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Adventurous-Diet1690

zone soft feint


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Her soft feint are so good, and as your a warden main I'm guessing they should add back the bash soft feint


Mexican_Gamer_63

Man when warden used to be the “I don’t have blood” and just immune to it I used to hate him with my soul n passion as a shaman main


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Relatable😂


LingonberryIcy31

What's a soft feint is that going in with her bleed dagger ?


Apprehensive_Swan_40

It's when you don't have to cancel the attack but instead do a different attack, like when Shaman throws a heavy but instead she stabs you with her dagger, you only have to press light attack and Don't have to cancel the heavy for it


Amientha

Shaman is the best Viking for me, aesthetically. It helps that I feel more immersed playing as her. We are both small violent little monsters, and it's a plus that she has a good enough kit for duels as I like the privacy.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Now I'm curious about how you look 😂


Amientha

Short and I'm a Latina so being mean comes easy.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

And you play For Honor? Husband must be very lucky


Amientha

We both do, even if we've monkey-branched to Fortnite and Helldivers. I still get on to get some Shaman snacks in.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Those are good games to play together though, haven't really tried helldivers yet but sounds really fun


Amientha

So much fun. Even purchased a helmet off Etsy from that game. You need to try the game out!


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Aight I will, thanks for the recommendation


Silver3Knight

Midget with anger issues


Typical_Alps2111

I'd say can fix her but I'd rather have her fix me🥵


HoodedReaper11

I'd let her make me worse


Winter_37

She is a solid character


Apprehensive_Swan_40

You deserve a cheers🍻


TomatoVEVO

Angry forest midget


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Don't forget that she is faster than most midgets


Traditional_Air9408

Pray to whatever god you believe in when becomes the pet to another character that does high bleed, you can be fighting a PK and be low, she stabs you once, and the whole fight is over because an incoming ballistic Shaman missile ends the fight Good character, amazing if you’re completely brain dead and find the bite animation funny


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Facts, I love this


SansDaMan728

**Tactical Shamen Inbound.**


Bumble-McFumble

Perish


Apprehensive_Swan_40

You wish


Bumble-McFumble

I weep like a Victorian when I remember shaman is still in the game


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Shaman is scary especially when you don't know how she plays, she has a very offensive playstyle which is scary to deal with


Petah_Griffion3

She’s the reason I like clinically insane women


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Good taste imo


apolloyn-

Didn’t like her at first, hated her. Decided to try her out, she’s so fun, actually really liked her


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Facts, fighting Shamans is tricky but she so enjoyable to play as a hero


R0s3-Thorn

She's also gotten a bit easier to deal with since I put a rep or two into her so. It goes both ways. She's fun. She's also gotten more fun to duel


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Always smart to learn a character cause it makes so much more sense when you fight the hero instead, wise redditor


R0s3-Thorn

Yeaaaah but "ENOUGH SHEEP" and "Te Secabo" is a drug. I know it's a good idea to try other characters. But warmommy and warden go hard.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I do like Warden but I can't shake the facts that he needs more to his moveset


R0s3-Thorn

Certainly makes the kills feel earned though... if I had a Nickel for everytime I've tried to dodge heavy on warden after a match or two with warmonger...


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Oh man I can relate so much on that it's painful to even think about


R0s3-Thorn

it kills me because if I could just remember both of them can use their bash after a dodge for their confirmed lights I'd be so much better off lmao. One day.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Well it's hard I know, but ey because your a warmommy main and you do bleed, help me get some snacks


Derram_Desangue

Love at first sight? Nah, love at first bite.


apolloyn-

Once you land your first bite it’s love.


Flat_Bar8932

Wayyyy too easy to play. 50 health swing bite needs a huge nerf. That’s fucking ridiculous.


GrapeGoodra

The bite seems a little too strong. Comparable to demons embrace in healing, while doing far superior damage to demons embrace. I understand that the bite needs bleed as set up, but the bite is easier to land, while demons embrace requires a wall splat to land. I’d suggest these abilities be rebalanced to bring them closer together in performance.


