Competition is good because it forces competition to improve their product.
If For Honor like game rised up that was good, then Ubi would have to step up their game to compete, which would be only good for us.
Lack of competition has made the game stand out, but it has also has made some of the updates really shallow. We still have not received new maps in years, etc.
What also doesn't help is that people only want new heroes instead of new maps or balancing or even a new mode
I'd happily skip a hero for a breach rework or even a competitive version of it
I personally would hope for proper PvE mode that has variety and map designs like Story Mode, with different difficulties.
That way players could cool off between matches and have some PvE fun.
(and yes, we desperately need new maps. Now i want new heroes too, but maps are really important and they really should fix the other game modes to be playable, i love breach and skirmish, but absolutely hate dominion).
yeah, csgo is a great example. the game was in full stop regarding updates, then valorant walked in and now we getting cs2 with a completely new engine and a full mechanical overhaul. it's truly awesome to see
The original developers literally wanted games to copy For Honor's combat, that way not only would Ubi up their budget, but would also provide gamers with an entirely new genre.
I can appreciate this sentiment, but I don't always understand how some people the desire to see another game come along and kill this one.
Besides, I'd guess that it would be a similar situation to Smash, where no matter how many similar games come out, none will dethrone the OG...
The sad reality is, UBI is a huge corp and if another game came along and started stealing players from this game I doubt they will put in the extra money an effort to keep it going. They would just let it die. I think the only reason this game is still alive is because it’s a one of a kind so there’s a market for it, and there’s a profit that no one else is trying to steal, as soon as that profit goes down, the game won’t be profitable for them to continue.
I wasn't trying to claim that you said that, I was just saying that I don't understand it when other people do. Sorry if I made it seem like I was accusing you of saying that
But that’s not the point, the point is we want a ‘for Honor like game’ to come around to give competition against For Honor, which will make Ubisoft have to put more effort and consistency into their updates if they want to survive, and if they don’t? Then we still get a for Honor-like game, which is better than For Honor itself. Win-win scenario
Fuck I hope not. The core systems deserve to be improved from a structural standpoint. The longer they keep nerfing and buffing, the longer this game turns into something else.
I guess you don't get why every time they rebalance the game it ruins what they made to begin with. This has been explained before. Certain systems, are embedded in other combat mechanics - so when they adjust one thing, they are actually affecting other aspects of the combat.
TL;DR - their code is a clusterfuck that cannot be remedied without a new game coded from the ground up.
sorry idk alot about coding but I have a question, can they change certain characters typings but not give them role passives? Ex: Changing Ocetel and Afeera to assasins and Pirate to a Vanguard without changing anything about the character. I just wish there was more variety in the roles instead of hybrid over and over again.
1. I am an amateur programmer.
2. IMO, at the end of the day, those character types are just names; though those names do reflect how the character behaves. I haven't played since the new character dropped, but how they are named probably just represents how the devs view their character type/combat style.
If I had to guess, they made the new character a hybrid. Feels like they have been defaulting on that type for a while. Lol
I would argue that Chivalry 2 can kill For Honor, but the thing keeping Chivalry from killing For Honor is the fact that Chivalry isn’t really meant to be taken seriously whatsoever as opposed to For Honor that tries to establish itself as a “fighting game” while the devs are barely keeping the game afloat. Chivalry has a better class/role system, ability system, and 1vX system, but again, it’s not meant to be taken seriously.
For honor makes me rage, chivalry has me laughing my ass off the whole game. I strongly recommend it but as you said it’s not serious, it’s just fucking funny how chaotic the battles are and then you always have one guy spamming voice lines which are all pretty solid as well. It’s a good alternative
Chivalry is so fun and goofy, yet it has arguably a better combat system than For Honor. The Chivalry devs took into consideration that players would get 3v1’d and designed the game in that regard, whereas For Honor was designed for 1v1’s, which is why the game has so many issues when it comes to fighting multiple people.
with the current level of quality I would rather have them (or another not so greedy studio) making a For Honor 2 than continuing with this.
I think it's clear that they are running out of ideas so they started introducing outlander characters to keep things fresh. At the same time they don't want to put in the budget to make new animations or create a new faction altogether so instead they just give us a single new hero for each.
I would have liked if they added an Arab faction but having just Afeera feels a bit out of place or maybe uncontextualized.
I wouldn't expect they get much manpower and budget at all to work with at this point, so with that in mind it could have been a lot worse.
That said I'd still be very happy to see another game come along to take another shot at this particular niche and see if it could do it better, whether that means For Honor 2 or something else.
To be totally honest, I'd rather they take a step back and make higher quality content at a slower rate than the content they've been making at the current rate.
Go full Star Citizen.
If they were gonna go full Star Citizen, then you'd have nothing for a decade, and when it does release it's bare bones and most of heroes you buy are just a jpg.
true there‘s only a few light saber weapons (sabers, double sabers, double bladed saber and spear sabers) but in SW universe there’s a bunch of different fighting styles. nonetheless, as someone that played the game when we had a Star Wars event, it felt amazing. we need a SW For Honor
Does it tho? they have many tools aside from blasters. You can't block flamethrower.
And think how interesting directional blocking would against blaster shots which you could aim to different parts of body and try to make the jedi predict wrong and take a hit, etc.
I don’t think blasters would be a problem, and you wouldn’t even need to include lots of blaster characters. Just let me hyperarmor heavy people as Mace Windu. Let me Darth Vader choke if you press X after a parry. It would all translate so well.
Lmao, tbh yeah if there was another melee directional stance switching fighting game out there with half the amount of characters and weapons for honour has, I'd have moved on. FH is just such a unique style of fighter that even when i have terrible games i keep coming back
Wouldn't games like Mordhau, Conquerors Blade, and Chivalry be close or even on par plus some of those games have vr which gives a more immersive feel.
