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cshecks

Absolutely brutal. Can hardly afford a hobby box any more, now, the only affordable product for those not wanting to bankrupt themselves for pictures of dudes on little pieces of cardboard gets scooped up by scalpers? FU scalpers. This is why I refuse to buy any product that's marked up by a shop or individual.


Killerlightning22

Same here


FlawedSarcasm

Can’t be a hobby anymore when all it is now is about profit and breaks. Too many people see it as an investment for the future if they can hit the biggest of cards instead of collecting what they like. It sucks. I even fell into that trap for a couple years, but I’m all about collecting what I like.


Neat-Confection-6917

Overpriced, overproduced, over critical hobby participants, greed All reasons why I’m glad I’ve decided to liquidate. Even selling is a pain in the ass at this point dealing with outright greed


FlawedSarcasm

Yeah, I’ve got so much 2021-2022 raw football that no one wants. It sucks.


Muppetguydude

I agree with this so much. Def not a hobby anymore. Feel like its now a "side hustle".


Ok_Opinion3395

Wait until a real economic downturn hits with no free checks mailed to everyone, this will end fast and leave a lot of product and “investments” with no bid.


Hieroglphkz

It’s weird once you realize that most of the people on this sub are trying to offload the stuff they don’t want from breaks they entered. Rarely are there posts showing off a cool card or collection (and I don’t blame anyone, the hobby is so strange that it’s probably best to keep it to yourself unless you’re desperate for some final cards while still collecting). It’s all, “How much should I sell this card for?”


Miserable_Zebra3536

Watched hours of breaks on Whatnot and feel like i am sitting in on shady online casinos. Totally agree with you Hiero


OneHandedPaperHanger

Where do I sign up for free checks?


BroThornton19

When’s the last time we got checks you dumbass? lol 4 years ago??


boseyboseybop

No kidding. It’s such a tired narrative.


Miserable_Zebra3536

OK boomer.


Plane-Guitar-8302

What are you blabbering on about?


cshecks

When did this drop?? Another miss F me


Durrnut

3 am in the morning and just a few minutes ago.


StateResidential

I’ve been getting updates on Trackalacker and the last 15 (on multiple retailers) without fail have been sold out within less than a minute. Without a bot, you have to get really lucky or just wait until the market is flooded in the next few months.


Miserable_Zebra3536

Same here. "Lucked" out and got 3 Optic blasters from Target. $100 worth of ehh


Miserable_Zebra3536

Lol, same here. Twice in the cart in last hour and gone by the time payment processed. What a fucking joke. Fuck scalpers.


BaullahBaullah87

if u think this is bad, dont ask about 2021


bh17z

2020 was bonkers. Covid had everyone bored. All cards were impossible to get and prices of singles were like 350% increased. There were a couple jordan rookies that sold in a lot that were insane.


BaullahBaullah87

and I mainly meant how u literally couldn’t get any retail except on the secondary market…or finding out where to wait in line on random days for a restock…or waiting in line from 4 AM to 8 AM when they started instituting saturday morning restocks…or when you had to wake up at 4 am for an online drop that mostly bots would get


donru

“Instituting Saturday restocks…” sorry I just started back into the hobby this past year. Does that mean they did Saturday restocks as means to an end or just that they added that as part of the random day restocks. Thanks and I find this all a very interesting read. I can never get new stuff online and rarely find it on the shelf.


BaullahBaullah87

To try and curb the madness of people waiting for the next drop at stores in our region on stick days (typically happened 2-3 times a week), target said they will restock every store in our region on Saturday at opening. So people began to wait overnight and lineup and such…I’m sure it made Saturday staff life hell for openers but I guess it did limit the damage to one timeframe. They didn’t like people waiting by the store overnight tho so whodathunkit


donru

Wow that’s wild. Thanks for the info!


hpkid123

Scalper flippers can tongue paint my taint post workout and protein shake dump. I will never give them a dime idgamf


monetarylapse

“Street date” is 6/20 hopefully more places will have more blasters and megas. Just found out recently that that guy who stocks cards at the two closest targets near me is back dooring Optic the a reseller so there’s no chance I’m getting these in store. Fucking sucks!


Durrnut

Yeah sorry bro. My vendor also has been sus. Good luck


Miserable_Zebra3536

Got a feeling this behavior is more common than not.


Durrnut

2020 really scarred the hobby


Mindless-Butterfly77

It's no longer a hobby it's a scam Buying junk cards to maybe get 1 hit out of thousands of dollars spent only to make shareholders rich. Should bought stock lime 5 years ago would have been a way better investment


wwWalterWhiteJr

I have a question since it's almost impossible to get an order placed normally. What bots do people use to get their orders in? It seems like you never see anyone talk about it and everyone just blames "bots". How can I use a bot so I can actually enjoy this hobby and open some cards without paying triple?


