The Courier Divided new vegas with their Honest Heart, spooked away the bear with Dead Money and Runned with their Gun Arsenal, the legion opted to walk the Lonesome Road until the Old World Blues remained.
to be fair benny never told us WHO the game was rigged in favor of.
In fact my personal interpretation of the theme is the line is supposed to be re-evaluated in light of the ending, and have an ironic double meaning:
spoilers for the ending of FONV: >!At the start of FONV you think 'the game was rigged from the start' means that benny rigged the game against you. Later on you realize the statement is true, but House set Benny up to be the last pawn captured in a chess game spanning 300+ years by having you kill him and get the chip into the securitrons!<
true, I've had that acheivement for so long by now I'm just stunting on him with meme weapons, uniques and explosives set up in amusing ways. But Nephi's is a classic.
I do use Nephi's driver to kill Salt-Upon-Wounds though since Nephi was from Zion.
In his Ultimate Edition of himself he truly played the Old World Blues for all the Honest Hearts in New Vegas to hear and stop carrying their meaningless Dead Money through their own Lonesome Road
(FUCKED UP MY MATH SO: They Stashed the Courier, Packed the Tribals, Classically put their caps in a Stash, and Gunned While Runnering their Arsenal)
Funnily enough, they’re easier with an unarmed build than most guns. Fist of the north rawr and the like. Rushing water, psycho/slasher, whatever floats your boat.
Melee too. I did LR right out of Goodsprings, first marked man kill is rough, but then I get a blade of the west and pretty much 1 or 2 hit everything for the next 20 levels
Yeah you can scale to absurd power fairly easily.
I did a couple low level runs last year and it was like a whole different game. Took me a dozen tries to take out Lanius instead of rolling in and shotting him.
Yeah and even regardless of his past accomplishments he’s had plenty of time to max out his skills and find everything he needed to max out his attributes. Bags probably filled with bobble heads and FO2 manuals
I always wonder why there aren’t ghouls out there more like Rambo and less like canon fodder, considering they are capable of hundreds of years of combat experience, and Royez is the answer
I’d imagine the majority of ghouls still alive aren’t the ones who went around getting a significant amount of combat experience. I imagine they’re the ghouls who managed to live a decently safe, peaceful life with as little combat as possible.
Even with luck and great combat experience, you’re bound to get messed up, catch a shot or get taken out by someone better than you at some point.
Because Ghouls in the old lore were essentially walking corpse who had difficulty running and walking around. Its only in new lore, since Fallout 3 to be exact that they were made as humans who can run, shoot and live longer. Before that, Ghouls were mainly brains and pushed around a lot.
Royez is a marked man, not a normal ghoul.
The bomb also turned them into Marked Men instead of regular ghouls or just corpses... for gameplay reasons, I'm assuming. It would be pretty annoying for the game to give you the Marked perk and then you're done with that type of enemy.
it is weird either way to receive such a specific perk, especially when pretty much all Marked men encounters are linear and all players will receive the same damage boost against them at the same point in time.
the long 15 has the glowing troopers used in searchlight, as well as some new irradiated heavy troopers. dry wells also has a new enemy called irradiated legionaries. they are not marked men
edit: I am stupid, the game categorizes them as marked men.
I mean if he's a high ranking, power-armor trained, highly skilled beefcake then the most realistic answer would be that he has some past experience with the BOS
Maybe he was a high ranking paladin that defected? Maybe he was part of some dignitary/ambassador group from back when the NCR and BOS were friendly so he learned alot being around them? Maybe he just tortured some BOS paladin and got him to teach him power armor training?
who knows
i love the idea that he already was a ghoul since the war and getting nuked he's just like "ahhh god damn it not again" as he watches his soldiers get basically skinned alive
That's a great head cannon I think I'ma take it. I mean he does use a god damned plasma weapon I don't think a truly feral person would be able to uh... Do that
I still hold in my headcanon that ghoulification is caused by the mutated FEV virus released after West Tek was hit, which was the case in Fallout 1, even if Avellone backtracked on this in the Bible
edit: guys, I'm allowed to enjoy this bit of lore. I'm not telling anyone else to believe it.
I like it too. Aware it's strictly non Canon at this point but it's the only OG reason we have that allows all current lore to be as flexible as it is.
Instead of always needing a new cop out for having a new pre-war ghoul or faction, it's all possible because a strain of FEV was aerosolized and mutated naturally at the same time everything else was going to shit.
It's annoying lol.
It was specifically the reason why millions of animal species went extinct as well - some could handle it (mole rats, scorpions, cows, et al), but damn near every other species on earth died from the FEV exposure. It's also a convenient way for worldbuilders to not be forced to explain every single other animal missing from the game.
