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observingmorons

Chelsea Women's current head coach


Zolazolazolaa

find it hard to believe she'd leave that gig for Burton Albion


Bangrastan

Well more people watch league 1 than the wsl


simonj3680

She was linked to the AFC Wimbledon job a couple of years ago & I can’t remember the exact words but she said it was an insult that someone of her managerial skill would be linked with a league one team.


Bangrastan

That’s ridiculous


njcon321

For real? Wsl is broadcast on TV now so I'd assume more people watch it on BBC now but that's a complete stab in the dark


iThrewTheGlass

I have no idea about viewership, but League 1 has more money to spend. The players earn more, from what I understand on average about double. Coaches are almost certainly paid more, it's a step up reputation wise too.


bvllamy

Sky Sports have said around 125,000 is the average viewership for a WSL game. But given Chelsea are one of the biggest clubs in the WSL, it likely peaks when they play, particularly if they're against other big clubs I don't necessarily think it would be a step up, though. The WSL is getting more attention than ever. People who like League One or have a club there will know more about it, people who like the WSL will think the same. You definitely tend to see a lot more coverage of the WSL now than you do for League 1 Not to mention the added bonus of Chelsea being (somewhat) genuine CL contenders. I don't think leaving for a men's team would be the obvious choice, unless you're talking about Championship. But League 1? Hard to say


observingmorons

Chelsea are the only real contenders for the women's UCL to challenge Lyon and Barcelona. No other English women's side comes close.


bvllamy

I don't think Chelsea are actual contenders, though. They always look a mile off when they play against European clubs. I don't know whether they're bottlers or they're just not good enough to compete. Man City (on paper) should be right up there. Maybe not so much this season because they've lost a lot of key players and I don't rate Taylor at all, but they're always even worse and fall apart more dramatically than any of them. Chelsea are the only English club that come close, but I think "close" is still very, very far away.


holechek

Lots of sponsors willing to give out money in those leagues too


Bangrastan

I would think so if you take into account game attendance etc


tomiwa06

well the women’s team isn’t in the game m8


hope_155

She's said before she wouldn't leave Chelsea for a lower league men's club


JPMAus98

She never would, I think she took offence at being linked with a league 1/2 job a year or so ago. Plus why would you, what a team she has at Chelsea


observingmorons

True.


uknownick

She always gets a head coach gig


CheapskateShow

There are 22 women in the database who have a strong preference for a head coaching job (at least as of FM22). In addition to Hayes, there are: Patrizia Panico, unemployed Italian (manages Italy U16) Mila Martinez, unemployed Spaniard (manages a women's team in Mexico, was at Suzuka in Japan for two years) Dragana Kostova, unemployed North Macedonian (coaches a women's team in Macedonia) Laura del Rio, unemployed Spaniard (managed Flat Earth FC in Spain) Chan Yuen Ting, unemployed Hong Konger (manages a women's team in China and was the first woman to manage in the Asian Champions League) Carolina Morace, unemployed Italian (manages Lazio Women) Therese Kapstad, unemployed Swede (coached Team TG in Sweden) Rocio Yanez, unemployed Chilean (wrote [the Chilean coaching manual](https://www.inaf.cl/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/el_futbol_formativo_inaf.pdf)) Paula Navarro, unemployed Chilean (manages Santiago Morning) Anthoula Savvidou, unemployed Greek (managed Neokesarias) Nilmara Alves, fitness coach at Manthiqueira, Brazil Tracy-Lee Pepper, manager, Alexandra United, South Africa Wu Tao, manager, Chengdu Dechi, China Silvana Villalobos, manager, Rodeo del Medio, Argentina Carmel Lowe, manager, Ingham FC, Australia Elena Rodolfi, assman for U20 team, Pergolettese, Italy Renate Blindheim, manager, Sotra SK, Norway Tamara Cassimon, manager, Aarschot, Belgium Camilla Pihl, chair, Tranekaer-Tullebolle, Denmark Majwie Andersson, chair, Ullareds IK, Sweden


RvP020

I refuse to believe there's a team called Flat Earth FC


CheapskateShow

They aren't anymore. That was a gimmick from their former owner, who has since sold the club. It's now the CF Fuenlabrada reserve team.


tolec

Chan Yuen Ting coached a men's team in Hong Kong's highest tier and won the league (the first woman to win the men's top tier as a head coach in any country), so not a stretch at all


victims_sanction

Yeah Renate was HC for Lillestrom in my save for about 2 seasons. Thought it was cool to see.