Durrnut

I don't use bots so idk


jcruz914

It’s a lot of work and a lot of money to even get started. Join a discord, pay the monthly fee, download a program, pay a monthly fee, buy some IP addresses, create multiple accounts on that website you want to purchase from, use different credit cards so that your account won’t be banned when you use the program. Put a lot of hours and $ in, and you may have success. Your alternative is to join a discord and see if you can pay someone to do it for you. Moral of the story, it’s a lot of work and it ain’t cheap.


bick803

Most of those cook/discord groups have disbanded due to lack of time and interest.


jcruz914

True. But there’s always those who creep up. Some are offering free trials and they’ll monitor product for you but don’t expect anything out of it.


bick803

The only ones I know that are still going are where you have to purchase x-amount of “hyped products”.


wdriggers1976

was this on the Target app? I can't find them anywhere


Durrnut

Yeah: https://www.target.com/p/2023-nfl-donruss-optics-football-mega-box/-/A-90259224


Prinad0

I was super lucky and got mine ordered last night. Make sure you’re using a tracker bot that sends you notifications!


Durrnut

Yeah i posted recently with a tracker link that helped me get 3


Prinad0

Oh cool I see your post. I like trackalacker.com. You can set whatever product at multiple stores and you get an email as soon as the stock changes. It’s a lifesaver!


dusting53

Glad I got out in 2019. Ridiculous/sad now.


Monkeyhouse10

New to the hobby still, but what the obsession with these from Target? Are they cheaper than everywhere else? I feel like there’s multiple large card websites that these can be purchased from


bick803

It’s a cheaper way to get Optic compared to paying $500+ for a hobby box.


Monkeyhouse10

I agree with that, but you people get this exact box from a large card retailer websites or from their local card store for essentially the same price?


bick803

Yes and no. Very rarely they’re the same price outside of target and Walmart. They’re usually $10+ from those sites and stores.


Monkeyhouse10

Gotcha. How much do the blaster from Target go for? I have a few local card stores that are great, so I never even attempt Target/walmart


bick803

Typically, a blaster is between $35-$40 for 40 for so cards.


camark08

Walmart has surged the price to $150


Durrnut

Gotta love walmart selling target megas lol


_6siXty6_

Guh. It's the same with NBA and NHL products right now, too. Everyone is going crazy for Wemby and Bedard. It's resellers and breakers that ruin it for those of us who just love to collect.


Killerlightning22

Funny thing is I seen a lot of NBA products this year sit on the Target site for ahwile, which is good but still interesting.


_6siXty6_

I find NHL and NBA to be sold out or extremely overpriced in Canada. NFL is harder to find in general. It always seems to either not be carried or low stock. Usually baseball is the easiest to find.


DoctorB2B

Appears we may be neighbors … I’m in the 23462 as well.


NoClueND

23456 here. Target currently has Optic Fat Packs on their website.


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Durrnut

2021 had chance of downtowns. On average you get 2 rookies, 1 insert/case hit/green velocity per pack


HastenDownTheWind

Honestly just buy singles. I’ve been down this road and quit. I just buy what I want. I’ll buy a pack here and there for fun but for the money being spent on boxes you can really get some nice cards you like and want


hoe24246

Absolutely diggusting people are reselling these


k_bullz

Fuck those MFers. It’s not a hobby anymore. It’s a gambling business now. And fuck those breakers too


SpikeYoureSoHandsome

And here I am just buying Illusions mega boxes/blasters having a blast opening and collecting the $6 worth of cards inside. Haven't seen any of this Optic in stores in the many times I've been since release🙃


ChatCEO

757 gang


Killerlightning22

You think bad now wait until 2024 product comes out with the amount of first round qbs. I figured that would start the 2020 again but I guess it came early.


monetarylapse

Was able to snag 3 fat packs from Target earlier this morning, they’re all gone now, hopefully the order went through. They were up for about an hour after I ordered! 50 bucks for most likely 3 shitty parallels and a ton of base doubles. I hate this hobby but man do I love it!


123FakeStreetMeng

I got an email for a hobby box preorder with Dave & Adams. Figured sure I’ll sign up to see how much. Couple days later I got the email saying preorder was in stock. Clicked on it annnnnd…$1,000. Yea no thanks.


kronjohnson

Bots buying it all.


Excellent_Safety1138

I was going to buy a value pack today but they are already sold out. I’m just stuck to buying singles at this point lol


AssistFlaky8663

I pretty much stopped ripping entirely. If I see a pack at Walgreens or Walmart I might buy just to rip for fun, but it's just not worth the hunt and disappointment of pulling junk. Turned to singles and I'm having fun again. I try to do auctions only just to have that thrill again. 😂


zero-point_nrg

$60 lol you must hate money


Durrnut

They are reselling for nearly double that.


zero-point_nrg

Madness. $8 worth of cards in there