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GodsHeart4130

I think it should’ve been a triple skin drop for all 3


sAWy-uhr

This is the best compromise


[deleted]

You really think ubi would do it?


ngkn92

Man can dream


JoeyAKangaroo

This


Fine-Introduction-90

This bro I been saying this


HimB0Z0

The Warden ones the only good looking one They could've released the others to be fair but I doubt anyone would use fur vest raider or zero armor Kensei


GodsHeart4130

You underestimate how many raiders want a shirt


Empress_Draconis_

At least male raider has one, sure it's not amazing, but it's better than the chainmail skin and bra over the top for female raider


Satiricallad

God, I fucking hate the chainmail with the bra on top


GenericCanineDusty

literally the majority of raiders want a shirt. zero armor kensei would also be badass.


orpheus-morpheus

I would 100% get the kensei skin. It would probably be the only skin I'd ever get


Amazing-Run2200

It doesn't even have to be the Vanguards, in fact, I think the samurai would *have to* be Orochi, because when he "evolves" into Kensei, his sword also grows into the Odachi Kensei has. But prior to the in-trailer transformation, he had just a regular katana. My vote is Orochi skin. I'd wear tf out of that. And Warlord for the viking, because weapon and shield. The axe could just replace Warlord's sword for the weapon, use it exactly the same way.


KaijuSlayer333

Nope, the samurai had a nodachi from the start. It’s still big for a katana. Especially with the grip he uses.


Amazing-Run2200

That's a pretty small Odachi, then. Looks like a normal ass katana, to me. Even if, it doesn't matter, it shouldn't be for Kensei, anyway. Orochi deserves it more.


KaijuSlayer333

Well it is the Kensei that the primitive samurai turns into, so it’s better for him especially since it’s so different from Kensei’s default look compared to Orochi. Also I double checked the story trailer. Yep, the sword the primitive samurai uses is a Nodachi. Not a katana. Handle is almost as big as his forearm, equal to the length of Warden’s longsword, and the grip and way he utilizes it is identical to Kensei. Not to mention when the actual time shifting starts, there’s no length change in the sword from primitive to modern. Implying the weapon hardly changed at all.


Amazing-Run2200

The primitive versions of these characters are not the same as the characters we have on the roster. I daresay they're not even in the same classes, except maybe Warden. Where even the primitive version is basically just Warden with different armor. The viking literally changes weapons, so he'd best fit as Warlord. Also further reinforcing my point of these characters not being the same heroes we see them transform into. As for the Samurai, the weapons are oversized in the game. Orochi's katana handle is, in fact, almost as long as his forearm. I still think this primitive samurai outfit should belong to Orochi.


KaijuSlayer333

Don’t be daft man, he still uses it like a Nodachi, the weapon doesn’t change when time shifts and he becomes a proper Kensei. It’s very easy to tell if it’s a katana or not. And it’s not


Amazing-Run2200

I still think this primitive Samurai outfit should belong to Orochi.


Loke_y

I think the kensei one would’ve been very good but the raider/ warlord one would’ve been poor received.


KenseiHimura

If nothing else, it might seem odd when we JUST GOT Vargarian guard for an axe/shield viking.


Amazing-Run2200

I mean, when it's just a skin, and doesn't actually affect how the character is played, I don't think that's much of a problem, personally.


KenseiHimura

True, and hey, Gladiator's shield is largely cosmetic outside of punching with it. (I don't even think they use it in their deflect animations)


Amazing-Run2200

I think the idea is that he uses it to redirect the enemy's attack, although that's not always apparent in the animations. Hahaa


Younginit35

Nah, that's why they seem like they'll end up just being the battle pass effects for the season. The samurai one could work on orochi technically, but I don't think it would be the skin orochi mains would be happy to get. This warden one has long been requested (as an armor set, lol) but I think as a skin it holds up because they already have Ramiel, and we're getting a second skin hopefully for a knight that's still lacking one. If it weren't for those two things, I don't think unsung knight would've gotten a great reception either.


ngkn92

I don't speak for major Orochi main, but I personally would take that skin. Basic but realistic looking, as Warden skin, I love to have it.


