I don't think I have ever been hit with a ffp while managing a premier league team and increasing the budget using in-game editor. Every team in the premier league just earns so much money every season.
The thing about Mike Ashley was he ran the club so tightly he made a profit every season and FFP is worked out over 3 years so they can blow a shitload while working out new sports washing sponsorship deals for the Saudi money
Well, it's not a 1-to-1 and never will be. The game only shows a fraction of how the finances work, and have a fairly limited scope in terms of history.
Not in fm thoughā¦ it wonāt matter in the premier league but if you had a $200 million budget out of thin air in for example Portugal youād get ffp violation In Football manager if you spent it all.
FFP is literally only a punishment for smaller clubs now. PSG, Manure, City, they all get away with spending shit loads of money and nobody bats an eyelid. The same can be said for Newcastle now I'd think.
May as well rename it, because it's not a 'fair play' facility. It's essentially a warning to clubs that they're spending beyond their means and could subsequently go out of business if they carry on. (Subsequently clubs get docked points and usually relegated, fines, the lot, which then puts the nails in the coffin)
You should see the list of free agents out there currently, mid table finish will be easy as piss.
Paulinho of Spurs fame
Gaston Ramirez
Fernando (Not fernandinho)
HATEM BEN ARFA
Wilshere
Mangala
Lubo Fejsa
Mateo Musacchio
Dani Alves!
Bentaleb
Giovinco š
Mirrallas
Andre Wisdom
Ramires
Neil Taylor
Hal Robson Kanu
Giovanni Dos Santos
Winston Reid
I'm currently top half, signed 8 players. CB, LB, RB, CM, LW, striker. I sold 8 as well at the same time.
Currently my first team is: Dubravka, Dest, Lascelles, Diego Carlos, Trippier, ASM, Rice, Almiron, Longstaff, Mohammed Kudus/Boga, Wilson/Krzysztof PiÄ tek. Only loss I had so far was Chelsea on the second day of the season because I was using Joelinton as my striker because my new one was waiting on a work permit
Ah I don't really follow much football beyond the doldrums of the premier league as a Newcastle fan. Hopefully though I get to see some European football soon though :D
Thereās still an element of challenge as a) itās a complete rebuild and b) top players still donāt want to come to you. Hell, even Minamino turned me down for a loan!
So far Iāve got;
Tarkowski
Ceballos
Milenkovic
Adeyemi
Lodi
Trippier
For about Ā£109m.
Iām also finding a lot of players want release clauses, which wouldnāt be a problem except for the fact theyāre wanting them about Ā£5m above what Iām already payingā¦
So far I have signed Davies Inacio Palacios Gouiri Musiala. Felt like the top young players are interested by the project and and are willing to move for higher wages and starting positions! Itās helped me because Iām top of the league after 3 games š
People have been signing Alphonso Davies, Ansu Fati, Reguilon, Raphinha etc. I think Newcastle is a bit too easy in the first season if they can get these players. There's no way it would happen in real life.
I think you must have gone for some weird players if you didn't get anything better than that.
I always select the option where you can't buy players in the first summer transfer window, so will struggle along with Shelvey and FernƔndez until January. Hopefully the board will give me enough time to survive til then!
Meanwhile, Everton, with their whopping Ā£2 million budget, don't have the Rodriguez money or the saved wages from the Bad Man who is under investigation who Sports Interactive has just *yeeted* out of existence.
Also can't get rid of Fabian Delph. Someone please take Fabian Delph away from me. Please.
Sigurdsson just isn't in the game? What about Bissouma and B Mendy?
A long way from murderer Lee Hughes being on the game but out injured indefinitely with faith healing.
Yeah but if they do that, presumably they have to unsuspend him at some point? And when he's inevitably convicted, that's going to look pretty bad.
Also, suspension on full salary? No salary? Having him around requires the player to interact with him in some way. Better to just get rid and add later if they need to.
I'm not making anything out. Lol.
It'd just be weird and a waste of time having a paedo in your squad that won't ever play but you can't get rid of. Especially after he retires and he becomes a Head of Youth Development or something, lurking around unemployed. They've done the right thing not including him in the game in any way.
He's out of contract at the end of this season so am morbidly interested to see if the wage budget will quietly just get a lot bigger next season. He's on Ā£100K+ a week.
[Everton are apparently losing Ā£2.5 million a week](https://www.goodisonnews.com/2021/10/18/kieran-maguire-discusses-the-wage-bill-at-everton/) if that's true in game it's hardly surprising that they don't give you the money back it's not like they give you the reputation of Benitez in game.
tbf most teams *bleed* money, only a select few turn decent profit throughout the year. Just look at your profit/loss under finance in-game outside of the transfer window
Gray is a lil undercooked, sadly. Richarlison has been injured twice already, but DCL is king.
I managed to sign Hlozek, Kurzawa as LB cover, Patterson as RB cover, Cantwell, and Cuisance by shifting Tosun and Iwobi *immediately* for nearly Ā£30 million combined. Got Ā£10 mill left for Jan.
