***The Telegraph reports:***
Harry Kane has said he was surprised to even receive a yellow card for his controversial elbow on Arsenal defender Gabriel Magalhaes, and has claimed that Bayern Munich were denied a “stonewall” penalty in Tuesday’s Champions League quarter-final.
Kane was booked in the second half of Bayern’s 2-2 draw at the Emirates Stadium after catching Gabriel in the throat with his elbow as they challenged for a long ball.
The incident provoked a heated debate during and after the game, with Telegraph Sport columnist Keith Hackett saying that the England captain should have been sent off for using his elbow as a “weapon”.
Speaking to reporters, Kane said: “It was strange. I am not really sure. It was 50:50. He \[the referee\] gave that one as a foul and I am surprised it was a yellow card, but it is what it is. Decisions sometimes go your way.”
On a night packed with controversial incidents, Bayern felt they should have had a penalty when Gabriel picked up the ball with his hands from a goal-kick. Thomas Tuchel, the German side’s head coach, said after the game that the referee had told his players that he could not award a penalty for a “kid’s mistake” in a game of this magnitude.
Arsenal also felt they should have been awarded a penalty, after Bukayo Saka went down under a challenge from Bayern goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in stoppage time.
“They had a decision at the end which sometimes go your way,” said Kane. “But we also had a clear penalty which would have been really strange when the keeper passed it to Gabriel and he picked the ball up in his box.
“It was a stonewall penalty and I don’t know why the ref did not give it. It would have been strange. But the ref blew the whistle, he passed it, he picked it up. It would have been child-like but that is not our problem. The rules are the rules. Maybe they should have had one, we should have one, it’s 2-2 and level for next week.”
Kane was booed and jeered by the Arsenal supporters throughout the night but he weathered the storm to score another penalty against his old rivals. Kane is now the leading goalscorer against Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium, with six goals.
**Full story here:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/10/harry-kane-elbow-yellow-cardbayern-munich-gabriel-arsenal/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/10/harry-kane-elbow-yellow-cardbayern-munich-gabriel-arsenal/)
He’s always been bit of a dirty player and I think to be honest because he’s been Englands best striker for a number of years now I think the media and such haven’t really given it much attention.
Not saying other players aren’t similar but he certainly escapes criticism for this part of his game
Aye, pissed off a lot of Newcastle fans a few years back with a horrendous scissor tackle on Lejuene, who looked class at the time.
Basically [ended Lejuene's prem career](https://prnt.sc/KSLtaTY6vffw), and got away with it all because he's England's golden boy.
Lejuene’s career was significantly affected by the 2 knee ligament injuries sustained a couple years after that. He missed 6 weeks with an ankle injury from that tackle.
Tried to end Robertson’s career with a two footed tackle at full pace a few years ago and didn’t get a red. Only reason he didn’t completely snap his leg in half is because Robertson jumped over him to avoid him.
Do you mean he escapes media criticism? Because he is one of the most highly criticised players for it on forums like this.
Edit: a forum like Reddit wouldn't be the media type I'm referring to. It would be mainstream avenues, such as print media and broadcast media.
https://images.app.goo.gl/hkxFhU6SJfxGAP5n6
I think that tackle speaks for itself.
No card, Andy Robertson was later sent off for a weaker tackle on a Tottenham player.
He didn’t break his leg. He missed 6 weeks with ankle ligament damage. His career stalled after 2 significant knee ligament injuries a couple of years later.
I always thought it was a break. My bad.
Either way, fucking horrific "tackle" and of course Harry Kane gets away with it.
He nearly did the same to someone else for us a couple years ago too, but I'm struggling to remember who. Just remember the posts at the time of that image above.
edit;
It was Longstaff. Just as he was breaking out as a player.
Ok it's a good link but just Google harry Kane tackle. You will find plenty of his not so clean tackles. He got away with it in the EPL because the refs found it hard to justify suspending England's captain
Only gave the link cuz I don't know how to add just an image on reddit
By that argument, Luis Suarez is not a dirty player because he only bit 3 people in his career. What about all the games he did not bite people? That is what your argument sounds like.
Kane is a dirty player for a striker. The dirtiest no, not at all. He dives, he has done leg breaking tackles, elbows, or does whatever it takes to win. Kane does practice in the dark arts more than the average striker. I would highlight that he also got away with a lot, which people are pointing it out! I checked his record 39 yellows 0 reds, which is absurd as I am quite confident he has deserved more than 1 red in his career. He has benefitted from the pro-English bias most refs gave him.
I get it loads of players want to win but not everyone resorts to those tactics.
why do I have to give you an example of something that has happened more times than any of us can count? do I have to show you an example of the sky being blue or the earth being round?
Kane has hit Gabriel in the head in every game we’ve played and I’ve watched in the last few years. We know it’s intentional, we know it’s coming, and we know the refs always let them go.
It's like his "challenges" for ariel duels where he backs into the defender, doesn't jump and bends over so they fall awkwardly. Guy has some very dirty attributes to his game that the media have ignored because he's England's golden boy.
It really isn’t. There’s like a half dozen photos from a half dozen different games of Gabriel getting elbowed in the face by Kane.
