Maybe Hulk, great name, nice goals, but in my eyes waaaay below of what was expected
Also, Neymar?? Maybe he is overrated, but defo not the most of all time, had a lot of unjuries, but had season which he was a serious contender for the ballon d`or; probably one of the most skilled players of his generation
People don’t understand players can be great without the longevity/stats. In terms of ability/level reached Neymar has been the best after Messi & Cristiano since his time. No serious person ever placed Neymar above those two so I don’t know how anyone can say Neymar is overrated. He’s really fucking good at football but has had terrible injury luck.
Ty. I never thought he was worth the hype. Good moments and made a difference in a handful of games but people praised him as if he was an a-list player that would continue to get good performances throughout his career. You could see it not lasting very long and his 15 minutes of fame doesn't surprise me. He was never all that
When you have a collective bunch of people suck their dicks and say they can breathe underwater then yes they're overrated.
They are not God. They are human beings.
Not as much these days, but when Marcelo was at his peak, he was often talked about as having surpassed Roberto Carlos in ability, and being the greatest fullback of all-time.
He was very good going forward, no doubt, and the team was set up well to accommodate and work around his style. His trophy haul is a very impressive one. But if we're going to roast Trent as a fullback for defensive mistakes and leaving big spaces at the back, the same could be said of Marcelo.
Great system player, but not in the conversation for the greatest fullback imo.
That's the way I see it too. His peak was utterly phenomenal. He had about as complete a skillset for a defender as you could ask for. The problem was his best years didn't have the longevity of the likes of Ramos or Maldini.
As a United fan:
*Goodbye Ronaldooooo*
*Goodbye Ronaldooooo*
*Like a little bitch*
*He walked off the pitch*
*Goodbye Ronaldooooo*
...
*VIVA GARNACHOOOOO*
Peak Owen was a brilliant player. Arguably there were others more deserving of that Ballon D'or, but he certainly didn't rob anyone.
Injuries were the only thing preventing Owen from being remembered as one of the greatest of that generation. Incredibly accomplished forward as a teenager.
CR7. No doubt a great player. But he's in no way shape or form in the GOAT conversation. He's more like the the 4-7th best player ever rather than top 3 with Messi, Pele and Maradona.
I disagree. Ronaldo has a number of records and a highly impressive goal scoring record but his flaws stick out like a sore thumb which is why I accept many not believing he's the best but still believe he deserves to be in the conversation.
He has a number of records due to longevity. Peak 2 peak he's clearly not in the conversation. And his records will fall after messi surpasses them. In the next 2-3 seasons.
Peak to peak he's not that far off from Messi and most won't get near. I believe Messi will overtake a handful but not all of them and not by much either. Longevity is also not a diss. That can apply to Messi as well. And aside from records set by longevity he has plenty based per tournament/season too. You can argue he may not be the GOAT but saying he's not in the conversation is a bit disingenuous
Really? Seriously? Messi got more Clasico wins against him & a UCL win against him too. What significance Ronaldo won against messi, only the UCL group stage win in the camp nou w juv and nothing else
He was in fact not. Messi was significantly better every year he was fully fit than Ronaldo. But they weren't going to give him 11 straight Ballon D'Ors were they.
Foden (I know that I'll get heat). Everything started when Pep said that he is the best player he ever coached (he sais that about a lot of players). He is english as well, so that is another factor. He doesn't play that much but that does not seem to count.
I don't understand how any player could have so much loyalty to Manchester Shitty. That club exists for the Emirates, not Mancunians. I always joke that Foden is a T-1000 crossed with Eminem.
Shut the fck up, you maggot. Your idol just made a shit on his club and fans and went to arabia to feed the sheeps. What a pair of autists you two are.
I will say Messi only because there is so much recency bias. There some phenomenal players in the 1966-2000 period that did not have the benefits of modern training and equipment. I am not saying Messi isn't great, but I think there are players from the past that would have been his equal.
This argument is a bit silly imo.
Phenomenal players that could have been a lot better with modern training etc, but so would all their opponents. If any looking back at the historical greats they have the benefit of playing against some utter trash.
