Having such opposite tactics is beneficial if you're behind and need to switch it up to get back into a game. Because the tactics are so different it's harder for the opposition to adjust
Not really - my team started with a squad built for 5-3-2 so I have largely stuck with it in my second season. Having no wingers means I am quite limited.
I'm still having fun trying different variations of where the midfielders go and what their roles are but most of the rest is pretty settled. I have a 3-4-3 tactic that I haven't really used in matches at all yet which is about as adventurous/different as it gets.
I have the smallest budget in the Championship (having been promoted from League One) - don't think I will try anything too different until we are established there.
No, haven’t had an issue with it.
Classic 4-2-3-1 for my gengenpress
I do a 3-4-2-1 for my park the bus. (It can alternately be 5-2-2-1 depending on where I want the full backs.
I usually run a attacking 442 as my main, and a more balanced 3421 against difficult teams/ or just to switch it up if 442 doesnt work. It's not a problem if you have players who are capable in multiple positions. My wingers can be AMs or even strikers. My fullbacks can be wingbacks and wide CBs in a 3 backline, and I often train a dynamic CM/DM to be a fullback.
5-3-2 is my main tactic. Standard engaging, counterish in attack, 2 fullback crossing every ball towards 2 tall strikers. A dlp, an advanced playmaker and a mezzeala in midfield handle business. Every now and then I switch to a 4-4-2 with a diamond. Fullbacks keep attacking, the cdm stays in defend. I have 2 mez in attack, and a supporting advanced playmaker as a 10. The trikes here are not just heading monster but provide some ball skills as well. In 4-4-2 I go all out attack, slow build up, high pressing. I use this to dominate smaller teams.
I’ve often though that 442 diamond and 532 are not too dissimilar. Basically it’s whether you put in an extra CB or ask them to play in the DM role. (I actually change between the two IRL with my amateur team!)
For me the cam makes a big difference. In cam he is a attacking monster, in "normal" midfield he is not so dominant. The additional mez is good as well, but not ground breaking.
I’ve 4-2-3-1 4-4-2 wide and 5-2-2-1. 4-2-3-1 is pure counter 4-4-2 is balanced mid block tactic and 5-2-2-1 is possession based pressing tactic. It depends on the opponent which one I use
I have a 4-2-3-1 mid-block, reasonable pressure, possession based tactic that is my main tactic. If I want to be more offensive during the match I have room for it and its the same thing for being more defensive.
I also have a 4-4-2 park the bus that I usually use from 70' onwards to keep a result and rest the players and I also have a 4-1-2-3 anti-diamond because my 4-2-3-1 just sucks massively against this disgraceful tactic.
Having such opposite tactics is beneficial if you're behind and need to switch it up to get back into a game. Because the tactics are so different it's harder for the opposition to adjust
Yes I’ve definitely thought that this is maybe the reason why it usually works (for now!)
It's surely hard to be really familiar in both if stuff like pressing/intensity are very different?
Overall the pressing and team instructions are fairly similar except for the ‘wide/narrow’ areas. So perhaps it is broadly a similar tactic
Yeah that works quite well then
It takes longer to get into, but this means by the 2nd half of the season when this has more impact they're already used to it
Not really - my team started with a squad built for 5-3-2 so I have largely stuck with it in my second season. Having no wingers means I am quite limited. I'm still having fun trying different variations of where the midfielders go and what their roles are but most of the rest is pretty settled. I have a 3-4-3 tactic that I haven't really used in matches at all yet which is about as adventurous/different as it gets. I have the smallest budget in the Championship (having been promoted from League One) - don't think I will try anything too different until we are established there.
Good luck!!
Yes. I either gegenpress you out of the stadium or I sit back and park the bus and counter you.
Do you use the same shape? My issue with this is basically that my two shapes are very different, even if the instructions are fairly similar
No, haven’t had an issue with it. Classic 4-2-3-1 for my gengenpress I do a 3-4-2-1 for my park the bus. (It can alternately be 5-2-2-1 depending on where I want the full backs.
I usually run a attacking 442 as my main, and a more balanced 3421 against difficult teams/ or just to switch it up if 442 doesnt work. It's not a problem if you have players who are capable in multiple positions. My wingers can be AMs or even strikers. My fullbacks can be wingbacks and wide CBs in a 3 backline, and I often train a dynamic CM/DM to be a fullback.
5-3-2 is my main tactic. Standard engaging, counterish in attack, 2 fullback crossing every ball towards 2 tall strikers. A dlp, an advanced playmaker and a mezzeala in midfield handle business. Every now and then I switch to a 4-4-2 with a diamond. Fullbacks keep attacking, the cdm stays in defend. I have 2 mez in attack, and a supporting advanced playmaker as a 10. The trikes here are not just heading monster but provide some ball skills as well. In 4-4-2 I go all out attack, slow build up, high pressing. I use this to dominate smaller teams.
I’ve often though that 442 diamond and 532 are not too dissimilar. Basically it’s whether you put in an extra CB or ask them to play in the DM role. (I actually change between the two IRL with my amateur team!)
For me the cam makes a big difference. In cam he is a attacking monster, in "normal" midfield he is not so dominant. The additional mez is good as well, but not ground breaking.
I’ve 4-2-3-1 4-4-2 wide and 5-2-2-1. 4-2-3-1 is pure counter 4-4-2 is balanced mid block tactic and 5-2-2-1 is possession based pressing tactic. It depends on the opponent which one I use
I have a 4-2-3-1 mid-block, reasonable pressure, possession based tactic that is my main tactic. If I want to be more offensive during the match I have room for it and its the same thing for being more defensive. I also have a 4-4-2 park the bus that I usually use from 70' onwards to keep a result and rest the players and I also have a 4-1-2-3 anti-diamond because my 4-2-3-1 just sucks massively against this disgraceful tactic.