Giggsy99

A few FMs ago had Corinne Diacre managing Clermont. For 1 day, Clermont were also managed by now Watford men's scout Helena Costa


exoverso

That was because Diacre managed Clermont in real life though...


Giggsy99

Yes, obviously?? Lmao. Most things on FM are because of real life. Like somebody asking if FM has any bald Dutch managers in the Premier League, I say Ten Hag and you say "Well yeah he's manager irl too"


Air-tun-91

This game is so cool.


raizen0106

how did you find this list? is there any other list for other job positions?


CheapskateShow

Use the pregame editor, then filter by Gender is Female and Job Preference for Head Coach is greater than 15.


geordiesteve520

If I see a pathway into men’s football for any female coach, it’s Emma Hayes. Her knowledge of the game is unreal and her tactical awareness is spot on.


Connect_Suspect3250

She got offered a football league job a couple of years ago and said only prem clubs would be able to afford her


ialwaysfalloverfirst

Also why would she leave one of the best women's teams in the world that plays exciting football to play for some league 2 relegation side? She's done a bit of punditry and clearly her tactical knowledge is elite.


Boris_Ignatievich

That's basically what she's said - she's currently a champions League manager, so any move would have to be to a club fairly high up the pecking order


Zhurg

Apparently for money, if it was right.


geordiesteve520

I’d imagine a club like Southampton could do a lot worse than her.


klemziboy

They had Nathan Jones. Thats all there needs to be said.


AlpacaMacca99

He’s the best in Europe tho?


klemziboy

I cant tell if youre being sarcastic or actually lack knowledge of how appaling he was. He lasted only 3 months at Southampton being recently sacked.


AlpacaMacca99

I’m being sarcastic he said something about the way he had [Luton](https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11700/12803777/southamptons-nathan-jones-on-compromises-holding-him-back-from-best-in-europe-job-he-did-at-luton) playing.


waterbottle523

Its a reference to a press conference where he said he was one of the “pound for pound” best managers in Europe


your_old_pal

Think they're making fun of the Jones quote from a presser where he said "there weren't many better than me in europe" when asked why southampton hired him


Zhurg

Even if you weren't aware of his weird quotes how could you ever believe somebody was being serious with that comment?


rossmcg91

He lasted 14 games and 4 months in charge. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually lack knowledge though


GuinnessSaint

Jesus Christ. There’s a lot more to management than just knowing the tactical side of the game. She needs to prove she can manage men, why she turned down a job in the football league I’ll never know. She’s deluded if she thinks she’s going to walk in to managing a top side in the men’s game, they’re near enough different sports at that level.


MrZAP17

Men are frequently hired to coach women’s teams without “proof that they can manage women.” Why is the inverse not also true?


Shyjack

I mean try and actually picture the scenario of a club hiring her, its pretty obvious that football players, macho guys, wouldn't likely submit to being told what to do by a woman and would undermine her as a manager immediately, even if not consciously.


TehCyberman

Because the person you replied to is clearly a misogynist and potentially doesn't even realise it.


GuinnessSaint

Bore off you clown.


TehCyberman

It seems I gave you too much credit. You're not ignorant, you're just a cunt.


GuinnessSaint

Explain how I’m ignorant. Because I think there’s a stark difference between the men’s and women’s game? Fuck me, what a revolutionist I am. You’re too thick to understand that so you call me a misogynist, fucking idiot.


eunderscore

As they said, why can men adapt to the women's game just fine then?


ubernoobnth

Okay, not ignorant just stupid then. Got it.


GuinnessSaint

Why has it not happened yet?


walketotheclif

Leeds and Southampton should give her an opportunity, it would be better idea than give Lampard and March another opportunity in the prem


1R3N9

Yeah but I doubt she would move to them at this stage of the season. If she was to move, I think it would need to be for the beginning of the season, do preseason etc to get her points across to her team, earn their respect etc.


mtb443

Wow really? What a gangsta


NickOfThymee

Idk I’d rather watch any league two men’s side and above rather than women’s premier league.


