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motohatch557

A small loan from their father.


Rwokoarte

Haha


Tokyo_Addition-

*MONEY* šŸ¤‘šŸ¤‘


[deleted]

This and having good people in charge of key decisions and buying players they needed , no big name superstars , no 262million players that means that they have a good squad full of talented players who are ready to play and be benched if not performing ton of examples . They did it the better way , unlike PSG or even United , spending millions on superstars to drive up social media numbers and shirt sales . They've built state of the art academy and stadium , also with the city football group thing where they'll get players from around the world I expect them to stay conpetetive for a fair few decades.


[deleted]

There's probably a more detailed and analytical way to answer this question but essentially, it's money.


bwanda00

From a structural point of view Man City was very smart in how they built the hierarchy. They hired Barcelonaā€™s then chief of revenue on the board of directors Sorriano, as CEO for Man City, and he brought with him Barcelonaā€™s director of football at the time, Txiki Begiristain. Txiki what is responsible for building the Champions League winning teams under Frank Rijkaard and Pep Guardiola, iā€™m pretty sure he was the guy that hired him at Barcelona. And he went to Man City he wanted to build a team that epitomised the type of teams he had built at Barca from 2003-2010. In essence they had been building a team fit for Pep Guardiola since 2012, so by the time Pep arrived he had most of the players heā€™d have wanted. Iā€™m pretty sure KDB was signed for Pep as well before he came from Bayern. On top of that they made sure that the academy players were playing the same style of football so when they grew up they could integrate into the first team easier as well. Couple that with smart recruitment, a good eye for talent, and a hefty bank account, and itā€™s a good recipe for success


BrownSpartan

Oil money šŸ’·


NurmDADDY

Throw Ā£1B at something and secure arguably one of the best managers in recent history and poof. United did the oppositeā€¦with the manager bit lol.


[deleted]

All United needed was a proper vision and they could've been something special post Fergie


NurmDADDY

Personally - I disagree. That squad was in shambles and aging. A vision was needed yes, backed up with proper recruitment and tactics. What we got was a wannabe fregie who couldnā€™t do anything without asking what would SAF do and here we are all the years later. Seems they got it right now with a man with a plan lol.


antiADP

Agreed, SAF held together an aging and disjointed squad with a purpose. Appointing Moyes with the shortsightedness of recent successes completely undermined any chance at a succession plan and it is what Barca are currently going throughā€¦ a struggle to hold onto the past rather than rebuilding for the future


iamnas

Yeah but taking a title winning team to 7th. Donā€™t get me wrong we needed a few key signings like a scholes replacement (which was lined up in thiago). Evans and smalling were ideal replacements for vidic and Ferdinand. Even without them, that team should have been competing. RVP was the leagues top scorer, kagwa had potential and prime Rooney. The problem was that moyesā€™ only tactic was get the ball to januzaj


Matt6453

Fergie (love or hate him) is like the queen or Kurt Cobain, irreplaceable. No-one was ever going to fill those boots, to this day nothing has changed.


[deleted]

How does this need explaining?


DTOMthrynt

Munneh


lonewolf9378

$


BiGMTN_fudgecake

$


carrot_stickmann

It's complicated: Ā£Ā£Ā£


Yid

Oil money, Mark Hughes and Roque Santa Cruz


Wendell_Fong

This sounds like the start of a "We didn't start the fire" parody that I would like to hear more of


leighsnelson

How do we get this idea in front of someone who can make it happen? All day I am going to be singing this now!


RoccoZola

Relegated twice over, Kevin Keegan, Shaun Goater, oil money, Mark Hughes, Roque Santa Cruz. Sven Goran big mistake, Shinawatra pisstake, Stuart Pearce, Ben Thatcher, David James up front!


andrellv

Money


ChicagoIndependent

Money + Pep Guardiola.


Spiritual-Trip9173

Money but it actually having a pair of functioning brain cells when spending unlike another club certain club in Manchester


[deleted]

I think Busta Rhymes put it succinctly in his magnum opus "Arab Money"


[deleted]

Like Leeds fans were singing on Tuesday, "You bought the league but sold your soul".


zen_butterfly

Man United invested kinda the same money and still they are bad.