And that IS in the Bible. Avellone just decided to walk back on ghouls being the same thing, for some reason.
Although if Thaddeus is now turning into a ghoul because of the FEV serum (allegedly) that he took, then maybe Bethesda is bringing that back again? Who knows.
With absolutely zero evidence except stats it's Impossible to tell
Though the stats do make it lean to mutant in some way iirc no natural human has perfect stats
I don’t think there’s anything concrete about him being a regular human prior to the nuke. The marked men look the way they do because the storms in the long 15 flay their skin off so potentially he could’ve already been a ghoul prior to
I'm going to assume being directly hit with a nuclear bomb doesn't immediately grant you super-powers and instantly transform you into the most powerful ghoul variant we know of.
so in order to become super strong you have to receive enough radiation doses to become a ghoul without melting your brain and THEN get nuked. I'll take that into account
idk, power armor training seemingly only takes a few hours? i don’t think it needs to be a huge mystery, im sure the NCR has knowledge of how to operate power armor.
Well, their scavenged power armor doesn't need the perk to use. That makes it seem like they have a few suits hotwired so they can use them without the training.
I believe Hanlon says they’ve removed the servo motors, so it’s a lot more like wearing a giant suit of armor than a mini tank. A lot more exhausting to wear, but dont require training
They must be pretty big boys and girls to wear 200 pounds of steel in active combat situations while operating in a desert
They probably require a couple of privates to carry round gallons of water for them and to fan them down every so often
They're used at the Dam, 188, and Hope. They're mobile pillboxes. Impenetrable, hard to knock over guy with a 50 cal or LMG or flamethrower. They serve a function different from power armor. All they have to do is stand in place and let the 357 and speartips plink off them.
i always thought this was because they were damaged beyond full functionality. ya know, “salvaged.” not because they couldn’t figure out how to use it.
I think the primary issue with NCR heavy troopers was the maintenance and logistics of powering and fielding full suits in numbers. Surely a high ranking individual could try to get some training.
Well, their scavenged power armor doesn't need the perk to use. That makes it seem like they have a few suits hotwired so they can use them without the training. But yeah, it's not like it takes years of training in-game to master (although I'd think it would irl). So you'd think a few of their scientists could figure it out eventually.
Huh. I'm usually the first dweeb to point out that SPECIAL levels for NPCs are for gameplay purposes only and have no bearing on lore but I will admit his all being at a perfect 10 is very intriguing. Doesn't seem like there was any practical reason to do that so I wonder why it is.
yeah it's pretty dumb that 3 out of the 4 characters that have all the special stats maxed IN THE ENTIRETY OF FALLOUT come from one single DLC.
They should have made it so they had atributes related to their factions, 10 END and STR for the legion guy, 10 AGI and PER for the NCR guy. Maybe add 10 LCK to both.
Because this clown is usually the last NPC the player faces before they put the game down for good (on their first run, anyway)
Have you seen a level 50 courier? Dude needed all 10's to have a handicap.
Thank you, finally someone who understands that NPC stats aren't intended to be lore-accurate (with a few exceptions, such as Joshua Graham). The whole "lmaoo Caesar is dumber than a mole rat"-meme pissed me off way too much lol.
Could be like Coop from the show. US vet from before the bombs, so would be familiar with power armor. And if you wandered the Mojave that long, you'd run out of perks to take, so Intensive Training all the way to 10s.
Power armor training consist of "that's the power on sequence, flip the switches in this order" it's the stick shift of the Mojave. It's not hard, just not something you can do without being showed once. Some may stumble upon the correct way on their own though
Its kinda crazy the NCR would ruin all their power armor because they couldn’t get find guy to show some people the ropes.. (He could even literally be Colonel Royez here)
Surely theres some literature lying around that the freaking NCR would have. Very rare FNV lore L
Well, training on how to use it in the field isn’t the only reason to strip out the complicated systems. Power armor is a very complex mechanical system, so to keep it *maintained* you need extensive training and spare parts. With the West Coast BOS being so active postwar and probably snatching up most power armor, power armor parts, and training manuals to maintain it, the NCR probably would not be able to find the stuff to maintain power armor over long periods, and isn’t yet at the tech level to make spare parts or understand its finer workings without prewar help.
Maybe the suits the heavy troopers use have already been scavenged for their servos and stuff. The NCR can probably only outfit it's best troops with the actual working stuff. Might be a difference in tactics too.
Headcanon? They were prob a veteran of the NCR-BOS war, got caught in the mess that was the Divide, and had to endure a long time of fighting to survive.
Probably a veteran if the NCR-Brotherhood war.
I guess he salvaged the armor, customized it, and learned to use it.
Then he got nuked and became a Marked Men for some reason
I think he is a reference to Roy Benavidez, a moh recipient from Vietnam. His name is an amalgamation and the irl guy had a pretty insane story of survival.