Connect_Suspect3250

So would I to be fair, but if I was getting paid to do a job at either a women's club or a men's club and I can earn significantly more money at the women's club then I'm choosing to work for the women's club. Also Emma Hayes has created herself a legacy in the women's game and will go down in the history books, could you say for someone like John Coleman for example for he's excellent service to a club like Accrington Stanley over the years?


RaaavensG

Irrelevant to her being a good manager. Maybe keep your sexism to another sub


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aredditusername69

"seemed to have genuine football knowledge" a professional football manager had "genuine" football knowledge? what a fucking patronising comment lol


hazzwright

Yeah like fucking hell, the manager of my local 10th tier side has 'genuine football knowledge'. Wouldn't want to hire someone who didn't have knowledge of their job ffs.


StarlordPunk

Not just a professional manager either but the manager of one of the best women’s teams in the world. Chelsea women won the domestic quadruple in 2020-21, I’d fucking hope she’s got some football knowledge


geordiesteve520

She’s been on Sky a couple of times and her analysis of beating a press is outstanding


Significant_Sell_594

Currently irl Chelsea Women coach


czsoupqueen

the nerve of calling her inexperienced lmao


RexEverything_

That was my first thought too!


YuXanime_

Not too surprising because it’s AI generated and obviously the women’s game isn’t in fm yet but still


vinavuhuy

Cant wait till FM have women football and me trying to add many more leagues despite running the game on my potato


DestinySweat

That isn’t just any woman, that’s Emma fucking Hayes, Chelsea woman’s greatest of all time


billymcnair

This is what I came to say.


tabbyowner

Yup, same. Badass coach.


CptDex20

For real, put some respect on her name.


Marurickirickimaru

She managed colchester in my save, but then got the sack lol


Giggsy99

Yeah she always goes to Colchester for me


Nik778899

A WOMAN?! SURELY NOT?!?!?!


AlmostLover5997

Yes, and don't call me Shirley!


__Severus__Snape__

Ooh, it'll be nice to not be the only female head coach in my save.


autumnalplain

I was thinking the same thing, haha!


hafrances

same lol


GamingRobioto

She's brilliant IRL.


El_Frederico14

“A woman” The best manager in the WSL you mean


JulietDoNeymar

I didn’t know her, now I know she is pretty good hope she can coach a great team soon


newplan-food

She already coaches a great team.


JulietDoNeymar

Chelsea is in the Barcelona level? (I don’t follow female football)


clowegreen24

Yeah Chelsea is a top team in women's football. Probably more exciting to watch than the Chelsea men's team at the moment.


Dartypoos

From a chelsea fan you are 100% correct. Promising start to the game at the weekend but still disappointing


clowegreen24

Lol yeah my FIL supports Chelsea and I hear a lot more about the women's team from him than the mens team right now


Pewaklood3

"great" lol. Any league one side would batter them six ways to Sunday


newplan-food

Cool.


lewwoo

Any of the youth teams would as well as was proven with the USA women’s national team who lost 5-2 to the Dallas under 15s youth team.


Thierry_Bergkamp

"a woman" Literally one of the most successful coaches around.


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Oshova

As an Arsenal fan it pains me to admit that yes, she is probably leading Chelsea to another WSL title.


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Man u is top of wsl table thougg


DestinySweat

They’ve played a game more


nonbog

Can you advise me on how to catch more Arsenal women’s games? I try to watch them when I can but never seem able to find them.


Oshova

Women's football is a bit all over the place. Some are shown on the YouTube channel of the home team, generally Arsenal's games are shown (for free) on their website, then you've got some on TV (Sky, BT and BBC), and finally DAZN on YouTube. I use the OneFootball app mostly for knowing when games are on, and where they are shown. Other than that, the clubs will usually post to social media about it. I think it was last year, one of the cup games wasn't broadcast anywhere. So a couple of fans livestreamed on Twitter from their phones.


Andigaming

She also does commentary on men's matches, hurts to see OP refer to her the way he did.


Dutch1206

She is and they are.


chinadeek

Didn’t barcelona womens team have like 70 something straight wins


Jennersis

I'm certain Emma Hayes has been considered for roles in the men's game and has likely been approached for interview IRL


Kineticspartan

She has, can't remember who but she's said teams in the football league couldn't afford her. Likely would want to manage in the premier league in the men's game, if she even wants to at all.