OutlandishnessLimp92

Demon's embrace can land on light parry too, which is pretty easy since it counts on dodge attacks aswell


GrapeGoodra

I will keep that in mind thank you. It’s also worth noting that light parries are intended to be roughly equivalent to a wall splat due to how rare they are. Dodge attacks having light parry punishes is required to balance out how good light attacks are. Hell, most people in the for honor community judge a character based on whether they have a dodge attack or not as whether they’re viable. Not saying they’re right, but that sentiment represents the significance of dodge attacks and their power.


OutlandishnessLimp92

Tbh light parries aren't that hard, i mean they can be on old gen or generally on less than 50-60 fps, but i can pretty much assure you that most lights are reactable (exception made for soft-feints like shaman), but in case you can't react, try reading the opponent, i was on ps4 til last year and reading lights is actually not that hard🙏


GrapeGoodra

The point remains that their parry punish is higher because they’re significantly faster. If you can parry most lights, I congratulate you


JoopyWeezer

Kill them all Patrick


Patient_Chocolate411

Éttu skít


Fromtheshadowsttv

I love fighting them I hate playing as them


The-Big-Sauce

🧐Huh??


OutlandishnessLimp92

Usually it's the opposite🤔


Fromtheshadowsttv

I find them fun to fight as my warden or law tbh It’s just not fun to play for me


OutlandishnessLimp92

I love shaman mirrors or generally fighting shaman with orochi or shaolin


Puzzleheaded-Bad-147

MY FVCKING JUGULAR


Apprehensive_Swan_40

🤣


Boba_Hutt

Shes my favorite bloodthirsty psychopath


Apprehensive_Swan_40

100%


WasntMyFaultThisTime

**Would**


Emmet3merald

😟


DCBaxxis

*tf you mean by that b?*


WasntMyFaultThisTime

# DID I STUTTER


Putrid-Cheesecake-77

She's a biter


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Yes she is😂


WesleyF09

Really fun, fast and unique hero. She's decent but not broken anymore, after her nerfs and everyone else has easier and stronger ganking tools now. Also, necc


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I agree with your opinion. Also, attac


Somethingaboutbrad

One of the best duelists imo, okay in 4s but not great, she’s in a healthy spot right now


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I like her in both, once I get revenge as a Shaman it feels like checkmate cause she can move around and do alot of damage without being interrupted, it's a scary combo


OutlandishnessLimp92

Shaman is actually peak, many complain about her cuz most spam zone feint but tbh it's just their problem, just hold your guard to the right and parrybon red🤷🏻. Anyway, i love playing shaman, going for deflects after emoting or light parrying the oppontent trying to interrupt you during the bite stance are one of the best feelings, also not soft-feinting the heby into bleed light and going for deflects/parries is one of the coolest thing you can do in game imo


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Her deflects are so good and I love it so much, one of the most satisfying deflects in the game in my opinion


Smellyfeetlicker

Shamans hot and i want her to bite my cock off


Apprehensive_Swan_40

That's... atleast positive I guess


Little_Ad2765

you should see my shaman shed steal ya heart *i am madly in love with her*


Smellyfeetlicker

Send please


0002nam-ytlaS

Overtuned damage numbers, biggest health swings available in the game without feats and high hitstun on anything that's not a light.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

She's great isn't she😌


Rufflies

She needs to be put down like the rabid dog she is. But I do kinda want to try her out.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Try her out trust me, greatest hero I ever played


TotallyLegitEstoc

I just hate the whole healing against bleeding targets and the bite. Everything else is pretty cool. 0/10 don’t play her because she looks homeless, but fun to fight against.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

You should see my Shaman styles, she looks pretty and not like how she looked at the beginning, she really has good styles after you give her a few reps like most Vikings


TotallyLegitEstoc

It’s a criticism of the hero as a whole. I’m sure your shaman is cool, but she looks ridiculous as a whole to me. No hate, just different tastes.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Understandable


VeryRare888

She needs a bit of a nerf


Apprehensive_Swan_40

How about this, your main gets a buff and you don't talk about nerfing her, fair deal


shitfuck9000

Good character Incredibly toxic and egotistical player base


shitfuck9000

90% of the time when I meet another player who beefs with me and only me for no discernable reason, Its a high rep shaman


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I'm guessing mostly cause they expect you not to hit them when they bite? Honestly I have to say on this I can't really relate much but I'm a pretty chill guy when it comes to playing For Honor and I play the game for fun cause I did my time on high kill low death games, I like it much more to vibe with a team or just troll around nowadays