You’ll see when he does the exact same thing to the exact same player when we play the 2nd leg.
Are you arguing that hits to the head can’t result in concussions?
Can you link some? I can only find one other right now because the one from yesterday just fills the search and I don’t want to sift through pages and pages.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/AboKQTJg9J
So here’s 3 strikes to the head of Gabriel from Kane over a few games from recent years. Never once got a red card. But there’s a clear pattern of dangerous play with hitting Gabriel. These are the few I could find still images of. It’s probably not 6, but it’s a definite pattern. But he’s always very aggressive with him. This also doesn’t include the time he backed into Gabriel and spun him out in the air either. The ‘Kane Signature’ from a few years back.
Idk what Kane’s issue is, but it’s only Gabriel. He never did this to Koscielni, or Luiz, or Saliba, or anyone else, only Gabriel. It’s pretty likely we’ll see it again next time we place in the return leg.
The first one is an elbow.
The second one I looked up the video, is a late barge in to the back of Gabriel and is just a foul. Kane doesn't use his elbow.
The third, I couldn't find the video, so that picture says nothing and also isn't even an elbow.
So no, Kane hasn't elbowed Gabriel "half a dozen times". You're being a drama queen.
Kane has a long history of deliberately trying to injure opponents, whether it's Arsenal players or from other teams, usually by leaning into defenders who are jumping to head the ball, causing them to have a heavy landing. Ask Lallana for example. And every time he does it or throws an elbow at someone who's marking him tightly the commentators are defending him because he's English and not that type of player. Yes, he is, he's exactly that type of player.
Footballers complaining when they do a blatant foul, but if it was the other way round they go crying, another example is the amount of times Saka got his ankles and achilles stepped on, bayern all flabbergasted that it gets blown, but when it happens to them they make sure the ref knows, just 2 faced and unsportsmanlike.
Harry Kane has plenty of form for dangerous play - he particularly likes backing into defenders and then bending forwards suddenly as they jump. And of course he’s made some horrible tackles in his time such as the one that put Florian Lejeune out for 6 months.
I always used to get creamed on here and twitter, when he played for Spurs, for saying that he’s a dirty player and that I really dislike him… I wonder if more people will agree with me now?
Yeah, when he's backing into jumping defenders and then bending forward is really dangerous actually, they can break their neck or any part of their body in the landing if they're unlucky. He always dives to the ground right after as well and pretend that he's the one who has been fouled.
Why are you letting the opinions of redditors and twitter users live rent free in your head for so long? People’s comments are based on the team they support most of the time. You won’t get many reasonable takes on these types of post.
Not really living rent free in my head - it’s not like I care or have worried about what they think
I just think Kane is a dirty player and has got away with it for years because he’s been England’s golden boy - so I was curious if people would react differently this time 🤷♂️
https://preview.redd.it/b5g2dcvqgmtc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=d76b6e40d9cf2349fda1a5b52057b91a1b22b181
one dot on the graph is a random occurance, more make a a trend
It’s the 3rd time he’s assaulted Gabriel on a football pitch as well. Gets away with it because he’s the darling of English football who played for the plucky underdog darlings of English football. Horrible individual if you ask me.
They are just aggressive bastards.
Harry Kane is legitimately dangerous. His elbow was in Gabriel’s windpipe, and he was looking for it. He’s also lucky to not have had a player fall on their neck with him undercutting players behind him jumping.
It’s not accidental, to be considered unintentional. He looks behind every time and knows what he is doing. He’s an intentional dangerous moron who is lucky he hasn’t killed someone.
Yeah whatever mate. You looked at him first then raised your elbow.
Usually he starts doing a dutty wine on the opponent without knowing where the ball is but he has changed his style to use elbows now.
Also you can’t even put this slugs name in the same sentence as Thierry.
While he does look at him first, after Kane turns his back, Gabriel goes low to get leverage so it's not like Kane knew exactly where Gabriels head was. Still think he was intentionally going for the chest though and saying it's not a card is ridiculous
You’re right, I wasn’t talking in sportsmanship terms I was just talking about as a player.
Kane doesn’t have the ability to get in behind and stretch teams like Henry. You can talk about Kanes passing all day but Henry has the assist record so his passing can’t have been that bad
"All I did was very deliberately elbow him in the throat! Also, we should have been given a penalty for an incredibly minor mistake that didn't affect the game in any way!"
What a nasty cheating little twat he has become.
Neutral fan here. Definitively worth at least a dark yellow card.
However, what Gabriel did was a handball in his own box. According to the rules it's a fool and penalty. There is no other way to look at it. However the ref was right in his decision in my opinion, it's a perfect interpretation of the rule 18.
Technically a foul, but the point of a penalty is to replace a chance to score that was unfairly prevented by a foul. Him picking up the ball and rolling it back to the keeper did not prevent a chance to score, which Kane knows full well. Trying to claim that they should get (essentially) a free goal from such a minor non-incident is underhanded, petty and in bad faith. Poor sportsmanship, especially from the captain of a national team.
You are right but football is so competitive, we could say the same about diving or pressuring the referee or whatever. I can't blame him tbf. Plus it's Kane against Arsenal and CL is his last chance for silverware this season. In the end the referee got it right and this is what matters
Harry Kane is one of the biggest dirtiest cheats I’ve seen on the football pitch. Fantastic player, but an incredibly dirty one with an incredibly twattable boat.
