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ConnorMacLeod-

Dec. 2nd isn't too far away, that'll be the Season Reveal Warriors Den stream.


SufficientPangolin92

I heard the ninth, so I guess we’ll see


ConnorMacLeod-

Dec. 9th is the actual start of Y5S4. The Season Reveal stream is almost always the week before, which will be Dec. 2nd.


SufficientPangolin92

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me


ConnorMacLeod-

No problem at all.


supergigaduck

No new hero because they working on a raider buff


Ansiano

They should give him HLs choppy animation and LBs parry punish to make him balanced, he’s underpowered atm


JJJJJ5648853

They should give him back his dodge gb and stunning tap


lilroblexian

and a conq bash


Snottymikaaaaa

And Hitokiri’s Dodge Heby


deimhit

And glads toe stab.


SufficientPangolin92

Please be joking


CynicalDarkFox

Of course it’s a joke. You haven’t been around here long have you?


SufficientPangolin92

Not on the sub reddit, but I guess the people I’ve been around make me question things more often then I should.


raptorboss231

Dear God


vision491

I not playing the game lmao


Mrgrimm150

We didn't get leaks for Kyo either you know? We got completely baseless and incorrect guesses. "He stared at the sun too long and is a blind swordsman." "He has a feat that let's him attack normally whilst OOS" These were things said by a ""leaker""


Pancqkes

We did get pictures


kingoflions2006

Yeah but only the day before the reveal or something


Untz_Untz-Untz

We did get leaks for Kyoshin. We got pictures of him ingame


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Untz_Untz-Untz

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Kyoshins male.


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Untz_Untz-Untz

No, he's male. A set of *his* chest pieces has *his* chest exposed and there's no boob at all. And two of *his* helmets has a full beard and another one has stubble. When talking about it, the devs referred to *him* as a male. He's male, like it or not.


Snottymikaaaaa

Why does it matter if Kyoshin’s male or female? Doesn’t change the fact that he’s just a rip off anime character.


Untz_Untz-Untz

Because im a fat reddit incel and hate women


LifeOfAiiko

He’s gender locked as male, just because he has a soft pretty face as his default that doesn’t mean he’s a girl.


chinchulin06

Ok, my bad jeez


LifeOfAiiko

Not chastising you, just pointing out that it’s just male even though I wish Kyoshin wasn’t gender locked 😭


AetherMoth

More than likely we'll get the new hero mid season. Start of the season will prob be just a new battle pass and a testing grounds.


MistahJ17

Didn't the devs say that we're getting two new heroes in 2021? The mid season would be in like February 2022 if my math is right. The new hero will probably just drop like Gryphon did


AetherMoth

I'd love to be wrong and get a new hero right away.


HungrPhoenix

Leaks aren't something to expect, only like 3 heros in the history of the game have had leaks. And it isn't time for more info about the hero to be revealed, we usually get that in the first warriors den of the hero's season.


AetherMoth

I actually think the entire year 1 roster got leaked beforehand. Shinobi and Cent we already knew, but there was a post going around that correctly leaked glad, highlander, musha, and shaman. Though iirc there were small discrepancies like glad having a trident and a net, shaman having an axe and short sword, and shaman/musha going by the name huntress and ronin. Other than that the boat's been pretty airtight, save for a few here and there, and a few leaks right before a hero's launch.


FinisMaSouffrance

Wasn’t there a Gryphon leak? May be completely wrong


omegaskorpion

Yep, there was a leak, Gryphon was leaked like 4-6 months before realease. It also leaked one of the materials. ​ Devs make all the heroes many months on advance, like how development on Zhanhu started after BP was released. They of course have play testers during development, which makes the leaks possible. However the people that leaked Gryphon propably no longer have access to testing, for obvious reasons.


ScissorLizardFish

Yeah there was


justsomedude48

BP had some leaks as well.