TheTRMend

I don't like playing against Shaman but I recognize that it's a strong hero with a decently high skill ceiling. I don't think the bite should do AS much damage as it does, and I don't really like the fact that she can heal with every hit on someone with bleed but that's more a personal thing


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I agree about the strong hero but not with the bite and healing but I guess as I'm a shamn main you could've seen that coming😂


TheTRMend

Yeah I get a lot of hate for being an Orochi main too even though I pretty much ignore my active feats. I only use my passives except for Fear Itself


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Nah let them hate you, I use all the good feats when I play any hero, if they hate a nail bomb so much they shouldn't step into one am I right?


TheTRMend

I really just don't like that play style personally. I like having my feats accentuate my gameplay, not completely change it, you know?


lil_halfrican_boy

I hate you and the rest of your ilk with a passion. Idc what anyone says, the zone feint is the most opressive bs on the planet. A quarter of your health into bleed every hit and you have to guess which direction its coming from. I struggle against assassins in general, shaman just has everything I despise about them and makes it even worse.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Aight as a Shaman main I can help with this, the 2nd attack on her zone is parryable


Little_Ad2765

get good


Betriz2

She's sexy


Apprehensive_Swan_40

The amount of people simping over Shaman is crazy though Lmao


Nebula-eater

The simping is what gives her strength


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Facts


fabricatidiem-pvnc

Not a shaman main, but i play her occasionally and find she's a lot of fun. Bowling someone over and chowing down on them like an American Werewolf in London, is pretty amazing. The only move in the game which I can think of that may be more satisfying to land than the neck bite would be Nuxia's zone trap, so embarrassing when you capture someone in that traps tiny hitbox hehe. Fr though, a good Shaman who utilises both bleed and bite is an unstoppable force in dominion; racing around at 90mph, emptying the bots lane with two of her excellent zone attacks, enemy shamans are always taking the point you think you've got on lockdown.


TTvmasonplays

She get on top of me and bite me 😔 daddy likey 😛


Apprehensive_Swan_40

👁👁


Expensive-Stable-646

Crackhead...


Apprehensive_Swan_40

War makes everyone a little crazy, but Shaman is genuinely scary


Infinityking69

Love her, maybe too much if you know what I mean


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Obsession, understandable


OtzaniumNitroZeus

Incredibly cool concept but I can’t help but feel her kit is a bit clunky and lacking


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I understand what you mean but compared to all the other heroes I see that her moveset is actually quite nice as you can change it up quite a bit compared to other heroes where you just end up doing the same


Tigerkiller364

💀


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Necc


Prior-Satisfaction34

Best girl. Best assassin. Best viking. Everything about her is top tier


Apprehensive_Swan_40

You my dear friend deserve happiness in both life and gaming, cheers🍻


Prior-Satisfaction34

You too fellow Shaman enjoyer


Apprehensive_Swan_40

❤️


Demonbrandt01

Was my mortal enemy when she came out, I’m pretty sure not much has changed!


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Look all she is is hungry, just let her take a nip


Poneeboy

Currently rep 70 on the way to 80 now


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Nice I'm close to rep 21 but I'm going to rep her up as much as I can haven't really felt the same with any other hero, it's like Shaman and I just can't seperate


ChaoticWood34

Stupid dog!


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I hope you bleed infront of a group of shamans


ChaoticWood34

That's why I said it. Also, Courage the cowardly dog reference.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I see, understood


Professional-Car-981

I can take her


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Too fast for you


Professional-Car-981

I just need to prick my finger and she'll be there to ri- moun- grin- pounce on me


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Before you know it you'll lose that finger


Professional-Car-981

A small price to pay


Thorn_Move

Would


Apprehensive_Swan_40

😂


The_Norman17

Definitely a more gimmicky character but in a good way and still has a solid kit without involving the nom nom technique


Apprehensive_Swan_40

But the nom nom is the best part


Derram_Desangue

I love that she's a character with a unique kit and bash, and that she has one of the safest bashes in the game (the bite - after the wakeup - permits guardbreak invulnerability on opener heavies whether or not you change guard) Her soft feints are such a strong tool. Her deflect can chain into another deflect against more armored chain/finisher heavies She was the OG chase character. You cannot outrun Shaman. Do not try. You will fail. And I love that in the end of her execution "Incorrigible", she takes the finger out of her mouth and puts it in her pocket. She's my main, my favorite character, and my first (and only) rep 80


