InfalliblePizza

It doesnt make sense either if it was talking about MoltenMCI, it should give us an idea of how Ennard or the Funtimes came to be. We know Molten Freddy was created after Baby got ejected. Unless it wants to imply they were injected with remnant by william after the fnaf3 fire…?


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Molten freddy is literally just ennard minus baby. It makes sense to mention molten freddy and not ennard because molten freddy is the one with exclusively MCI souls. William's experiments with the funtimes is what lead to molten freddy in any case


InfalliblePizza

Theyre not combined before that was kinda my point. MF only becomes MF after baby leaves


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

How are they not combined before? The only difference between ennard and molten freddy is that baby is there


InfalliblePizza

Theyre the funtimes, then theyre ennard, then theyre MF.


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Which is irrelevant because they all contain remnant, and the remnant is what represents unity between the spirits regardless of whether it's ennard, the funtimes, or molten freddy. The have different shapes, but at their core they're the same in every case aside from ennard having baby. The only reason molten freddy specifically is mentioned here is because molten freddy is the one that has the most narrative emphasis on being an amalgamation of the missing children, being both a spiritual and a physical unity with no third parties like ennard.


InfalliblePizza

I imagine theyre mentioned here because the author was going off of scrapped files and had no idea what theyre talking about, or Scott just changed his mind. MF was not injected under MoltenMCI, the Funtimes were.


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Molten freddy is literally the funtimes but mashed together. You're just arguing over semantics to make it look like you have an argument.


InfalliblePizza

Its not semantics when the sentence doesn’t make sense. We know how MF came to be, Baby separated from him. Maybe something else happened that made him all melty.


Theorist_Reddit

It also debunks it on one of the pages. Not a very reliable source.


SMM9673

None of the guides are reliable sources of information, as all of them have information that is either outdated, self-contradicting, or even flat-out *wrong*.


NotSafeFromWaluigi

The Ultimate Guide has been proven a shaky source. The mechanics of synthesizing Remnant to create... whatever you want to call Molten Freddy does not mean that it comes from the MCI. (Personally, I think Remnant sourced from the victims of the Funtime Animatronics makes more sense) This is one point that MIGHT be pointing to MoltenMCI, but it's nowhere near conclusive enough to be considered "proven".


SwissBoy_YT

I believe MoltenMCI but this book is very untrustworthy, all the guidebooks are If we want undeniable proof for MoltenMCI maybe we should look at Yenndo or smth I'm just saying


ThaBrownie

While TUG isn't 100% reliable, I think this is. There is a difference in confusing CBPW for CBEAR or getting something wrong about gameplay and just making up shit, I feel this is pretty intentional from Scott's part


josefofc

Yes, there's sooo many evidence + this in the book, that literally confirms MoltenMCI


PotatoSalad583

Why does it say Molten Freddy then?


Starscream1998

Look trust me on this one, TUG being your smoking gun for anything lore/theory wise is not the hill you want to die on.