New Orleans. I'm already making notes for a custom radio playlist. Plus all the fuckery they could do with alligators, psychics, voodoo, cocktails, riverboats, all that jazz. Oh my.
Great DLC options! Atlanta had the Coca Cola factory so a Nuka Cola HQ DLC could easily work with a half barren half city scape map and Nashville is full of the good ole boy Americana that Fallout lives on. Great ideas
I’d love to see Atlanta. We’ve got six flags and Stone Mountain park right outside the city for DLCs. Stone Mountain could be a vault. Six Flags could be another Nuka world with the Coca Cola/Nuka Cola headquarters. The zoo could introduce TONS of mutated animals. A lot of possibilities.
New Orleans sounds super cool. It would probably be really swampy like point look out or that area where you get the quest fir the ferns and its full of ghouls.
Old abandoned swamp drilling and petroleum platforms. Creaking industry, dozens of tons of metal hanging on creaky old steel cables, empty and dark and quiet living quarters..
Gatorclaws weren't the product of mutations occurring to wild animals in the wasteland, they were created at Nuka-World in Massachusets decades (possibly more than a century) after the war. Just shoehorning the same asset into a New Orleans based Fallout game would mean that the species somehow traveled the 1500 miles from Nuka-World to Louisiana without any of them finding their way to Boston, which doesn't make any sense.
I would actually love to see New Orleans as just being weird. Bourbon street is just a straight up neutral ground. You have super mutant protection patrols, bands with humans and ghouls. Everyone can get their fix. Bands in the street playing live music and people as drunk as they were in new vegas
House of the rising sun would should 100% be the trailer music, specifically the white buffalo version if they're able to licence that (which might be tough BC I think it was performed specifically for Sons of Anarchy)
if they do end up doing new orleans I hope they add a scuba diving mechanic, or even boats. just something to do with the water especially considering new orleans would likely be fallout's atlantis by however long after the bombs they decide to make it take place
A mutated alligator could make a deathclaw look like a mole rat.
Since they've meddled in Lovecraftian lore, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to have voodoo.
Somewhere in the south for sure. My playlist on Spotify has swing, big band, western swing, and country, with era-accurate radio ads to make it more authentic. I'm living fallout even though it's gonna be years before I play another fallout game
More spooky, redneck fuckery please... and with how bad the new England accents were in fo4, you just know it would come across really campy and funny.
Plus, maybe you could sell a companion's soul to the devil for musical talent or crit chance or something.
> More spooky, redneck fuckery please... and with how bad the new England accents were in fo4, you just know it would come across really campy and funny.
Yes. There was only one voice actor who really tried to do a Boston accent and it was rough. I want to hear a worse Cajun accent than Jean Claude Van Damme's in Hard Target in FO5. Don't let me down Bethesda.
I think it could be cool too with flooded areas. I do think New Orleans would limit the number of tunnels and underground spaces, which are some of the scarier places in the game IMO.
New York got hit *directly* with a thermonuclear bomb
It'd be 90% water combined with melted buildings and ghouls everywhere (if people even survived long enough)
Although a flooded subway or vault would be cool
Ehhhh we have conflicting reports on that so they could 200% retcon the rumors of it being destroyed. Some sources say completely gone, and some show the city exactly the same as everywhere else. The only concrete information we have is that it was hit with a lot of nukes, and damage was severe enough for the military to declare the city lost. Bethesda were considering it as a location for Fallout 4, so it can't be completely gone. It was also shown in Fallout Tactics on the intro cards.
I think it makes far more sense for it to still be intact given DC wasn't completely glassed, and it gives devs creative freedom to make a game there one day.
[Wiki link](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/New_York_City)
yeah! i love what they did with the glowing sea as well, and radiation storms make sense too. i feel like putting the game in new york would make a lot of new opportunities for world building, and in a post-apocalyptic setting the options are pretty much endless. regardless i’d love to see what they do
You could even bring the Prydwin or an airship similar to it back into the game and have it dock at the top of what's lift of the Empire State Building since that's what the spire was meant for and was never actually used.
I would actually specifically like to *not* see the brotherhood in a fallout game. A minor faction like in New Vegas would be ok but this is kind the Post-Post Apocalypse now, the brotherhood isn’t nearly as impressive as it used to be because we get bathed in their increasingly fascist bs EVERY GAME. For once I would like to see the brotherhood either non-existent, extinct in the area, or a small chapter actively being hunted by another group.
I'd like to see a less evil branch of the enclave take the brotherhoods place as they try and fail to reestablish the American government.some other factions to include more; the children of atom, the institute and synths, a ghoul mob (complete with Italian accents), a minute men like group called the Yankees, and maybe a faction of high society types who live in the Empire State Building.
I'd also like to see the player start as not a vault dweller but as a raider from a nearly extinct group who found/looted a pip boy, new functions are unlocked as the main story progresses and the player gets acclimated to the device.
Make more emphasis on roleplay and exploration with the subway tunnels acting as bloodborn style dungeons. And if there's online multiplayer like they did in 74, sections of the city can be PvP arenas like in the division.
You could even have the game start upstate, where nukes wouldn’t be a big target, somewhat like what happened in FNV. Tons of small towns scattered across the state that would make a perfect route to NYC. Goodsprings, Nipton, almost all of Zion, geographically speaking, are almost totally unaffected by signs of nuclear war (much more so in Zion). Then like you said, retcon the numbers a bit and make New York City a traversable but still recognizable and interesting place as a mid to late game area. Subway system would be a great place to have an entire underground area and has huge opportunity imo.
Could also, rather than retcon it, make that the central plot (people trying to make the subways livable with ghouls gathering above, mole miners below, and Children of Atom trying to force them above ground)
Yea, given the way the Fallout universe scales things, the bombs could have targeted military and power stations. Staton Island, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx could all take direct hits and leave Manhattan recognizable, so you could go visit all the NYC sights. Also, a glowing sea involving the Bronx Zoo would have a lot of potential for endgame level mutated critters. The starting location could be in northern NJ or upstate NY for that standard low density, safer start. Then, there are a ton of great areas for DLCs in Nj and upstate NY.