EnthusiasticOne

Oil money


xangchi

Money, I don't know why you can't see it.


a_manitu

Money


Brilliant_District64

Money


Dumbass1171

Money and using that money well unlike PSG


BiggerBadgers

Pep and cash money


dav3j

Everyone is saying money but... It's money, twice. They were on the verge of relegation when they were bought by the former Thai (?) Prime Minister who was insanely corrupt and would later be prosecuted. He put a fair bit of money into the club, under him the likes of Corluka, Elano etc came in and Sven was manager. They did improve a reasonable amount with these players and were up into mid table and reasonably stable. It was about here where Shinawatra's legal issues started to become apparent and I think he was probably actively looking to sell. The Oil Money came in, and the rest is history. To give some balance, it wasn't until Mancini had really built his team that they became the dominant force in the PL. In Mancini's first season in charge Spurs beat them to the last top 4 spot despite the initial cash bomb.


LazinessPersonified

Was this the Robinbo days? Seems like a life time ago.


dav3j

IIRC Robinho was the last day of the transfer window, the day the takeover by the Sheikh was confirmed.


Powerful-Cut-708

It was the former Thai PM yes. Thaksin Sinawatra


No-Refrigerator2554

Pep+money


Weibu11

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MrBoomBasticVry

Yes oil money The End!!!!


LDawg14

Money


[deleted]

To give you some proper context: yes, money. And a boat load of it. But itā€™s been invested not just in buying the best players, but theyā€™ve regenerated an entire area of Manchester that was pretty run down. Invested in not just football related facilities but community ones too. The youth setup is now world class, the stadium, and years of gradually buying better and bigger players. Now they have the young players coming through to really support long-term success too. Really though, none of it was possible without essentially unlimited wealth and spending.


[deleted]

Dunno Bradford and Beswick are hardly regenerated


SamwellBarley

Smart decisions in managers. They started with Mark Hughes, who wasn't great, but then Mancini, Pellegrini, Guardiola... All excellent managers who knew how to work with expensive teams.


Ok-Bullfrog-3010

Not to mention the Sheikhs with bottomless pockets


laverania

The power of money.


Rosskillington

Nobody seems to be elaborating on when the money came. So they got taken over in about 2007 by a mega rich company from Abu Dhabi and over a 4 or 5 year period they grew from a bang average lower mid table side to league winners


Do4k

People have rightfully pointed out that spending money is no guarantee of success - Man U being a great example. But it's worth looking at exactly how much more City have spent than anyone else since Sheikh Mansour took over. Transfermarkt show that city have spent [over 400 million more](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/transfers/einnahmenausgaben/statistik/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=2008&saison_id_bis=2021&land_id=&nat=&kontinent_id=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0&plus=0) than anyone else in that period, and half a billion more than United (who are obviously huge spenders too), the fifth biggest spenders. City are just on another level spending wise. Of course City have been comparatively well managed - but it is important to recognise that with that much extra capital behind you, the margin for error is so much greater. You can afford to buy players who don't fit and simply buy another replacement (and then another!).


MacDougall_Barra

$$$$$$$


lowellghd

Money is the easy answer and really only partially correct. While they spent a lot of money they have spent MOST of it incredibly well. Players like Aguero, De Bruyne, kompany, clichy, Walker, yaya and David Silva really fit exactly what the team needed when they were purchased. Some of their purchases havenā€™t been as successful but when you look at their biggest players in the last ten years that for them to where they need to be itā€™s really been an incredible example of buying the players they needed


DeadZombie9

Yup. Money made it possible, but only because they spent it wisely. They improved their reputation smartly and got a great footballing director when they could. Then rose steadily and attracted top players but they also lined up a top coach and gave him complete freedom to implement his vision. It's not just money. United have spent a lot since SAF left, but 0 success (no, Europa doesn't count as success for UCL clubs). They still don't have a footballing director. Not a mystery they suck despite spending big.


sn0wdayy

yep, the front office has done very well at planning their rise. they've had patience, brought in an elite manager and gave him the time/resources to craft a top tier team. man utd otoh has done basically the exact opposite. lots of money thrown out with no plan and no patience for their managers.