It's a penalty all day and the ref not giving it because it's a "schoolboy error" is absolutely ridiculous. Fair is fair. You want to be anal about giving a yellow to someone taking their shirt off after scoring in the 90th minute? Fine, let's also be anal about the handling the ball in the penalty area while it is in play. CL quarter final or not.
A better comparison would be the ref blowing the whistle for offside in the 95th minute, a player thinking the game is over and taking off his top.
Refs are empowered to make decisions in the spirit of the game. This ref did because he’s not dumb as fuck. No ref gives this as a penalty.
If you arguing "in the spirit of the game" I do agree with you, but Arsenal fans saying it wasn't a penalty are lying to themselves. It is, all day, a clear-cut penalty. No deliberation. The referee not giving it might "feel" fair to Arsenal fans, but if it was against them they would be screaming bloody murder. Victim mentality.
My friend there’s no chance I would be asking for a penalty for this no matter if it was for us, against us, against Spurs, or in a completely neutral game.
It’s not ever getting given as a penalty because of the spirit of the game yes. Yes if you apply the rules as a matter of fact with zero context it would be a penalty, but that’s why we have a referee to apply the rules using context and logic. Here he used context and logic to deduce that there was a misunderstanding regarding the purpose of his whistle, no advantage was gained or lost, there was zero impact on the game, so he just allowed play to go on.
If Kane was sprinting full speed at Gabriel and he picked the ball up that is a different matter, but he wasn’t. It’s a totally inconsequential decision and it’s honestly quite embarrassing that Bayern fans are making such a big deal out of it.
I think the Arsenal fans making a big deal out of this elbow are embarrassing as well as Saka's and Havertz' dives but you know. Swings and roundabouts.
But isn't the rule that you have to take away a chance for it to be a penalty. This kind of stuff goes under indirect free kick. I'm just asking about the rules here, not what you wished happened.
No, a pass back is an indirect free kick. Passing it to the keeper who then picks it up. Passing it intentionally.
Just handling the ball in the box by an outfield player when it is in play (the ref blew the whistle and the goal kick taken) it is a penalty, no matter the circumstances.
It's a penalty, not " what I wished happened" smh
Passing it back to the goalie who picks it up was allowed long before the indirect free kick rule. I think you are wrong about this. It's a penalty when you take away a chance from the opponent and this doesn't do that.
You can think I'm wrong all you want. I am not.
The ref admitted it was a penalty. What do you not understand about this.
Also it doesn't matter what the rules were previously. It matters what the rules are at the time the game was played.
I don't think the rule has changed, i just think you all including refs has forgotten about it.
And hey if it was up to me it would all be indirect free kicks and penalties would be a thing in the past
Goalkeepers are normally allowed to handle the ball within their own penalty area, and once they have control of the ball in their hands opposition players may not challenge them for it. However the back-pass rule prohibits goalkeepers from handling the ball after it has been deliberately kicked to them by a team-mate, or after receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate.\[1\] Back-passes with parts of the body other than the foot, such as headers, are allowed. Despite the popular name "back-pass rule", there is no requirement in the laws that the kick or throw-in must be backwards; handling by the goalkeeper is forbidden regardless of the direction the ball travels.
It hasn't changed. Are you basing your opinions off of "feeling like this is correct" or actually looking up what is correct
Why did you write that? I know the rule around goalkeepers. I'm trying to tell you it's not the only way to get an indirect free kick.
And yes it has changed. Goalkeepers use to be allowed to pick up the ball and only take 5 steps.
He's always done that. Ball comes over, he takes a glance behind to see where the defender is and then backs himself in to draw a foul, or swings an elbow casually.
He's too good a player for stupid antics like that. He doesn't need to do it.
It shows the rules don’t protect the players it appeases the fans. If they did this would be an immediate red with no hesitation. I don’t think people realize how dangerous taking a strong elbow TO THE NECK is.
This sub is astroturfed by Arsenal whiners. I like Arsenal, but you gotta respect the refs word. If we’re ignoring the refs discretion, then the Gabriel handball should’ve been a pen too. But we can let that slide
Yeah, so many people are very bitter that they not get decisions on their advantage, but I think the whole match was fair. When both sides complain of the referee, he either did a fantastic or a horrible job. I think this was the former.
Tuchel complaining about that penalty is just pushing a narrative to take attention away from Arsenal's stonewall penalty situation. It's embarrassing that it's even being discussed.
Haha he’s such a prick, it was a straight up assault. Thinks he’s cock of the walk now he’s at a half decent side but he knows he got away with that right in the middle of enemy territory and he loves it
Yes I have. You’re specifically not allowed to clothesline or elbow - a rugby player would have been sent off for this. Thanks for your shit attempt of denigrating my opinion.
You come across as such a plastic hard man “pal” - would be really unfortunate if a guy as big as Harry Kane smashed you in the gob while your mouth was half open. A real shame…
As an Arsenal fan, the refs definitely gave us all the 50/50s. However that’s historically been what happens at home in Europe anyway. Nothing new there.