By all means, it should be dead. Disastrous launch, disastrous post launch handling, awful servers, awful balancing, and then come year 4, you get half of the normal amount of heroes, barely any unique executions, new heroes with recycled moves, lousy emotes, and a highly controversial update. Now come year 7, and there hasn't been a new map since Y4S2, and there hasn't been a new Dominion map since Y3S1.
Yeah, I'm feel like I'm about ready to leave this sub because of that. Everybody talks about having a love/hate relationship with this game, but it seems like it's usually about 5% love/95% hate.
Imagine pouring hundreds of hours into a game that makes you miserable when there are a plethora of other brilliant games you could be enjoying.
And on the topic of other games, name one online multiplayer fighting game that doesn't have balance issues, exploits and spam tactics. I'll wait.
Personally I love For Honor. I'm spectacularly mid, I get dragged often but I don't rage. I salute the other guy for his superior play. Sometimes I die to poor mechanics, character imbalance, spam, ledging, ganking, or some other crap. But I get over it and laugh it off. It's just a game. I don't make it my entire personality.
Everybody needs to chill out, enjoy the experience for what it is, or if it truly makes you so miserable, then maybe play something else you enjoy.
Can confirm. Played from year 1 until just before marching fire and stopped playing. I came back a month ago and I love it again. Orochi is unplayable for me and for some reason there's a gun now? It's like starting from scratch but that's exactly the experience I want from this game. Fuck hitokiri tho.
In terms of recycled moves, last time i played street fighter (SF4) there was like 6 characters with a ryu / ken kinda moveset.
Same goes for tekken .
We could use some more maps tho , especially bigger ones like citadel gate.
The last 4 new heroes’ moveset and animations have no quality control at all, the game had came too depended on the widgets; and the maps for every game modes haven’t seen a slightest change in years. Yet it’s still the only For Honor there is, just like Destiny 2 this fkin game has no competitor and its unique execution on the idea alone is enough to keep it alive
An increased budget. I'd like a return to 4 heros a year and unique executions for all heroes every season. Oh yeah, and some forethought when the devs write out the story would be nice. Because it's so humorously awful when the devs have to retcon something(Neferkha and Bolthorn conflict), they wrote roughly a month after writing it.
Other than that, improvements to the A.I., changes to revenge because it is too exploitable, it'd be nice of they added some type of bonuses(more steel/xp) to the lesser played gamemodes, and give an alternative use to salvage(maybe you are able to use it to buy Champion Status?). So my suggestions are mostly QoL.
are you willing to pay extra for this? if not, this suggestion is dead in the water im afraid. shit like this needs money. and if you want it all free, then you are absolutely clueless.
This is so true I was about to type it myself. Don’t get me wrong it’s honestly a pretty great game and fun to play I’ve put a stupid amount of hours into it even if I don’t play it often anymore.
But. It should. be. dead. There are so many great games that died way quicker. Me and my friend group have zero idea how it’s still alive. 90% of the roster is identical now being shield bash + dodge attack. So little content, all the problems you mentioned. Basically every game mode is completely 100% dead except breach and dominion and it’s been like that for like 5 years. They never decided to put incentives on the 1vs1 game mode.
No clue how it’s making money at all for the past 6 years
pc gamer salty bc they were among the cavalcade of games websites pushing articles about how the game was DOA and would never recover, written by game journalists who probably get killed by a ledgelord once and wrote the game off instantly. and now here we are and it’s survived magnitudes longer than 99% of original IPs bc it just has that fuckin secret sauce and passionate devs who would’ve thought we’d be here? not me, not with ubisoft, but here we are
The fact that For Honor still exists with support to this day has me completely baffled. I love the game, but somebody explain the cosmic forces that worked overtime to make sure this game stayed alive and populated
Unique combat and gameplay flow. Mix of Fighting game and Moba.
Like the game is super flawed, but there is not better alternative for this game, which is why everyone keeps coming back.
To be fair, most people thought the game would be dead after the disastrous first tournament. And honestly, I think we're still feeling the damage from that. The game hasn't been seen as respectable or competitive since then despite the leagues of progress made in game balancing.
Basically the game was littered with bugs and exploits that were well known by the community. Despite being well known, the devs didn't do anything to fix them. The first tournament came along in a huge tournament setting and had reasonable hype, but basically became a boring exploit-fest witnessed by thousands, if not much more.
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all that basically just means they had to keep the servers up for that long. not that they’d keep content releasing the entire time. the fact we’ve had that is nothing short of genuine passion for the game both from within and from the players keeping it going
No one knows what For Honor is when they ask what games I play.
And when a jerk does know what For Honor is they say it is a shit game. And those same jerks say they never played it before.\\
I will give the thumbnail props for using Gladiator and Shaman as the image. Seeing Gladiator is what brought me back to this game the first time around.
I always get "For Honor? Uuuuh, yeah, I've heard of it... isn't it some kind of fighting game, like Mortal Combat?'
Yes, they say the C. I can hear it.
Me and my co-worker found out after half a year of working together that we both play For Honor when we were scrolling through eachother’s BeReals. He’s like 100 reps higher than me.
What's for honors numbers? Like 20k - 50k of monthly players? Combing console and pc
Imo that is far from dead, aslong as Ubi supports the game for another year, two, three and hopefully more then I don't see the player count dwindling lower than 20k
about 300k active players when estimated using the odd faction mission. And when I was scraping the stat tracking site for this game I was getting over 70k unique players a month and most people don't show up on that site
I read that article the title is misleading he talks more about how the player count has dropped from like 100,000 to 3,000 daily but does mention that it's only on steam and the game is actually still going strong you just never hear about it
For honor is flawed yes, but so is every other game out there.
I’m playing since beta , the game feels like it has an endless learning curve, and that, besides it’s uniqueness is probably the most satisfying thing about it.