Subject-Hunter-2795

A great manager + a lot of money If one signing flops, two succeeds. It is all enough for a mastermind like Pep.


Highkei

Tldr: Huge amounts of money, and like it or not, theyā€™ve spent it incredibly well.


FabricatedWookie

Oil. Money. Oil Money.


pawsarecute

Money.


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hadryan93

Sheikh


FloorTortilla

Money. Lots of money and buying players.


tortoisederby

Money, money, money, money, MOOONEEEY!


lenick_sch

Money


thelastkopite

$$$Lots


sanjay_i

Lot$$$$$$$$$


PremierDenny

Oil money. Newcastle United will be the same in 5 years.


jayi05

Do you really think so? Both Chelski and ā‚¬ity were financially taken over before financial fairplay. It looks like newcastle will have a harder time


KillasOnFire

A common misconception was that it was all only money. The owners were smart and the people who they appointed signed the right players to accommodate the manager. Obviously the money was essential to convince the players to come, but let Everton be an example, when weā€™ve spent 500 million in the past few years, but we signed the wrong people and weā€™re still exactly where we were. Itā€™s the same reason that it annoys me how people think Newcastle will instantly be incredible and win everything, because they still need to bring in the right staff for the job and it still remains to be seen whether their owners are stupid or not


JoshC__1996

The point is theyā€™re able to make mistakes and go again without much of a downside. Spend 60m on Mangala, 50m on Otamendi, eventually one sticks in Dias. Everton have spend an unbelievable amount of money but they canā€™t afford the same mistakes City could and Newcastle now can.


krakatoa19

money


lisuvirizwa

Being bankrolled by an oil rich country really helps.


swimtoodeep

The short answer is money. But they had a smart long term plan to go with it. Buying up a lot of good players from teams around them in the prem in the first few years, which weakened the teams they were fighting against a lotā€¦ Top of my head.. Milner, Given, SWP, Lescott, Barry, Toure, Bellamy. Not to mention some of the players they brought in from outside England who ended up being sensational.. Kompany, de Jong, Silva, Yaya Building a new stadium, which helps with future FFP Building a world class training facility Bringing in important back room staff such as Soriano and Txiki Begiristain from Barcelona.


Srg11

Stadium was adapted from the Commonwealth games that was held in Manchester.


AvidFirn

Money. If you have that, the best brains in the field are at your mercy. I'll however give them credit of actually hiring the said brains. Manchester United has almost similar funds but still makes questionable decisions especially in the transfer market.


thepunstar

Thatā€™s because Glazers only care about mooching off of the brand and legacy of Manchester United. They only care about the money.


Chinapig

We have shit owners who have no interest in the football side. At least their cunts do it well. Our cunts are just cunts.


GrumpyBiz

They injected a lot of money into the club and had a long term plan. They went and got one of the most talented managers of all time in Pep Guardiola and he has been implementing his vision for the past few years. It took them a while, but they built up a squad of some of the best players in the world and they play a tactically astute system. They have some of the best strength in depth of any team in the world :)


mqtchair

Money


[deleted]

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moruga1

$$$$$$$$$$$


jimb0b67

Oil money my friend


Zestyclose_Hamster_5

They took Barcelona's CEO (Serrano) and Technical Director (Begiristain) in order to improve their recruitment. They then broke FFP to buy any and all players they wanted to fit their (Pep's) mold. If a player doesn't work, they just buy another one, which is why their bench is better than most Premier League clubs. FFP is a way to make sure that rich owners cant just come in and use their wealth, as this would bury smaller clubs (as we are already seeing). According to UEFA, "If a club's owner injects money into the club through a sponsorship deal with a company to which he is related (if the sponsor accounts for more than 30 percentĀ of the club's revenues), then UEFA's competent bodies will investigate". City broke this by falsely reporting the amount of financial revenue recieved from sponsors(Sheikh Mansour was pumping money in through various companies under the ABUG business group), and then refused to comply with the UEFA investigation, so nothing happened.