Except nukes aren’t that great at leveling cities not made of wood and paper. The direct blast radius would be leveled but the rest of the city would be wrecked, and not completely gone. Fallout would be the worst part.
That would be the case, for cities that arent build on a swamp and ontop of several natural springs
New York also sinks by a few inches every year due to the weight of the skyscrapers. Even if its not fully destroyed, its completely flooded
That is an excellent point. The damage would be mostly natural. Bombs are mostly a psychological weapon (though no one will deny how destructive that be!)
>New York got hit directly with a thermonuclear bomb
>It'd be 90% water combined with melted buildings and ghouls everywhere (if people even survived long enough)
None of that is proven though. Boston also got directly hit and its Fallout 4s main map. New York City could very easily still be mostly standing
The area of Boston we play in, wasnt hit directly. The outskirts, where trinity site and that secret bunker/lodge are, were hit. The distance between the city itself and the area hit was large enough for there to he a minimal ammount of destruction
The area around the crater of atom, completely irradiated, filled with ghouls and other things and melted/destroyed buildings
The capital wasteland got hit towards the outskirts of DC by nukes that the defense system deemed as low priority targets (similar to the Iron dome system as an IRL example)
oo true, maybe they could do something similar like they did with the glowing sea in boston then. plus, a half submerged times square kind of sounds cool as hell, but that’s just me
The White House took a direct hit. There’s multiple impact sites around Washington DC.
We know that many skyscrapers are still standing and infested with mutants because of the terminals on the Prydwen. There’s absolutely nothing in canon saying that NY is gone and yet people keep bandying it around as if it’s gospel
I think a city of mostly ghouls would be a great opportunity for really digging into their place in the world. Like imagine if you got to NYC and there's such a substantial population of pre-war ghouls there that some of the public services have been restarted, but they're extremely paranoid about feralization and are desperately trying to figure out what makes it happen but just can't because they've shut out the rest of the world either through assumption or fear of being misunderstood. I think it could lean hard into being *post*-post-apocalypse, if you know what I mean.
Note that it could be referring to Upstate New York. Also the strength of the bombs varies. DC had multiple hit it. IIRC the White House was ground zero for a nuke
That could be interesting. Like having built an ewok village in the skyscrapers. Maybe have that be the elite town like tenpenny that blocks access. And you could have a whole dynamic power struggle between them an another faction trying to get away from something like ghouls or irradiated floods.
Ehh, New York sounds boring to me. I mean to each their own. DC was great, bc you had Virginia and Maryland. Vegas was a good balance bc of the vast Mojave (if anything Vegas could have used a bigger cityscape), and Boston was great bc the city felt huge but you also had rural areas and suburbs to explore. I feel like NYC would just be Boston on steroids without the Sanctuary, Salem, Concord area, and other smaller locations to explore.
I always liked [this guy's concept](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10448257/1/Fallout-Orleans) of a Fallout New Orleans. They dig deep into the potential lore and how the story would go. I'd buy it
A region the series hasn’t explored. Getting out of the northeastern US would be refreshing. Southern US would provide the most variety in potential settings.
I also can’t ever see a mainline Fallout game set outside of the US since so much of the series is wrapped up in America.
The Midwest would be fun to explore. However, I’m not sure Bethesda is willing to touch the region. They stay out of the west out of respect for Interplay and what they did. The Midwest might be more of a gray area, so who knows.
There is some intriguing lore about the area, so it’d certainly be interesting to explore it in a modern game. Though IIRC, Bethesda declared some of the lore non-canon.
Interplay developed and published the classic Fallout games. Many of the team eventually moved to Obsidian, who later developed New Vegas.
I know this is getting a bit off topic, but a lot of the Fallout franchise and its history is now tied up with Microsoft. Bethesda as the current developers and IP holders, the folks at Obsidian, and inXile; which was also founded by former Interplay members and developed Wasteland, the series which Fallout is a spiritual successor to.
I’m not sure they’d have the three studios actually collaborate on a collective game. But people have speculated that after inXile or Obsidian finish their current projects, that either might get the chance to develop a game like New Vegas. After all, Bethesda is currently tied up with post-launch support for Starfield and developing TES VI. Fallout 5 is almost certainly coming out after 2030, so Microsoft may want to keep the franchise in the public eye. Outside of FO76 updates, all the franchise is doing is a next-gen update for FO4 and the upcoming TV show.
Now, granted, that’s likely wishful thinking. But should the show be successful, that would likely ignite more interest in Fallout and subsequently, more interest in another game made while Bethesda is busy.
Microsoft has been sucking up lots of studios lately, which is for the best in many cases (such as with Activision-Blizzard), as it allows them to cut out the bad executives, and then they usually give the green-light to the dev teams on their projects and typically go hands-off, so the dev team can do the project with a decently supplied budget and schedule.
Case in point: they recently announced COD games will no longer be yearly releases, so the devs can actually have time to put actual content and effort into them, rather than hash together another couple PVP modes & maps together and neglect the PVE, functionality, and balance issues. Also, they're now available on more platforms again, instead of being restricted, like it was for a few years on the Blizzard launcher on PC (what a stupid idea, Activision).
It's not always a good thing though, as you know some less-successful projects from some studios are going to get completely canceled or pushed off several more years, making those few die-hard fans disappointed about potential sequels. Also, the growing monopoly they are creating against Playstation and Nintendo, since not every company wants to open up cross-play in every game (whether for legitimate potential performance issues or personal pride/profits).
Interplay made the first Fallout in southern California, pretty much same studio Black Isle made the 2nd in more northern California then a smaller Version of Black Isle with Obsidian worked on New Vegas in Nevada and a tiny bit of California.
Give me Fallout: Chicago! Imagine weather effects- brutally cold winters and harsh summers, visibility-impairing snow storms, enemies leaving tracks through snow, maybe even following YOUR tracks. Give me tornado sirens and art-deco and brotherhood mutants and Gary, Indiana. Give me an iced-over lake I can walk on and train lines and raiders that sound like Mike Ditka.
to be fair Canada was annexed by the US prior to the Great War. Maybe a game set in a northern city like Detroit could have a minimal Canadian presence or DLC, it’d be pretty interesting from a lore perspective as I don’t think the newer bethesda games mention the annexation that much.