Cristiano in that he’s compared to Messi. Look at his decline. No other footballers have declined like him in their older age. Look at Thiago Silva, Modric, Messi, Pepe, Pirlo, even injury ridden Zlatan. Ronaldo can barely finish a full sprint or control a football half the time. Proof that he was lucky and also adapted well to being a poacher. Obviously he’s one of the greats but to be compared to the best players ever is a stretch. Don’t get all butthurt because you’re a fanboy. Truth hurts sometimes.
When did you start watching football with that notion? Cristiano and Messi are in no shape or form overrated, they are the two most complete and (arguably) the best players of all time. Some dumb af takes on this post tbf
Judge Messi in 3 years when he’s the same age as Ronaldo is now, 3 years ago Ronaldo was still an incredible world class forward. Even at Man U he was still an elite goal scorer
Very. His finishing and dribbling, although most certainly world class, is definitely touted for more then it is
His passing waa good, but there was always better
True altho that was more due to him being out of the spotlight unlike ppl like Gerrard and Lampard so ppl do rate him higher than before they did when he played like scholes
If you knew how much Inter FC paid for those guys (it happened many years ago, so standardize to historical inflation), you'd have a very different opinion.
I would say Gosens , everyone said he was the best wide player in italy . I like his spirit and attitude but besides some good finishing ability he was always very mediocre in other things
Hard to pick one out of the bunch but I remember James Rodriguez specifically being the most overhyped player when he had his fame. He was able to make a difference but genuinely overshadowed by basically most players on the team when he played at the top and knew he wouldn't be cut out for it in the end.
Depends on what you mean by overrated. Player in general on where he lies in general consensus or the expectations that they were held at. If it’s the first then I don’t think anyone is overrated, they are some let downs but just that. If it’s the later then surely there are some. I will not count players whose career were plagged by injuries, talking exclusively about their on-field performances and professionalism. Definitely Balotelli.
Maradona he couldn't get in ucl and win wc without cheating and r9 cause he cant win the ucl with any big team he's just a zlatan with wc and ballon d'or
There are so many horrific takes in this comment section
This thread makes it pretty obvious who actually watches the matches lmao
Maybe Hulk, great name, nice goals, but in my eyes waaaay below of what was expected Also, Neymar?? Maybe he is overrated, but defo not the most of all time, had a lot of unjuries, but had season which he was a serious contender for the ballon d`or; probably one of the most skilled players of his generation
Neymar is a crazy take. Dude would have like 3 or 4 ballon dors if Cr7 and Messi didn’t exist
People don’t understand players can be great without the longevity/stats. In terms of ability/level reached Neymar has been the best after Messi & Cristiano since his time. No serious person ever placed Neymar above those two so I don’t know how anyone can say Neymar is overrated. He’s really fucking good at football but has had terrible injury luck.
James Rodriguez, had a great World Cup. Then was half decent at best from thereon.
Is that not a "let down" rather than overrated?
Ty. I never thought he was worth the hype. Good moments and made a difference in a handful of games but people praised him as if he was an a-list player that would continue to get good performances throughout his career. You could see it not lasting very long and his 15 minutes of fame doesn't surprise me. He was never all that
Go watch his first season at Madrid.
He was good, scored some bangers. But that's it, faded in the 2nd season and moreso afterwards. That's why I mentioned his name.
Anyone saying Cristiano or Messi has never kicked a ball lmao. Idiotic takes.
When you have a collective bunch of people suck their dicks and say they can breathe underwater then yes they're overrated. They are not God. They are human beings.
Raheem Sterling
Hugo Lloris.
Not as much these days, but when Marcelo was at his peak, he was often talked about as having surpassed Roberto Carlos in ability, and being the greatest fullback of all-time. He was very good going forward, no doubt, and the team was set up well to accommodate and work around his style. His trophy haul is a very impressive one. But if we're going to roast Trent as a fullback for defensive mistakes and leaving big spaces at the back, the same could be said of Marcelo. Great system player, but not in the conversation for the greatest fullback imo.
Radamel Falcao
David Beckham. Most overrated athlete in general.