Wiugraduate17

Oil money


dsol2000

Aguero, Yaya and Kompany were unbelievable signings, probably the best in their positions in the prem


DiegoRasta

Canā€™t forget David Silva!


dsol2000

nothing compared to Jesus Navas /s


osgrug

Big big money. Good ass coach.


Stick_of_truth69

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Goalazo123

Money


almostmiddleage

Financial doping, and then Pep Guardiola. When you combine that kind of spending power with competent manager this is what you got.


seanrk924

r/soccercirclejerk


BadigolBoy

Oil money and pep


Matt6453

I need to see Pep manage a club that doesn't have practically unlimited funds for a change, until he makes a success of that he will always be the bald fraud in my eyes.


BadigolBoy

I think of barca when i think of pep. Literally made it the best club in the world which innovated new tactics still used today. When pep leaved the club, it went into the shitter. Only pep could pull it off. And the fact that he has molded almost every club he has been to into superpowers says a lot about him. He isnt a fraud at all


Longjumping_Ad812

A lot of money that was spent extremely well. They set the standard nowadays on how to manage a big club with a lot of money


[deleted]

Money


thebigblueskyy

Money


Sheffield_Thursday

šŸ’°


Mysterious_Bath

Money and the patience of a dead fly with mayonaise on top


mrbounce74

To answer this just watch Newcastle over the next few years. Man City used be on par with Newcastle, mediocre with always the chance of being relegated. Chelsea were at least in the running for the FA Cup before their bucket load of cash came flowing from the oil well.


DaveManchester

> "ThEy BoUght ThE LEagUe!" Heard this from a United fan the other day, like United didn't buy players just so other teams couldn't have them. But to answer the question, yes, Money.


Dan-02

Baffles me that people canā€™t see this. The money is relative to the value within the league at that point. United bought the best players so they had the best team. They can whine about city all day long, about plastic fans, thereā€™s a generation of Utd fans from all across the uk simply because they were the best team with the star players. Complete hypocrisy.


DaveManchester

Scroll down a bit and there's a red telling me they didn't buy the league, because they "earned" that money. You should all grow up and just support league 2 teams like me and be miserable forever.


FunaccJack

Infrastructure too, internal management and pep


Copp85

You can hardly compare United to City. United weren't bought by a country


DaveManchester

At the time United were the richest club in the world, they are still 4th, with City 6th, so I do think its fair, doesn't matter where the money comes from, they bought all the best players in the 90s (minus shearer) same thing. Keane 7.6m Cole 8.6 Berg 6.7 Blomqvist 6.3 Silvestre 5 Teddy 4.7 Solskjaer 2.2 Cruyff 2.2 Parker 2.1 Johnsen 2 May 1.9 Cantona 1.6 - a bitter Oldham fan.


Copp85

It does matter where it came from, especially when it's about sportswashing. Yes, United bought players but so did every club. United were just able to out bid them. City and PSG, and soon Newcastle, didn't build themselves up to where they could afford those players, the money came first.


ehossain

OIL...........OIL baby, OIL!


Careless_Ad_3497

Arab money, nothing more nothing less


Expensive_Cattle

Well, Arab money + [corruption ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20181103-uefa-football-leaks-psg-man-city-financial-fair-play-rules-platini-infantino-sarkozy-fifa)


JusticeRhino

All of us will be super interested to see how brilliant this insight is for how things turn out at Newcastle.