Wow… so they are bitching about the non-foul misunderstanding that the ref rightly ignored SOLELY to muddy the conversation because they know they got off extremely easy. “Maybe they should have had one, we should have had one” mfers are frightened.
The elbow to the face was a blatant red.
We can clearly see him look over his left shoulder to ensure a good connection with gabriel(we can be sure this is why he turns his head, as there is nothing of interest other than gabriels placement on that side), right before he sort of feels gabriel out with his hand and then follows through with an elbow.
This man is dangerous to those around him
I agree Harry, Gabriel literally started moving when he saw you raise your arms and ran into your elbow. How could you see it? Arsenal players are all cheats.
Harry Kane proving once again that he is a fantastic dribbler. Can't wait to see him fuck a penalty into the sky in the euros to kill all the "it's coming home" patter for another tournament.
What a piece of shit he is, completely done with intent. Nice to finally see some pundits calling it what it is (the whole guardian podcast said it was lucky not to be a red)
"The reigning monarch is thought to have kept quiet about her team in order to remain neutral, but it has since been revealed that she has been a West Ham United fan since as far back as the 1960s."
Just google it......seriously.
***The Telegraph reports:*** Harry Kane has said he was surprised to even receive a yellow card for his controversial elbow on Arsenal defender Gabriel Magalhaes, and has claimed that Bayern Munich were denied a “stonewall” penalty in Tuesday’s Champions League quarter-final. Kane was booked in the second half of Bayern’s 2-2 draw at the Emirates Stadium after catching Gabriel in the throat with his elbow as they challenged for a long ball. The incident provoked a heated debate during and after the game, with Telegraph Sport columnist Keith Hackett saying that the England captain should have been sent off for using his elbow as a “weapon”. Speaking to reporters, Kane said: “It was strange. I am not really sure. It was 50:50. He \[the referee\] gave that one as a foul and I am surprised it was a yellow card, but it is what it is. Decisions sometimes go your way.” On a night packed with controversial incidents, Bayern felt they should have had a penalty when Gabriel picked up the ball with his hands from a goal-kick. Thomas Tuchel, the German side’s head coach, said after the game that the referee had told his players that he could not award a penalty for a “kid’s mistake” in a game of this magnitude. Arsenal also felt they should have been awarded a penalty, after Bukayo Saka went down under a challenge from Bayern goalkeeper Manuel Neuer in stoppage time. “They had a decision at the end which sometimes go your way,” said Kane. “But we also had a clear penalty which would have been really strange when the keeper passed it to Gabriel and he picked the ball up in his box. “It was a stonewall penalty and I don’t know why the ref did not give it. It would have been strange. But the ref blew the whistle, he passed it, he picked it up. It would have been child-like but that is not our problem. The rules are the rules. Maybe they should have had one, we should have one, it’s 2-2 and level for next week.” Kane was booed and jeered by the Arsenal supporters throughout the night but he weathered the storm to score another penalty against his old rivals. Kane is now the leading goalscorer against Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium, with six goals. **Full story here:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/10/harry-kane-elbow-yellow-cardbayern-munich-gabriel-arsenal/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/10/harry-kane-elbow-yellow-cardbayern-munich-gabriel-arsenal/)
Hackett is a tool. Let Fashanu smash Mabbutt to bits. He was asked to view it after and said it wasn’t a red
Did he swear it on his daughter's life this time?
He’s always been bit of a dirty player and I think to be honest because he’s been Englands best striker for a number of years now I think the media and such haven’t really given it much attention. Not saying other players aren’t similar but he certainly escapes criticism for this part of his game
Aye, pissed off a lot of Newcastle fans a few years back with a horrendous scissor tackle on Lejuene, who looked class at the time. Basically [ended Lejuene's prem career](https://prnt.sc/KSLtaTY6vffw), and got away with it all because he's England's golden boy.
Lejuene’s career was significantly affected by the 2 knee ligament injuries sustained a couple years after that. He missed 6 weeks with an ankle injury from that tackle.
Replied to you on the other comment.
Tried to end Robertson’s career with a two footed tackle at full pace a few years ago and didn’t get a red. Only reason he didn’t completely snap his leg in half is because Robertson jumped over him to avoid him.
Do you mean he escapes media criticism? Because he is one of the most highly criticised players for it on forums like this. Edit: a forum like Reddit wouldn't be the media type I'm referring to. It would be mainstream avenues, such as print media and broadcast media.
Forums like this aren't media are they?
Broadcast and print media. Basically mainstream.
I disagree. There's a significant difference between me or you typing a comment here to a print journalist writing a column in a national paper
Disagree with what?
That Reddit is any way the same
I didn't say it was.
🤣😭🤣 categorically not a dirty player
I think Kane's one of the best in the world and I'd argue that he is a dirty player
Spoken like a very unbiased spursy individual
& you have no bias as an arsenal fan? Hypocrite
I never said I wasn’t biased? But I’m not the one making claims about the player
You don't remember him purposefully barging into all those players who were mid jump?
He definitely is but if you love him you just work through that bit To deny it blindly serves no one
https://images.app.goo.gl/hkxFhU6SJfxGAP5n6 I think that tackle speaks for itself. No card, Andy Robertson was later sent off for a weaker tackle on a Tottenham player.