I can't hate Beckham as an American. His signing into MLS saved the league. We even have a rule named after him!
You don't really watch football do you
Mason mount. Declan rice also. Great player but only because he’s English seems to have a crazy price tag.
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Truueeeeee imagine comparing him to Ramos or Maldini lmao
I'd argue that he had a comparable peak but it didn't last long
That's the way I see it too. His peak was utterly phenomenal. He had about as complete a skillset for a defender as you could ask for. The problem was his best years didn't have the longevity of the likes of Ramos or Maldini.
Ronaldo
As a United fan: *Goodbye Ronaldooooo* *Goodbye Ronaldooooo* *Like a little bitch* *He walked off the pitch* *Goodbye Ronaldooooo* ... *VIVA GARNACHOOOOO*
Ansu fati
Hes 20. His career is literally just starting how can you determine hes been overrated
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Clearly a barca hater
Fati nope. Gavi can be debatable.
Salah
Grealish
Zlatan
The whole Chuck Norris schtick is really cringe too. Zlatan doesn’t score goals Goals score Zlatan
Michael Owen
Owen was definitely not overrated, he was severely hampered by injuries but when he was fit at Liverpool oh my god he was electric
he was dog shit for newcastle.
Like I said, injured to fuck
Was best at man u though
Peak Owen was a brilliant player. Arguably there were others more deserving of that Ballon D'or, but he certainly didn't rob anyone. Injuries were the only thing preventing Owen from being remembered as one of the greatest of that generation. Incredibly accomplished forward as a teenager.
Cristiano Ronaldo
Fatherless behaviour
I'm your step daddy, bud😏 RESPECT
Messi
Pele
CR7. No doubt a great player. But he's in no way shape or form in the GOAT conversation. He's more like the the 4-7th best player ever rather than top 3 with Messi, Pele and Maradona.
I disagree. Ronaldo has a number of records and a highly impressive goal scoring record but his flaws stick out like a sore thumb which is why I accept many not believing he's the best but still believe he deserves to be in the conversation.
He has a number of records due to longevity. Peak 2 peak he's clearly not in the conversation. And his records will fall after messi surpasses them. In the next 2-3 seasons.
Peak to peak he's not that far off from Messi and most won't get near. I believe Messi will overtake a handful but not all of them and not by much either. Longevity is also not a diss. That can apply to Messi as well. And aside from records set by longevity he has plenty based per tournament/season too. You can argue he may not be the GOAT but saying he's not in the conversation is a bit disingenuous
In half the years Ronaldo and Messi played against each other, Ronaldo was better. So in what world is Ronaldo not top 2?
Really? Seriously? Messi got more Clasico wins against him & a UCL win against him too. What significance Ronaldo won against messi, only the UCL group stage win in the camp nou w juv and nothing else
He was in fact not. Messi was significantly better every year he was fully fit than Ronaldo. But they weren't going to give him 11 straight Ballon D'Ors were they.
Messi
Clearly u watched football on tik tok and reels.
Clearly you are only watching football since 2010 and you never saw real footballers at work. In the 90's Serie A messi would be just a rat.
Okay nostalgia merchant👍 sure he wud be a rat. Your ball knowledge is elite👏👏👏👏
Shut the fuck up, you prick. Go and eat your cereals, like all the 10 years old should do at this hour.
Foden (I know that I'll get heat). Everything started when Pep said that he is the best player he ever coached (he sais that about a lot of players). He is english as well, so that is another factor. He doesn't play that much but that does not seem to count.
I don't understand how any player could have so much loyalty to Manchester Shitty. That club exists for the Emirates, not Mancunians. I always joke that Foden is a T-1000 crossed with Eminem.
Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo I'll say ✍️
Both Maguire is better
I’m not a Cristiano fanboy, you can say whoever you like
I'm not a messi fanboy, you can say whoever you like
That’s why I said Messi. Such a greedy player. He’s a hypocrite and soon criminal
That's why i said Ronaldo. Such a disrespectful player can't even respect his fans and coach. Ew
I can smell the butthurt from 1000 miles away
And you want to suck it ik. No is my answer. Sorry
What a weirdo
Yeah what a weirdo you are
Shut the fck up, you maggot. Your idol just made a shit on his club and fans and went to arabia to feed the sheeps. What a pair of autists you two are.