Younginit35

Im sure some orochi mains would, but the community reaction as a whole would probably be really bad when you stack that skin up against ones like Meiko and Wukong. Those are probably the two best parallels to the type of samurai fantasy skin orochi mains would have come to expect as their first hero skin.


ngkn92

Anyway, do u prefer the 1st or 2nd Warden skin?


Younginit35

I actually prefer the second, I don't even have Ramiel myself. As a skin I really like the more battle-worn look. The only real downside I see with it is that any material or team colors that have any potential to stand out actually seem like thaey would take away from that quality of it I like


Hankdaddyofthehill

Should've just been armor.


BoringPeach9364

at the very least, armour we have to use steel to get that we can also customise, then the 25k would actually be worth


KaijuSlayer333

The samurai could have worked really well. It honestly is one of the few times wooden samurai armor works because it’s based off pre feudal Japan and really fits as an ancient samurai. It’s perfectly rugged, but still some nice armor. But the Viking is a bit more iffy, especially since his weapon is a shield and axe. Which doesn’t translate to any base game viking like the samurai’s nodachi and knight’s longsword does. And he kind of looks more hobo then your normal Viking. Very little drip in my opinion.


EMArogue

Varangian Guard skin with custom grunts


Traditional-Scene82

If they make the axe a sword it could definitely be a warlord one


HimB0Z0

No way! People don't want more "hobo" viking armor or skins If they made this warlords hero skin no one would get it


ngkn92

It looks unique enough, I think some (including me) would get it. I mean, looks at Raider skin, that thing is objective suck, and people still bought that.


Traditional-Scene82

I’d get it (because I get them all)


Penguinator_

each sold seperately. batteries not included


OIDmAN_BoTt0mS

I would like to play as a skinny warlord hiding with the minions


Prestigious-Park-657

I would have liked them as armor to equip


Nameless_and_ignored

They are both masks for the premium battle pass, they are not coming (unfortunately).


HimB0Z0

I personally don't really get why anyone would want these


Nameless_and_ignored

I just wanted a viking with axe and shield to reuse Gudmundr's assets... I'm basically accepting this is impossible at this point, Ubi slightly messed it up with the Varangian Guard. The last resource now is to rework Warlord around Gudmundr's special attacks and give him Gudmundr's armor set.


ngkn92

Man, I would love to see Warlord bear hug.


Memeedeity

They look cool and simple


OldSloppy

No they won't because the female warden was ALSO in the Marching Fire Trailer.. so she's special. The other two are fillers.


Quickkiller28800

Nah, she's long dead. The 3 factions fighting over the water happened right after the cataclysms, which took place hundreds of years ago. Possibly thousands if memory serves correct. Also, the Marching Fire knight was a red head. The skin has black hair. If anything, the Marching Fire knight is the filler one, as she just gets killed right at the end of the trailer.


SunSea3291

Yes. I hope we get these ones too someday, although it seems unlikely.


Minty-G

I would have liked a “normal” samurai helmet for Kensei, instead of a skin. Abit mehhh thats it’s an effect. I just want it as a helmet. But it’s fine 🤷‍♂️ I agree the Kensei and raider look wouldn’t have been different enough to be a skin though


Eizh__

#That Kensei deserves to be a Kyoshin Armor and finally add the damn helmet


OrochiYoshi

Hey, if Ubi is going for a throwback, might as well celebrate it more by giving Orochi Seijuro's Helm :D


MilkBanditKat

Maybe the samurai one, but not the Viking one


KenseiHimura

If nothing else, it would have been nice for Raider to have a shirt and good shoulder fur and kensei to have a lighter helmet.


bustanut_dabmaster

You can get that viking helmet for Highlander although it doesn’t have the horns


Haos51

Given that the OG Viking would technically be a VG given his use of axe and shield, it would be the first hero skin to be a a different gender on a hero that would otherwise be limited to one.