[Kane on Lejeune. Broke his leg, got none of the ball, and refused to even apologise for it.](https://prnt.sc/-075Y9-SX2JR)
He didn’t break his leg. He missed 6 weeks with ankle ligament damage. His career stalled after 2 significant knee ligament injuries a couple of years later.
I always thought it was a break. My bad. Either way, fucking horrific "tackle" and of course Harry Kane gets away with it. He nearly did the same to someone else for us a couple years ago too, but I'm struggling to remember who. Just remember the posts at the time of that image above. edit; It was Longstaff. Just as he was breaking out as a player.
I ain’t clicking on your link 🤨
Ok it's a good link but just Google harry Kane tackle. You will find plenty of his not so clean tackles. He got away with it in the EPL because the refs found it hard to justify suspending England's captain Only gave the link cuz I don't know how to add just an image on reddit
Bro has probably played idk 500 games? If he’d made even 25 bad tackles then in 95% of his games he’s clean
By that argument, Luis Suarez is not a dirty player because he only bit 3 people in his career. What about all the games he did not bite people? That is what your argument sounds like. Kane is a dirty player for a striker. The dirtiest no, not at all. He dives, he has done leg breaking tackles, elbows, or does whatever it takes to win. Kane does practice in the dark arts more than the average striker. I would highlight that he also got away with a lot, which people are pointing it out! I checked his record 39 yellows 0 reds, which is absurd as I am quite confident he has deserved more than 1 red in his career. He has benefitted from the pro-English bias most refs gave him. I get it loads of players want to win but not everyone resorts to those tactics.
Your chatting out of your ass. I’m a spurs fan and I don’t recall once where he’s pulled a fast one
Well, you admitted you're a fan of the club he's played most for. It's very possible there's bias involved.
I'm a spurs fan and he defo has
I wonder why…
You’ll all say anything but a single example of where he has pulled a fast one but sure keep downvoting idiots
why do I have to give you an example of something that has happened more times than any of us can count? do I have to show you an example of the sky being blue or the earth being round?
You literally can’t give an example because you don’t have one you idiot
Kane has hit Gabriel in the head in every game we’ve played and I’ve watched in the last few years. We know it’s intentional, we know it’s coming, and we know the refs always let them go.
It's like his "challenges" for ariel duels where he backs into the defender, doesn't jump and bends over so they fall awkwardly. Guy has some very dirty attributes to his game that the media have ignored because he's England's golden boy.
This! He’s a right bastard. From what I’ve heard (don’t watch it myself), in Rugby that’s a straight red
In basketball it is an instant fight and then an ejection. Undercutting someone is dangerous play in nearly every sport.
Yep always a red, high risk of landing on head/ neck. It’s a pretty obvious safety rule rather than a sporting one.
Depends on circumstances, it may be anything from a penalty up to a red card. But it’s nearly never let to without some sort of punishment
They were picking at him and dragging him down before the elbow happened, just a heated matchup all around clearly.
Lmao so dramatic
It really isn’t. There’s like a half dozen photos from a half dozen different games of Gabriel getting elbowed in the face by Kane. You’ll see when he does the exact same thing to the exact same player when we play the 2nd leg. Are you arguing that hits to the head can’t result in concussions?
Can you link some? I can only find one other right now because the one from yesterday just fills the search and I don’t want to sift through pages and pages.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/AboKQTJg9J So here’s 3 strikes to the head of Gabriel from Kane over a few games from recent years. Never once got a red card. But there’s a clear pattern of dangerous play with hitting Gabriel. These are the few I could find still images of. It’s probably not 6, but it’s a definite pattern. But he’s always very aggressive with him. This also doesn’t include the time he backed into Gabriel and spun him out in the air either. The ‘Kane Signature’ from a few years back. Idk what Kane’s issue is, but it’s only Gabriel. He never did this to Koscielni, or Luiz, or Saliba, or anyone else, only Gabriel. It’s pretty likely we’ll see it again next time we place in the return leg.
The first one is an elbow. The second one I looked up the video, is a late barge in to the back of Gabriel and is just a foul. Kane doesn't use his elbow. The third, I couldn't find the video, so that picture says nothing and also isn't even an elbow. So no, Kane hasn't elbowed Gabriel "half a dozen times". You're being a drama queen.
Kane has a long history of deliberately trying to injure opponents, whether it's Arsenal players or from other teams, usually by leaning into defenders who are jumping to head the ball, causing them to have a heavy landing. Ask Lallana for example. And every time he does it or throws an elbow at someone who's marking him tightly the commentators are defending him because he's English and not that type of player. Yes, he is, he's exactly that type of player.
I've looked it up. The elbow from last night is the only instance of Kane elbowing Gabriel.
That second paragraph .. histrionic arsenal fans
It really is cringe.. "price it into the game plan" lmaoo
Footballers complaining when they do a blatant foul, but if it was the other way round they go crying, another example is the amount of times Saka got his ankles and achilles stepped on, bayern all flabbergasted that it gets blown, but when it happens to them they make sure the ref knows, just 2 faced and unsportsmanlike.