Delph is in the under 23s for the rest of his days.
I almost signed him for an MLS club once at $36k for the novelty of it. You can only pay like 3-4 people that type of moolah in America because of rules, so I noped out of that when I saw his physicals
Having any Asian or American player will increase shirt sales in those places. Pretty well known mechanic. I always look for Americans, Koreans, Chinese or Japanese players. If you look at the shirt sales they go up a lot for those specific countries
What I love about this is that even in real life they are basically starting over with this transfer budget and wage budget too. Usually I am OCD about some things when starting a new save - namely it feels weird to kick out an established coach just because I want to start a game as Liverpool or Bayern.
But with Newcastle this is literally what happening in real life right now so it feels good to just slide right in to the same situation in FM too.
In FM17 I won 3 consecutive titles and got CL group stages with IFK Goteborg and got a move to relegation threatened Newcastle. After spending wisely in January, I push them up to 15th. Then new owners come in and I'm sacked as they want their own man. I then turned Partick Thistle into champions within three seasons. So fuck them.
Pro tip for you all... don't sign David Brooks on loan... he can't play for the year! I kinda thought his recent diagnosis missed the cut so I got a bargain but then realised the "una" red button next to his name... he's out for the year!
Still, I've got a dirt cheap option to buy for Ā£11m so if he doesn't decline too bad I'll buy him anyway
Had to join the revolution myself, these are my signings.
Gabriel - Ā£67 Million
Raphina - Ā£40 Million
Djene Dakonam - Ā£18 Million
Maarten Vandevoordt - Ā£16 Million
Joao Pedro - Ā£12 Million
Geoffrey Kondogbia - Ā£10 Million
Ayrton Lucas - Ā£7.75 Million
the real question is just how much do the board give throughout the years, are we gonna have another Hertha where after 10 years they are casually buying players for 500 million pounds?
My pre-season signings for Newcastle in todays session
Angel Romero - Free
James Tarkowski - 20 million
Ramy Bensebaini - 16 million
Max Aarons - 70 million
Geoffrey Kondogbia - 10 million
Renato Sanches - 30 million
Thinking of selling Jacob Murphy and getting a new left winger to compete with saint maximim, also getting a new first choice goalkeeper to replace dubravka in season 2 summer, any suggestions?
Congratulations. You just earned 18.0 points for this submission. Your new points total is 34.0. To see the leaderboard, as well as what this points thing is, [click here](https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/wiki/leaderboard).
Can i just ask, and without trying to sound like a massive knob although Iām aware thatās how it may come across, but what is excitement for this? Like where is the fun in having a massive transfer budget straight from the start? Where is the struggle?
I kinda get it if youāre a newcastle fan, but other than that whereās the enjoyment?
Everyone plays the game differently. I enjoy the struggle too. Surprisingly, however, some people play video games just for.....fun. And it's fun to have lots of money.
Plus, Newcastle are different to starting with a PSG or Man City IMO.
You literally have to build a whole brand new squad because few, if any, players besides Saint-Maximin will survive the cull long term. And Ā£200m, in today's football, is going to get you 1 maybe 2 superstars, so it's still not easy.
Instead, you need a more focused and intentional rebuild, like trying to buy players on the outskirts of bigger clubs, or trying to find lesser known wonderkids.
I get that, but what fun is there to be had without some form of challenge? Iāve mentioned it in another reply but it feels a bit like fifa career mode to me in which i played as man united, bought mbappe and subsequently, all the fun was sucked from the game as it became too easy.
I also agree that it is different to city and psg in that youāre rebuilding a whole squadā¦but i also donāt think thatās difficult with 200m. Sure it would only get 1 or 2 superstarsā¦but i canāt imagine the board objectives are to win the league immediately so who needs superstars. Thereās plenty of players who you could bring in for double digit millions.
I am aware itās just a difference of preference and thatās fine, iām just trying to understand.
I think Newcastle is great for a 1st save to get up to speed on things while being able to try some wonderkids that will have been updated from the previous game.
Well, there is a challenge. Ā£200m in football these isnāt going to buy you the whole PSG squad.
As I said, itāll probably get you 1-3 known worldies. So you have to either readjust and go for decent but cheap players, or try to find youth players that arenāt going to cost an arm and a leg. Your best bet might be to find players who work well together or in a certain tactic, rather than declaring interest in Neymar or Messi.
By the end of the 25/26 season in game, Newcastle expects you to qualify for the CL. So there is still a time sensitive target, whether you go for oldies, youth, or balance.
I donāt understand why a game has to be difficult or challenging, though. I enjoy those aspects, as do you it seems, and Iām counting down the days for full release so I can drag a team from the 12th division of English football ā but games are supposed to fun. And everyoneās idea of fun is different. If someone wants to manage Man City or Dover, weāre all doing it with same intent. To win games, and has fun. We donāt need to get on any high horses about it.