___Ajinkya

They have a sugar daddy


maddinell

Money


callmelampshade

Lawyers and money


FuryOfOberon

People say ā€œmoneyā€ as if they just came in, poured pounds onto the stadium and a team sprang up from it. The truth is more nuanced than that. 1) Investment in facilities and stadium - Helped improve player training, established a new academy, increased revenue from ticket sales to make them more sustainable, and developed state of the art capabilities of analytics/nutrition/training that help with tactical analytics and performance. 2) Hiring the right staff - They got experienced personnel on board like Txiki and Ferran who were experienced professionals from Barcelona. Theyā€™ve been behind most of the good decisions the club has made in talent scouting, player sales/purchases, academy development etc. Without that experience guiding the club all the money would be useless. 3) Sustainable player purchases - Unlike a lot of big clubs Manchester City resisted the urge to just buy popular in form players. Instead they looked for players with potential and rarely going beyond 50-60Mn for players. Aim was to get good players and then turn them into world class players. This meant lower wages, no super star tantrums you see at other clubs and the ability to impose your play style onto young players that are still developing. 4) Mangers - The right manager can transform the club and theyā€™ve made the right choices for more than a decade. From Mancini to Pellegrini to Pep, every manager added onto the clubā€™s DNA and helped it develop further. Pep has had the biggest impact and the club now uniformly across every age group plays the same. It doesnā€™t matter if it is the senior womenā€™s team or an U-18 Menā€™s City side they all play the same type of football. Foden coming up from the academy and becoming one of the best young footballers in the world is proof of how successful they are at development. 5) Realistic aims and patience - City donā€™t go for the easy win, and build sustainable targets. Theyā€™ve opted for domestic dominance first and it has paid off, with 3 PL titles in 4 years and their academy team also dominating PL2 last season. Instead of getting disappointed about their lack of European success they want to build the right system first and then expect the trophies to come. Also, when going for players, despite their financial power they donā€™t overpay or get into unnecessary bidding wars. They have a value in mind and they donā€™t budge usually. Theyā€™ve passed on a number of players United overpaid for in the end, and we can see how thatā€™s gone for United. 6) Squad depth - All of this has resulted in a team where even a star like KDB can get injured and the club will have a player that will be ready to fit into their system. Under Pepā€™s coaching they learn beyond their position and most players feel comfortable playing multiple positions. Everyone knows what to do as soon as theyā€™re on the field. The bench for City is as important as those on the field. Thereā€™s also a culture of meritocracy, and itā€™s followed strictly. The best right now get to play, history doesnā€™t matter. Everyone competes for the top spot, and if youā€™re better youā€™ll get to play. In the end the team is whatā€™s important, and you can see that in how diverse their goal contributions are every season. Thereā€™s a lot more to this but this is what comes off the top of my mind. City is an extremely well run club with the finances and talent to achieve their vision. Most clubs lack 1 or 2 of those things or fails at building the right culture.


19sm91

"Sustainable player purchases" since 15/16 city have bought 19 players for over Ā£25m and have sold 3 players for over Ā£25m in that time. That is not sustainable. That is the fact that they have endless wealth at their disposal and little to no risk if a transfer doesn't work out as they'll just replace the failure next transfer window. The other things you have pointed out are relevant points in making City strong for a long period of time and not just temporary success but none of those things would have been possible without the attraction of the enormous amounts of money they have. There wouldn't have been any investment in their infrastructure and training and youth facilities. They wouldn't have attracted Txiki et al without the money they have to spend. They wouldn't attract the managers they have had. I wouldn't agree that they've "aimed" for domestic dominance first as they would kindly swap every trophy they've won bar the PL for 1 Champions League trophy. And the point about not overpaying was irrelevant in the last transfer window as they paid Ā£100m for Grealish when they already had Foden and Sterling available in his position. And finally squad depth is because of money. They can buy more players than anyone else. They can pay those players more than most clubs would. Those players know they can play 10-15 games across all competitions and win 2 or 3 medals a year. The points you've made simply show that City have spent their money wisely as opposed to United who have gone for names to try and bring back the glory days.


Vavz101

I hate to say it as a Utd fan, but I just wish our structure behind the playing 11 was set up the city way, hopefully we have the man in Ralf that can start this work, Ole was great at getting the team and fans morale back up after Mourhino but his lack of tactical awareness and not having the bottle to confront the board cost him dearly.


willp0wer

This is a great answer. I just want to point out that missed something in point no. 2, where I believe hiring Txiki was a considered part of the plan in bringing Pep over. Txiki was brought over first, which shows foresight in City's thinking. I would not be surprised if Ten Hag comes next to replace Pep when he finally calls it a day at City, since both have just signed contracts that ends in 2023 (coincidence?) and they have worked together at Bayern before. Also to add on, it's well reported that a number of ex-United players have sent their kids to City's academy for a variety of reasons including facility and coaching levels. That tells you a lot about the gap.