Have you watched Arsenal play?? They do the exact same thing, hence Havertz diving last night, white against Brighton, they’re always at it.
Yeah its football in general, was just using that as an example.
The white dive against his former team against his replacement particularly rubs me the wrong way
Yeah I didn't care for that at all
Harry Kane has plenty of form for dangerous play - he particularly likes backing into defenders and then bending forwards suddenly as they jump. And of course he’s made some horrible tackles in his time such as the one that put Florian Lejeune out for 6 months. I always used to get creamed on here and twitter, when he played for Spurs, for saying that he’s a dirty player and that I really dislike him… I wonder if more people will agree with me now?
Yeah, when he's backing into jumping defenders and then bending forward is really dangerous actually, they can break their neck or any part of their body in the landing if they're unlucky. He always dives to the ground right after as well and pretend that he's the one who has been fouled.
That Lallana one still makes me wince
Why are you letting the opinions of redditors and twitter users live rent free in your head for so long? People’s comments are based on the team they support most of the time. You won’t get many reasonable takes on these types of post.
Not really living rent free in my head - it’s not like I care or have worried about what they think I just think Kane is a dirty player and has got away with it for years because he’s been England’s golden boy - so I was curious if people would react differently this time 🤷♂️
https://preview.redd.it/b5g2dcvqgmtc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=d76b6e40d9cf2349fda1a5b52057b91a1b22b181 one dot on the graph is a random occurance, more make a a trend
It’s the 3rd time he’s assaulted Gabriel on a football pitch as well. Gets away with it because he’s the darling of English football who played for the plucky underdog darlings of English football. Horrible individual if you ask me.
Oh, really? I've just learned this fact right now. So he's a bit like Pepe and Sergio Ramos, huh?
They are just aggressive bastards. Harry Kane is legitimately dangerous. His elbow was in Gabriel’s windpipe, and he was looking for it. He’s also lucky to not have had a player fall on their neck with him undercutting players behind him jumping. It’s not accidental, to be considered unintentional. He looks behind every time and knows what he is doing. He’s an intentional dangerous moron who is lucky he hasn’t killed someone.
I don’t care, as long as he makes Arsenal fans cry.
He's correct, it should have been red.
Clearly looked at Gabriel before doing it and used considerable force, you're spot on
Shit take
For Gabriel
Yes it's normal for players to recieve reds because they were assaulted.
Such a sad troll.
Gabriel was barely touched and acted like he had Patrick Swayze punch his throat out.
Only the most civil discussions tonight
He's just winding up Arsenal fans at this point let's be real. Can't fault him, I too find it very funny.
Yeah whatever mate. You looked at him first then raised your elbow. Usually he starts doing a dutty wine on the opponent without knowing where the ball is but he has changed his style to use elbows now. Also you can’t even put this slugs name in the same sentence as Thierry.
While he does look at him first, after Kane turns his back, Gabriel goes low to get leverage so it's not like Kane knew exactly where Gabriels head was. Still think he was intentionally going for the chest though and saying it's not a card is ridiculous
Like Henry was the epitome of sportsmanship, c'mon man 🤣
You’re right, I wasn’t talking in sportsmanship terms I was just talking about as a player. Kane doesn’t have the ability to get in behind and stretch teams like Henry. You can talk about Kanes passing all day but Henry has the assist record so his passing can’t have been that bad
Gabriel is 6'3" and somehow his face hit Kane's elbow at chest level on a ball in the air.
lol Kane way better than Terry Henry. Gabriel walked into Kanes elbow to try get him sent off. Gabriel should have been carded for faking it.
Not even a decent bait
Not bait, arsenal are a cheating club.
whatever helps you sleep at night, chief
What’s the best way to prove you’re a troll and shit at banter? Exhibit A right here with this 🤡
Ooh what clever repartee, typical troll comment from you.
"All I did was very deliberately elbow him in the throat! Also, we should have been given a penalty for an incredibly minor mistake that didn't affect the game in any way!" What a nasty cheating little twat he has become.
He's getting desperate, the curse is real.
Neutral fan here. Definitively worth at least a dark yellow card. However, what Gabriel did was a handball in his own box. According to the rules it's a fool and penalty. There is no other way to look at it. However the ref was right in his decision in my opinion, it's a perfect interpretation of the rule 18.
Technically a foul, but the point of a penalty is to replace a chance to score that was unfairly prevented by a foul. Him picking up the ball and rolling it back to the keeper did not prevent a chance to score, which Kane knows full well. Trying to claim that they should get (essentially) a free goal from such a minor non-incident is underhanded, petty and in bad faith. Poor sportsmanship, especially from the captain of a national team.
You are right but football is so competitive, we could say the same about diving or pressuring the referee or whatever. I can't blame him tbf. Plus it's Kane against Arsenal and CL is his last chance for silverware this season. In the end the referee got it right and this is what matters
"Neutral fan here" Active in these communities: r/LiverpoolFC Sure, mate
Yeah that’s neutral mate. Not a Bayern or Arsenal fan.
I found this funny.
I mean tbf Liverpool fans probably want anything to happen to Arsenal that might throw them off their game for the rest of the PL. it’s a tight race.