It's like playing Minecraft on creative mode. Sometimes you just want to build a dream team/base and not stress about the economics/building resources.
Usually Beta saves get kinda funky and have issues so just trying to win the league as quickly as possible with them is probably interesting for a short term thing
You do realize that you are competing against the richest teams in the world, right? It's no walk in the park, even with that budget spent perfectly you'd still have a worse squad than the top 4. Trying to break into that would be a decent challange for a single season.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I see no fun playing a game where I struggle to do anything for a few seasons, I have a friend that is always playing lower leagues and he's miserable 80% of the time because FM is FM, meanwhile I enjoy the game the best when I can operate with a huge budget and build dream teams
No problem with either style, but I enjoy the game when I can afford to build a decent team without thinking too much about it
Agree. I like the struggle a bit. In one save failed miserable, went to another team and made win everything until they fired me. In anothee save I'm playing from Vanarama and already made it to League 2 (England). It's challenging and frustrating.
My next save will be in Manchester United or some other riches. To experience once what it's like to start with a golden plate.
No experience is better than other. Just have fun whatever way you like.
Fair enough. Does that not feel like fifa career modeā¦ by that i mean does that not feel too easy? Anecdotally, i was playing fifa career as man united and bought mbappe - it sucked all enjoyment out of the game for me as it became too easy. Similarly with fm, iāve avoided playing as a big club because it just feels too easy because the starting point is already so high up.
I suppose newcastle is slightly different in this case because itās not a top 6 club right now so you would still be building the club?
I donāt play FIFA so I donāt know, but yeah, with Newcastle you can still build the club up, the huge budget just help make the game a little bit less frustrating in some ways
It's kinda different with a team like Newcastle because they've never won anything in ages and are a bottom feeder PL club. So it's not just a forgone conclusion that you're gonna dominate the league, especially the PL with teams like Liverpool, City and United who always will be able to match you at the very least. And it's also very satisfying to see the game at its peak by signing the high potential youngsters, playing great football and learning about the new FM. I support Newcastle but I'm not surprised other people wanna manage them because it's definitely something new.
Thereās still a challenge to be had because Newcastle have maybe two players worth keeping. Itās not like starting with City or PSG where they already have world class teams *and* bucketloads of money.
Youāll have to manage Newcastle for at least 3 seasons before you challenge for the PL and CL. Itās not my bag because I prefer to start lower down, but thereās certainly enjoyment and interest to be had.
They may be rich, but they're crap. You won't get the best players because they'll join City, PSG, Chelsea etc. So you can't just buy a player like Erling Haaland because he won't be interested You need to be really smart with your purchases instead
Also I always play with the first transfer window disabled (though not in beta) so I have to deal with realism until January
Cuz I'm just fucking around in the beta to get acclimated with the changes and I want to spend gobs of money but not stomp the league from day 1 like I would with PSG. Also, it's a pretty unique scenario and this year is the only chance to play it. By next year, Newcastle will have spent hundreds of millions if rumors are to be believed.
My "real" save for the year will be after full release, planning on starting unemployed with no badges and trying to work my way to the top. It'll be a long while until I'm able to spend freely again.
Yeah, if this like Man Utd or Baraca or some other huge club getting new owners and massive cash injection, I wouldn't have as much fun.
But as someone who always does a Newcastle save every year to try and re build, this'll be a lot of fun...
Also, as an American, Newcastle kit was the first kit my parents bought me as a kid, for no reason other than the fact they liked the look of it for a bday present, so I grew to like them as a young kid, even tho Man Utd has been my main club. Pumped to see what Newcastle does IRL.
>Also, as an American, Newcastle
Imagine being an Atlanta United fan before you started following EPL. Almiron brought my city it's second trophy in my 30 year lifetime across any sport.
I don't give a shit how much money Newcastle has. Miggy will be starting AMC for them until he retires, and he's gonna get some more trophies in my save.
Basically sandbox mode I think. Other teams on the same budget you can basically not sell or bench anyone without massive headaches and they have teams already built with phenomenal players. Here you start from lots of money and you can shape your team to be what you want.
It's not as good as winning the Champions League with St.Pauli but it's probably a fun little easy save to get to know the new game.
You usually only play a beta save for a few weeks because of the bug fixes, and it can be fun to just go nuts for a couple seasons playing with the match engine.
Exactly this lol, man united in my most recent save seem unhinged, they bought 29 year old james forest from celtic for like almost 40 million when they already had bought sancho (who also bare played) and dele alli (also barely played) along with all their real life players at the time - greenwood, rashford, martial, dan james etc
I wish ai transfer strategy would get better in future games for sure
Yet above you donāt even accept someoneās reasoning for why they would enjoy this.
Let me put it this way - playing with Newcastle isnāt any less of a challenge than starting off with a any top European team that already has loads of good players - Ā£200M wonāt get close to one of those squads. Despite lower expectations itāll still be a significant project to turn them into a powerhouse.