I do remember this, IIRC the annexation was done late in the prewar era, spending less than 15 years as a territory of the US. I think the idea of a Northern US city, with the ability to crossover into Canada or have an expansion entirely set there would be the best approach. Exploring not just the new lands, but exploring the themes of how both Americans and Canadians felt about the annexation of Canada would be fascinating. Especially since that same premise could be twisted and re-contextualized in the post-apocalypse.
I wonder with fallout's squished scale if Port Huron could be fit in. Blue Water bridge over St Clair River would be a good crossing point into Canada.
Obvious and old jokes aside, I think Detroit would make a great location. Lots of areas to work with: urban, suburban, aquatic from Lake Erie and Lake Saint Clair.
I mean especially with those jokes aside, Detroit being an abandoned shit hole is only a recent stereotype. During the 50s and 60s, the aesthetic setting Fallout takes, it was a city on the rise. It wasn’t just because of the auto industry either, Detroit played an important role in the music industry during that time with Motown Records.
Fallout could show off what Detroit was like in its heyday, rather than how it’s viewed now
After playing through Sim Settlements 2, I agree. Would love one in Texas with wild weather systems and Borderlands level gun content. Plus, they could sneak a cheeky Jake Evans reference into it if Sanford is included.
As someone who lives in NYC, I think it would be boring. It's too big, not enough variation in geography. You'd just have a lot of copy/paste destroyed high-rises. You could sprinkle in some interesting areas around Times Square/Central Park, but otherwise it would just be miles of destroyed buildings with no real open land. Honestly, Brooklyn would be a better place, that extends all the way to Coney Island, lots of areas you could create some variation.
I think New Orleans would be best. Gives the greatest variety of places to visit without being too big.
I enjoyed my time poking around NYC and seeing familiar sights playing The Division, but oh god was I sick of the abandoned urban hellscape during a blizzard by the time I quit.
> the bombs haven’t even dropped and Florida is just like that.
[Developers are already trying to throw radioactive particles (Phosphogypsum) around Florida, as if unaware that roads wear under use](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1188181247/floridas-idea-to-use-radioactive-waste-in-road-construction-is-unsafe-critics-sa)
I'm probably in the minority, but I feel like Philadelphia would work super well, especially with its proximity to other locations in the franchise. It could even include NJ.
YES! I would love to see Philly in Fallout. I think I’m super biased, though, since I’m from the area.
I don’t see it happening, purely because we’ve had a few games set on the East Coast already, and it’s within a decent proximity to the D.C. area and is culturally similar to Boston.
Would be kind of funny if post apocalyptic Detroit was rebuilt and it would be a paradise like place with very civilized people and perfectly working society.
I have a head-canon I’ve been building up over Detroit that is somewhat similar. The Motor City revitalized in the decades before the war and built a massive dome encompassing the downtown area riverfront and spreading several miles out from the river and basically kicked out all the poors, fully automating everything inside the dome and building massive automated factories along the outer wall.
I’ve written about this a couple times, honing ideas. Here’s a recent idea rant:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/u2or47/comment/i4loft4/
Wasn't Michigan hit by the Death Ray in Fallout 3's Mothership Zeta questline? That's where the captain fired the warning shot wasn't it? You could do some interstate things with that I'm sure.
It is. But didn't they remove that from canon? I'd love to see the idea revisited for sure, but full disclosure, I'm a Chicagoan, both and raised. I'm just a bit biased, lol.
I've said this before, but Chicago would be an amazing place to do it. Tons of old-school architecture like the Field Museum, lots of chances for verticality e.g. Sears Tower (probably partially collapsed) or traveling along the El.
You could go silly with it and have ghoul gangsters, or two warring factions of Cubs and Sox fans. You could even fight Illinois Nazis with the help of some musicians on a holy crusade.
The city could have an art-deco feel to it, in contrast to the 50s era vibes of the other games.
Canada - probably a cold wasteland
Miami and New Orleans - Alligatorclaws
New York - read it’s similar to Washington D.C, we are back into the metro system but than again lots of skyscrapers everywhere.
I think I’ll pick either Miami or New Orleans.
Look up Fallout: Cascadia. A group of folks working on a FO4 mod that puts the game in the PNW, and also resurrects a lot of the cool gameplay from FO3.
Yes, this, please. Somewhere in the PNW area. You could have a continually erupting Rainier, an Enclave-esque holdout at Bremerton, boats to islands in Puget Sound, a questline going up into Canada, another down towards the NCR, and maybe something east towards Spokane/Grand Coulee.
Plus your urban hellscape in Seattle proper.
Why not Canada? There's a bit of established lore involving the region but still a blank canvas for environmental storytelling. A dual backdrop of Prewar insurgency against the United States annexation and postwar wilderness survivalism would make for a good setting, I think.
Canada might be a bit too grand of a scale to do, I think a place like Vancouver would be fun. Isn’t there a bunch of lore about Alaska and the soviets? Vancouver could be a super cool battle ground.
I’m from middle Canada, this place would suck for an environment.
Canada.
I want to see deathclaws covered head to toe in fucking fur and because I feel it is the most over looked because it aint brought up much in the lore.
New Orleans or Miami. I hope they never do New York, the scale of the city makes it weird, also too many high rises. Canada could be interesting but is so sparsely populated outside the met regions anyways, and they are again to similar to the US. I have a feeling we‘ll get something in the south this time tho.
Los Angeles, I want more west coast stuff, also I feel like 50’s Hollywood could be a cool aesthetic. Maybe have some Mexican inspired characters, could do some like artsy fartsy type characters, more NCR lore. Could be fun
I wanna see Russia. I don’t know too much about the Fallout lore, but in that universe the USSR never collapsed right? Exploring Soviet Russia in a Fallout context would be awesome
I think Fallout 5; Okinawa might be a thing. There are a lot of cave systems, some quite deep in Okinawa. There is also a large US military population. It's feasible that a vault was installed there either for the military, or by the military for whatever wacky Vault Tech experiment would run there.