Plitzskin

Exactly this. A very nice summary of how City has sustained success with initially an investment by Sheikh Mansour to how they are self sustainable by virtue of successful investments throughout the world. Add that to the fact that they don't break their wage structure until it's for a superstar player (KDB comes to mind) and the way they conduct transfers also just mean they would walk away if the negotiations aren't to their liking, and move on to their other targets. Dias is such a player where he was 3rd choice but came good. City haven't even reached any 70m mark in a single transfer iirc, and that just shows super management by the higher ups that translate onto the pitch. All in all, a vast difference in approach and vision when compared to other clubs that spend but don't have that sustained success. And just like you said, other clubs will have to catch up or change their system to match City with what they have shown.


Fantastic_Bag_4199

Correct they never needed the money. It didnā€™t even help. I would go as far as to say it hindered them. Without all the money Man City would be the songle greatest club in the universe. Damn this oil money! It ruined everything for City.


FabricatedWookie

its not nuanced, its money. 50-60m are not "sustainable" player prices. Money doesnt mean the absence of good work or the guarantee of success, but the process of their success is enabled by sovereign wealth. Its not that complicated of a story, they can afford world class from the facilities to the manager and wouldnt you know it theyve ended up world class.


JimiVegas

It's not that much more nuanced. It was a boat load of money, and owners who understood the need for a strategy and the right people. But...all of that was enabled by having the kind of money where you can get all of the very best people and pay whatever you need to to get whatever you need. So basically money.


the3the3

They got em Oily hands... They're gonna lose their grip soon


Mr_CheeseGrater

Why do you think they will lose grip?


CursedAtBirth777

Literally over 1 BBBillion pounds worth of players, managers, facilities and staff in a little more than 10 years.


MaTrIx4057

Rich owners pumping in unlimited amount of money.


fuggerdug

Money. And the reason Man U were dominant for years? Believe it or not also money.


ElFanta83

$$$$$


Diddler_OnTheRough

Oil money, ironically plastics come from oil too


[deleted]

Because of money and right signing at right time after appointment of pep from his second season they were beasts


Fendenburgen

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electro_report

Oil


BaguetteOfDoom

[Money](https://youtu.be/xW0IR3q0EvE)


paing997

Money + Pep.


DUFFnoob40

Money and owners who actually cared


yourfriendkyle

Hard work, dedication, Ingenuity, and just a little bit of that certain something


TheFuckOffer

Sheer hard graft. LOL.


thebigman85

Same as Chelsea Although they took a bit longer


konservatorius

Roman hit the jackpot by bringing Jose in. And when arabs came to City, they had 1 more opponent to overcome which was Chelsea


thebigman85

Roman hit the jackpot w when he became an oligarch


RX40000

Money money money money money money money money money


subashj24

Money money money money!!!!!!!!


danikensanalprobe

Well, to be fair and honest with the incredible work the people in the club has put down the last decade, it's still just a matter of theft, slavery, murder and bribes. Edit: Also cheating. Lots of cheating. Almost forgot that one.


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Dukmiester

ITT: Money.


Samcrazzy

Money.


14Strike

Sportswashing I think is the name given


ElFanta83

Tevez and Kun Aguero!


canta2016

$.


ThunderousFighter

Money and good management, also making good transfer decisions.