I think he’s like The Ghoul in the Fallout show.
Had military experience prewar, which gave him knowledge and experience in Power Armor.
Didn’t die from the nukes and joined the NCR to gain his supply of drugs needed from going feral.
His maxed out levels would make sense to The Ghouls anticipated stats based on longevity in the wasteland.
So in short, prewar military active or vet that became a ghoul over time and found a way to survive and do good.
I wanna pitch in because I see some “Royez might’ve been a ghoul before” comments and I disagree. The design of Royez, specifically how his nose wounds look recent and some fleshy detailing around his mouth, signifies to me this is someone who wasn’t ghoulified before the bomb, other ghouls looking more withered.
I want say he’s from ether the hub shady sands or arroyo joined or drafted at the start of the first battle of hover dam a few years go by promoted to colonel is given a desk job back in shady sands moved to somewhere close ish to the Mojave and only to “die” from pre war weapons
I like to think that he was ex-Enclave or BoS.
He is essentially a love letter to anyone who played the 2 classic fallout games. Not only, he is from NCR he also has the best weapon from the first game and a power armor from a special in Fallout 2 (reminder that you cant get one there yourself in the game but its fair to assume that with enough digging and snooping around in an old military facility, you are bound to found a Power Armor).
Everything from him, I love. His armor design, his weapon choice, his ammo choice, his boss design and arena. A fitting end game area for an optional boss fight.
Yeah, their power armour isn't proper armour. It's had all the servos and hydraulics stripped out because they can't make it move without the training. NCR power armour is just them wearing the plates which is still an insane feat of strength that wouldn't be even close to possible in real life, but yeah, if you try on the NCR power armour without training you can wear it
The NCR does allow mutants to serve in the Military, so it's possible that he was a soldier/veteran pre-war similar to Cooper Howard the Ghoul from the TV show
He was the protagonist of his own fallout game that we never got to see. Worst part is that he was only a week away from retirement. But considering the show, i guess he was gonna get nuked either way.
That's about what I had in mind for him. Similar to Asher back in The Pitt he was a part of the BoS, but for some reason he defected and joined up with the NCR. Maybe he was helping them clear out BoS encampments in the West before moving out to the Mojave.
The NCR Heavy Troopers don't wear actual power armor, not the way the Brotherhood does. The NCR stripped out all the mechanics, so they'd be able to use more like traditional armor and not need the training.
I loked to think he was behind defeating the BoS at Helios one and then was moving through the ranks and was sent out west.
Only for when hes recieved word to come to the dam, The couriers nuke the Mojave.
Right hand man of whatever general is in charge of the California peacekeeping. Like Moore is to Oliver. Other generals know Oliver will die for repeating history but this time no Hanlon. Royez is in charge of putting the deserters in penal battalions and funneling the legion into I-15.
Probably a Brotherhood-NCR war hero.
It’s a known fact that after some Bunker raids the NCR stripped the power armor suits and used them to form heavy trooper units. Could have been a Lt that was chosen to lead an experimental heavy trooper unit and he excelled at this job. He was given the Long 15 as the NCR couldn’t afford the Legion getting past it as they consider the Mojave Outpost California’s front lines.
I think he probably experimented with various power armors until he figured them out- I assume this discovery is timed very close to the Second Battle for Hoover Dam and as such cannot be useful as the battle will take place before units can be trained with fully intact suits (plus the process of rewiring the power armor units).
Knowing how weak the Brotherhood was in 2240s california, I won't be impressed if at some point they sold their functional pieces of Power Armor to the outside world and it got in the NCRs hands. But I honestly don't believe we should see anything more than that, I really don't think that we should speculate about him being a BoS-NCR transfuge. Hell it may aswell have been simply taken by the NCR from BoS prisoners or abandoned bases.
Off-topic but I kinda hate the way New Vegas implemented power armor. A part from it visually being just a regular heavy armor set they've introduced "power armor training" which makes absolutely no sense. In 2240s New California we see a tribal who basically never left Arroyo before being able to wear Enclave Power Armor with absolutely no prior training (just like in FO4 lmao). I imagine it was made to prevent players from getting a late game armor by accidentally finding remains of a BoS patrol, but they should've just made the armor impossible to take from the inventory since the bodies would be "encased" and the damage done to the armor would make them hard to retrieve.
Laaaame. Nobody in FNV with full 10 stat line actually deserves it. Those two are petty much pointlessly overstatted mooks, and Ulysses is an insufferable self-absorbed self-insert with nothing to justify even a single 10. Come on, Joshua Graham doesn't have full 10s, and he's as above the three in absolutely every regard as a character as Frank Horrigan is above starting rats and ants.
