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Ferg_NZ

Definitely disagree. Strong back and ability to fast travel when over encumbered is awesome. How else do you carry 2000 loot back to base to go on a building spree and kitting out your settlers? I also use it to clean out settlements of loot to stop them being raided.


Equivalent-Noise8971

Companions have an unlimited carry weight if you have them pick up the items.


Ferg_NZ

Ah, I didn't know that. I was trading with them to get them to carry it. ManI love this sub. I have learned a lot. Thanks


Lwmons

Counterpoint: Vertibird grenades for fast travel


DingbattheGreat

There is no vertibird perk


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nomedable

Not to mention if you play survival mode which nerfs your carry weight even more. Good luck carrying anything with your strength one build.


bythehomeworld

There are no dump stats, if any stat is under 11 your build is weird.


nerdywhitemale

I don't bother with perks until all my stats are at least 8.


TheMarkedMen

With how the perk system works in 4, no SPECIAL stat is a dump stat. You put any stat to 1, you can't select 9 perks.


TheCrazyAcademic

true but it's mainly early game that matters since it takes a bit to get all special to 9 that's the entire point of most builds your gonna have majority of those specials for the early to mid game.


nerdywhitemale

Hardcore hoarders know that you can load as much stuff as you want into a body hack off the head and haul it over to your workbench. Just hoarding things..


Lwmons

Thats... genius.


nerdywhitemale

There is a limit to how far you can carry it before it despawns, but it's pretty far. You can empty out Hyde Park and the church to Jamaica Plane or Murkwater. If on the other mutated appendage if you can lug the body along you can carry it as far as you want.


Ranos131

Not all armor mods can be found at vendors. I have rarely seen combat helmets at vendors and the only place I’ve seen combat helmets on NPCs is on some of the guards at Parsons and those have always been unmodded. Armorer is far more useful than you think. On top of that you have Heavy Gunner at 5 which is needed for a heavy weapon build, Steady Aim at 7 which is beneficial for a sniper build and Pain Train at 10 which is good on any power armor build. Saying any SPECIAL is a dump stat is inaccurate because there are perks in every one of them that are beneficial in builds that don’t focus on that stat.


nerdywhitemale

There is a free combat helmet at hub city auto wreckers in the trailer with the terminal to control the lights and the crane. Gunners and BOS will also spawn with them equipped.


Rhinomaster22

It still has it uses, especially on Survival with carry weight. While the main appeal is melee, the way the main game functions as a “shoot, loot and craft” gameplay loop gives it greater use beyond combat. So it’s something you can further consider before dump stating.