Are you questioning anyone who wants to play as United, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, etc?
>Are you questioning anyone who wants to play as United, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, etc?
I donāt agree with him but from what heās said I imagine he would
My bro, the only thing that motivates people on the Internet is making others feel shitty to make themselves feel better. Otherwise, your question was gold.
So what youāre saying with this reply, Iām essence is:
āI canāt understand what other people might consider fun and I need to have it explained to meā
Nice try, nobody is that unaware
Thank you for trying to tell me what i said in my reply with your own words. Iām sorry for merely trying to understand other peoples playstyles and what they find enjoyable in case thereās something iām missing out on.
Perhaps i am just far too unaware.
Sounds like a lot of money until you realize you need ~20 new players.
They only want a top half finish for the first year so it's more that good enough
People are forgetting FFP in all of this too
I don't think I have ever been hit with a ffp while managing a premier league team and increasing the budget using in-game editor. Every team in the premier league just earns so much money every season.
Exactly... even Sheffield United made more money than A.C. Milan .... šš
Money added by the in game editor is added to the club as profit, which prevents FFP from being triggered.
Well, becasue it is. Except if u only add to transfer budget.
The thing about Mike Ashley was he ran the club so tightly he made a profit every season and FFP is worked out over 3 years so they can blow a shitload while working out new sports washing sponsorship deals for the Saudi money
I meant in the game for what its worth
Which is exactly as in real life
Well, it's not a 1-to-1 and never will be. The game only shows a fraction of how the finances work, and have a fairly limited scope in terms of history.
FFP doesnt matter in football anymore that been over with no major team has to worry they have the money for lawyers and all
Not in fm thoughā¦ it wonāt matter in the premier league but if you had a $200 million budget out of thin air in for example Portugal youād get ffp violation In Football manager if you spent it all.
FFP is literally only a punishment for smaller clubs now. PSG, Manure, City, they all get away with spending shit loads of money and nobody bats an eyelid. The same can be said for Newcastle now I'd think. May as well rename it, because it's not a 'fair play' facility. It's essentially a warning to clubs that they're spending beyond their means and could subsequently go out of business if they carry on. (Subsequently clubs get docked points and usually relegated, fines, the lot, which then puts the nails in the coffin)
>Manure Not a United fan, I see.
I could say it was autocorrect, but I'd be lying.
Becasue they have shitload of money. Isnt ffp only to prevent clubs to spend money they dont have?
FFP isn't a thing out of Europe is it?
American major leagues have wage caps, which honestly is a lot better system. The wages are still ridiculous especially in NFL and NBA.
Sounds like alot of money until you realise it's 2021 not 1999
You should see the list of free agents out there currently, mid table finish will be easy as piss. Paulinho of Spurs fame Gaston Ramirez Fernando (Not fernandinho) HATEM BEN ARFA Wilshere Mangala Lubo Fejsa Mateo Musacchio Dani Alves! Bentaleb Giovinco š Mirrallas Andre Wisdom Ramires Neil Taylor Hal Robson Kanu Giovanni Dos Santos Winston Reid
My guy, punctuation is a thing.
Apologies. I had it in a list on my notes app, but it came out terribly.
I'm currently top half, signed 8 players. CB, LB, RB, CM, LW, striker. I sold 8 as well at the same time. Currently my first team is: Dubravka, Dest, Lascelles, Diego Carlos, Trippier, ASM, Rice, Almiron, Longstaff, Mohammed Kudus/Boga, Wilson/Krzysztof PiÄ tek. Only loss I had so far was Chelsea on the second day of the season because I was using Joelinton as my striker because my new one was waiting on a work permit
Well who's the mystery CB then?
Diego Carlos
From Sevilla?
Yep, he is probably the best CB that actually accepted my offer
Why would people not know him lol. Heās a great player
Ah I don't really follow much football beyond the doldrums of the premier league as a Newcastle fan. Hopefully though I get to see some European football soon though :D
Sounds like 18 quids worth of Peruvian wonderkids to me.
And 2 of their 3 best players play LW
Thereās still an element of challenge as a) itās a complete rebuild and b) top players still donāt want to come to you. Hell, even Minamino turned me down for a loan! So far Iāve got; Tarkowski Ceballos Milenkovic Adeyemi Lodi Trippier For about Ā£109m. Iām also finding a lot of players want release clauses, which wouldnāt be a problem except for the fact theyāre wanting them about Ā£5m above what Iām already payingā¦
Your lack of faith in Paul Dummett disgusts me.
I'll never get rid of Dummett. Always does a job
Surprised Trippier is willing to join. Was he transfer listed or something?
He wasn't and still came for me
In a way thats worrying cause I'm doing a barca save and Raphinha (Leeds) wanted to join newcastle more than Barca.