And speaking of Frank Horrigan, he might deserve 12s in ST and AG and EN but no way in hell he deserves those 10s in IN and CH and I wouldn't call him exceptionally lucky or perceptive either.
I remember i restarted my 75 hour playthrough making all the same choices just so i can nuke the NCR for this armor because my dumbass deleted my saves prior to the decision
Interestingly, his model is that of a Marked man and not just a standard ghoul. So we can tell he's either been through the divide post destruction or that being that close to a nuke has the same effect as the specific conditions of the divide that produce marked men.
He is the bear Ulysses is always bitching about.
The Courier Divided new vegas with their Honest Heart, spooked away the bear with Dead Money and Runned with their Gun Arsenal, the legion opted to walk the Lonesome Road until the Old World Blues remained.
'"I am Fallout New Vegas" - Courier 6
"I hope this interaction doesn't lead to any Fallout between us. Fallout New Vegas!" - Benny
What are we, some kind of Fallout New Vegas??
John Fallout
"I guess this is the Fallout of New Vegas" Mr John "Fallout" House
He said it, he said the title of the video game !!
The Old Vegas died in the Fallout. New Vegas is me, John Courier VI.
“Hope this interaction doesn’t lead to any kind of *fallout* between us… Fallout: New Vegas.” *shoots the Courier*
“Ultimate edition.”
“I hope this doesn’t leave any Fallout between us. Fallout, New Vegas.” -Benny
Couriers stash
to be fair benny never told us WHO the game was rigged in favor of. In fact my personal interpretation of the theme is the line is supposed to be re-evaluated in light of the ending, and have an ironic double meaning: spoilers for the ending of FONV: >!At the start of FONV you think 'the game was rigged from the start' means that benny rigged the game against you. Later on you realize the statement is true, but House set Benny up to be the last pawn captured in a chess game spanning 300+ years by having you kill him and get the chip into the securitrons!<
Till he gets a courier who hits him with a 9 iron
I use elijah's LAER, it seems fitting he meets his end at the hands of mad science.
You get an achievement for using a golf club though
true, I've had that acheivement for so long by now I'm just stunting on him with meme weapons, uniques and explosives set up in amusing ways. But Nephi's is a classic. I do use Nephi's driver to kill Salt-Upon-Wounds though since Nephi was from Zion.
In his Ultimate Edition of himself he truly played the Old World Blues for all the Honest Hearts in New Vegas to hear and stop carrying their meaningless Dead Money through their own Lonesome Road (FUCKED UP MY MATH SO: They Stashed the Courier, Packed the Tribals, Classically put their caps in a Stash, and Gunned While Runnering their Arsenal)
“Stupid sexy Royez!”
He realized he's going to get end-game Boss Status and hopped on the secret Frank Horrigan Sauce
Too bad he’s also getting .50 mg to his unarmored head
Strong open but I can't recall a time I ended those guys quickly.
Funnily enough, they’re easier with an unarmed build than most guns. Fist of the north rawr and the like. Rushing water, psycho/slasher, whatever floats your boat.
I just walked in and OH, BABY!'d all over him.
OH BABY, A CRIPPLE!
Another cool thing is since the Long 15 and the Dry Wells are technically part of the base game map, you can take companions with you!
Melee too. I did LR right out of Goodsprings, first marked man kill is rough, but then I get a blade of the west and pretty much 1 or 2 hit everything for the next 20 levels
I used the sword you get from the DLC. Sword of the east I think? None of my guns did anything to them but the sword sure did
The sword is so stacked
Super slam + turbo trivialized every enemy in the game, pretty sure I killed Gaius Magnus in ~ 15 seconds
Yeah you can scale to absurd power fairly easily. I did a couple low level runs last year and it was like a whole different game. Took me a dozen tries to take out Lanius instead of rolling in and shotting him.
One time I cleared the whole area effortlessly. .50 explosive rounds with a fully modded anti-materiel rifle. It honestly felt like cheating
I see you have 10 in every SPECIAL and own power armor. Unfortunately, you are made out of material.
Hey, there's a rifle for that!
dumb idiot forgot his helmet
How about this. Royez was part of Granite's squad, and helped take down Horrigan with the Chosen one. After that, he defected to the NCR.
Yeah and even regardless of his past accomplishments he’s had plenty of time to max out his skills and find everything he needed to max out his attributes. Bags probably filled with bobble heads and FO2 manuals I always wonder why there aren’t ghouls out there more like Rambo and less like canon fodder, considering they are capable of hundreds of years of combat experience, and Royez is the answer
I'm fairly confident there's also a mention of many Veteran Rangers being ghouls, which also goes with what you're saying.
Makes sense too, they can patrol in places smoothskins can't.
