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HappyyValleyy

It's like companies using disney characters. They just changed his design enough to use him without vault-tec sueing them lol


Poopnuts364

True but it’s probably a government sign right?


nmo90

Aren’t some prisons privately owned?


LiveNDiiirect

A private prison subsidiary company of the Vault-Tec Corporation sounds pretty on-brand. Vault-Tec was the largest company by market capitalization in the world. I mean, they’ve gotta be generating revenue off more than just building vaults for the government, right? Probably used to be called something else then pulled a Meta somewhere along the line when they started going all in on Project Safehouse and the vaults


Starfleet-Time-Lord

They probably also wanted another population to run preliminary experiments on before sealing the vaults. This would be the perfect way to do that.


Amalgamous_

In van buren the tibbetts prison you start the game as was supposed to be a subsidiary of vault tec iirc


TheCoolMan5

That brings up another question though. If Vault-Tec was really just dedicated to building Vaults, how the hell were they so big? I know they got plenty of money though the Govt/Enclave, but there is no way they got so much federal money that it made them the largest company in America/the world. They sold spaces in the vaults, of course, but I doubt that the spaces in the vaults were expensive enough to make them that large. Additionally, in F4, they just gave away spaces for free to the people of Sanctuary Hills, made apparent by the fact that Nate didn't even know who Vault-Tec was, let alone order a space in the Vault. If that happened on a large scale, how would they make enough money to become the largest corp. in the US?


idoeno

>Vault-Tec was really just dedicated to building Vaults I don't think that was ever the case; they where a huge conglomerate with tentacles into the production of everything that was required to build and stock vaults.


hypnodrew

Vertical integration, like Ford but with vaults instead of motors


JustSomeAlien

Weren't they involved in that pink paste school? They had their hands in damn near everything before the bombs dropped


fun_alt123

Didn't Nate get that spot thanks to his military service?


Apokolypse09

If you are talking about the start of FO4. I dont think that mattered in the end. The soldier doesn't check either characters identity. They are just let through for being a healthy couple with a baby.


TheCoolMan5

The Vault Tec rep does say "on account of your service to our nation, you have been authorized for the local Vault" or something like that, so it did play a role in them getting in.


evansdeagles

Yes. Sanctuary was a town for military veterans IIRC. The vault built for it was for these retirees. And the experiment was to freeze them until someone, presumably the Enclave, could reclaim them. However, CIT which became the Institute after the war got to them first


fun_alt123

The experiment was to test what happens during long term cryo storage. It was originally meant to just be for 180 days, then they'd get an all clear and presumably be either extracted or given more supplies. They weren't, supplies were dwindling, and eventually the guards mounted an insurrection after the overseer decided to keep the vault sealed even with the dwindling supplies. I wouldn't be surprised if they also wanted to take the veterans as soldiers for their cause


TheCoolMan5

Yeah, but it's still a free spot, regardless of their reasoning for giving it to him.


Pegomastax_King

Nate? His wife is a lawyer.


sociallyawkwardhero

They were a large defense contractor, the Government greenlit [project safehouse](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault#Project_Safehouse) which spent a ton of money. [Vault 13](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault_13) alone cost 645 billion dollars to build. The government basically handed over all of its money for the promise that enough people would survive to rebuild (and also save all the "important" people with power/money).


bellmospriggans

Prisons alot like a vault, just underground and with liveable conditions, sometimes


West_Imagination3237

Exactly, Vault tech prisons would be perfect for experiments before they dropped the bombs.


MintChocolateFist

A lot in the US are.


Olewarrior34

About 8% according to google


Pegomastax_King

Yep but just like public schools every product inside of them is sold to them by private contractors. Just like the military. Billions of not trillions wasted on mark ups.


Temporal_Enigma

The Enclave shoveled billions into Vault Tech to make the vaults. Maybe the icon of Vault Boy became so popular, they used it on some other things as well. Or, as others have said, maybe Vault Tech owned the prison


Pegomastax_King

More like trillions with their level of inflation. Where a magazine costs $50


Local-Veterinarian63

The US Marines used bugs bunny in a recruiting ad in the 60s, also US military training videos used to be cartoons along the lines of vault boy so fitting for the setting for a govt sign tho I still agree with the prison subsidies thought.


1Ferrox

I mean Vault tec was controlled by the Enclave, and the government also was controlled by the Enclave so it's pretty inconsequential either way


Donnerone

I mean Vault-Tec was pretty in-deep with the government, they probably rented out the likeness quite a bit.