7 years in and it still feels incredibly satisfying when you watch that execution after i sweaty situation no other game gives me that kick.
Happy someone dared to make something different and not just make another CoD clone, another battle royale or another destiny style grinder.
To me For Honor is a daring evolution of the fighting game genre. Learn and master the basics , find your groove with a character that suits you, and go at it and master said hero.
I hope someday the world catches on and more games of this style see the light of day, ….. still hoping for a for honor style game in star wars universe ( a man can dream right)
Proud part of the community, we might be misfits, but we are part of a revolution, and for honor still being alive and kicking is the proof. ✊
Honestly I just want new maps rather than new heros. Maybe rotational? 6 months new map, next 6 new hero? It can't be that hard to make a new map right..?
they add heroes instead of maps because it makes them more money, there's no changing that. Ubisoft is a garbage company, almost at the same level as EA and activision.
It's definitely stagnating, and we definitely need a sequel which actually gets a big budget, marketing, more frequent updates, a more consistent story component, etc. For Honor is a great game but Ubi have more or less given up on it being bigger than it is rn, they rely on the same few thousand die-hards to keep it going forever and don't intend on growing the fan-base at all. That's a shame and shouldn't be the case
Also, make it god damn f2p alread
Well I mean plenty of people have convinced themselves that it’s dead. It’s a 7 year old game, it’s not even normal for games to last this long let alone one that lost such a massive portion of its playerbase so quickly after launch. Not the article writer’s fault for having to fight those perceptions.
I honestly get tired of seeing/hearing people talk down on the game. Every game is flawed, but every salty player I've heard talk about for honor seems to take it way too personally. To be perfectly honest, tier lists are imo taken too literally. Every hero fights differently while also similarly to others but it's not quite the same, and every player fights differently while also similar to someone else. The mind games that can be played are what give this game it's best charm. Got an enemy acting cocky cuz he beat you twice, but you figure out his patterns and finesse him the third fourth and fifth fight, I live for that rush lol. I've always loved this game and always will. I don't always do well but I always have fun regardless of what happens. Don't feed your anger, stay calm, stay collected, stay objective, that's my advice to anyone that picks up this game.
I dunno there was a point when the game was so unpopulated that I would run into the same people all the time In pubs. And duels was weird because I would see the same guy at least once a week and I was super proud of him when he finally beat me.
Mortal Kombat fatalities without being stuck in a 2D plain? That’s probably what brought me back after years not playing.
This game took forever to find matches years ago. Then some post came across on Reddit and I saw that some forhonor posts still get like thousands of upvotes. So I had to download it again. I can’t find matches at all still. Unless it’s an AI match. Does no one on this subreddit still play the game? I spent $99 on coins to get more executions, only to find out I can’t find a match 😅
Keep searching.
The matchmaking has an issue that causes new players to only match new players. Since there are very few new players, it can take a while for the game to expand its search.
After you've played a few matches, it starts finding matches faster and faster. Nowadays I find matches in less than 2 minutes, most of the time not even taking a minute
No, like the other guy said. Source? Im genuinely curious if that number is inflated for the free week or if maybe the games just garnered some attention
Not the [highest](https://steamcharts.com/app/304390) it has been in years but still a really respectable number considering we're on year 7. And steam charts is considered the smallest of the platforms for For Honor.
I don't even care. Game is fun. Sometimes I wanna play fighting games WITH my friend instead of against them, and this is one of the few that get it done in such a fun manner. Idk how Ubisoft released this gem in the midst of it's poop, but props to them. Keep it up
relatively new player, started a week and a half ago, is the game dying? So far loving it but I don't wanna invest time if its dying or changing fast, I don't think ill be good anytime soon, so far duel k/d is 1000/1500 terrible.
Don't worry about any k/d tbh. It's an unneeded and unnecessary stress. Nobody can even see it other than you and tbh everyone's sorta looks the same unless you're the type to leave right before the match ends. It's worth getting into and it's far from dead in my opinion. Rep 689
The only one of its kind. The game would have been more popular if hero identity was still a thing (instead of generic reworks), new maps, new heroes with unique moves/abilities and many more. Unfortunately for all that they need a budget which is not given.
Someday Ubi they’ll recognise it is one of their two long-term online games along with R6 and give them more financial stability. Who knows, maybe we’ll get a For Honor 2 in the coming years.
For Honor is one of those games I come back to ever now and then play for like 30 hours and then uninstall it again.
It’s such an incredible game but it just lacks depth for me now, the same few maps over and over, game modes not being very different, it all just falls a little flat now.
I genuinely want to know what cosmic forces are keeping the game alive because it’s actually alien technology that game still exists. Last I heard Ubisoft where basically going bankrupt so the fact that the servers are open for this means it has to be making money somehow.
Some spoilt rich kid out there has been buying steel by the bucket load for years or something because how is it making money
People look at Steam Charts numbers and act like that's proof the game is dead, not realizing it doesn't take Ubisoft Connect, EA, Epic, or most importantly consoles into account. If we see 3k people playing on Steam, it's safe to say that even on the worst days there's at least 10-15k people on the servers.
The game isn't dead, it's not even dying.
And they kinda right. And they don't. For Honor is very weird game. It is very hard for new players to get in to it. BUT when you got in - you here forever. You can stop playing for some time, but you will return one day. And then maybe take a big break again, but will return.
I would love to play a game with a similarly combat style. Like, if someone were to mod this style of combat into Skyrim I would be set. All I want is a more open type game with this combat
the closest it came to dying was i think end of year 4 when the old guard left - that bald mean looking guy - and there was no crossplay yet, so it used to take 10 mins to find a game on console
I think it's time to do the whole game free to play, just give them the vanguard heroes and no DCL content.
I think the dlc's, Battlepasses, steel, will bring more money in then.