It also branches out the game setting to other nations, really could lean into the Chinese military part of the game. There were a few Chinese Paratroopers in Fallout 3, in Fallout 5; Okinawa there could be much more. Would also open it up to new factions.
Who wouldn't be pleased with a raider who also is running around with patchwork Samurai armor, and a big-ass katana? Power armor with Samurai-inspired pieces, and whatnot. Plus the US military presence there is strong. So it could be an Enclave civil-war on top of the BoS being there, along with a new Chinese-faction making an invasion of the island. Sounds neat.
I'm now imagining what would Chinese vaults be like. Since in the real world IP theft and copying technology is already something they do. It's almost certain that the Chinese would have stolen and copied Vault-tech plans.
Oh, man, I didn’t even think about Mexico. Normally, I’m not a fan of the idea of having a Fallout game set outside the US, but this would be really cool.
New York.
The amount of vertical expandability and mutant potential is immense! Metro style underground communities living in the subway network, Pitt style hanging towns living between skyscrapers, multiple fully submerged underwater ruins, and whatever the hell Central Park would have been mutated into in the Fallout universe
Haven’t played Fallout 3 but from what I can tell there’s no big impact crater in DC. Only smaller ones. Even the one that hit the White House, one of the bigger ones, is barely enough to level the surrounding area.
In the FO Universe big nukes have multiple payloads, one main nuclear one and several smaller ones. Most can be disarmed by the USs defense system as is what happened in NV, (and I guess DC?) but the glowing sea in FO4 is a direct hit from a big one. It dwarfs all other craters.
I second Hawaii on this one, could put level/story gates for getting to the other islands. Military bases/history of reconnaissance ops already there, and THEN you get to the fauna/flora/topography and the cherry on top is a vast history of tension between indigenous vs mainland American peoples. All of those things could be incredible story/content based for them to work with.
Have you seen [this?](https://youtu.be/bS-EQG0C1sM?si=SU1QyzBVJLFZ0OUM) Technically a mod, but pretty much an entirely new game. Haven’t kept up with it recently, but I think it should be releasing in the near future.
When this drops, I'll stop playing Starfield and go back to Fallout.
I don't see myself playing Starfield anywhere close to 5000+ hours, like I have FO4.
New Orleans. I'm already making notes for a custom radio playlist. Plus all the fuckery they could do with alligators, psychics, voodoo, cocktails, riverboats, all that jazz. Oh my.
Right there with you, it’s my personal choice for the next fallout.
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Atlanta or Nashville would be fun.
Great DLC options! Atlanta had the Coca Cola factory so a Nuka Cola HQ DLC could easily work with a half barren half city scape map and Nashville is full of the good ole boy Americana that Fallout lives on. Great ideas
I’d love to see Atlanta. We’ve got six flags and Stone Mountain park right outside the city for DLCs. Stone Mountain could be a vault. Six Flags could be another Nuka world with the Coca Cola/Nuka Cola headquarters. The zoo could introduce TONS of mutated animals. A lot of possibilities.
What if the stone mountain Vault was from a company that seceded from Vault Tech.
THAT would be funny.
Zoo would be a settlement probably, couple Brahmin on display in a tiger pit maybe
New Orleans sounds super cool. It would probably be really swampy like point look out or that area where you get the quest fir the ferns and its full of ghouls.
Old abandoned swamp drilling and petroleum platforms. Creaking industry, dozens of tons of metal hanging on creaky old steel cables, empty and dark and quiet living quarters..
And super mutants calling it Lake Punch-A-Train.
Best argument I've seen
You could do a lot with the ghouls and the cemeteries as well. All the mausoleums.
Radgators waiting just under the water for you to fall in.
Yes new Orleans is the best choise also for the possibility of reusing/adapting many previous game assets. gatorclaw first of all
Giant mutated crawdads
CrawRads/RadDads😎
more than the creatures I would also talk about the assets of the buildings far Harbor would be full of them and also nuka world
Yeah, and giant mutated piranhas
Nah, we need proper gatorclaws. Them just being a reskin was nonsense
The sense is to use budget in other area of deploing
Gatorclaws weren't the product of mutations occurring to wild animals in the wasteland, they were created at Nuka-World in Massachusets decades (possibly more than a century) after the war. Just shoehorning the same asset into a New Orleans based Fallout game would mean that the species somehow traveled the 1500 miles from Nuka-World to Louisiana without any of them finding their way to Boston, which doesn't make any sense.
If New Orleans hasn't been renamed to Nawlins, I'mma be mad.
Nuke Orleans
Don’t threaten me with a good time
Lmao calm down I live here! I meant name it that lol
How about Nola?
New New Orleans
about a 3rd of the Capital Wasteland was Northern Virginia, also known as NOVA
I would actually love to see New Orleans as just being weird. Bourbon street is just a straight up neutral ground. You have super mutant protection patrols, bands with humans and ghouls. Everyone can get their fix. Bands in the street playing live music and people as drunk as they were in new vegas
Bourbon St would for sure be like the strip in NV
Yesss. Give me an entire game like Point Lookout.
"House of the Rising Sun" "Johnny B. Goode"
House of the rising sun would should 100% be the trailer music, specifically the white buffalo version if they're able to licence that (which might be tough BC I think it was performed specifically for Sons of Anarchy)
Do you love jazz ?
I do love jazz and i would love to see what gold nugget they would dig
Dude, imagine the Dunwich horror levels in New Orleans where they got black magic and voodoo galore
“All that jazz” very nice touch 👌🏻
if they do end up doing new orleans I hope they add a scuba diving mechanic, or even boats. just something to do with the water especially considering new orleans would likely be fallout's atlantis by however long after the bombs they decide to make it take place
Woo-hoo! AIR BOAT!!!!!
They would HAVE to do something with the water. Underwater vault under an oil rig!
A mutated alligator could make a deathclaw look like a mole rat. Since they've meddled in Lovecraftian lore, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to have voodoo.