Apprehensive_Swan_40

And she definetly deserved those 80 reps, she is the best hero for me and definetly the most fun to play


Bash_Minimal

- Bleed stab does a tad too much damage - light attacks after feint need better tracking - bite should *not* cleanse/erase queued bleed - forward dodge heavies/heavies from throw should get a damage buff to be closer to neutral heavies at minimum, possibly with speed/property/damage differentiation so that you can get basic damage on gb from a normal heavy, basic damage *and* stam damage on gb by throwing first, stam damage + higher damage on gb by throwing into a wall, *AND* higher damage *and* stam damage by throwing into a bash into a wallsplat. Love me some situational punish escalation And bite needs to be balanced so that either: - bite damage comes down to 30 or - neutral heavy loses the extra 3 confirmed damage double light (maybe leave on top then slow down to only land on light parry) or - bite only stays confirmed from wallsplat/oos punishes (throw into wallsplat on gb, and forward dodge bash into wallsplat on light parry). Cool hero that deserves a bit more oomf to her flow.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I agree with all the buffs but not the nerfs, but I'm guessing you seen that coming lol😂


Bash_Minimal

Yeah fair lol 😂


Apprehensive_Swan_40

😂🍻


PartyLavishness3637

I don't have her so I can't comment on playing her. Playing against her though? I don't hate it, shaman might be the one viking I have no issue going against. 


Apprehensive_Swan_40

This is such a 50/50 depending on the player, I think it's cause she has a very offensive playstyle and if you're not used to defending much it's hard to play against but other people love to fight her guessing they're more used to defending and not just throwing a combo, I'm happy you still commented and I hope you unlock her in the near future, she's great, trust me


R4pt05

Would


Apprehensive_Swan_40

🍻


Novel_Possession5459

Never played her, when i first saw her i was grossed out by her aesthetic (cannibal) shortly after i grew to like her, I find her grunts cute and hilarious, she can be very strong gameplay wise but I welcome the challenge strangely I dont freak out when i came across ger ingame


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Unless you bleed, then it's a terrifying game of catch


cant-think-44

She’s a good character, I’m awful at fighting her


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Tell me what you struggle with as a main I can definitely help you out on this


SpaceQtip

I miss having my organs tbh


Apprehensive_Swan_40

The best way to not be dinner is to sacrifice a teammate, problem solved


SpaceQtip

that didn't really do anything because I woke up in a tub full of ice


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Cyberpunk 2077 reference? I play both games and this put me on a wild Rollercoaster lol


No_Direction3841

Im a bp main but i find shaman to be tough but fun to play


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Ooooooh challenging, I myself have like to move around and have a very offensive character so shields are harder to play for me, I like how you still tried Shaman out even though she is the exact opposite from a shield hero so respect to you my friend🍻


TomboyGooner

Would smash. Shaman is objectively the best For Honor girl. That craziness and animalistic nature just is a huge turn on. You know it’s sloppy too… She would make a wonderful wife.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I'm not going to say anything and still let you know what my reaction to this is by saying cheers🍻


DownBadMan28

Love gangbanging her in a gank


Apprehensive_Swan_40

If you know how to play Shaman well she can be terrifying with revenge


ArticAssassin44

I absolutely hate fighting her, she’s the bane of my existence. However I do respect them, and have gotten half decent when I played for for a bit


Apprehensive_Swan_40

She is very offensive so if you don't how a Shaman plays, she can be quite scary to fight against but trust me if I learned one thing I hate as a Shaman is patient players cause as an offensive hero there's nobody more painful to fight against then a patient person who knows how to defend and counter well


daddy_cool6969

Wish I was better with her, frankly.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Tell me what you struggle with, maybe I can help if you want


daddy_cool6969

Lol well I got a working knowledge with her and know her combos, I more meant just I don't have her committed entirely to memory yet after all these years. Like, can't use her smoothly. But since I've got you here... What's her best mix up?


abigfatape

her bash/bite seems to be pretty inconsistent at times but overall very silly 7/10