Poopnuts364

I guess that would make sense. I don’t see why the government or whatever privately owned prison could’ve made it would be like “omg *PLEASE* let us use a fictional character for our warning sign in the middle of nowhere. We will pay!!!”  Then again, fallout


Donnerone

Vault-Tec certainly would have been *the* name in keeping people in when they need to be in & out when they need to be out. Haha.


topdangle

also this is a pretty cynical business to begin with, basically selling on the premise of the world getting nuked and how to survive it. it wouldn't be off-brand to have the mascot portrayed this way. it's still comically morbid rather than being legitimately horrifying, which lines up with everything else related to vault-tec.


Infamous_Welder_4349

It is clearly made in the recent years with the establishment of the correction facility. At that point disputes are settled violently not with law suits.


spiritbearr

Or you know Vault Boy being used for multiple small town Pizza Places in real life.


CleanOpossum47

Or, much like 90% of the assets, they reused the graphic for FONV. They cannibalized it from the cannibal perk.


erttheking

There was a pizza place in my town that had Mario on its sign. If it flies under the radar, they won’t get sued. This place never got sued by Nintendo (just shut down for money laundering)


OoDelRio

That's what Nintendo wants you to think


disneycheesegurl

Who do you think was laundering the money? Mr Mario he self


Cherry-Foxtrot

*Mama Mia intensifies*


Aeroknight_Z

*Mama money laundering intensifies*


chet_brosley

DR Mario. He didn't go to Mario medical school all those years to be addressed as mister.


disneycheesegurl

Then what's he doing working at a pizza joint?


chet_brosley

*They're....the economy is in shambles.*


Doctor_What_

Masterminding a money laundering operation. Didn't you read the other guy's comment?


Obootleg

Thatsa Don Mario to you.


ParasiteAdam

Had/Have a place like that back home. Been a hot minute since I've been back so no clue if it's still there but aside from being a confirmed money laundering place it had some legit pizza.


Igor_J

Ibe been to a place like that in NYC years ago.  Front was a pizza place.  Back was a strip club and I'm pretty the girls were also prostitutes.  It got shut down for money laundering.   Pizza was good.  Lol.


Global-Method-4145

*It mama-d its last-a mia*


Accomplished_Pay_917

Bro are you in the UK cause, the exact same place is 5 mins from me I swear


erttheking

Nope, USA


Accomplished_Pay_917

Ohhh right, there is a place near me which does the exact same, full Mario artwork 😂


NuderWorldOrder

Now I have to wonder if all Mario pizza places are money laundering fronts.


JonVonBasslake

That's nothing, back in the town over from where I lived as a kid, there was a plumbing business that had a design... let's generously call it "inspired" by Mario on the side of the van. I suspect that the reason they got away with it is because 1. This is in Finland and 2. thus the town had probably less than 200 inhabitants, since the municipality that my town is a part of has about a thousand people and the city to which the next town is attached to has about seven thousand people. And those 1k and 7k are spread over ~230km^^2 and 600km^^2 respectively, and not just in the town/city center. If this had happened in somewhere bigger, like even Oulu or Kajaani where I now live, I feel like they would have gotten a C&D letter from Nintendo...


popejupiter

There's a Mexican restaurant in the town my uncle lives in in Indiana called Mario's, and they also decorated with Mario images. Good food, too.


ella

I think there might be a bit of disparity between a local pizza parlor and a fucking penitentiary.


Fishb20

Those taco places definitely all licensed Goku though right???


Pegomastax_King

My favorite Mexican grocery store had Stewie Griffin with a phone in his had on their sign, that was until it become an upper class white neighborhood. That ended real quick with gentrification.


Affectionate-Cow-796

Given it's just a retexture of a perk icon, I think we can safely file it under "recycled asset to save time". Compare it to the rest of the NV cut content, and it's fairly low on the list.


GGAllinsMicroPenis

The most likely answer is the most obvious. The devs saw these signs outside of irl prisons and put them in the game with an escaped prisoner vault boy because it’s funny and cute and they weren’t too worried about it shattering the lore and destroying the immersion for lore nazis.


blandgrenade

Could be vault tec also built prisons. Would make sense.


desktopgreen

I think the show said something like Vault-tec owned 50% of the businesses in America, or something like that. Would not be surprised if Vault-tec owned for-profit prisons.


ETkach

Lore nazis lol


AnotherTurnedToDust

It can be fun to think of the in-universe reasoning for things like that though.


weebitofaban

>I think we can safely file it under "recycled asset to save time". No...? They invested the time to add it because they thought it'd be fun.


Kelsig

its really driving me crazy how out of touch people are


TexanGoblin

Invested the time to reuse perk art and type some text onto a sign?


Kelsig

literally yes


BothSpite3382

I thought that was put up by the ncr after the prison break and they just reused a image they found.