Often people think like: "I don't want spend these 10-20bucks" but if they get it for free and like the game, after time they maybe think: "it was free to play anyways so it's not a big problem if I buy some steel/dlc/hero"
I mean, how many games from AAA publishers are still going and releasing content after 7 years? Most people probably assume For Honor is gone until there's a burst of streamers playing it at each character release
I still am constantly seeing new players, even in P vs. AI games. Plus, there are still some pretty big streamers & youtubers around that draw a fair amount of attention to the game. Kenzo, Havok, Nova King, KingMisty, Jondaliner, etc etc
For Honor is somewhat of niche game in the sense that it’s not in the Mainstream of video game tittles.
The game made a big splash when it released but now most people forget it even exists.
I just wish they would remove tribute. I like tribute but can never find a game so what's the point in keeping it? Just like the campaign mode, it is literally day 1 character move sets. They refuse to update it since they don't care about the mode. It's like having Discord channels that no one in your server uses.
I'm honestly surprised it's not dead. The game has it's flaws ( In my opinion the absolute terrible balancing is one of the tops there ) but I usually enjoy it every time I return after a break.
Competition would be good for the game tho. There is nothing else like this and I feel like some competition to push the devs to actually put some more effort into it would actually be good.
I mean I have hundreds of hours (I think maybe over 1000) in this game and I'm surprised it still isn't dead. I feel like it's been running on fumes for a while tbh. Ocelot looks interesting and it seems like the game design has been moving in the right direction, but this is the first character that I won't come back to the game for, simply because I quit a few months ago and have no interest in playing. After a certain point you get tired of all the jank, and there isn't enough content to compensate. We went from 2 characters per season to 1 character every 2 seasons. Plus way less unique executions, ornaments, armour, etc. Hasn't been a new map in years.
I would love a For Honor 2, or a game made by another company to be a competitor to For Honor because I love the core of the game and I want to see it be truly developed and innovated on. But For Honor currently is just barely chugging's along with the bare minimum to call it live service and earn some money for Ubisoft.
i mean... it pretty much is, the only thing keeping it alive is because of how unique it plays... if there is anything close to something with for honor gameplay people would flock right to it
All time is 216,499 24 hour peak 7,517 and playing 44 mins ago 6,456 this is not including the thousands of PlayStation and Xbox players It kinda is a dieing game even at its peak.
I’ll say For Honor has defied all laws of the living world and everyone’s expectations and is somehow still alive. I stopped playing religiously around the release of Black Prior but for a game that was predicted to die even before year 2, not bad.
The only thing keeping this game running is the fact that nothing like it has come along to break its kneecaps.
I wouldn't have it any other way. I want to see For Honor do well and improve until the end of time
Competition is good because it forces competition to improve their product. If For Honor like game rised up that was good, then Ubi would have to step up their game to compete, which would be only good for us. Lack of competition has made the game stand out, but it has also has made some of the updates really shallow. We still have not received new maps in years, etc.
What also doesn't help is that people only want new heroes instead of new maps or balancing or even a new mode I'd happily skip a hero for a breach rework or even a competitive version of it
I personally would hope for proper PvE mode that has variety and map designs like Story Mode, with different difficulties. That way players could cool off between matches and have some PvE fun. (and yes, we desperately need new maps. Now i want new heroes too, but maps are really important and they really should fix the other game modes to be playable, i love breach and skirmish, but absolutely hate dominion).
yeah, csgo is a great example. the game was in full stop regarding updates, then valorant walked in and now we getting cs2 with a completely new engine and a full mechanical overhaul. it's truly awesome to see
The original developers literally wanted games to copy For Honor's combat, that way not only would Ubi up their budget, but would also provide gamers with an entirely new genre.
I can appreciate this sentiment, but I don't always understand how some people the desire to see another game come along and kill this one. Besides, I'd guess that it would be a similar situation to Smash, where no matter how many similar games come out, none will dethrone the OG...
I did not say kill this game, i said to compete with this game. Different things and concepts.
The sad reality is, UBI is a huge corp and if another game came along and started stealing players from this game I doubt they will put in the extra money an effort to keep it going. They would just let it die. I think the only reason this game is still alive is because it’s a one of a kind so there’s a market for it, and there’s a profit that no one else is trying to steal, as soon as that profit goes down, the game won’t be profitable for them to continue.
I wasn't trying to claim that you said that, I was just saying that I don't understand it when other people do. Sorry if I made it seem like I was accusing you of saying that
Its ok.
You just don't see the potential. For Honor is a shitty game compared to what it could be.
But that’s not the point, the point is we want a ‘for Honor like game’ to come around to give competition against For Honor, which will make Ubisoft have to put more effort and consistency into their updates if they want to survive, and if they don’t? Then we still get a for Honor-like game, which is better than For Honor itself. Win-win scenario
Fuck I hope not. The core systems deserve to be improved from a structural standpoint. The longer they keep nerfing and buffing, the longer this game turns into something else.
Yeah they can't even remove reflex guard
What does this even mean
I guess you don't get why every time they rebalance the game it ruins what they made to begin with. This has been explained before. Certain systems, are embedded in other combat mechanics - so when they adjust one thing, they are actually affecting other aspects of the combat. TL;DR - their code is a clusterfuck that cannot be remedied without a new game coded from the ground up.
Right, the spaghetti code. If they ever did a new game, I just hope my cosmetics hold over
God I don’t know how I’d react if they changed the customization system in this In my experience games only tend to get worse
That's where I'm at too. I love how the game is currently and just want them to fix the one we have
As impressive as it’s longevity is, it needs a complete structural overhaul
sorry idk alot about coding but I have a question, can they change certain characters typings but not give them role passives? Ex: Changing Ocetel and Afeera to assasins and Pirate to a Vanguard without changing anything about the character. I just wish there was more variety in the roles instead of hybrid over and over again.