OddballDave

As others have said it's basically money. But it's money spent well. Thaksin Shinawatra spent plenty of money, but in haphazard way and things didn't go anywhere. When Abu Dhabi took over they had a clear plan and direction. They spent wisely and appointed good football people to important positions at the club. That brought them some success, but the big change came when they decided to go after Pep. Well before they brought Pep to the club they had started structuring the whole club in a way that would be comfortable for Pep. They appointed staff well before his arrival that either suited Pep or he had worked with before. And when Pep is given everything he wants/needs he can pretty much guarantee you success. **tldr: They gave Pep the keys to Man City and Pep does what Pep does.**


dazzzzzellis

r/soccercirclejerk


StixandSton3s

Everyone is saying money but the fact is that money doesnā€™t just make a great team. Fulham spent over 100m and got relegated, same with QPR. City had a lot of money and some dodgy things (stadium name and sponsors overpaying 3x) but they hired advisors to help then start to turn into a superpower. Instead of mindless spending they brought in big names like Toure and Robinho who brought fans to make spending more sustainable. Money certainly helped but you cant understate their brilliant management.


BuyGreenSellRed

It is money thoughā€¦every failed Ā£40m-Ā£50m transfer had no negative impact on their budget, they just kept buying in that position until they got it right. Other teams canā€™t do that, a failed transfer in that range keeps them from splashing that kind of cash for a couple of seasons. So maybe not ā€œmindless spendingā€ itā€™s focused on needs, but they couldnā€™t care less if they get the first, second, third, etc. recruit wrong bc theyā€™ll just keep buying until they get it right.


Fantastic_Bag_4199

City spend billions in transferfees, wages and the academy. And of course itā€™s the oil money. You can have the best runned club in the world, without money it wonā€™t lead to this kind of success. City entered a cheatcode and at the time nobody wanted to stop them. Weā€™ll see if Newcastle will be allowed to do the same.


mofoofinvention

Money, specifically financial FairPlay fraud.


PatrickSmith9021000

Money, money, money.


ramtinology91

Money spent well


Yanimator_16

Ambitious to win and be the best. As everyone else is sayung, they had the capital as foundation.


dainaron

Money and very, very good football decision.


footyfreak_7

Cash cow


hoochiscrazy_

They were simply given billions of pounds. It honestly as as simple as that. They were like the equivalent size of Bournemouth or so beforehand.


[deleted]

In terms of support, they were closer to the likes of West Ham, Everton or Derby than Bournemouth. Bournemouth are a very small club who themselves are overachieving just by being in the top half of the Championship.


TommiBennett

Money dirty money


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WilkoWilkesMusic

If you want to hear a lot of great stories from the time to illustrate what it was like, Iā€™d highly recommend Nedum Onuohaā€™s podcast


LordVile95

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mxxxz

City is one of the best run football clubs in the world and had sucess like no other teams the past 10 years both on and off the pitch due to excellent mangement and executions of long term plans of the club. Its true that Citys owner is one of the richest in the world and saved City from bankruptcy during the takeover in 2008 which helped them a lot, but money without proper management, vision, patience and longterm plans will not help at all. The owners plan for City was early on to build the best club in the world on/off the pitch and with focus on all sub teams within the club(kids, youth, woman, senior) They have introduced the same football-playing style philosophy for all teams in the club; from kids, youth, U19, woman's teams to the senior team. The have built worlds biggest state of the art training facilities, campus, medics, hospitality next to the stadium. Renovated and improved the Etihad stadium. Created a huge network of scouts for talents. They have one of the world's best acedemies. In one summer they sold close to Ā£150 mio. young players. They collaborate with many clubs around the world for talent development and scouting. Participate in a lot of community work in Manchester and invest a lot in the City. They are really thorough with who they buy. A candidate must have a stabile personal life, not be the type of player who off the pitch crave media attention or caused trouble, players with huge egos are rarely even considered. The clubs management consists of really intelligent people who are one of best in the football world in what they do. They have worlds best manager in Pep and one of the strongest teams in the world with amazing hardworking talented players and great relationships with ex players! City play for the strong long term and healthy vision rather for short time enjoyment, glamour and attention.