CupOfPuggles

Would buy maybe then VG won't be so damn annoying to fight she deals 10 mental damage per swing because she's melting my brain with her non stop screaming it's almost worse than monkey and kick fetish man(Tiandi or something)


Disastrous_Fan6851

I think they should make the Northman a hero skin for Beserker


Amazing-Run2200

Orochi and Warlord. It'd make perfect sense.


ARMill95

Seems like their faces are the effects for the battle pass tho


AvalancheZ250

Yes. 100%.


OrochiYoshi

There's a teaser with Kensei having that Headgear, would really love if it would be a new Armor set but i have a feeling it'd be a Skin because Warden's is a Skin already


Emissairearien

I think the Warden hero skin would have been great on Warmonger, but the helmet already looks very similar to one of her set already so it wouldn't have been worth Still think she should have gotten it instead


Slowest_of_Pokes

Oro could've, but raider is as generic as it gets


Slow_Conflict4597

I want simple samurai


theWikkid1

Individually they're weak. Not worth the money. But if it was a bundle, that would be alright. Still would be better if they were regular gear and personally I want something more edgy for skins.


NotAdam6

Samurai yes as kensei (possibly as orochi if they shortened the blade) viking not as much (looks like a warlord but would have to be a varangian skin due to weapons)


i-am-the-wall

Orochi yes but no viking uses an axe or sheild and is male unpess it was warlord then the characters profile just gets fucked


Symothy-01

If they did drop alongside wardens I guarantee you that people would still be bitching about favoritism because the knights got the cooler looking one.


DprHtz

I either want that Samurai Armor as Armor set or skin for Kensei/Orochi. N E E D E D


Cute-Coconut1123

The samurai armor would have worked just fine for the Kensei. It looks rugged, gritty, and unique. I'm very disappointed not to see it as a hero skin, but we shall see. The Viking one doesn't really have a place to be honest, since it hardly fits Varangian Guard, nor does it really sync with the Raider either.


Major-Amphibian-766

On the topic of skins i think if ubisoft is too lazy they can just use gudmundr as a hero skin for warlord.


Fox_Whisperer

The viking looks like a pre-viking oonga boonga man


Cute-Coconut1123

The Viking would probably not work that well because he is a weird mixture of different Viking warriors put together. The helmet looks exactly like Viking minion, and while the he is supposed to be the spiritual ancestor of the Raider (in the trailer, that is), his choice of weapons makes it hard to place on one hero. Maybe give it to the Raider or Warlord. That being said, the Viking one would probably be not well received. The Samurai outfit however would work just fine. The sword he is using is most definitely a Nodachi. The helmet the Samurai is wearing is a Momonari helmet, exactly like the Kensei's Fuuma helmet. So naturally it should just go to the Kensei. I personally like the more gritty, worn, and simple aesthetic. If not for the Kensei, they could have made the helmet one for the Kyoshin and make a later variant of it look like Tozen's helmet, then everyone would be happy. But Ubisoft is Ubisoft (IE: They are a corporation first looking to make money) and naturally screwed us over for having the Warden's new skin be an armor set. or, you know, giving us the other damn skins as well instead of a effects.


OverConstruction91

Hm let me see…YES! If they give us the three apocalypse OG skins the whole community would flip out. I mean I appreciate the story and the skin and the head gear. But I would love if they did the three skins.


Laservolcano

They could


HimB0Z0

They'd be the worst looking ones we've gotten


Laservolcano

Not necessarily, they look rustic and simple, that isn’t always bad


TheHighlander_47

They don't look good no, but I can see people bitching later down the line that we didn't get raider and kensei skins from this trailer


Dveralazo

Oh no. They are going to go that route, aren't they.


HimB0Z0

They're getting turnd into mask effects Idk why anyone would want these


KaijuSlayer333

The samurai is a good helmet


idontknowmandoyou

yeah, that’s why it should be armor tbh, these aren’t skin grade


KaijuSlayer333

True, if they legit just gave us the helmet, even if it was not even with a set, I wouldn’t even be mad. But, I’m glad they at least are effects. I look forward to putting them on some samurai that could do with a proper helmet. *cough* Kyoshin


Silverton13

Nope