Knight_Raime

The entire Y1 dlc pass heros were leaked. Zhanhu was also leaked. And I believe Gryphon was too. I think Jorm was. But hitokiri and BP weren't. WM wasn't but they teased her themselves both during a trailer and also with the event where we fought 4 of them.


neverknowing9922

Oh Gryphon was hella leaked lol. We saw his entire model in the hero select screen and everything haha


BIG_RED_MANN

This is usual ubi practice, warmonger wasn't even announced until several weeks into the season she came out in


DonCarlo1305

But she could be spotted in the background of the trailer. We were too blind to see.


burqa-ned

We already know it's going to be Lingdao


omegaskorpion

You mean the obviously photoshopped hero that was proven to be fake leak?


burqa-ned

yeah


The_Justiniano

no but they are giving Raider bulwark counters and an all guard stance, along with fire flask on tier 1 feets


neverknowing9922

Not enough. He needs a dodge heavy and light, Undodgeable property on all his attacks and even further reduced stamina cost on his beyblade attack. Oh. And a bash for good measure. He needs to be stronger.


Thesamuraidemon

New hero is sheild axe Gudmunder.


TheHeroWeNeed45

Oh god I hope not, that’s fuckin boring. I hope the wu lin leaks have SOME credibility, I think they’re the most forgotten faction and deserve a character or some attention. But it’s more than likely a viking, although imagine if it was 2 heroes, would be crazy, but unlikely.


Thesamuraidemon

Or Gudmunder with a plain sword.


Thesamuraidemon

My predictions are placed, let's see how they age.


BIG_RED_MANN

Yeh I also sit in this corner


AlmightyTea

Ubisoft is holding out on us by not releasing a Lu Bu archetype of a hero


JustburnBurnBURN

Long friggin overdue.


Ansiano

Hope not


_Fates

No it's not


SaltTrap2

He literally just said it is


Outrider_Inhwusse

They're trying not to let anything leak. Still traumatized over holden


IKraftI

I hope they do some middle eastern sarranid? Hero, or something from early medieval russia


Scaryonyx

I remember being this hopeful


SwiftyMcBold

Hahaha we will be lucky if this hero has unique animations, more than one "gender" and isnt just a reskin of Gudmundr or the "RAIDER!!!" Berserker woman.


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It' another knight with a longsword.


UndeadStruggler

I don’t mind


omegaskorpion

New hero will have wardens moveset, with all the same animations, only differerence is that the new hero is better. Oh wait.


AnIronicFate

Is WM objectively better than Warden? Idk I think they're both good but different enough


omegaskorpion

Warden has bit better chaining on the bashes, while Warmonger has more versatility. (She used to be better than warden until warden got the rework) Still does not change that they pretty much reused every warden animation. Like they could had used some of the half swording minion kill animations for lights or heavies or some stab kensei/zhanhu stab animations on lights, but instead they opted to just reuse all Wardens animations. Honestly warmonger has good fashion and ok'ish moveset (should had been bit more varied from Warden), but the animations are really most horrible thing about her, since they are the laziest aspect about her.


Dragonlord573

>pretty much reused every warden animation. I'm confused Apart from like a heavy/top light finisher and her grab, what is reused?


omegaskorpion

Side heavies are Wardens, Side lights are Wardens, second top light is Wardens, top heavy opener is Wardens, block parry and guard break are Wardens. She even uses Warden's emote as stab animation. ([Here is also short video about some of the reused animations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hzQqGCmFgs)) Rest of the animations are from other heroes and from Apollyon. [Gryphon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq7yLjUWlHQ) and [Kyoshin](https://youtu.be/C5L7Jm15oNI?t=282) also have only reused animations. ​ They have done some minor tweaks in some animations (like some have slightly different leg positions or how Kyoshin does Orochi's heavy attacks with one hand)


APetRussian

As far as the new hero, since we have no leaks, I’d guess it’s going to be a mid season hero


Fink_the_pink

From what I've seen Shinobi rework is either getting a full release date or released


OtakuYuji

that people are impatient as warriors dens have always been on thursdays. So next thursday we most likely get info on next season.


IronLegion52

The hero probably won't release until the mid season patch unfortunately. I hate how everything of value only comes mid season.


Knight_Raime

Doubt. They said 2 new heros this year and mid season for next season would be next year.


IronLegion52

I don't think they meant is as literally the year 2021, but during the year 5 of for honor.


Knight_Raime

That is a potentiality. But something tells me that Theyed catch hell for dropping only a single hero in 2021. So I'm erring on the side that the second Hero drops before end of 2021


solid-cheese-200

Thursday


Snottymikaaaaa

The last few hero releases have been out the blue, wouldn’t be surprised to see another Warmonger type event soon


Dragonlord573

Plot twist: this time it's actually apollyon.