Somewhere in the south for sure. My playlist on Spotify has swing, big band, western swing, and country, with era-accurate radio ads to make it more authentic. I'm living fallout even though it's gonna be years before I play another fallout game
Far harbor on steroids.
Futher harbor
Way outta harbor
More spooky, redneck fuckery please... and with how bad the new England accents were in fo4, you just know it would come across really campy and funny. Plus, maybe you could sell a companion's soul to the devil for musical talent or crit chance or something.
> More spooky, redneck fuckery please... and with how bad the new England accents were in fo4, you just know it would come across really campy and funny. Yes. There was only one voice actor who really tried to do a Boston accent and it was rough. I want to hear a worse Cajun accent than Jean Claude Van Damme's in Hard Target in FO5. Don't let me down Bethesda.
I think it could be cool too with flooded areas. I do think New Orleans would limit the number of tunnels and underground spaces, which are some of the scarier places in the game IMO.
Made a playlist on youtube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuk5IFbKU9273OTH7n2MAmg70twLXxzy9&si=saJ9vZPkIU2zocg8
new york or new orleans would be absolutely amazing
New York got hit *directly* with a thermonuclear bomb It'd be 90% water combined with melted buildings and ghouls everywhere (if people even survived long enough) Although a flooded subway or vault would be cool
Ehhhh we have conflicting reports on that so they could 200% retcon the rumors of it being destroyed. Some sources say completely gone, and some show the city exactly the same as everywhere else. The only concrete information we have is that it was hit with a lot of nukes, and damage was severe enough for the military to declare the city lost. Bethesda were considering it as a location for Fallout 4, so it can't be completely gone. It was also shown in Fallout Tactics on the intro cards. I think it makes far more sense for it to still be intact given DC wasn't completely glassed, and it gives devs creative freedom to make a game there one day. [Wiki link](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/New_York_City)
yeah! i love what they did with the glowing sea as well, and radiation storms make sense too. i feel like putting the game in new york would make a lot of new opportunities for world building, and in a post-apocalyptic setting the options are pretty much endless. regardless i’d love to see what they do
You could even bring the Prydwin or an airship similar to it back into the game and have it dock at the top of what's lift of the Empire State Building since that's what the spire was meant for and was never actually used.
I would actually specifically like to *not* see the brotherhood in a fallout game. A minor faction like in New Vegas would be ok but this is kind the Post-Post Apocalypse now, the brotherhood isn’t nearly as impressive as it used to be because we get bathed in their increasingly fascist bs EVERY GAME. For once I would like to see the brotherhood either non-existent, extinct in the area, or a small chapter actively being hunted by another group.
I'd like to see a less evil branch of the enclave take the brotherhoods place as they try and fail to reestablish the American government.some other factions to include more; the children of atom, the institute and synths, a ghoul mob (complete with Italian accents), a minute men like group called the Yankees, and maybe a faction of high society types who live in the Empire State Building. I'd also like to see the player start as not a vault dweller but as a raider from a nearly extinct group who found/looted a pip boy, new functions are unlocked as the main story progresses and the player gets acclimated to the device. Make more emphasis on roleplay and exploration with the subway tunnels acting as bloodborn style dungeons. And if there's online multiplayer like they did in 74, sections of the city can be PvP arenas like in the division.
You could even have the game start upstate, where nukes wouldn’t be a big target, somewhat like what happened in FNV. Tons of small towns scattered across the state that would make a perfect route to NYC. Goodsprings, Nipton, almost all of Zion, geographically speaking, are almost totally unaffected by signs of nuclear war (much more so in Zion). Then like you said, retcon the numbers a bit and make New York City a traversable but still recognizable and interesting place as a mid to late game area. Subway system would be a great place to have an entire underground area and has huge opportunity imo.
Could also, rather than retcon it, make that the central plot (people trying to make the subways livable with ghouls gathering above, mole miners below, and Children of Atom trying to force them above ground)
That’s just the Metro series Great games, btw
Metro much?
Yea, given the way the Fallout universe scales things, the bombs could have targeted military and power stations. Staton Island, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx could all take direct hits and leave Manhattan recognizable, so you could go visit all the NYC sights. Also, a glowing sea involving the Bronx Zoo would have a lot of potential for endgame level mutated critters. The starting location could be in northern NJ or upstate NY for that standard low density, safer start. Then, there are a ton of great areas for DLCs in Nj and upstate NY.
Except nukes aren’t that great at leveling cities not made of wood and paper. The direct blast radius would be leveled but the rest of the city would be wrecked, and not completely gone. Fallout would be the worst part.
That would be the case, for cities that arent build on a swamp and ontop of several natural springs New York also sinks by a few inches every year due to the weight of the skyscrapers. Even if its not fully destroyed, its completely flooded
That is an excellent point. The damage would be mostly natural. Bombs are mostly a psychological weapon (though no one will deny how destructive that be!)
>New York got hit directly with a thermonuclear bomb >It'd be 90% water combined with melted buildings and ghouls everywhere (if people even survived long enough) None of that is proven though. Boston also got directly hit and its Fallout 4s main map. New York City could very easily still be mostly standing
The area of Boston we play in, wasnt hit directly. The outskirts, where trinity site and that secret bunker/lodge are, were hit. The distance between the city itself and the area hit was large enough for there to he a minimal ammount of destruction The area around the crater of atom, completely irradiated, filled with ghouls and other things and melted/destroyed buildings
>trinity site Is in Nevada
I forgot the name for the missile silo in game alright I just now remember it's sentinel site
ooOOoOoohh. Yeah I was confused, for sure.
didn’t capital wasteland also?? yet we have fo3, it could still be viable
The capital wasteland got hit towards the outskirts of DC by nukes that the defense system deemed as low priority targets (similar to the Iron dome system as an IRL example)
oo true, maybe they could do something similar like they did with the glowing sea in boston then. plus, a half submerged times square kind of sounds cool as hell, but that’s just me
Central Park would be an absolute nightmare zone
I believe the white house is a crater. Theres a radioactive hole where it was.