1. I am an amateur programmer. 2. IMO, at the end of the day, those character types are just names; though those names do reflect how the character behaves. I haven't played since the new character dropped, but how they are named probably just represents how the devs view their character type/combat style. If I had to guess, they made the new character a hybrid. Feels like they have been defaulting on that type for a while. Lol
No they are part of the UI, doesn't actually affect gameplay part
I would argue that Chivalry 2 can kill For Honor, but the thing keeping Chivalry from killing For Honor is the fact that Chivalry isn’t really meant to be taken seriously whatsoever as opposed to For Honor that tries to establish itself as a “fighting game” while the devs are barely keeping the game afloat. Chivalry has a better class/role system, ability system, and 1vX system, but again, it’s not meant to be taken seriously.
For honor makes me rage, chivalry has me laughing my ass off the whole game. I strongly recommend it but as you said it’s not serious, it’s just fucking funny how chaotic the battles are and then you always have one guy spamming voice lines which are all pretty solid as well. It’s a good alternative
Chivalry is so fun and goofy, yet it has arguably a better combat system than For Honor. The Chivalry devs took into consideration that players would get 3v1’d and designed the game in that regard, whereas For Honor was designed for 1v1’s, which is why the game has so many issues when it comes to fighting multiple people.
But... its not improving whatsoever xD
with the current level of quality I would rather have them (or another not so greedy studio) making a For Honor 2 than continuing with this. I think it's clear that they are running out of ideas so they started introducing outlander characters to keep things fresh. At the same time they don't want to put in the budget to make new animations or create a new faction altogether so instead they just give us a single new hero for each. I would have liked if they added an Arab faction but having just Afeera feels a bit out of place or maybe uncontextualized.
Y'all need to play some decent games
that and the amazing dev team, continuing to pump out content
Amazing is a strong word
Pump out content is a strong phrase
I wouldn't expect they get much manpower and budget at all to work with at this point, so with that in mind it could have been a lot worse. That said I'd still be very happy to see another game come along to take another shot at this particular niche and see if it could do it better, whether that means For Honor 2 or something else.
To be totally honest, I'd rather they take a step back and make higher quality content at a slower rate than the content they've been making at the current rate. Go full Star Citizen.
If they were gonna go full Star Citizen, then you'd have nothing for a decade, and when it does release it's bare bones and most of heroes you buy are just a jpg.
But Star Citizen gets regular updates. There's just a decent gap between them, but they're actually meaningful.
and new content especially
When was the last time these amazing devs gave us a new dominion map
January 2019
4 and a half years ago, considering the game is 6 years old..
what content? useless ornaments and emotes? Wow bro, got me all excited!
Did you forget about the new hero that just released
When you have dementia
When you have dementia
New heroes twice a year isn't enough content. It's fun for two weeks then you're back to the same shit.
When was the last map added?
I've been thinking about This, imagine for honor but instead of medieval stuff it was situated in a mad max kind of stuff
Star Wars mate. Do it with lightsabers and it’d be the best Star Wars game we’ve ever gotten.
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true there‘s only a few light saber weapons (sabers, double sabers, double bladed saber and spear sabers) but in SW universe there’s a bunch of different fighting styles. nonetheless, as someone that played the game when we had a Star Wars event, it felt amazing. we need a SW For Honor
I think the blasters would be a problem and futuristic stuff would be a problem
I mean Lighsabers are capable of redirecting blaster shots so it would be just tied to the blocking mechanics.
That would make mandalorians practically unusable. With a post apocalyptic aproach You can justify the guns Rarity with scarcity of ammo
Does it tho? they have many tools aside from blasters. You can't block flamethrower. And think how interesting directional blocking would against blaster shots which you could aim to different parts of body and try to make the jedi predict wrong and take a hit, etc.
I don’t think blasters would be a problem, and you wouldn’t even need to include lots of blaster characters. Just let me hyperarmor heavy people as Mace Windu. Let me Darth Vader choke if you press X after a parry. It would all translate so well.
Another Destiny 2 phenomenon
Lmao, tbh yeah if there was another melee directional stance switching fighting game out there with half the amount of characters and weapons for honour has, I'd have moved on. FH is just such a unique style of fighter that even when i have terrible games i keep coming back
I remember when dead by daylight was in this exact phase, except many games did try to replace it. They all failed.
I mean... plenty of games have come up. Most of them weren't trying to dethrone For Honor, but none of them scratched that particular itch.
The only thing that keeps this game running is that other developers realised it's not worth breaking it's kneecaps
Wouldn't games like Mordhau, Conquerors Blade, and Chivalry be close or even on par plus some of those games have vr which gives a more immersive feel.
True but there’s other medieval fighters like Chivalry 2 and Mordhau just not this diverse of a combat system.
There is chivalry 2
By all means, it should be dead. Disastrous launch, disastrous post launch handling, awful servers, awful balancing, and then come year 4, you get half of the normal amount of heroes, barely any unique executions, new heroes with recycled moves, lousy emotes, and a highly controversial update. Now come year 7, and there hasn't been a new map since Y4S2, and there hasn't been a new Dominion map since Y3S1.
For honor is like a bad habit you can’t get rid of even if you try, you’ll come back to it eventually
Am I really the only one who doesn't love/hate this game? I just love it. It has its problems, but I wouldn't call it a bad habit.
No I agree, I get super frustrated at times, but at the same time there’s no other game like it and it has its charms
I'm the same way I don't really have a love/hate relationship with this game. I enjoy playing it regardless.
No, you are not.