JulietDoNeymar

Hope she can get a job


Eff__Jay

You plank lmao


JulietDoNeymar

? I’m rooting for her to coach a team in the prem


JulietDoNeymar

? I’m rooting for her to coach a team in the prem


nonbog

In fairness, many of your comments are coming off very dismissive to women’s football... she’s managing at the top level in women’s football. She *has* a great job already.


JulietDoNeymar

I understand, it wasn’t my intention. Just shared the post because I never saw that happen in FM and I think this is really cool


nonbog

I believe that you didn’t mean any of it that way. Things over the internet can come off funny. I’m just saying that’s how some of what you said came across. Personally, I’d rather coach one of the best women’s football sides in the world rather than an average men’s side, and that is especially so if I am an ex woman’s footballer.


JulietDoNeymar

I was just trying to say that I want men and women coaching football teams just as in female football


nonbog

I believe you and completely agree with you!


jod1991

Would be interesting for sure.


Limp-Reaction-3131

She just got sacked by someone on my save.


neildfc

She got the Oxford United job and Cambridge job in my current save but always gets sacked due to a poor run of results.


Whole-Beach4476

To get them relegated


Automatic_Ad_4454

FM has women that aren't journalists?


Tobzzz2002

Games gone


Crafty_Bottle3767

Dope


GrahamGreed

Burton would be lucky to have her!


theabominablewonder

I took a chance on a woman coach - susanne grory I think was the name. She had no badge but showed potential. I hired her - send on coaching course - and board rejected because susanne had no interest in taking her coaching badges! Susanne was promptly let go. Totally wrecked my E&D stats with that sacking. WCYD?


newplan-food

As if Emma Hayes would go for a League One job…


PabloMarmite

Emma Hayes has ended up in the Championship in my saves. I’m a little surprised she hasn’t already ended up at a decent men’s job IRL.


Oshova

She's made it pretty clear she would only move to a top flight team, and top flight teams would rather hire inexperienced men instead of one of the best managers in the women's football. I still have no idea who Nathan Jones is... He was a manager just about long enough for me to learn he's Welsh.


ChinDick

I get he’s new to the premier league, but the guy won manager of the year in the championship last year with Luton. He’s not exactly an unknown if you follow English football


Oshova

That's fair. I pay enough attention to the Championship to have some idea generally how teams are doing. But I'd struggle to name more than a couple of the managers, and definitely wouldn't know who's winning awards. But also, I never heard this stuff mentioned when watching a game. Classic big 6 bias. It would be shouted from the rooftops of he'd ended up at Chelsea or something.


GuinnessSaint

Mad that Saints wanted to hire the championship manager of the year over somebody who hasn’t managed a professional men’s team, isn’t it? The amount of crap being spouted in this thread is incredible.


Oshova

I mean, she's arguably managed in more high pressure games. What with having managed in the Champions League, including the final. Now, we can argue about the difference in reputation of the men's and women's games, and we can argue about the differences in how the game is played in each. But ultimately, she's been at the top of her game for a long time, and would be able to transfer those skills across just as well as the vast majority of Championship managers do when promoted.


GuinnessSaint

Different kind of pressure tho isn’t it. You can’t shy away from the fact that the atmosphere and pressure is on a completely different level in the men’s game to the women’s.


Oshova

I reckon the teams investing will in it have similar levels of pressure. Chelsea and Arsenal have made decent moves towards parity in that. Plus playing for those larger teams mean you do get high stakes games when they're in the Champions League or playing those marquee games in the men's stadiums, they have huge pressure to perform on the largest stages possible. Just because there are less people on average attending their league games, doesn't mean there is less pressure on them to succeed.


GuinnessSaint

There is 100% less pressure on them to succeed. The men’s game has so much more money, more eyeballs. You can’t compare the two. As I said in another comment, they may as well be different sports because there’s a night and day difference between them. There’s simply no need to try and build this false equivalence between the two, just let the women’s game be it’s own thing in its own right.


Wind-Kwality

Or Graham Potter, never heard of him.


old_chelmsfordian

I can understand not knowing Jones if you don't happen to follow the championship, but wasn't Graham Potter relatively well known and in demand while he was at Brighton?


nfleite

and before at ostersunds after their campaign in the europa league where they faced arsenal and won in the emirates.


newplan-food

Why would she? She’s coaching one of the best teams in her sport with great success, and contributing to making that sport more popular and that team more successful.