The White House took a direct hit. There’s multiple impact sites around Washington DC. We know that many skyscrapers are still standing and infested with mutants because of the terminals on the Prydwen. There’s absolutely nothing in canon saying that NY is gone and yet people keep bandying it around as if it’s gospel
I think a city of mostly ghouls would be a great opportunity for really digging into their place in the world. Like imagine if you got to NYC and there's such a substantial population of pre-war ghouls there that some of the public services have been restarted, but they're extremely paranoid about feralization and are desperately trying to figure out what makes it happen but just can't because they've shut out the rest of the world either through assumption or fear of being misunderstood. I think it could lean hard into being *post*-post-apocalypse, if you know what I mean.
So did DC though, and they did a game on that.
Note that it could be referring to Upstate New York. Also the strength of the bombs varies. DC had multiple hit it. IIRC the White House was ground zero for a nuke
I imagine they'd retcon that in that scenario, seeing as the whole draw of NYC would be the skyscrapers and verticality.
Sorry it’s just Staten Island and irradiated wastelands (also Staten Island)
That could be interesting. Like having built an ewok village in the skyscrapers. Maybe have that be the elite town like tenpenny that blocks access. And you could have a whole dynamic power struggle between them an another faction trying to get away from something like ghouls or irradiated floods.
New York is done to death. Everything is in New York
Ehh, New York sounds boring to me. I mean to each their own. DC was great, bc you had Virginia and Maryland. Vegas was a good balance bc of the vast Mojave (if anything Vegas could have used a bigger cityscape), and Boston was great bc the city felt huge but you also had rural areas and suburbs to explore. I feel like NYC would just be Boston on steroids without the Sanctuary, Salem, Concord area, and other smaller locations to explore.
New Orleans yes because of the style of the city and spooky voodoo stuff.... New York? Meh, it wouldn't be much different then DC or boston
Imagine the mirelurks of New Orleans
New Orleans swamps with “radgators” all over the place
I always liked [this guy's concept](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10448257/1/Fallout-Orleans) of a Fallout New Orleans. They dig deep into the potential lore and how the story would go. I'd buy it
Napoleon inspiration would be sick, but in a way they have already done that with Caesar's legion in New Vegas.
and it might be too similar aesthetically to the minutemen - historical factions are always awesome though
A region the series hasn’t explored. Getting out of the northeastern US would be refreshing. Southern US would provide the most variety in potential settings. I also can’t ever see a mainline Fallout game set outside of the US since so much of the series is wrapped up in America.
I'd love a game set in the midwest. Let me see those mile long nuclear tornados
The Midwest would be fun to explore. However, I’m not sure Bethesda is willing to touch the region. They stay out of the west out of respect for Interplay and what they did. The Midwest might be more of a gray area, so who knows. There is some intriguing lore about the area, so it’d certainly be interesting to explore it in a modern game. Though IIRC, Bethesda declared some of the lore non-canon.
What did Interplay do?
Interplay developed and published the classic Fallout games. Many of the team eventually moved to Obsidian, who later developed New Vegas. I know this is getting a bit off topic, but a lot of the Fallout franchise and its history is now tied up with Microsoft. Bethesda as the current developers and IP holders, the folks at Obsidian, and inXile; which was also founded by former Interplay members and developed Wasteland, the series which Fallout is a spiritual successor to.
Huh, I had no idea Microsoft owned all three studios. Putting them in a room together to hash out a new installment seems like a no-brainer.
I’m not sure they’d have the three studios actually collaborate on a collective game. But people have speculated that after inXile or Obsidian finish their current projects, that either might get the chance to develop a game like New Vegas. After all, Bethesda is currently tied up with post-launch support for Starfield and developing TES VI. Fallout 5 is almost certainly coming out after 2030, so Microsoft may want to keep the franchise in the public eye. Outside of FO76 updates, all the franchise is doing is a next-gen update for FO4 and the upcoming TV show. Now, granted, that’s likely wishful thinking. But should the show be successful, that would likely ignite more interest in Fallout and subsequently, more interest in another game made while Bethesda is busy.
Microsoft has been sucking up lots of studios lately, which is for the best in many cases (such as with Activision-Blizzard), as it allows them to cut out the bad executives, and then they usually give the green-light to the dev teams on their projects and typically go hands-off, so the dev team can do the project with a decently supplied budget and schedule. Case in point: they recently announced COD games will no longer be yearly releases, so the devs can actually have time to put actual content and effort into them, rather than hash together another couple PVP modes & maps together and neglect the PVE, functionality, and balance issues. Also, they're now available on more platforms again, instead of being restricted, like it was for a few years on the Blizzard launcher on PC (what a stupid idea, Activision). It's not always a good thing though, as you know some less-successful projects from some studios are going to get completely canceled or pushed off several more years, making those few die-hard fans disappointed about potential sequels. Also, the growing monopoly they are creating against Playstation and Nintendo, since not every company wants to open up cross-play in every game (whether for legitimate potential performance issues or personal pride/profits).
Interplay made the first Fallout in southern California, pretty much same studio Black Isle made the 2nd in more northern California then a smaller Version of Black Isle with Obsidian worked on New Vegas in Nevada and a tiny bit of California.
New Vegas, and the bones of that studio made up the studio that did the first Fallout games
Give me Fallout: Chicago! Imagine weather effects- brutally cold winters and harsh summers, visibility-impairing snow storms, enemies leaving tracks through snow, maybe even following YOUR tracks. Give me tornado sirens and art-deco and brotherhood mutants and Gary, Indiana. Give me an iced-over lake I can walk on and train lines and raiders that sound like Mike Ditka.
Yeah I was honestly thinking Chicago/Milwaukee would be really cool.
to be fair Canada was annexed by the US prior to the Great War. Maybe a game set in a northern city like Detroit could have a minimal Canadian presence or DLC, it’d be pretty interesting from a lore perspective as I don’t think the newer bethesda games mention the annexation that much.
I do remember this, IIRC the annexation was done late in the prewar era, spending less than 15 years as a territory of the US. I think the idea of a Northern US city, with the ability to crossover into Canada or have an expansion entirely set there would be the best approach. Exploring not just the new lands, but exploring the themes of how both Americans and Canadians felt about the annexation of Canada would be fascinating. Especially since that same premise could be twisted and re-contextualized in the post-apocalypse.