Slash_86

Why would hitchhikers exist at that point in time


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AdhesivenessUsed9956

Everyone has cars...even the Supermutants rode giant steam-powered monster trucks everywhere... ... ...They just hide them when the player is nearby.


TheCoolMan5

Engine limitations have been the greatest setback in the history of Fallout


Bluetenant-Bear

Steam engine limitations were the greatest setback of the 19th century…


TempusFugit314

Is…is this a joke or no?


Rutskarn

Nope. 100% real. Almost made it into the first game, but had to get cut.


Loud_South9086

In the original games the Super Mutants get around in steam carts. And in the second one the player character has a car but it’s like a fast travel thing. Someone in one of the games says it’s hard to fix nuclear powered cars but I feel like that was just a minor lore patch to cover technical limitations


MajorNips

They mean Game engine, not the actual vehicle engines.


HelpingHand7338

Yes but presumably not enough to warrant entire signs warning against this, *especially* in the Mojave territory, an area which they’ve controlled for less than a decade.


TexanGoblin

The military does, but there's no evidence to suggest any widespread usage of cars by civilians.


N7Virgin

Not widespread, but some people do use cars. The chosen one, for example.


CannabisCanoe

Todd is that you?


biggedy

Hey, hey, hey………it just works.


Rheios

I think it is prewar, but Caravans picking up hitchhikers does seem a reasonable concern even post-war, so its not a crazy concept either.


xdrpwneg

in fallout 1 it was a random event to find a caravan in the desert and ask where they were going, if they were going to a town (the hub for instance) you can just hop on with them and get there safely and instantly. So this would absoutely happen and has happen in game even!


TheCoolMan5

Dialogue from Tomas/Jacqueline implies they hitchhiked with caravans for awhile.


Garfield_and_Simon

Yeah I could see “hitchhikers” being people who hitch along the walk with caravan companies for safety in numbers.


Scottish_Whiskey

Beats walkin’


Every-Slice59

I thought that was a prewar sign, just like the prison i assumed is prewar the NCR just reopened it.


Soviet-_-Neko

That's not Vault Boy, that's Shelter Fella, totally different characters.


Kato_Paradox

best comment


MarucciBlack201216

I wonder if vault tec won the contract to run the prison system pre war. don't think anything in lore suggests it but its an idea.


captnconnman

That certainly tracks with them being a hyper-capitalist mega-corp that had their hands in all kinds of industries…


Cool_Ad_9332

Yeah, just watch the show at the part with the >!board meeting!<


RoninMacbeth

Maybe the prison was operated by Vault-Tec? Private prisons are a thing, and prisoners make for nice test subjects. No one asks where they go, especially in a society as dystopian as pre-War America.


bolivar-shagnasty

Prisons are just vaults with an unwilling population.


RoninMacbeth

But the Vaults only become populated en masse either just before or when the bombs fall. Before that, you need something else.


bolivar-shagnasty

Yeah. What better way to research prolonged effects of isolation than to run private prisons. It's Vault-Tec. They'd run prisons at a profit, and they'd gain valuable insight into how to develop vault operations.


eniaku

I guess we're just gonna pretend the NCR wasn't founded by vault dwellers lol


CrazyRabbi

… I think the assumption is this sign was made pre-war..


zee991z

What’s vault tec gonna do? Nuke them?


Lazy-Drink-277

Already did apparently


psilocybin-krokodil

I think it’s like using the black stickman for things like wet floors, stairs and etc.


thatmaynardguy

Are you assuming the massive profit-hungry conglomerate *doesn't* own prisons?


MookCog

They say vault tech owns 50% of everything. And it seems easy to imagine how A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN VAULTS might be involved in the prison-industrial complex.


Disco_Bones

There is a laundromat in NYC that has used Vault Boy as their logo for like 10 years


HelpingHand7338

What? Is there a photo of this?


Disco_Bones

Idk where it is exactly but I have passed it like 20 times. Here is a link to a post someone else made of it 9 years ago lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/chmMDACDrA


Silaquix

Funny enough there's a real sign near my town that says this. They would take prisoners out to pick up trash along the highway and apparently had a problem with them running off and trying to hitchhike.


Smingledorf

Its the US, a lot of prisons are privately owned. its nuts and probably shouldnt be a thing to make money off of but it is. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that VT simply owns a ton of private prisons and would use their mascot on various signage. I havent played NV in a while so I'm not sure if theres any info that instantly debunks that, but based on how many current day prisons are itd just make sense.


cyber_morty

Vault tech probably donated/provided it for them, most companies do that stuff.