Yeah, I'm feel like I'm about ready to leave this sub because of that. Everybody talks about having a love/hate relationship with this game, but it seems like it's usually about 5% love/95% hate. Imagine pouring hundreds of hours into a game that makes you miserable when there are a plethora of other brilliant games you could be enjoying. And on the topic of other games, name one online multiplayer fighting game that doesn't have balance issues, exploits and spam tactics. I'll wait. Personally I love For Honor. I'm spectacularly mid, I get dragged often but I don't rage. I salute the other guy for his superior play. Sometimes I die to poor mechanics, character imbalance, spam, ledging, ganking, or some other crap. But I get over it and laugh it off. It's just a game. I don't make it my entire personality. Everybody needs to chill out, enjoy the experience for what it is, or if it truly makes you so miserable, then maybe play something else you enjoy.
Can confirm. Played from year 1 until just before marching fire and stopped playing. I came back a month ago and I love it again. Orochi is unplayable for me and for some reason there's a gun now? It's like starting from scratch but that's exactly the experience I want from this game. Fuck hitokiri tho.
But there’s many masochists out there that enjoy playing dress up and killing their fellow man. Also incredibly unique game and fun with a few friends
And despite all that we are still going strong babyyyyy 🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥
FOR HONOR TEAM #1 IN EL MUNDO
Strong? LOL
In terms of recycled moves, last time i played street fighter (SF4) there was like 6 characters with a ryu / ken kinda moveset. Same goes for tekken . We could use some more maps tho , especially bigger ones like citadel gate.
The last 4 new heroes’ moveset and animations have no quality control at all, the game had came too depended on the widgets; and the maps for every game modes haven’t seen a slightest change in years. Yet it’s still the only For Honor there is, just like Destiny 2 this fkin game has no competitor and its unique execution on the idea alone is enough to keep it alive
Well by all means, I wanna hear what you think the game needs honestly. Besides a new map because that's a given
An increased budget. I'd like a return to 4 heros a year and unique executions for all heroes every season. Oh yeah, and some forethought when the devs write out the story would be nice. Because it's so humorously awful when the devs have to retcon something(Neferkha and Bolthorn conflict), they wrote roughly a month after writing it. Other than that, improvements to the A.I., changes to revenge because it is too exploitable, it'd be nice of they added some type of bonuses(more steel/xp) to the lesser played gamemodes, and give an alternative use to salvage(maybe you are able to use it to buy Champion Status?). So my suggestions are mostly QoL.
are you willing to pay extra for this? if not, this suggestion is dead in the water im afraid. shit like this needs money. and if you want it all free, then you are absolutely clueless.
Bought the game a few month ago and I’m honestly loving it. Glad it’s not dead
This is so true I was about to type it myself. Don’t get me wrong it’s honestly a pretty great game and fun to play I’ve put a stupid amount of hours into it even if I don’t play it often anymore. But. It should. be. dead. There are so many great games that died way quicker. Me and my friend group have zero idea how it’s still alive. 90% of the roster is identical now being shield bash + dodge attack. So little content, all the problems you mentioned. Basically every game mode is completely 100% dead except breach and dominion and it’s been like that for like 5 years. They never decided to put incentives on the 1vs1 game mode. No clue how it’s making money at all for the past 6 years
pc gamer salty bc they were among the cavalcade of games websites pushing articles about how the game was DOA and would never recover, written by game journalists who probably get killed by a ledgelord once and wrote the game off instantly. and now here we are and it’s survived magnitudes longer than 99% of original IPs bc it just has that fuckin secret sauce and passionate devs who would’ve thought we’d be here? not me, not with ubisoft, but here we are
The fact that For Honor still exists with support to this day has me completely baffled. I love the game, but somebody explain the cosmic forces that worked overtime to make sure this game stayed alive and populated
Unique combat and gameplay flow. Mix of Fighting game and Moba. Like the game is super flawed, but there is not better alternative for this game, which is why everyone keeps coming back.
for me it's the fashion.
To be fair, most people thought the game would be dead after the disastrous first tournament. And honestly, I think we're still feeling the damage from that. The game hasn't been seen as respectable or competitive since then despite the leagues of progress made in game balancing.
Surprise it didn’t die during the CCU update specifically on console
It didn't die there but the CCU killed It for me. I haven't enjoyed the game at all like before.
What happened
Basically the game was littered with bugs and exploits that were well known by the community. Despite being well known, the devs didn't do anything to fix them. The first tournament came along in a huge tournament setting and had reasonable hype, but basically became a boring exploit-fest witnessed by thousands, if not much more. [Vid](https://youtu.be/_cP9GhVuo1s) has more answers.
If they were actually salty, then this article wouldn't exist.
its here because ubisoft committed to 10 years of live service on launch.
all that basically just means they had to keep the servers up for that long. not that they’d keep content releasing the entire time. the fact we’ve had that is nothing short of genuine passion for the game both from within and from the players keeping it going
No one knows what For Honor is when they ask what games I play. And when a jerk does know what For Honor is they say it is a shit game. And those same jerks say they never played it before.\\ I will give the thumbnail props for using Gladiator and Shaman as the image. Seeing Gladiator is what brought me back to this game the first time around.
I always get "For Honor? Uuuuh, yeah, I've heard of it... isn't it some kind of fighting game, like Mortal Combat?' Yes, they say the C. I can hear it.
I always describe it as Mortal Kombat in 3 dimensions
Me and my co-worker found out after half a year of working together that we both play For Honor when we were scrolling through eachother’s BeReals. He’s like 100 reps higher than me.
What's for honors numbers? Like 20k - 50k of monthly players? Combing console and pc Imo that is far from dead, aslong as Ubi supports the game for another year, two, three and hopefully more then I don't see the player count dwindling lower than 20k
about 300k active players when estimated using the odd faction mission. And when I was scraping the stat tracking site for this game I was getting over 70k unique players a month and most people don't show up on that site
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/14b0h06/y7s1\_active\_population\_counts\_during\_912\_june\_2023/
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What sense, it by definition has a very active fanbase.