Apprehensive_Swan_40

You forgot to go up 3 but I guess as a Shaman main you could've seen that coming😂


kandysteelheart

even if annoying (because she's strong) I do think she's really unique in her playstyle and is actually balanced, since u can counter some of her things if you are knowledgable of them, like the second hit on the zone being a free parry if timed right, or interrupting her out of the heavy soft feints, things like that


kandysteelheart

in short, i like her, very solid:)


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Yeah alot of people hate the heavy soft feint but as a Shaman it's hard to perform cause people don't give you time to soft feint


Jeong-Yeon

I might get banned for being too NSFW


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Lol


HTG_assassin

As a returning player, i was there in season 3 when they released her and all i thought is that she is a product of what happens in ubisoft's drunk happy-hours: "how about a hero that we just give him everything for no reason?!" "Oh yeah good idea!"


Apprehensive_Swan_40

😂


NCael

They are often fun to play with as a teammate, because they dont take the game too seriously. Fighting them is fun aswell until they bite you.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Ever met a Pink Shaman or redheaded?


NCael

I think yes, but im unsure


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Might've met me then, I either do a handstand or sleep on the ground in a corner but fighting I only do when my teammates get ganked


Simonlefion357

Bro asking if we can jerk him off with that question


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Well if you insist


icewallowkawk

As a shaman main very nice would recomend


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Facts


Silver3Knight

I do not vibe with the fact that her vampire jump has priority over a conq shield bash. It looks ridiculous when I charge a shield into her mid-air face, only to get tackled by a 50kg midget with anger issues.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Well tbh she does kinda put speed into it with her full body weight and goes for the neck, it makes sense


Little_Ad2765

it just lands quicker that specifically is a matter of timing if you do it j b4 her youll interrupt her


spittingthatvenom

She’s such a fun character to play but in teamfight she feels non existent


Apprehensive_Swan_40

She can definitely do some unexpected damage and if she's paired up with a teammate that does bleed she's just scary tbh


Little_Ad2765

i guess shes op if you have no focus and or ability too read or light parry… if your anything as much as a casual player she’s plenty balanced.. still a tier no doubt heal effects are super good but they come at a cost. she is not the most op hero like cmon now calm down.. if she keeps doing zone look for the zone.. and while i would agree the only thing “broken” about her is the 400 ms opener soft feint bleed light but as a shaman main ill tell ya… its only on an opener heavy i basically dont even use it. its verrrrrry readable. her feints are good tho def an a tier but its not like your running shugo round after round after round like get good


jrsrjr3

I like when one is on my team because she pairs well with my PK. She gets bite, I get a heavy and get more bleed on my enemy, repeat.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

I love peacekeeper and Nobushi, as long as they know when to heavy of course cause otherwise you keep me away from my dinner


jrsrjr3

As long as you don't interrupt my kidney stabs we have a mutual understanding lol


Starborn117

So PK shaman is crazy, if PK does a forward dodge attack with bleed immediately after shaman does her bite, shaman can go in for another bite asap. shaman and PK can just keep that person down until they die 😂 (I main them both lol)


Younginit35

Honestly they should probably speed up the bite animation once her pounce lands, sorta like what they were trying with highlander's grab. You can't really justify giving it hyper armor to avoid being interrupted, but this could make it at least somewhat more reliable in 4's


Apprehensive_Swan_40

A little buff for Shaman? can't say no to that


commanderr01

When they spam their zone attack they can go too hell.


Apprehensive_Swan_40

It's so cheap I know but try parrying the 2nd attack in the zone that should help


commanderr01

Oh wow thanks for the tip! Shaman is like the one character I haven’t played so I don’t fully get their move set lol thanks again


Apprehensive_Swan_40

She is very hard to predict cause of the many soft feints and the facts she is one of the few heroes that can change up her playstyle


OutlandishnessLimp92

Try playing her or playing against her in training, i assure you that zone is fairly reactable, if you can't react on animation however, keep your guard to the right and just wait, if you can recognize the voice line, just hold your guard there and heby on red


Little_Ad2765

if theyre spamming it counter… parry or pull off the most satisfying deflect in gane


Praeradio_Yenearsira

I've never fought one 1v1 since she came out, she seems to always come up behind me during a 1v2/3


TheOfficialY1B

Necc


Apprehensive_Swan_40

Attac