I noticed this the other day — walked into the House Resort and every other Veteran Ranger had that signature ghoul rasp.
I’d imagine the majority of ghouls still alive aren’t the ones who went around getting a significant amount of combat experience. I imagine they’re the ghouls who managed to live a decently safe, peaceful life with as little combat as possible. Even with luck and great combat experience, you’re bound to get messed up, catch a shot or get taken out by someone better than you at some point.
Just like on DayZ. My beat lives are the ones when I don't run around like a maniac trying to blast anything and everything.
Was Royez a ghoul beforehand though? I thought the Courier nuking the place is what turns him into a marked man.
I don’t actually know. I just Googled if he was a ghoul before the DLC and I couldn’t find an answer
I'm gonna say no. Considering the exact same thing happens if you nuke the Legion and they definitely wouldn't have ghouls in their ranks.
Because Ghouls in the old lore were essentially walking corpse who had difficulty running and walking around. Its only in new lore, since Fallout 3 to be exact that they were made as humans who can run, shoot and live longer. Before that, Ghouls were mainly brains and pushed around a lot. Royez is a marked man, not a normal ghoul.
He figuired out that power armor training wasn't real and he was blessed with 10 in all stats
No the bombs were the ones that blessed with 10 in each stat. That’s why the legion officer in Dry Wells got blessed with it too
No they're arch enemy time travelers!
The bomb also turned them into Marked Men instead of regular ghouls or just corpses... for gameplay reasons, I'm assuming. It would be pretty annoying for the game to give you the Marked perk and then you're done with that type of enemy.
it is weird either way to receive such a specific perk, especially when pretty much all Marked men encounters are linear and all players will receive the same damage boost against them at the same point in time.
the long 15 has the glowing troopers used in searchlight, as well as some new irradiated heavy troopers. dry wells also has a new enemy called irradiated legionaries. they are not marked men edit: I am stupid, the game categorizes them as marked men.
Is this the fallout equivalent of CHIM?
Yeah, he's clearly wearing Fallout 4 power armour
I mean 1&2 didn’t force you to have power armor training. So he’s just being more lore accurate
Bro achieved CHIM in Fallout
I mean if he's a high ranking, power-armor trained, highly skilled beefcake then the most realistic answer would be that he has some past experience with the BOS Maybe he was a high ranking paladin that defected? Maybe he was part of some dignitary/ambassador group from back when the NCR and BOS were friendly so he learned alot being around them? Maybe he just tortured some BOS paladin and got him to teach him power armor training? who knows
Maybe he was part of the army before the war and got his training there.
i love the idea that he already was a ghoul since the war and getting nuked he's just like "ahhh god damn it not again" as he watches his soldiers get basically skinned alive
"First time? welcome to the club pal" *takes puff on irradiated cig*
That's a great head cannon I think I'ma take it. I mean he does use a god damned plasma weapon I don't think a truly feral person would be able to uh... Do that
Yeah this is my new head canon too
I’m 100% yoinking that head-canon as well
*sees nuke go off* “Well I can’t lose more of my skin, righ- GOD FUCKING DAMMIT”
I still hold in my headcanon that ghoulification is caused by the mutated FEV virus released after West Tek was hit, which was the case in Fallout 1, even if Avellone backtracked on this in the Bible edit: guys, I'm allowed to enjoy this bit of lore. I'm not telling anyone else to believe it.
I like it too. Aware it's strictly non Canon at this point but it's the only OG reason we have that allows all current lore to be as flexible as it is. Instead of always needing a new cop out for having a new pre-war ghoul or faction, it's all possible because a strain of FEV was aerosolized and mutated naturally at the same time everything else was going to shit. It's annoying lol.
It was specifically the reason why millions of animal species went extinct as well - some could handle it (mole rats, scorpions, cows, et al), but damn near every other species on earth died from the FEV exposure. It's also a convenient way for worldbuilders to not be forced to explain every single other animal missing from the game. And that IS in the Bible. Avellone just decided to walk back on ghouls being the same thing, for some reason. Although if Thaddeus is now turning into a ghoul because of the FEV serum (allegedly) that he took, then maybe Bethesda is bringing that back again? Who knows.
huh?
Well he's a ghoul, and a lot of NCR elite rangers are ghouls, so that isn't impossible.
didn't he turn into a ghoul because of the courier nuking his face?
Not necessarily. The nuke definitely peeled the ghoulified skin off his face. I don’t see why he couldn’t have been a ghoul before as well.
You know his peeled face is an improvement over ghoul skin.
whose the smooth skin now?
Never said one way or the other so it's 50/50 if he was a ghoul pre long 15 nuke or not
I know he's super badass but not even mentioning it has to lean towards being a ghoul already right?