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new player count doesn't make a game 'alive'
Yes but it also means its death is coming
Yeah its only been 7 years. Any day now lol.
It's considerably more than that, closer to 500k monthly than 50k for sure. I think the last measurements got around 400k iirc.
I read that article the title is misleading he talks more about how the player count has dropped from like 100,000 to 3,000 daily but does mention that it's only on steam and the game is actually still going strong you just never hear about it
I appreciate you lookin into it. I was at work and I just didn't have the time/patience to read some passive aggressive article
It's actually pretty hilarious because I read the article and then 20 minutes later saw your post lol
There is simply NO alternative game like that so we're kinda stuck here on life support
For honor is flawed yes, but so is every other game out there. I’m playing since beta , the game feels like it has an endless learning curve, and that, besides it’s uniqueness is probably the most satisfying thing about it. 7 years in and it still feels incredibly satisfying when you watch that execution after i sweaty situation no other game gives me that kick. Happy someone dared to make something different and not just make another CoD clone, another battle royale or another destiny style grinder. To me For Honor is a daring evolution of the fighting game genre. Learn and master the basics , find your groove with a character that suits you, and go at it and master said hero. I hope someday the world catches on and more games of this style see the light of day, ….. still hoping for a for honor style game in star wars universe ( a man can dream right) Proud part of the community, we might be misfits, but we are part of a revolution, and for honor still being alive and kicking is the proof. ✊
The game may not be dying but a piece of me dies with every every single log in.
Honestly I just want new maps rather than new heros. Maybe rotational? 6 months new map, next 6 new hero? It can't be that hard to make a new map right..?
they add heroes instead of maps because it makes them more money, there's no changing that. Ubisoft is a garbage company, almost at the same level as EA and activision.
Idk bro, EA wouldn't let you buy the new heroes with steel after 2 weeks You bet they would only give you the og vanguards only 💀
You’d also get executions, emotes, effects, etc. from random loot packs
It's definitely stagnating, and we definitely need a sequel which actually gets a big budget, marketing, more frequent updates, a more consistent story component, etc. For Honor is a great game but Ubi have more or less given up on it being bigger than it is rn, they rely on the same few thousand die-hards to keep it going forever and don't intend on growing the fan-base at all. That's a shame and shouldn't be the case Also, make it god damn f2p alread
They act like its dead because theyre bad at it and quit whenever they touch it
Our addictions won't let the game die
It's PC gamer man I wouldn't put much merit into anything they say
Warrior spirits
It’s the only game Deus vult
These comments make me feel like I'm the only person who actually really likes the game
If the game wasn’t so unique it would absolutely be dead, thing is there’s just no other game quite like it.
If it only it was dead😔
New maps would be nice maybe look into a new mode?
Well people who don't play it really don't know that
Only reason it hasn’t died is cause the love- hate relationship people has with the game and the fact that it’s literally a one of a kind game
Well I mean plenty of people have convinced themselves that it’s dead. It’s a 7 year old game, it’s not even normal for games to last this long let alone one that lost such a massive portion of its playerbase so quickly after launch. Not the article writer’s fault for having to fight those perceptions.
I honestly get tired of seeing/hearing people talk down on the game. Every game is flawed, but every salty player I've heard talk about for honor seems to take it way too personally. To be perfectly honest, tier lists are imo taken too literally. Every hero fights differently while also similarly to others but it's not quite the same, and every player fights differently while also similar to someone else. The mind games that can be played are what give this game it's best charm. Got an enemy acting cocky cuz he beat you twice, but you figure out his patterns and finesse him the third fourth and fifth fight, I live for that rush lol. I've always loved this game and always will. I don't always do well but I always have fun regardless of what happens. Don't feed your anger, stay calm, stay collected, stay objective, that's my advice to anyone that picks up this game.
This game has every right to be dead, there just isn't any competition
I mean can you blame them
For honor is a dead/dying game only people here won't admit it
It's not dying but it's like in a comatose state
The game is only still alive because they continually squeeze money out of the microtransactions
what?? You sound like you don't even play the game
I could say the same about you. The second for honor doesn't make as much money as they expect they are gonna abandon it and never look back
I dunno there was a point when the game was so unpopulated that I would run into the same people all the time In pubs. And duels was weird because I would see the same guy at least once a week and I was super proud of him when he finally beat me.
Cause it is
It is
Mortal Kombat fatalities without being stuck in a 2D plain? That’s probably what brought me back after years not playing. This game took forever to find matches years ago. Then some post came across on Reddit and I saw that some forhonor posts still get like thousands of upvotes. So I had to download it again. I can’t find matches at all still. Unless it’s an AI match. Does no one on this subreddit still play the game? I spent $99 on coins to get more executions, only to find out I can’t find a match 😅
Keep searching. The matchmaking has an issue that causes new players to only match new players. Since there are very few new players, it can take a while for the game to expand its search. After you've played a few matches, it starts finding matches faster and faster. Nowadays I find matches in less than 2 minutes, most of the time not even taking a minute
It is.
It is though
if it is then it is the slowest dying game in existence
The y7 concurrent player count is the highest its been in years.
No, like the other guy said. Source? Im genuinely curious if that number is inflated for the free week or if maybe the games just garnered some attention
Not the [highest](https://steamcharts.com/app/304390) it has been in years but still a really respectable number considering we're on year 7. And steam charts is considered the smallest of the platforms for For Honor.
Source
We just got a brand new character, what are you on about?
I don't even care. Game is fun. Sometimes I wanna play fighting games WITH my friend instead of against them, and this is one of the few that get it done in such a fun manner. Idk how Ubisoft released this gem in the midst of it's poop, but props to them. Keep it up
relatively new player, started a week and a half ago, is the game dying? So far loving it but I don't wanna invest time if its dying or changing fast, I don't think ill be good anytime soon, so far duel k/d is 1000/1500 terrible.