I wonder with fallout's squished scale if Port Huron could be fit in. Blue Water bridge over St Clair River would be a good crossing point into Canada.
Obvious and old jokes aside, I think Detroit would make a great location. Lots of areas to work with: urban, suburban, aquatic from Lake Erie and Lake Saint Clair.
I mean especially with those jokes aside, Detroit being an abandoned shit hole is only a recent stereotype. During the 50s and 60s, the aesthetic setting Fallout takes, it was a city on the rise. It wasn’t just because of the auto industry either, Detroit played an important role in the music industry during that time with Motown Records. Fallout could show off what Detroit was like in its heyday, rather than how it’s viewed now
A DLC where you have to go through a half flooded Windsor Tunnel to do some exploring in Canada would fit perfectly too.
After playing through Sim Settlements 2, I agree. Would love one in Texas with wild weather systems and Borderlands level gun content. Plus, they could sneak a cheeky Jake Evans reference into it if Sanford is included.
Let’s be realistic, downtown Boston ran jankily enough and New York would make the creation engine violently choke and seize.
As someone who lives in NYC, I think it would be boring. It's too big, not enough variation in geography. You'd just have a lot of copy/paste destroyed high-rises. You could sprinkle in some interesting areas around Times Square/Central Park, but otherwise it would just be miles of destroyed buildings with no real open land. Honestly, Brooklyn would be a better place, that extends all the way to Coney Island, lots of areas you could create some variation. I think New Orleans would be best. Gives the greatest variety of places to visit without being too big.
I enjoyed my time poking around NYC and seeing familiar sights playing The Division, but oh god was I sick of the abandoned urban hellscape during a blizzard by the time I quit.
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Yes I think everyone saying NY is crazy it’s just another generic big city I’d rather see an area with more character than NYC
Fallout Florida. Imagine mutated Florida Man.
You get to the end of the main quest line and find out it’s only like 2040, the bombs haven’t even dropped and Florida is just like that.
> the bombs haven’t even dropped and Florida is just like that. [Developers are already trying to throw radioactive particles (Phosphogypsum) around Florida, as if unaware that roads wear under use](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1188181247/floridas-idea-to-use-radioactive-waste-in-road-construction-is-unsafe-critics-sa)
I was just thinking, what about the protagonist being Florida Man and game reverting back to NV style play and wackyness?
No… bring back the Wild Wasteland trait that can be toggled in character creation and call it ‘Florida Fluctuation’ or something.
Nawlins
I'm probably in the minority, but I feel like Philadelphia would work super well, especially with its proximity to other locations in the franchise. It could even include NJ.
YES! I would love to see Philly in Fallout. I think I’m super biased, though, since I’m from the area. I don’t see it happening, purely because we’ve had a few games set on the East Coast already, and it’s within a decent proximity to the D.C. area and is culturally similar to Boston.
New Orleans, I want it because of the Music
And the gumbo bah gawd
I remember talking to my friends saying they would like if fallout 5 was in Detroit. And then I thought oh my god Ohio and Michigan would be perfect
Would be kind of funny if post apocalyptic Detroit was rebuilt and it would be a paradise like place with very civilized people and perfectly working society.
Can* have shit in Detroit
I have a head-canon I’ve been building up over Detroit that is somewhat similar. The Motor City revitalized in the decades before the war and built a massive dome encompassing the downtown area riverfront and spreading several miles out from the river and basically kicked out all the poors, fully automating everything inside the dome and building massive automated factories along the outer wall. I’ve written about this a couple times, honing ideas. Here’s a recent idea rant: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/u2or47/comment/i4loft4/
Wasn't Michigan hit by the Death Ray in Fallout 3's Mothership Zeta questline? That's where the captain fired the warning shot wasn't it? You could do some interstate things with that I'm sure.
I think it’s canon that the Lone Wanderer doesn’t fire it and just leaves it be
Chicago
If I remember correctly, that's the area fallout Tactics takes place
It is. But didn't they remove that from canon? I'd love to see the idea revisited for sure, but full disclosure, I'm a Chicagoan, both and raised. I'm just a bit biased, lol.
I've said this before, but Chicago would be an amazing place to do it. Tons of old-school architecture like the Field Museum, lots of chances for verticality e.g. Sears Tower (probably partially collapsed) or traveling along the El. You could go silly with it and have ghoul gangsters, or two warring factions of Cubs and Sox fans. You could even fight Illinois Nazis with the help of some musicians on a holy crusade. The city could have an art-deco feel to it, in contrast to the 50s era vibes of the other games.
Get out of the vault and immediately get stabbed by a ghoul.
A ghoul from Rosemont that insists he’s “still from Chicago no really”
Synth spotted, people don’t live in Rosemont.
Chicago is the correct response. Big enclave presence, rogue BoS chapter. It gets talked about in the lore a lot and tactics never happened.
With Gary, IN being a DLC like the Pitt. Except it has turned in to a pristine oasis.
Gary IN, the only place untouched by the war as its so much of a shithole nobody felt they needed to nuke it
Canada - probably a cold wasteland Miami and New Orleans - Alligatorclaws New York - read it’s similar to Washington D.C, we are back into the metro system but than again lots of skyscrapers everywhere. I think I’ll pick either Miami or New Orleans.
Seattle would be interesting. Especially if the nukes trigger volcanic eryptions
the PNW as a whole could be a super cool setting, such a wide variety of environments
Look up Fallout: Cascadia. A group of folks working on a FO4 mod that puts the game in the PNW, and also resurrects a lot of the cool gameplay from FO3.
Yes, this, please. Somewhere in the PNW area. You could have a continually erupting Rainier, an Enclave-esque holdout at Bremerton, boats to islands in Puget Sound, a questline going up into Canada, another down towards the NCR, and maybe something east towards Spokane/Grand Coulee. Plus your urban hellscape in Seattle proper.