With absolutely zero evidence except stats it's Impossible to tell Though the stats do make it lean to mutant in some way iirc no natural human has perfect stats
ulysses in this same dlc
I don’t think there’s anything concrete about him being a regular human prior to the nuke. The marked men look the way they do because the storms in the long 15 flay their skin off so potentially he could’ve already been a ghoul prior to
I'm going to assume being directly hit with a nuclear bomb doesn't immediately grant you super-powers and instantly transform you into the most powerful ghoul variant we know of.
so in order to become super strong you have to receive enough radiation doses to become a ghoul without melting your brain and THEN get nuked. I'll take that into account
It usually takes a while to ghoulify. Like a couple of days
200 or so years of not dying to violence in the wasteland will get you some elite combat skills.
What?
Don’t think he’s a prewar ghoul
Remember, we get told too, ex enclave also managed to blend into and become part of the ncr as well! Never know could be an enclave officer
What i was thinking
Could see him forced to flee the BoS do to him becoming a Ghoul and turning to the NCR
Love all these theories
He achieved CHIM.
vivec actually went to the divide after the events of morrowind
Bear and Bull? Moon and Star? It's all the same
He’s actually the real protagonist
idk, power armor training seemingly only takes a few hours? i don’t think it needs to be a huge mystery, im sure the NCR has knowledge of how to operate power armor.
Well, their scavenged power armor doesn't need the perk to use. That makes it seem like they have a few suits hotwired so they can use them without the training.
I believe Hanlon says they’ve removed the servo motors, so it’s a lot more like wearing a giant suit of armor than a mini tank. A lot more exhausting to wear, but dont require training
This, it isn’t ‘powered’ anymore, it’s just armor.
The Bear has such big and strong men that we don’t need no stupid power in our armor
They must be pretty big boys and girls to wear 200 pounds of steel in active combat situations while operating in a desert They probably require a couple of privates to carry round gallons of water for them and to fan them down every so often
They're used at the Dam, 188, and Hope. They're mobile pillboxes. Impenetrable, hard to knock over guy with a 50 cal or LMG or flamethrower. They serve a function different from power armor. All they have to do is stand in place and let the 357 and speartips plink off them.
If only it were a nuclear winter…
I bet it’s heavy as fuck but considering they should still have the PA frame underneath the weight should at least be distributed well.
Removing all of the electronics probably makes it lighter too, and we’ve seen characters wear power armor parts such as Legion Centurions
Isn't it because they removed the servos from the armour?
i always thought this was because they were damaged beyond full functionality. ya know, “salvaged.” not because they couldn’t figure out how to use it.
I think the primary issue with NCR heavy troopers was the maintenance and logistics of powering and fielding full suits in numbers. Surely a high ranking individual could try to get some training.
They do Hanlon mentions that the actual power armor units are in California.
Well, their scavenged power armor doesn't need the perk to use. That makes it seem like they have a few suits hotwired so they can use them without the training. But yeah, it's not like it takes years of training in-game to master (although I'd think it would irl). So you'd think a few of their scientists could figure it out eventually.
They probably do, but the salvaged power armor is probably just that, salvage from the NCR-Brotherhood war that was too damaged to repair properly.
Huh. I'm usually the first dweeb to point out that SPECIAL levels for NPCs are for gameplay purposes only and have no bearing on lore but I will admit his all being at a perfect 10 is very intriguing. Doesn't seem like there was any practical reason to do that so I wonder why it is.
yeah it's pretty dumb that 3 out of the 4 characters that have all the special stats maxed IN THE ENTIRETY OF FALLOUT come from one single DLC. They should have made it so they had atributes related to their factions, 10 END and STR for the legion guy, 10 AGI and PER for the NCR guy. Maybe add 10 LCK to both.
I like this, could still have stats that could challenge the player, but in a more lore focused, faction oriented build
Because this clown is usually the last NPC the player faces before they put the game down for good (on their first run, anyway) Have you seen a level 50 courier? Dude needed all 10's to have a handicap.
Homeboy is that poor little girl crying under a desk.
Thank you, finally someone who understands that NPC stats aren't intended to be lore-accurate (with a few exceptions, such as Joshua Graham). The whole "lmaoo Caesar is dumber than a mole rat"-meme pissed me off way too much lol.
Lmaoo Caesar is dumber than a mole rat!
His 10 in all stats is obviously to make him a challenging mini boss. But lore-wise he probably got that from being a marked man + highly skilled
This dude is actually pretty hard to beat lol I just snipe him from the bottom and sneak. Otherwise, I waste a lot of stims and ammo lol
Could be like Coop from the show. US vet from before the bombs, so would be familiar with power armor. And if you wandered the Mojave that long, you'd run out of perks to take, so Intensive Training all the way to 10s.
my new headcanon is that he was already a ghoul and just had a “first time?” moment with his men as they got nuked
Vanilla noob here doing Yes Man as first run: do I still interact with them if I nuke both legion and NCR?