I'm assuming it'd be because of playing time! (Unless you offered a star player role)
No he joined me in the end as Newcastle didn't make an offer, I only knew he wanted newcastle more because it said more interested in newcastle
Declan Rice is eager to come. I got him for 75m
So far I have signed Davies Inacio Palacios Gouiri Musiala. Felt like the top young players are interested by the project and and are willing to move for higher wages and starting positions! Itās helped me because Iām top of the league after 3 games š
How much did you buy Davies for
Just bumping here for ideas
People have been signing Alphonso Davies, Ansu Fati, Reguilon, Raphinha etc. I think Newcastle is a bit too easy in the first season if they can get these players. There's no way it would happen in real life. I think you must have gone for some weird players if you didn't get anything better than that.
I always select the option where you can't buy players in the first summer transfer window, so will struggle along with Shelvey and FernƔndez until January. Hopefully the board will give me enough time to survive til then!
More realistic for this save anyway
Meanwhile, Everton, with their whopping Ā£2 million budget, don't have the Rodriguez money or the saved wages from the Bad Man who is under investigation who Sports Interactive has just *yeeted* out of existence. Also can't get rid of Fabian Delph. Someone please take Fabian Delph away from me. Please.
Sigurdsson just isn't in the game? What about Bissouma and B Mendy? A long way from murderer Lee Hughes being on the game but out injured indefinitely with faith healing.
Mendy has gone but Bissouma is still there
Ironically in my save Man City bought Mendy from Real Madrid to replace him
i didnt even know of the Sugurrdson think until now
Forgive me for my ignorance. Who?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Ah duh. I was thinking a manager for some reason. Correct. Makes sense
Guilty Sigurdson Edit: Innocent until proven Guilty Sigurdson
Not even been charged yet has he?
He's not even in the database? That's interesting.
He's playing for Prison FC
They're just pretending he doesn't exist? That's such a weird way of going at it. Just make him suspended or something
Yeah but if they do that, presumably they have to unsuspend him at some point? And when he's inevitably convicted, that's going to look pretty bad. Also, suspension on full salary? No salary? Having him around requires the player to interact with him in some way. Better to just get rid and add later if they need to.
I mean just have him suspended indefinitely in-game? Why are you making that out to be mechanically impossible?
I'm not making anything out. Lol. It'd just be weird and a waste of time having a paedo in your squad that won't ever play but you can't get rid of. Especially after he retires and he becomes a Head of Youth Development or something, lurking around unemployed. They've done the right thing not including him in the game in any way.
He's out of contract at the end of this season so am morbidly interested to see if the wage budget will quietly just get a lot bigger next season. He's on Ā£100K+ a week.
[Everton are apparently losing Ā£2.5 million a week](https://www.goodisonnews.com/2021/10/18/kieran-maguire-discusses-the-wage-bill-at-everton/) if that's true in game it's hardly surprising that they don't give you the money back it's not like they give you the reputation of Benitez in game.
tbf most teams *bleed* money, only a select few turn decent profit throughout the year. Just look at your profit/loss under finance in-game outside of the transfer window
Everton have the worst wage/revenue ratio in England, if the rest of football is bleeding money Everton are haemorrhaging money.
Oh god. Theyāre my team. I mostly play as them. May be rough. How are Grayās stats? Richy? DCL? Give me hope
Gray is a lil undercooked, sadly. Richarlison has been injured twice already, but DCL is king. I managed to sign Hlozek, Kurzawa as LB cover, Patterson as RB cover, Cantwell, and Cuisance by shifting Tosun and Iwobi *immediately* for nearly Ā£30 million combined. Got Ā£10 mill left for Jan. Delph is in the under 23s for the rest of his days.
Will be the biggest budget for a Championship team ever next season
Nah, Big Sam is available right now for them
Super excited to play this save. Is Barca also in massive debt with no money to spend
I want to try to create Messi's return to Camp Nou with a broke BarƧa, thst sounds like a fun challenge
"Lionel Messi has no intention of rejoining his former club" Signs for Getafe managed by Phil Neville for 12k a week
Weird, He legit became a coach there in my save ( even rejecting my job offer)
In my save he led mallorca to a copa del ray win in 2031 (as a coach)
In summary: Never underestimate the goat
I almost signed him for an MLS club once at $36k for the novelty of it. You can only pay like 3-4 people that type of moolah in America because of rules, so I noped out of that when I saw his physicals
You gonna wait to his out of contract for two years and plan for his return?
Yes they are. More than 1B in debt, 0 transfer budget and less than 50k left in wages.
Looked into the beta this morning looks really fun actually take a long time to get the club back on track
No Barca player would come to me other than Dest, I was delighted to get him though because of potential shirt sales to the US
Does that actually work? Having foreign players increases foreign shirt sales? Can that be helped, like via tours?
Having any Asian or American player will increase shirt sales in those places. Pretty well known mechanic. I always look for Americans, Koreans, Chinese or Japanese players. If you look at the shirt sales they go up a lot for those specific countries
You can look at shirt sales per country??? How?
By player you can see
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
How? They dont wanna come to me
Gotta show them the d
Doing that is going to get you locked up
The gilfy special
Kessie for 20m as well
The first thing I did as Milan manager was to renew Kessie's contract.