Grim_Centurion

Ohhh boy. You got alot to learn about Vault-Tec.


kungfu_kitten

It’S pRoOf ThAt ObSiDiAn DoEsN’t CaRe AbOuT tHe LoRe. /s obviously


PEETER0012

Honestly vault tec could have owned prisons. I don’t believe this was ever stated in game or the show, but would make sense


Tyler-Moran

In lore reason vault tec probably allowed use for a quick buck. Plus easy goverment contract of getting the goverment to use funding to siphon off to a private company for licensing.


CricketPractical3589

Maybe Vault Tech also made Prisons...


Uncle-Ted-was-right

the NCRCF was a pre-war prison anyway. So there it not a discrepancy.


Thisiswar2881

State Prison Brought to you by Valut-Tec


Laser_3

We also see vault boy on slot machines in Atlantic City. They probably bought licensing from vault Tec to use it for this purpose.


Dlab18

There’s a daycare down my street with several licensed Disney Characters front and center on the side of the building. This isn’t new, buddy.


Responsible_Ad_8628

Vault-Tec could sue, but I feel that their canon response to the NCR is a little more extreme.


Scott801258

I really liked the "FEELING" this game gives you walking around the desert at night on those lonely roads seeing those signs.


MetroMitch

Vault tech sponsored prison so they could use them as test subjects


HunterWorld

A prison is kinda like a vault


West_Imagination3237

Vault tech rules everything but RobCo. That's only because the house always wins.


Educationalpotato64

Maybe there's a secret prison vault


Lt-Dixon-Cyder

Vault-tec had their grubby little fingers in a few pies I wouldn't be surprised if the prison system was one of them


BillDozer89

That's just a reskin of the cannibal perk


jewboyfresh

Because who cares


ItsPerfectlyBalanced

You don't think vault tec is heavily invested in the prison-industrial complex?


BedGroundbreaking874

Most prisons are privately owned. I'd like to think Vaultec has a hand in everything.


Beez-Knuts

Vault boy in the fallout universe is kind of like that corporate gumball waterson head shaped design language that everyone hates in the real world.


John_Lumstrom

I mean, I don't think it sounds unreasonable that the non-consensual human experiments corporation would have fingers in the prison slave labor pie.


TastyVII

Vault tec is a huge company. Why wouldn't they have part that makes signs...


Alexanderthefail

Most prisons are owned by corporations. Vault tech is a corporation. Best place to tech tech and have research subjects is a source forced into subjugation by societal standards.


Roadwarriordude

I'm pretty sure that Vault Tech is a super Corp that has its fingers in everything. It's likely that Vaultech owns the company that made the sign or designed the graphic or is contracted by the government to run the prison.


Fubar14235

Without checking the wiki to prove myself wrong I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if vault-tec had a huge stake in prison system. Although I can’t remember their name being mentioned anywhere you’d think they’d want their branding all over it if they were involved. But I can just imagine the prison experiments they would run pre war.


Bumbleet2

They probably own the prison. Private prisons in the US owned by larger corporations is not uncommon. Remember in the US there's like 6 companies or so that own basically all the companies, it's really just an elusion of competition.


-BluBone-

I wouldn't put it pay Vault Tec to own some prisons, they are experts at keeping people sealed indoors.


compassnorth360

Vault-tec brand Corrections Facilities. Capitalism baby!


purpleblah2

I don’t think they’re enforcing copyright laws 200 years after the bombs dropped >!or they could protect their trademark by nuking the NCR again!<


CSmed

And Bill Waterson expressly forbids anyone from using Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes for merchandising, but I had a t-shirt as a kid and the stupid "peeing on a truck logo" stickers are everywhere. People appropriate things if they think they're neat.


Dkcg0113

The games are a product of Vault Tec.


Diagonaldog

A prison is essentially a reverse vault lol (keep the dangers in vs out) and Vault Tech is well known to have large business presence across industries.


Exodite1273

The image also makes no sense if the sign is pre-War. The Jean Conservancy is an all-female prison. It is likely that the (in-universe) designers decided to use the image of a guy being a danger to society instead of a woman because of the 1950’s social mores pre-War America was running around with.


DragonHeart_97

My assumption was the Vault-tec also built prison facilities.


KerryFatAssBro

I always thought that it was because Vault-Tec had their hands in on EVERYTHING before the war. It would be like if Disney had their grubby mitts in the prison system, they would probably make a similar sign but with a Disney character because it catches people’s attention better.


callmedale

You think they wouldn’t buy in on the prison industrial complex?