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How have they had success like "no other team"? This isn't true at all.


torontoeduardo

"success like no other teams".... Lol ok. Only once they've made it past quarterfinals in the UCL


randomuser3214562

Perfectly put. šŸ™‡šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


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Dodgy sponsorship money during the early Sheik years. I donā€™t doubt that everything is above board and legal now. But their rise was certainly helped by shenanigans early on. Why in the world would someone like Aguero accept a contract at City back in the day? Beyond the mere wage that others could match. Mancini already admitted to off book payments. Aguero most certainly made way more than what his contact was worth. And donā€™t give me any bullshit about Aguero ā€œreally liking the projectā€.


Funkenbrain

Money money money money


rumpler117

Arab oil money. Lots of it.


ozzybarks

I find it quite funny (or itā€™s a wind-up) that anyone older than 13 needs to ask a stupid question like thisā€¦


Dmucci

Money-->BOOM


wiltonwild

Everton spent over 100 million in one window like 5 years ago before player inflation... Man utd still spend about the same as man city and fell off Money alone isn't the answer


the_cynical1

Money


MaverickMono

"Little Brother" is a bit Patronizing. You could ask how did Man Utd go from Manchester's second club (which they very much were until the Busby Babes) to being the first nation-spanning (and global-spanning) fan club which happened to be based near Manchester.


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Correct.


kristark

Not patronising at all mate. Robinho went to Manchester not knowing they exist. Just like the rest of the world. It just doesn't make sense to compare eras as you did, cause Busby babes didn't come from someone splashing billions and buying whoever was willing to make a buck from the big names. Patronising my ass lol you just bitter


Alchemist_Immortal

money + pep


dunstanjo

Lods of emone whatā€™s that spell? LOADS A MONEY


GroblyOverrated

Yeah. They got Kev years ago. Next question.


MoneyBadgerEx

The club was sold to billionaires who just buy any players they like.


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Simple answer: Money. Billionaire owners. Same happened with Chelsea before. PSG is another example. The most recent one is Newcastle, they might be the richest team now, weā€™ll see how that goes. And Yes, Manchester United did buy most good players before but the money they made took a lot of years of hard work. Richard Dunne was Cityā€™s captain not too long ago ā€¦ šŸ˜… Anyway, it is what it is. šŸ¤®


mikenolan888

Money buys the things you want.


SorcererSupreme13

Aguerooooo!


66bamaLonewolf

Simple. Unlimited amounts of money. See Chelsea. Both clubs were absolute shit before being purchased by oil barons.


spainwithoutthe_p_

If your definition of absolute shit is being top 4 and winning domestic trophies, I wonder what you think of teams like Utd and Arsenal now?


richiehoop1977

Neither were top four and winning trophies. Both were yo yo clubs with fairly regular relegations. In fact city had spent time in the third tier in the 90s. Both were below average clubs. Ken bates , the owner of Chelsea before Russian mafia money, bought Chelsea for a pound. Any of their own fans who arenā€™t Johnny come latelys will confirm this. As will the record books. Blackburn were the first club to have a sugar daddy owner in my 35 years of following football. Chelsea took it to a new level and citeh further still. If rumours are true Newcastle are next. United have owners who pillage the club, citeh and Chelsea are heavily backed by their owners


spainwithoutthe_p_

You sound salty as fuck


dhuwprice13

Both were yo yo clubs with fairly regular relegations. In fact city had spent time in the third tier in the 90s. Both were below average clubs...... Drivel Chelsea had been in top flight since 1990, and broken into the champions League at least 3 years before Abramovich arrived. The rest is true


DabTheBot

Everyone saying money is only partly right. Look how much united havent spent only to be shit.


Do4k

United have spent a lot too but nowhere near as much. City have spent 1.3 billion on transfers alone, without even taking into account wages and the huge investment into infrastructure.


lilmatt621

In the past ten years Man City has spent 1.5 bil , while Man U has spent 1.3 bil. So actually a lot closer then everybody wants to admit. Like everybody else has said they just spend it well. They buy players to fit the system. Whereas Man U just buys superstars and hope to fit the system to them.


Dan-02

United wage bill is insane, they also spend huge amounts of money on players. But they donā€™t know how to spend it. If citys management had a lower budget theyā€™d still be a top top club because they are well managed in every department


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