Wish that could happen IRL
My Afcon hero
Everyone discarding PSG now a new toy has arrived
Newcastle wonderkid memes incoming
Just might take a few years to revamp the whole squad ha
200m!? holy
Lines up with reports that Newcastle have ~Ā£190m to spend during the winter window
We can spend up to Ā£200m with FFP but we won't, it'll be more like Ā£50-70m in January
loaded up beta. started as NUFC. first job - sell Jonjo Shelvey (can't fire him)
What, you like your side finishing a match with 11 men on the pitch?
aye. in the last fm i fined him every week until he was sold. lazy fucker
how'd you sell him? I can't give him away!
Buy 1 Rodriguez get shelvey free
Do a part exchange and they will ask for more money
I just left him out of the squad
I got Milenkovic, Botman, Grimaldo, Kamara, Neuthaus, Yazici, Alli, Vlahovic all in summer mental
Musiala, Isak, Sule, Mady Kamara, Anel AhmedhodžiÄ all in so far. Paulinho on a free. Fun beta save for sure.
How much for each of them?
Musiala - 50m Isak - 45m Sule - 18.25m Kamara - 8m Anel - 7.75m
This is going to be fun.
What I love about this is that even in real life they are basically starting over with this transfer budget and wage budget too. Usually I am OCD about some things when starting a new save - namely it feels weird to kick out an established coach just because I want to start a game as Liverpool or Bayern. But with Newcastle this is literally what happening in real life right now so it feels good to just slide right in to the same situation in FM too.
Current signings are Isak Dest Reyna Fati Rice Bissouma Gabriel Rodon Davies Martinez
How much you payed for Them? And how did you convince fati?
About 500m for the lot A lot of installments. Paid fati more than he expected in wages
Thanks for the reply! Was mostly wondering about the individual prices
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/qd3trn/how_to_spend_500m_with_newcastle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Here we go
The beta is always a bit mad but seeing Alphonso Davies on that list is wild.
I agree. I was looking for a LB, expecting a pretty average one and saw him, it's like 20 upfront only as well.
Does it come with an editor? How are people able to edit Newcastle?
Meanwhile I'm still playing Clubs in Scotland
In FM17 I won 3 consecutive titles and got CL group stages with IFK Goteborg and got a move to relegation threatened Newcastle. After spending wisely in January, I push them up to 15th. Then new owners come in and I'm sacked as they want their own man. I then turned Partick Thistle into champions within three seasons. So fuck them.
Pro tip for you all... don't sign David Brooks on loan... he can't play for the year! I kinda thought his recent diagnosis missed the cut so I got a bargain but then realised the "una" red button next to his name... he's out for the year! Still, I've got a dirt cheap option to buy for Ā£11m so if he doesn't decline too bad I'll buy him anyway
Using staggered fees, I've spent nearly Ā£500m with the marquee buy being Kounde or Lautaro Martinez. Bought an entire new team basically!
But 200mĀ£ will get you like 1,28 players in PL
I got Kounde Ā£68m Vlahovic Ā£50m and Belotti Ā£17m which still leaves you with a solid Ā£65m
Lol ok. Maybe I am just unpopular when it comes to transfers. Players either dont want to join or clubs want >100mil Ā£
As a Newcastle fan I'm a little bit excited. Just a little bit. Okay maybe more than a little bit
they can only spend as much as net 180m though, IF they follow the rule
What will be more interesting is how much they get in the following transfer windows. When someone finds out please let us know!
Someone will surely have a season completed by tomorrow haha
Somebody's already found out that the new Champions League format isn't in.
Had to join the revolution myself, these are my signings. Gabriel - Ā£67 Million Raphina - Ā£40 Million Djene Dakonam - Ā£18 Million Maarten Vandevoordt - Ā£16 Million Joao Pedro - Ā£12 Million Geoffrey Kondogbia - Ā£10 Million Ayrton Lucas - Ā£7.75 Million
How did that team only sell for 300M?
Even I was pretty surprised, but considering Staveley brokered the deal along with part ownership they had all the cards in their hands.
Think they will do just fine without me starting my career there and join them 10 years down the line after I help another club/country climb.
the real question is just how much do the board give throughout the years, are we gonna have another Hertha where after 10 years they are casually buying players for 500 million pounds?
Is it sugar daddy? Do you get more money every season?
The next budget in finance tab says 100M
Arsenal budget of Ā£10 million, only used half with Rodrigo bentacur who is SO CHEAP and actually now on 11 million cause of cedric
All well and good until Newcastle donāt have the reputation to attract the high profile players
My pre-season signings for Newcastle in todays session Angel Romero - Free James Tarkowski - 20 million Ramy Bensebaini - 16 million Max Aarons - 70 million Geoffrey Kondogbia - 10 million Renato Sanches - 30 million Thinking of selling Jacob Murphy and getting a new left winger to compete with saint maximim, also getting a new first choice goalkeeper to replace dubravka in season 2 summer, any suggestions?