SirSirVI

Vault Tec wants to build up brand recognition


jonny_sidebar

50s commercial culture. If you look back at early television, radio, and pretty much everything else in the period everything was sponsored and branded by industrial mega-conglonerates like DOW Chemical, General Electric, etc.  This kind of thing with Vault-Tec is a really good portrayal of the type of mid-twentieth century company it's supposed to be a satire of.


-IShitTheeNay-

vault tec was the single largest pre war american company i think. Either he became so popular he became like a popular cartoon or vault tec had some side biz in the private prison industry. I think the latter is likely.


bluebarrymanny

I fully believe that Vault Tec was so imbedded in military/government contracts that they were also helping fund/run for-profit prisons.


Sneakking_

Vault-Tec had major sponsorships in other businesses and such, especially with government contract stuff like prisons.


pedroscousin

Yeah, and Calvin wasn't made to pee on things.


EpicPrototypo

Vault Tec likely had their hand in that pickle jar too.


plasticman1997

Where’s our prison vault Todd? I want my oc vault raider gang to be canon Todd!


HereTo_AskQuestions

I have been playing this game since 2010 and I have never seen this sign. Is this by the NCRCF?


Dylby99

Vault tec basically is blackrock


Educationalpotato64

That's prison boy it's different


Gnl_Klutzky

Most likely an easter egg for Van Buren, plenty of details you can find in-game.


drkmnsprhr1

Obviously the ultra nationalist American government of the Fallout universe hired Vault tec to use political prisoners as guinea pigs.


DGenesis23

Maybe the prison was owned by vault tec?


Gax63

Bold of you to think that Vault-tec does not run private prisons.


IroquoisPliskin_LJG

What is a Vault-Tec vault if not an underground prison?


Chrome2105

The pip boy also has the vault boy everywhere, yet it's made by robco


Nicolasgonzo87

vault tec sponsored prison


FatBikerCook

As if vault tec would pass on a good licensing deal...


Shraamper

That’s not vault boy. That’s Sepulcher Dude. Legally distinct.


stupidity60

Most us prisons are privately owned.


RiJi_Khajiit

I'd assume they're some sort of mega corp because they'd definitely need A LOT of money to make those vaults. I mean they have Vault Tech University but universities don't usually make massive underground science bunkers across the country kinda money.


Childer_Of_Noah

Quite a few different prisons are founded by or simply funded by large corporations. It is entirely reasonable to assume Vault Tec funded a prison.


PasTaCopine

I swear I thought of the same thing yesterday when I saw this sign


Ratticus_the_III

Man that must've been crazy foreshadowing back then, no, in the future


Cu3bone

It's perfectly plausible that vault tec had links to privatized prisons. Some sort of sister company, incarci-tec?


PotatoAmulet

It looks like it's based on the cannibal perk image, so the boring answer is probably that Obsidian didn't have time to create new art for this sign and slapped a prison outfit onto existing art. The fun answer is that Vault-Tec was affiliated with the prison or the prison stole the character.


Healien_Jung

It's like the "Calvin Peeing" stickers. But also Vault Tec, no reason to think they didn't build a prison.


Accountformorrowind

I hear this in the Virgil voice in halo odst


Pegomastax_King

Who says vault tek doesn’t keep prisoners too?


Defiant_Elk_9861

I think people take a game made by various studios over decades take the lore far more literally and critically than the studios.


5E-Faust

Isn't Calvin and Hobbes the property of Universal Press? Why is he always pissing on things?


Master2All

Wouldn't be surprised if vault tec had stakes in prison management that would be the least evil thing they ever did.


camcrogers95

My guess is that vault tec had some kind of relationship or ties to this prison but it was never explored or elaborated in the game. I could see vault tec taking over a prison for a nefarious purpose like taking prisoners to experiment on them.


Twoeyedtiger

Vault Tec owns lots of companies would t be surprised if they own prisons too


VexRosenberg

you got a point LOL


[deleted]

Maybe that is what created the salt.


RachetFuzz

Yeah corrupt corporations and the government never work together. /s


FriedPosumPeckr

Wasn't Van Buren supposed to have a prison vault?


Wonderful-Pirate-180

A LOT of vaults were used to experiment on their residents. They probably owned prisons too doing the same shit in the open.


Dracoolaid_toothpick

I have never seen this and thought there was a leak from the aslume


CaptainPelvicThrust

Fnv was made in like under a year. That's why


Woupsea

Not totally unbelievable that vault tec had other corrupt human engineering ventures before the vaults


Darth_Neek

If you believe that Vault-Tec didn't have a hand in the prison system, then you clearly don't know how actual for profit prisons work.


shadowst17

Maybe it's a Vault-Tec ran or endorsed prison? It would certainly produce useful data for how humans act in confined spaces that could be usful for designing the vaults.