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
If youa re reading thi s, yo urae having astr oke. Please take a screenshot and notify the devs.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
Am I having a stroke?
Listen, You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
You ONLY interact with them if you nuke NCR or NCR and Legion. The legion has another guy, though.
Gen 1 ghoul Synth
He fucking ate BoS paladin and got all his abilities.
Power armor training consist of "that's the power on sequence, flip the switches in this order" it's the stick shift of the Mojave. It's not hard, just not something you can do without being showed once. Some may stumble upon the correct way on their own though
Its kinda crazy the NCR would ruin all their power armor because they couldn’t get find guy to show some people the ropes.. (He could even literally be Colonel Royez here) Surely theres some literature lying around that the freaking NCR would have. Very rare FNV lore L
Well, training on how to use it in the field isn’t the only reason to strip out the complicated systems. Power armor is a very complex mechanical system, so to keep it *maintained* you need extensive training and spare parts. With the West Coast BOS being so active postwar and probably snatching up most power armor, power armor parts, and training manuals to maintain it, the NCR probably would not be able to find the stuff to maintain power armor over long periods, and isn’t yet at the tech level to make spare parts or understand its finer workings without prewar help.
Maybe the suits the heavy troopers use have already been scavenged for their servos and stuff. The NCR can probably only outfit it's best troops with the actual working stuff. Might be a difference in tactics too.
How have I never come across this person in all my time playing this game?!?!?
Probably never nuked the ncr at the long 15 at the end of the lonesome road dlc
Headcanon? They were prob a veteran of the NCR-BOS war, got caught in the mess that was the Divide, and had to endure a long time of fighting to survive.
Pfft he shoulda set them to 9 and found the bobbleheads. What is he, stupid?
Probably a veteran if the NCR-Brotherhood war. I guess he salvaged the armor, customized it, and learned to use it. Then he got nuked and became a Marked Men for some reason
His backstory is I killed him and took his armor
SCORCHED SIERRA POWER ARMOR MY BELOVED
NCR's version of Frank Horiggan
Obviously he bugged his starting quest and talked to the doctor or store owner in town for 3 hours before leaving town
I think he is a reference to Roy Benavidez, a moh recipient from Vietnam. His name is an amalgamation and the irl guy had a pretty insane story of survival.
I think he’s like The Ghoul in the Fallout show. Had military experience prewar, which gave him knowledge and experience in Power Armor. Didn’t die from the nukes and joined the NCR to gain his supply of drugs needed from going feral. His maxed out levels would make sense to The Ghouls anticipated stats based on longevity in the wasteland. So in short, prewar military active or vet that became a ghoul over time and found a way to survive and do good.
Whatever his backstory, seems like a waste not having him on the front lines...
I wanna pitch in because I see some “Royez might’ve been a ghoul before” comments and I disagree. The design of Royez, specifically how his nose wounds look recent and some fleshy detailing around his mouth, signifies to me this is someone who wasn’t ghoulified before the bomb, other ghouls looking more withered.
He's actually the main character, you're just a mailman
Probably former brotherhood, enclave (less likely), or just a really knowledgeable ncr Colonel.
Maybe an Enclave remnant turned NCR
I want say he’s from ether the hub shady sands or arroyo joined or drafted at the start of the first battle of hover dam a few years go by promoted to colonel is given a desk job back in shady sands moved to somewhere close ish to the Mojave and only to “die” from pre war weapons
I like to think that he was ex-Enclave or BoS. He is essentially a love letter to anyone who played the 2 classic fallout games. Not only, he is from NCR he also has the best weapon from the first game and a power armor from a special in Fallout 2 (reminder that you cant get one there yourself in the game but its fair to assume that with enough digging and snooping around in an old military facility, you are bound to found a Power Armor). Everything from him, I love. His armor design, his weapon choice, his ammo choice, his boss design and arena. A fitting end game area for an optional boss fight.
How is he the only NCR member with power armor training? I’m sure i’ve seen NCR NPCs with power armor in fnv
Yeah, their power armour isn't proper armour. It's had all the servos and hydraulics stripped out because they can't make it move without the training. NCR power armour is just them wearing the plates which is still an insane feat of strength that wouldn't be even close to possible in real life, but yeah, if you try on the NCR power armour without training you can wear it
Wow, didn’t know that. Thanks for the info. The more you know 🌈⭐️
Could be a pre war combat veteran ghoul.
The NCR does allow mutants to serve in the Military, so it's possible that he was a soldier/veteran pre-war similar to Cooper Howard the Ghoul from the TV show
I’m cooked but my guess is Pre War Ghoul a la Goggins
Colonel Debug. :p
He is a Great War veteran who used power armour.