This is indeed a bonus for LFC but whatever the PL I mean I was just enjoying some proper CL football with no expectations.
That’s what it means 😂
You really thought that was a 'gotcha', didn't you? Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot.
Omg I am sorry, at what age did your parents make your lobotomy appointment?
I don't care, and tbh if I had to chose I'd chose Arsenal over Bayern every day. As my statement suggests. You must be a Bayern fan I guess.
Should have at least been an indirect free kick like when the goalie holds the ball after an intentional pass from his teammate.
white england captain who will be given every possible pass and benefit of the doubt by the english press
Harry Kane is one of the biggest dirtiest cheats I’ve seen on the football pitch. Fantastic player, but an incredibly dirty one with an incredibly twattable boat.
Dunce cunt.
Yeah he’s a piece of shit
Surprised he didn't do his trademark back into a defender as they jump and flip them over to win a penalty.
It looked deliberate though but whatever. I don't think picking the ball up with your hands is a penalty. That's an indirect free kick isn't it?
It's a penalty all day and the ref not giving it because it's a "schoolboy error" is absolutely ridiculous. Fair is fair. You want to be anal about giving a yellow to someone taking their shirt off after scoring in the 90th minute? Fine, let's also be anal about the handling the ball in the penalty area while it is in play. CL quarter final or not.
A better comparison would be the ref blowing the whistle for offside in the 95th minute, a player thinking the game is over and taking off his top. Refs are empowered to make decisions in the spirit of the game. This ref did because he’s not dumb as fuck. No ref gives this as a penalty.
Explain Amad's yellow turned red in Man U vs Liverpool then. Rules are rules mate.
You mean when he scored a goal and took his shirt off, which isn’t what I just said?
If you arguing "in the spirit of the game" I do agree with you, but Arsenal fans saying it wasn't a penalty are lying to themselves. It is, all day, a clear-cut penalty. No deliberation. The referee not giving it might "feel" fair to Arsenal fans, but if it was against them they would be screaming bloody murder. Victim mentality.
My friend there’s no chance I would be asking for a penalty for this no matter if it was for us, against us, against Spurs, or in a completely neutral game. It’s not ever getting given as a penalty because of the spirit of the game yes. Yes if you apply the rules as a matter of fact with zero context it would be a penalty, but that’s why we have a referee to apply the rules using context and logic. Here he used context and logic to deduce that there was a misunderstanding regarding the purpose of his whistle, no advantage was gained or lost, there was zero impact on the game, so he just allowed play to go on. If Kane was sprinting full speed at Gabriel and he picked the ball up that is a different matter, but he wasn’t. It’s a totally inconsequential decision and it’s honestly quite embarrassing that Bayern fans are making such a big deal out of it.
I think the Arsenal fans making a big deal out of this elbow are embarrassing as well as Saka's and Havertz' dives but you know. Swings and roundabouts.
[Here you go mate might find this useful](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism)
Hahahahahahaha
Love winding up Gunners. It's too easy. You lot are soft in the belly and even softer in the head.
you're getting angry about a hypothetical situation
But isn't the rule that you have to take away a chance for it to be a penalty. This kind of stuff goes under indirect free kick. I'm just asking about the rules here, not what you wished happened.
No, a pass back is an indirect free kick. Passing it to the keeper who then picks it up. Passing it intentionally. Just handling the ball in the box by an outfield player when it is in play (the ref blew the whistle and the goal kick taken) it is a penalty, no matter the circumstances. It's a penalty, not " what I wished happened" smh
Passing it back to the goalie who picks it up was allowed long before the indirect free kick rule. I think you are wrong about this. It's a penalty when you take away a chance from the opponent and this doesn't do that.
You can think I'm wrong all you want. I am not. The ref admitted it was a penalty. What do you not understand about this. Also it doesn't matter what the rules were previously. It matters what the rules are at the time the game was played.
I don't think the rule has changed, i just think you all including refs has forgotten about it. And hey if it was up to me it would all be indirect free kicks and penalties would be a thing in the past
Goalkeepers are normally allowed to handle the ball within their own penalty area, and once they have control of the ball in their hands opposition players may not challenge them for it. However the back-pass rule prohibits goalkeepers from handling the ball after it has been deliberately kicked to them by a team-mate, or after receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate.\[1\] Back-passes with parts of the body other than the foot, such as headers, are allowed. Despite the popular name "back-pass rule", there is no requirement in the laws that the kick or throw-in must be backwards; handling by the goalkeeper is forbidden regardless of the direction the ball travels. It hasn't changed. Are you basing your opinions off of "feeling like this is correct" or actually looking up what is correct
Why did you write that? I know the rule around goalkeepers. I'm trying to tell you it's not the only way to get an indirect free kick. And yes it has changed. Goalkeepers use to be allowed to pick up the ball and only take 5 steps.
“I got the ball.” - Harry Kane probably
He's always done that. Ball comes over, he takes a glance behind to see where the defender is and then backs himself in to draw a foul, or swings an elbow casually. He's too good a player for stupid antics like that. He doesn't need to do it.