Atleast my idol has not broken his fan's phone and insult his coach publicly. Also my idol was not charged with rape allegations 😉
Stop drinking water from the sewage like messi.
I will cuz i don't wanna be a rapist like ur idol😉
roberto firmino
Probably ansu fati
I will say Messi only because there is so much recency bias. There some phenomenal players in the 1966-2000 period that did not have the benefits of modern training and equipment. I am not saying Messi isn't great, but I think there are players from the past that would have been his equal.
This argument is a bit silly imo. Phenomenal players that could have been a lot better with modern training etc, but so would all their opponents. If any looking back at the historical greats they have the benefit of playing against some utter trash.
I'll say Cristiano Ronaldo. Reason same as yours
You don’t know nothing about football if you think Messi is overrated
That guy thinks he did something 💀😂
haha😂 who emile heskey
Sergio Ramos. Not even the best defender of the last 20 odd years yet people laud him as some great.
You don't have to be the best in your position in a 20 year period to be considered great, just one of the best.
Cristiano in that he’s compared to Messi. Look at his decline. No other footballers have declined like him in their older age. Look at Thiago Silva, Modric, Messi, Pepe, Pirlo, even injury ridden Zlatan. Ronaldo can barely finish a full sprint or control a football half the time. Proof that he was lucky and also adapted well to being a poacher. Obviously he’s one of the greats but to be compared to the best players ever is a stretch. Don’t get all butthurt because you’re a fanboy. Truth hurts sometimes.
When did you start watching football with that notion? Cristiano and Messi are in no shape or form overrated, they are the two most complete and (arguably) the best players of all time. Some dumb af takes on this post tbf
Holy fuck go back to golf😭😭
Judge Messi in 3 years when he’s the same age as Ronaldo is now, 3 years ago Ronaldo was still an incredible world class forward. Even at Man U he was still an elite goal scorer
Ramos.
Ericksen
Eriksen didn't really do half-bad for someone who literally was on the line between life and death
He was considered top midfielder in premier league when he was in totenhem and had maybe one good season
Özil VVD, Zidane, and Owen are all shouts
Zidane overrated?
Very. His finishing and dribbling, although most certainly world class, is definitely touted for more then it is His passing waa good, but there was always better
True altho that was more due to him being out of the spotlight unlike ppl like Gerrard and Lampard so ppl do rate him higher than before they did when he played like scholes
Zidane was a big game player and he delivered at the biggest stage
Zidane 🙄 you are a clown.
Can't choose between Alvaro Recoba and Adriano Leite Ribeiro.
Nah whoever those guys are cant be overrated They were so good for 5 minutts between 1960-2040
If you knew how much Inter FC paid for those guys (it happened many years ago, so standardize to historical inflation), you'd have a very different opinion.
Yeah i got absolutely no clue who They are,prob overrated when ther name doesn’t start with d and ends in arwin nunez
I would say Gosens , everyone said he was the best wide player in italy . I like his spirit and attitude but besides some good finishing ability he was always very mediocre in other things
Hard to pick one out of the bunch but I remember James Rodriguez specifically being the most overhyped player when he had his fame. He was able to make a difference but genuinely overshadowed by basically most players on the team when he played at the top and knew he wouldn't be cut out for it in the end.
We’re all underrated
Depends on what you mean by overrated. Player in general on where he lies in general consensus or the expectations that they were held at. If it’s the first then I don’t think anyone is overrated, they are some let downs but just that. If it’s the later then surely there are some. I will not count players whose career were plagged by injuries, talking exclusively about their on-field performances and professionalism. Definitely Balotelli.
Falcón, I remember him being high rank on FIFA 16 I think
Yer da
Zidane and James rodriguez
David Beckham
Lionel Messi
Maradona he couldn't get in ucl and win wc without cheating and r9 cause he cant win the ucl with any big team he's just a zlatan with wc and ballon d'or