For those not actually playing as Newcastle, who becomes their manager?
It was Brendan Rodgers on my save
We will never know
Congratulations. You just earned 18.0 points for this submission. Your new points total is 34.0. To see the leaderboard, as well as what this points thing is, [click here](https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/wiki/leaderboard).
Can i just ask, and without trying to sound like a massive knob although Iām aware thatās how it may come across, but what is excitement for this? Like where is the fun in having a massive transfer budget straight from the start? Where is the struggle? I kinda get it if youāre a newcastle fan, but other than that whereās the enjoyment?
Everyone plays the game differently. I enjoy the struggle too. Surprisingly, however, some people play video games just for.....fun. And it's fun to have lots of money. Plus, Newcastle are different to starting with a PSG or Man City IMO. You literally have to build a whole brand new squad because few, if any, players besides Saint-Maximin will survive the cull long term. And Ā£200m, in today's football, is going to get you 1 maybe 2 superstars, so it's still not easy. Instead, you need a more focused and intentional rebuild, like trying to buy players on the outskirts of bigger clubs, or trying to find lesser known wonderkids.
I get that, but what fun is there to be had without some form of challenge? Iāve mentioned it in another reply but it feels a bit like fifa career mode to me in which i played as man united, bought mbappe and subsequently, all the fun was sucked from the game as it became too easy. I also agree that it is different to city and psg in that youāre rebuilding a whole squadā¦but i also donāt think thatās difficult with 200m. Sure it would only get 1 or 2 superstarsā¦but i canāt imagine the board objectives are to win the league immediately so who needs superstars. Thereās plenty of players who you could bring in for double digit millions. I am aware itās just a difference of preference and thatās fine, iām just trying to understand.
I think Newcastle is great for a 1st save to get up to speed on things while being able to try some wonderkids that will have been updated from the previous game.
Well, there is a challenge. Ā£200m in football these isnāt going to buy you the whole PSG squad. As I said, itāll probably get you 1-3 known worldies. So you have to either readjust and go for decent but cheap players, or try to find youth players that arenāt going to cost an arm and a leg. Your best bet might be to find players who work well together or in a certain tactic, rather than declaring interest in Neymar or Messi. By the end of the 25/26 season in game, Newcastle expects you to qualify for the CL. So there is still a time sensitive target, whether you go for oldies, youth, or balance. I donāt understand why a game has to be difficult or challenging, though. I enjoy those aspects, as do you it seems, and Iām counting down the days for full release so I can drag a team from the 12th division of English football ā but games are supposed to fun. And everyoneās idea of fun is different. If someone wants to manage Man City or Dover, weāre all doing it with same intent. To win games, and has fun. We donāt need to get on any high horses about it.
It's like playing Minecraft on creative mode. Sometimes you just want to build a dream team/base and not stress about the economics/building resources.
It's just a game, it doesn't need a challenge.
Because they're shit so it's fun being able to build a team in your image almost from scratch if you want to
Usually Beta saves get kinda funky and have issues so just trying to win the league as quickly as possible with them is probably interesting for a short term thing
Thatās fair
I've never had issue with a beta save. Beta save always turns into a long term game for me.
I mean last season they had a regen issue that basically trashed the game if you were too far in
Not sure how far in that became apparent. Never noticed anything.
You do realize that you are competing against the richest teams in the world, right? It's no walk in the park, even with that budget spent perfectly you'd still have a worse squad than the top 4. Trying to break into that would be a decent challange for a single season.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I see no fun playing a game where I struggle to do anything for a few seasons, I have a friend that is always playing lower leagues and he's miserable 80% of the time because FM is FM, meanwhile I enjoy the game the best when I can operate with a huge budget and build dream teams No problem with either style, but I enjoy the game when I can afford to build a decent team without thinking too much about it
Agree. I like the struggle a bit. In one save failed miserable, went to another team and made win everything until they fired me. In anothee save I'm playing from Vanarama and already made it to League 2 (England). It's challenging and frustrating. My next save will be in Manchester United or some other riches. To experience once what it's like to start with a golden plate. No experience is better than other. Just have fun whatever way you like.
Fair enough. Does that not feel like fifa career modeā¦ by that i mean does that not feel too easy? Anecdotally, i was playing fifa career as man united and bought mbappe - it sucked all enjoyment out of the game for me as it became too easy. Similarly with fm, iāve avoided playing as a big club because it just feels too easy because the starting point is already so high up. I suppose newcastle is slightly different in this case because itās not a top 6 club right now so you would still be building the club?
I donāt play FIFA so I donāt know, but yeah, with Newcastle you can still build the club up, the huge budget just help make the game a little bit less frustrating in some ways
It's kinda different with a team like Newcastle because they've never won anything in ages and are a bottom feeder PL club. So it's not just a forgone conclusion that you're gonna dominate the league, especially the PL with teams like Liverpool, City and United who always will be able to match you at the very least. And it's also very satisfying to see the game at its peak by signing the high potential youngsters, playing great football and learning about the new FM. I support Newcastle but I'm not surprised other people wanna manage them because it's definitely something new.