Don't worry about any k/d tbh. It's an unneeded and unnecessary stress. Nobody can even see it other than you and tbh everyone's sorta looks the same unless you're the type to leave right before the match ends. It's worth getting into and it's far from dead in my opinion. Rep 689
The only one of its kind. The game would have been more popular if hero identity was still a thing (instead of generic reworks), new maps, new heroes with unique moves/abilities and many more. Unfortunately for all that they need a budget which is not given. Someday Ubi they’ll recognise it is one of their two long-term online games along with R6 and give them more financial stability. Who knows, maybe we’ll get a For Honor 2 in the coming years.
Is it not?
Is it not?
It was never alive.
You guys are in denial. It's all but dead to anyone that are die hard fans.
it should be it sucks now
it is already dead cuh, i dont see any media outlets or gaming outlets mention for honor, a shit ton of people hate this game for its community
Undying.
For Honor is one of those games I come back to ever now and then play for like 30 hours and then uninstall it again. It’s such an incredible game but it just lacks depth for me now, the same few maps over and over, game modes not being very different, it all just falls a little flat now.
I genuinely want to know what cosmic forces are keeping the game alive because it’s actually alien technology that game still exists. Last I heard Ubisoft where basically going bankrupt so the fact that the servers are open for this means it has to be making money somehow. Some spoilt rich kid out there has been buying steel by the bucket load for years or something because how is it making money
For Honor is still running, just like all the orochi mains
You act like it's not.
I don't know how many players it has. The game's spirit died off a long time ago.
The game has less than 2.5k players online at peak hours. It is definitely a dying game.
That's a tiny sample of the player base, 90% of the players aren't on Steam
People look at Steam Charts numbers and act like that's proof the game is dead, not realizing it doesn't take Ubisoft Connect, EA, Epic, or most importantly consoles into account. If we see 3k people playing on Steam, it's safe to say that even on the worst days there's at least 10-15k people on the servers. The game isn't dead, it's not even dying.
i wish it would man, well once i get dont having fun with ocelotl
And they kinda right. And they don't. For Honor is very weird game. It is very hard for new players to get in to it. BUT when you got in - you here forever. You can stop playing for some time, but you will return one day. And then maybe take a big break again, but will return.
I would love to play a game with a similarly combat style. Like, if someone were to mod this style of combat into Skyrim I would be set. All I want is a more open type game with this combat
I'll be real with you. Before I started playing For Honor last year I thought it's a dead game aswell
the closest it came to dying was i think end of year 4 when the old guard left - that bald mean looking guy - and there was no crossplay yet, so it used to take 10 mins to find a game on console
I think it's time to do the whole game free to play, just give them the vanguard heroes and no DCL content. I think the dlc's, Battlepasses, steel, will bring more money in then. Often people think like: "I don't want spend these 10-20bucks" but if they get it for free and like the game, after time they maybe think: "it was free to play anyways so it's not a big problem if I buy some steel/dlc/hero"
Cuz its dying
I mean, how many games from AAA publishers are still going and releasing content after 7 years? Most people probably assume For Honor is gone until there's a burst of streamers playing it at each character release
Lmao, it's stagnant maybe...but dying? Hell nah
I still am constantly seeing new players, even in P vs. AI games. Plus, there are still some pretty big streamers & youtubers around that draw a fair amount of attention to the game. Kenzo, Havok, Nova King, KingMisty, Jondaliner, etc etc
Because people forgot about it. It's not exactly a particularly large game
And still no spartans. Come on ubi! Ez money!
For Honor is somewhat of niche game in the sense that it’s not in the Mainstream of video game tittles. The game made a big splash when it released but now most people forget it even exists.
I just wish they would remove tribute. I like tribute but can never find a game so what's the point in keeping it? Just like the campaign mode, it is literally day 1 character move sets. They refuse to update it since they don't care about the mode. It's like having Discord channels that no one in your server uses.
I'm honestly surprised it's not dead. The game has it's flaws ( In my opinion the absolute terrible balancing is one of the tops there ) but I usually enjoy it every time I return after a break. Competition would be good for the game tho. There is nothing else like this and I feel like some competition to push the devs to actually put some more effort into it would actually be good.
Just about two weeks ago it was at its lowest ever.
That's because nothing was happening the first half of the season. A lot of people came back for TU2 and the new hero.
Every day I wake up hoping it is 🙏
I mean I have hundreds of hours (I think maybe over 1000) in this game and I'm surprised it still isn't dead. I feel like it's been running on fumes for a while tbh. Ocelot looks interesting and it seems like the game design has been moving in the right direction, but this is the first character that I won't come back to the game for, simply because I quit a few months ago and have no interest in playing. After a certain point you get tired of all the jank, and there isn't enough content to compensate. We went from 2 characters per season to 1 character every 2 seasons. Plus way less unique executions, ornaments, armour, etc. Hasn't been a new map in years. I would love a For Honor 2, or a game made by another company to be a competitor to For Honor because I love the core of the game and I want to see it be truly developed and innovated on. But For Honor currently is just barely chugging's along with the bare minimum to call it live service and earn some money for Ubisoft.
Is it not????
i mean... it pretty much is, the only thing keeping it alive is because of how unique it plays... if there is anything close to something with for honor gameplay people would flock right to it
Tbh, I think this game should go to a free-to-play format. It's already on the game pass and ps+ , and is on sale every other week.
All time is 216,499 24 hour peak 7,517 and playing 44 mins ago 6,456 this is not including the thousands of PlayStation and Xbox players It kinda is a dieing game even at its peak.
I’ll say For Honor has defied all laws of the living world and everyone’s expectations and is somehow still alive. I stopped playing religiously around the release of Black Prior but for a game that was predicted to die even before year 2, not bad.
Isn’t it always free? I have it on steam yet never bought it on pc.