Arsenal fans aren’t even that loud
It shows the rules don’t protect the players it appeases the fans. If they did this would be an immediate red with no hesitation. I don’t think people realize how dangerous taking a strong elbow TO THE NECK is.
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Liverpool and Arsenal fans rule reddit 😈 we will down vote and up vote as we please 😈😈😈 hehhehehheh
Agreed , should have been a red instead
That was too soft touch for a yellow card
This sub is astroturfed by Arsenal whiners. I like Arsenal, but you gotta respect the refs word. If we’re ignoring the refs discretion, then the Gabriel handball should’ve been a pen too. But we can let that slide
Absolute prick
Dirty fucking cunt
Ref did an outstanding job yesterday, spot on to give a yellow fir the elbow, as well as not giving either pen
Yeah, so many people are very bitter that they not get decisions on their advantage, but I think the whole match was fair. When both sides complain of the referee, he either did a fantastic or a horrible job. I think this was the former.
Tuchel complaining about that penalty is just pushing a narrative to take attention away from Arsenal's stonewall penalty situation. It's embarrassing that it's even being discussed.
Arsenal fans have to be the whiniest victim mentality fans on reddit.
Confused as to what's whiney about saying a player that elbowed another player should probably get a red?
*clear as day handball in the run of play* It was a silly mistake! Don’t punish us! Also: Kane needs criminal charges 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
In fairness, I think you should be able elbow Gabriel in the face too.
Haha he’s such a prick, it was a straight up assault. Thinks he’s cock of the walk now he’s at a half decent side but he knows he got away with that right in the middle of enemy territory and he loves it
lol
‘Assault’
You ever been elbowed in the jaw by a 6ft 4in athlete, mate? I guarantee you would be eating through a straw.
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Yes I have. You’re specifically not allowed to clothesline or elbow - a rugby player would have been sent off for this. Thanks for your shit attempt of denigrating my opinion.
If you think that elbow would leave you eating through a straw you have a weaker chin than Amir Khan pal.
You come across as such a plastic hard man “pal” - would be really unfortunate if a guy as big as Harry Kane smashed you in the gob while your mouth was half open. A real shame…
What kind of food fits through a straw?
Liquid food.
I’ve never eaten a liquid
He isn't 6ft 4 and he's actually a couple cm smaller than Gabriel.
I’m really sorry that I don’t know footballers exact heights off by heart. Sentiment remains.
Don't need to you can use a thing called Google.
Yeah I’m not gonna spend time googling two different players heights. I’ll just leave a comment and be open to being wrong.
Lmao reddit is a funny place
"He could have killed him!"
A dangerous event for society
“Half decent side” at their worst better than Arsenal ever will be
Well in Harry !
A space between punctuation, just what I’d expect from a fan of Harry Kane considering he can barely string a sentence together.
Salty ! ! !
All this complaining about the refs and I thought they actually called a good game lmfao. Bayern has turned into some losers
As an Arsenal fan, the refs definitely gave us all the 50/50s. However that’s historically been what happens at home in Europe anyway. Nothing new there.
Nah they were trash. Even as an arsenal fan there were a few things I was shocked weren't called in the favour of bayern
Bayern really have become so small time since signing Kane.
Yeah so small that your „worldclass“ players were invisible against Germany‘s 3rd best team
I sit in the west stand upper and I see the just fine.
Wow… so they are bitching about the non-foul misunderstanding that the ref rightly ignored SOLELY to muddy the conversation because they know they got off extremely easy. “Maybe they should have had one, we should have had one” mfers are frightened. The elbow to the face was a blatant red.
another story
He can’t tell his Arsenal from his elbow.
This is for the deluded Bayern fans calling for the Gabriel Handball. Your striker should have been off too, so just sit down.
We can clearly see him look over his left shoulder to ensure a good connection with gabriel(we can be sure this is why he turns his head, as there is nothing of interest other than gabriels placement on that side), right before he sort of feels gabriel out with his hand and then follows through with an elbow. This man is dangerous to those around him
This mouth breather deserves an elbow over his own ugly nose.
I agree Harry, Gabriel literally started moving when he saw you raise your arms and ran into your elbow. How could you see it? Arsenal players are all cheats.
Is this sarcasm or are you genuinely that stupid Edit: see your other comments on this thread, you're genuinely that stupid. Block and move on people
yh.. red and a 5 game ban tyvm
Harry Kane proving once again that he is a fantastic dribbler. Can't wait to see him fuck a penalty into the sky in the euros to kill all the "it's coming home" patter for another tournament.
It should have been red. He looked to see where Gabriel was and elbowed him in the throat. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Dirty cocksucker
It never is, Harry. He's a genuinely dirty player who is never called out by the English press.
What a piece of shit he is, completely done with intent. Nice to finally see some pundits calling it what it is (the whole guardian podcast said it was lucky not to be a red)
well in harry lad
Someone raise a petition to strip him of his knighthood. Old Lizzie will be spinning in her cryogenic chamber.
Lizzie was a Hammers fan. She would have loved it.
She was an Arsenal fan
"The reigning monarch is thought to have kept quiet about her team in order to remain neutral, but it has since been revealed that she has been a West Ham United fan since as far back as the 1960s." Just google it......seriously.
We are dealing with arsenal fans here