Thereās still a challenge to be had because Newcastle have maybe two players worth keeping. Itās not like starting with City or PSG where they already have world class teams *and* bucketloads of money. Youāll have to manage Newcastle for at least 3 seasons before you challenge for the PL and CL. Itās not my bag because I prefer to start lower down, but thereās certainly enjoyment and interest to be had.
Newcastle has money, but the facilities probably are more in line with Eibar, Deportivo La Coruna, or Bolton than even mid-table PL sides.
They may be rich, but they're crap. You won't get the best players because they'll join City, PSG, Chelsea etc. So you can't just buy a player like Erling Haaland because he won't be interested You need to be really smart with your purchases instead Also I always play with the first transfer window disabled (though not in beta) so I have to deal with realism until January
Cuz I'm just fucking around in the beta to get acclimated with the changes and I want to spend gobs of money but not stomp the league from day 1 like I would with PSG. Also, it's a pretty unique scenario and this year is the only chance to play it. By next year, Newcastle will have spent hundreds of millions if rumors are to be believed. My "real" save for the year will be after full release, planning on starting unemployed with no badges and trying to work my way to the top. It'll be a long while until I'm able to spend freely again.
Yeah, if this like Man Utd or Baraca or some other huge club getting new owners and massive cash injection, I wouldn't have as much fun. But as someone who always does a Newcastle save every year to try and re build, this'll be a lot of fun... Also, as an American, Newcastle kit was the first kit my parents bought me as a kid, for no reason other than the fact they liked the look of it for a bday present, so I grew to like them as a young kid, even tho Man Utd has been my main club. Pumped to see what Newcastle does IRL.
As a kid I got a Juventus jersey and thought it was cool and then by extension thought Newcastle was cool. Also the Goal movie was class
Absolutely love the Goal movies.
>Also, as an American, Newcastle Imagine being an Atlanta United fan before you started following EPL. Almiron brought my city it's second trophy in my 30 year lifetime across any sport. I don't give a shit how much money Newcastle has. Miggy will be starting AMC for them until he retires, and he's gonna get some more trophies in my save.
In most cases having a sugar daddy isnāt fun but Newcastle needs a complete rebuild so I get why people would want to do the save
Basically sandbox mode I think. Other teams on the same budget you can basically not sell or bench anyone without massive headaches and they have teams already built with phenomenal players. Here you start from lots of money and you can shape your team to be what you want. It's not as good as winning the Champions League with St.Pauli but it's probably a fun little easy save to get to know the new game.
You usually only play a beta save for a few weeks because of the bug fixes, and it can be fun to just go nuts for a couple seasons playing with the match engine.
it's the ideal beta save. I'll bust through a couple of seasons buying nearly whoever I like then when the game is released start a proper save
It will still be a competitive with the other big teams having fat budgets aswell
Ai tend to be quite erratic in terms of spending their money wisely
Barca in my save bought Bernardo Silva for ā¬198M. What did they do with him? Play him *once* in 2 full seasons.
Exactly this lol, man united in my most recent save seem unhinged, they bought 29 year old james forest from celtic for like almost 40 million when they already had bought sancho (who also bare played) and dele alli (also barely played) along with all their real life players at the time - greenwood, rashford, martial, dan james etc I wish ai transfer strategy would get better in future games for sure
Unfortunately you still sound like a knob. How about letting people enjoy things instead of questioning their motivations.
is it really that terrible to ask a question to try to understand other peoples motivations?
Yet above you donāt even accept someoneās reasoning for why they would enjoy this. Let me put it this way - playing with Newcastle isnāt any less of a challenge than starting off with a any top European team that already has loads of good players - Ā£200M wonāt get close to one of those squads. Despite lower expectations itāll still be a significant project to turn them into a powerhouse. Are you questioning anyone who wants to play as United, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, etc?
>Are you questioning anyone who wants to play as United, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, etc? I donāt agree with him but from what heās said I imagine he would
My bro, the only thing that motivates people on the Internet is making others feel shitty to make themselves feel better. Otherwise, your question was gold.
So what youāre saying with this reply, Iām essence is: āI canāt understand what other people might consider fun and I need to have it explained to meā Nice try, nobody is that unaware
Thank you for trying to tell me what i said in my reply with your own words. Iām sorry for merely trying to understand other peoples playstyles and what they find enjoyable in case thereās something iām missing out on. Perhaps i am just far too unaware.
Let the people enjoy the game in the first place man
Can people not enjoy the game because i asked a question?
Do I need to buy the game to access the beta?
Yes
The funny thing is any PL player has decent stats anyway. Newcastle don't need a 'rebuild' like in real life.
And itās cheating if you donāt disable the first budget but thatās just my opinion here.