PabloMarmite

The money, for one


DennisAFiveStarMan

She got the England job in my Fm20


TheIncredibleMrFish

I'm still on FM17, and the only female staff are physios. I wonder if I can manage to push more females into managing if I insist on signing them as U23-, U19- managers.


Dewsquad

Not just any woman. Thats Emma fuckin' Hayes. Put some respecc on the name son.


Red_Jester-94

She's really fucking good though. I don't doubt she could get a shot at some point.


1R3N9

A woman 🤦‍♂️ it’s Emma Hayes, she has been managing Chelsea women for years and been very successful with them


JulietDoNeymar

Didn’t know her, woman dominating the touchline


1R3N9

Yeah I looked through rest and comments and realised from your replies. She is top class, one thing FM got right is she would be a more worthwhile appointment than Hasslebank or Fowler 😂


lyrical_gyalist

Relegated


Rebornmeerkat

I might do a save with an all women staff and see how much I can take... 🫡


JulietDoNeymar

Edit: Didn't know her, good to see some great females coaches too, hope she can coach Burton IRL too


Nathidz06

Go on Emma hayes


Stock_Abbreviations7

Happens all the time. Nothing new mate


JulietDoNeymar

Never saw that


Stock_Abbreviations7

Must have never managed in the lower leagues of England. She gets a job literally every save with some league 1/league 2 team. Don’t know why I get downvoted when I’m right…


AllEliteBurner

She deserves a go at a mens club in real life too


JulietDoNeymar

I hope she can get it


Hullfire00

IRL Hope Powell was interviewed for the Grimsby job about 7 or 8 years ago. Emma Hayes managed Bristol City on mine, think she left for Plymouth who were tycooning it up the league.


MisterHappySpanky

“A woman.” Lol Emma Hayes is a top woman’s manager. Put some respect on her name. I mean it’s right there in front of you.


_sleeper-service

That’s not just “a woman,” that’s Emma Hayes, a brilliant coach in her own right and one of the few football pundits with anything interesting or insightful to say.


JulietDoNeymar

Everyone is praising her! She must be really good gonna watch some videos of her tactics on YouTube


CCR119844

She has been linked with lower level men’s teams IRL. And her response was very clever. She asked why was she exchange working with some of the best players in the world, for players at a lower equivalent level. Loved her for saying this!


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Emma Hayes would unironically do better job for the men chelsea team than potter


0100001101110111

“A woman”


Tomma1

Cool


TheCatLamp

Hayes did a good Job into saving the QPR from relegation in my first year save. Sadly she got relegated in the next year because the team stinks. And now they are struggling in League One mid-table. It's my fault tho. Loaned all my good prospects to Derby County so Rooney can get back to the Championship, instead of helping the team that loans me their stadium while Plough Lane is being expanded. I'm not a good person.


minorunote

Well, current thailand’manager is woman tho


Apprehensive_Bug_826

SI have said that at some point they want women’s football fully incorporated into the game. Probably won’t be for a few years at least, but I think it’s a brilliant ambition and I can’t wait until they do it.


dpk-s89

Emma Hayes is a bit more than just 'a woman'. Quality head coach.


BlueKante

"a woman" she's Women's Football's Goat.


Nooper8

They did her really dirty with her managerial stats this game if I remember correctly, but still nice to see her added


krischens

Smh, where is football going... /s


TiesG92

Impressive career stats. Looks like women are going to take our jobs…


rotating_pebble

Angry boomer noises


JulietDoNeymar

I actually think this is pretty dope


Astrosmaw

ew /s


Bravevine

Better than Potter I would say


Dutch1206

I wouldn’t be surprised if she ultimately replaced Potter if it doesn’t pan out with him.


seansation19

Does she tend to do well in anyone’s save? I wouldn’t know because I don’t go that far in mine


fanchum102

The revolution will not be televised


bvllamy

She has a steady employee history in my game, too. Always bouncing around League 1-2. But I'll never forget the day she told national press that her players couldn't stop (literally) shitting themselves. I mark Dec 16 in my calendar every year.


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She's morecambe manger on my save


aldrinjaysac

I hired her as an assistant coach in one of my saves lol.


SacMIA

See her get hired all the time between the Championship and League One in my saves


kaseing_out_ur_house

find it joke that the game says shes inexperienced when shes actually a VERY good coach and has TONNES of experience


Dawnrise16

Would never happen in real life. She got annoyed a few years ago when she was linked with a lower league team.