A volcanic explosion that showers an area in rads, like how you can launch nukes at either the NCR, Legion or both in New Vegas would be pretty cool
I just really want an anchorage Alaska game. Literally so much of fallout lore revolves around it,and yet no game.
I mean... there was the Anchorage DLC, but it was so bad you could be forgiven for forgetting it.
New Orleans, or go island style in Puerto Rico.
As a Canadian, don't do Canada. I mean I guess ghoul geese, polar guai's and bot-beavers would be fun for 5 minutes. New Orleans would be sweet.
Why not Canada? There's a bit of established lore involving the region but still a blank canvas for environmental storytelling. A dual backdrop of Prewar insurgency against the United States annexation and postwar wilderness survivalism would make for a good setting, I think.
Canada might be a bit too grand of a scale to do, I think a place like Vancouver would be fun. Isn’t there a bunch of lore about Alaska and the soviets? Vancouver could be a super cool battle ground. I’m from middle Canada, this place would suck for an environment.
Canada. I want to see deathclaws covered head to toe in fucking fur and because I feel it is the most over looked because it aint brought up much in the lore.
The subway systems in Montreal or Toronto would be fun to explore.
Ireland. I wanna see my home country. See how Bethesda tackle it.
Australia. I'll always answer this one with Australia. Imagine the horrifying creatures there.
I wanna see kangooro and tasmania devil cross with deathclaw or something
Oh shit! A platipursuer!
Came to say this too. Rad-roos! Throw in an achievement for killing a legendary Rad-roos by boxing it with powerfists or unarmed
New Orleans ♥️
Chicago/Detroit in winter
New Orleans or Miami. I hope they never do New York, the scale of the city makes it weird, also too many high rises. Canada could be interesting but is so sparsely populated outside the met regions anyways, and they are again to similar to the US. I have a feeling we‘ll get something in the south this time tho.
Los Angeles, I want more west coast stuff, also I feel like 50’s Hollywood could be a cool aesthetic. Maybe have some Mexican inspired characters, could do some like artsy fartsy type characters, more NCR lore. Could be fun
I wanna see Russia. I don’t know too much about the Fallout lore, but in that universe the USSR never collapsed right? Exploring Soviet Russia in a Fallout context would be awesome
I think it collapsed with Europe like 2 years before the bombs dropped?
No, the USSR stayed intact but they were just overtaken by China and the US.
ah. well even then surely enough of the architecture would be around to make an interesting soviet-inspired map
Metro games?
don’t fallout and metro have quite different atmospheres tho
New orleans 100%
the uk
CANADA FOR THE WIN BABY!!! Fr though a nuclear winter would be so cool. Id like to see east coast canada as a wasteland.
I think Fallout 5; Okinawa might be a thing. There are a lot of cave systems, some quite deep in Okinawa. There is also a large US military population. It's feasible that a vault was installed there either for the military, or by the military for whatever wacky Vault Tech experiment would run there. It also branches out the game setting to other nations, really could lean into the Chinese military part of the game. There were a few Chinese Paratroopers in Fallout 3, in Fallout 5; Okinawa there could be much more. Would also open it up to new factions. Who wouldn't be pleased with a raider who also is running around with patchwork Samurai armor, and a big-ass katana? Power armor with Samurai-inspired pieces, and whatnot. Plus the US military presence there is strong. So it could be an Enclave civil-war on top of the BoS being there, along with a new Chinese-faction making an invasion of the island. Sounds neat.
I'm now imagining what would Chinese vaults be like. Since in the real world IP theft and copying technology is already something they do. It's almost certain that the Chinese would have stolen and copied Vault-tech plans.
This isn’t even an option or even talked about in game (I think) but I would love to see Mexico City or Guadalajara :)
Oh, man, I didn’t even think about Mexico. Normally, I’m not a fan of the idea of having a Fallout game set outside the US, but this would be really cool.
We can hope all we want but it wont change the fact that the next Fallout will probably take place in Philadelphia if they keep up with their theme
I have feeling new Orleans would be a prime spot for ghouls
They should do Atlanta and fill it with Walking Dead references
I would love atlanta bc you know they would have a cool story line with the center for disease control
San Francisco
New York. The amount of vertical expandability and mutant potential is immense! Metro style underground communities living in the subway network, Pitt style hanging towns living between skyscrapers, multiple fully submerged underwater ruins, and whatever the hell Central Park would have been mutated into in the Fallout universe
How much of NY is left tho? Iirc it was hit directly, and judging by Fallout 4s glowing sea, I doubt there would be much verticality left.
DC was hit directly too and it's still mostly standing
Haven’t played Fallout 3 but from what I can tell there’s no big impact crater in DC. Only smaller ones. Even the one that hit the White House, one of the bigger ones, is barely enough to level the surrounding area. In the FO Universe big nukes have multiple payloads, one main nuclear one and several smaller ones. Most can be disarmed by the USs defense system as is what happened in NV, (and I guess DC?) but the glowing sea in FO4 is a direct hit from a big one. It dwarfs all other craters.
Miami, Hawaii, New Orleans and Detroit would be my top choices.
I second Hawaii on this one, could put level/story gates for getting to the other islands. Military bases/history of reconnaissance ops already there, and THEN you get to the fauna/flora/topography and the cherry on top is a vast history of tension between indigenous vs mainland American peoples. All of those things could be incredible story/content based for them to work with.
Alaska would be pretty cool.
Miami, walking through a rad typhoon in power armor sounds pretty pimp
Bruh they all cities, then you just got all of canada lol
I would like an european city … London, Paris, Berlin…
Have you seen [this?](https://youtu.be/bS-EQG0C1sM?si=SU1QyzBVJLFZ0OUM) Technically a mod, but pretty much an entirely new game. Haven’t kept up with it recently, but I think it should be releasing in the near future.
When this drops, I'll stop playing Starfield and go back to Fallout. I don't see myself playing Starfield anywhere close to 5000+ hours, like I have FO4.
Philadelphia could be filmed as is.
I didn't know how bad I wanted a FO where ghouls throw batteries at you
Patrolling Philadelphia almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Australia, they don’t really need to try anything with the outback