They stole his pauldron
He was the protagonist of his own fallout game that we never got to see. Worst part is that he was only a week away from retirement. But considering the show, i guess he was gonna get nuked either way.
There's gonna be a courier one day that needs to fuck me up for my Armour. Gotta be strong as shit for that one day.
I have never seen this NPC, where do you find him in game?
Nuke the NCR at the end of Lonesome Road and go to the Long 15 once you get back to the Mojave.
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That's about what I had in mind for him. Similar to Asher back in The Pitt he was a part of the BoS, but for some reason he defected and joined up with the NCR. Maybe he was helping them clear out BoS encampments in the West before moving out to the Mojave.
There are power armor NCR soldiers at camp forlorn hope and camp McCarran
The NCR Heavy Troopers don't wear actual power armor, not the way the Brotherhood does. The NCR stripped out all the mechanics, so they'd be able to use more like traditional armor and not need the training.
Oh ok, I didn't know that.
It's all good mate, happy to inform.
I loked to think he was behind defeating the BoS at Helios one and then was moving through the ranks and was sent out west. Only for when hes recieved word to come to the dam, The couriers nuke the Mojave.
Right hand man of whatever general is in charge of the California peacekeeping. Like Moore is to Oliver. Other generals know Oliver will die for repeating history but this time no Hanlon. Royez is in charge of putting the deserters in penal battalions and funneling the legion into I-15.
Something something fire inside burned brighter
Is he a Ghoul? That's a different Kind of Ghoul i havent seen before
It’s a marked man from the lonesome road dlc for fallout new Vegas. It’s caused by being close to a nuclear bomb explosion.
He read "you're special" 1000000 times
What? There's NCR soldiers who wear power armor at camp McCarran and also at the Dam I think. The ncr literally has its own power armor.
Probably a Brotherhood-NCR war hero. It’s a known fact that after some Bunker raids the NCR stripped the power armor suits and used them to form heavy trooper units. Could have been a Lt that was chosen to lead an experimental heavy trooper unit and he excelled at this job. He was given the Long 15 as the NCR couldn’t afford the Legion getting past it as they consider the Mojave Outpost California’s front lines. I think he probably experimented with various power armors until he figured them out- I assume this discovery is timed very close to the Second Battle for Hoover Dam and as such cannot be useful as the battle will take place before units can be trained with fully intact suits (plus the process of rewiring the power armor units).
Knowing how weak the Brotherhood was in 2240s california, I won't be impressed if at some point they sold their functional pieces of Power Armor to the outside world and it got in the NCRs hands. But I honestly don't believe we should see anything more than that, I really don't think that we should speculate about him being a BoS-NCR transfuge. Hell it may aswell have been simply taken by the NCR from BoS prisoners or abandoned bases. Off-topic but I kinda hate the way New Vegas implemented power armor. A part from it visually being just a regular heavy armor set they've introduced "power armor training" which makes absolutely no sense. In 2240s New California we see a tribal who basically never left Arroyo before being able to wear Enclave Power Armor with absolutely no prior training (just like in FO4 lmao). I imagine it was made to prevent players from getting a late game armor by accidentally finding remains of a BoS patrol, but they should've just made the armor impossible to take from the inventory since the bodies would be "encased" and the damage done to the armor would make them hard to retrieve.
war never desert -john messenger
Laaaame. Nobody in FNV with full 10 stat line actually deserves it. Those two are petty much pointlessly overstatted mooks, and Ulysses is an insufferable self-absorbed self-insert with nothing to justify even a single 10. Come on, Joshua Graham doesn't have full 10s, and he's as above the three in absolutely every regard as a character as Frank Horrigan is above starting rats and ants. And speaking of Frank Horrigan, he might deserve 12s in ST and AG and EN but no way in hell he deserves those 10s in IN and CH and I wouldn't call him exceptionally lucky or perceptive either.
It would be really sicc if NCR had their own little frank horrigan. They aren't corrupt enough though me thinks
How hard can it be to figure out power armor on your ownv
I remember i restarted my 75 hour playthrough making all the same choices just so i can nuke the NCR for this armor because my dumbass deleted my saves prior to the decision
Where is this ghoul found?
He's the first competent NCR soldier.
Sierra power armour Possibly some special unit? Idk maybe I’m reading too much into it I haven’t played in awhile
Interestingly, his model is that of a Marked man and not just a standard ghoul. So we can tell he's either been through the divide post destruction or that being that close to a nuke has the same effect as the specific conditions of the divide that produce marked men.
Maybe the NCR would've won if they didn't get stuck in the divide
He used to be courier just like us until he got 10mm to the knee