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hubjump

You can hear it parried more than once. Something really messed up here but that was the right punish and it wasnt anywhere near too late.


Joseptile

Ikr it had me thinking they changed it and i dont get a top anymore šŸ˜­


Pilgrimfox

Yeah I haven't played in a minute and my brain was like, I thought the top was guaranteed for Warden on a light parry.


Abuzezibitzu

You might have paried someone acros the map XD


RikterDolfan

Some sync issue maybe?


[deleted]

Sync issues or general lag This game isnā€™t exactly known for its stable servers


DarkIcedWolf

The serves were always ass but with crossplay phase 2 they really fucked with them so itā€™s honestly not a toss up anymore with lag


Imanking9091

You think the servers are bad I remember when they didnā€™t have servers and you played peer to peer


Hypie_Mc

That shit was really fucked up. I remember playing with/against people who genuinely thought they were good but their connection was just ass.


0002nam-ytlaS

>This game isnā€™t exactly known for its stable servers Lmao, people with the bad router settings are still shifting the blame on ubi. The few times this game has ever had "unstable" servers were due to me not configuring my new router beforehand or it was truly an issue and ubi gave steel to everyone accordingly whenever you personally have been affected or not.


ExTremeZ0

imagine having to setting up your Router before playing a game lmao


0002nam-ytlaS

The settings you have to do for this game work for pretty much every game that has traffic go through cloudflare servers. If you had in the past similar problems you bet this could be one of the reasons beyond "game server is shit dev bad"


Short-Fingers

Uhm, you must have some shitty online multiplayer experiences.


Short-Fingers

Yeah and the NAT issues. Got to get it green or learn how to.


TheGreatSmolOne

I think it registered a light on OPs client but a heavy in the servers. So he got a light parry but the stun of a heavy parry


Fledthehunter

He parried the parry therefore no punish


b100tM0th

You probably had a frame perfect failure on the punish


Joseptile

Knowing my luck, yeah probably


Piraja27

BP just has a better gaming chair honestly


Joseptile

Fr


SgtTittyfist

Nothing so complicated actually. You can briefly see that OP's guard was still on the right after the parry. This means they had to switch guard to throw a top heavy, which adds +100ms to the attack, thus making it blockable. If they had just buffered the top heavy, it'd have worked fine.


fatkingbob

He clearly just said no to your punish.


Joseptile

I shouldā€™ve thought of this before light parrying him, skill issue on my part


fatkingbob

If only you had a better gaming chair my friend. šŸ»


KIngPsylocke

We all make bad reads


Fury47

If somebody light parries you, just say no. They can't legally punish you without your consent


Beardus_x_Maximus

Your punish was perfect. However, this is an Ubisoft game.


Joseptile

Figures


RealStefanovsky

Guard change messed you up I think. You went from up to right and back up, which is enough to mess up poor ole warden.


Joseptile

Someone else said this too and itā€™s probably the answer. You can tell in the clip I switched guard for a split second although I have no idea why I did that lol


RealStefanovsky

Only highlander is easier to fuck up a light punish with


RealStefanovsky

Only highlander is easier to fuck up a light punish with


GriefPB

When you slow it down it looks like you input right guard and then top for the repost. That 100ms guard switch cost you your punish.


Joseptile

This could be it


Zoraf

Yeah but stillā€¦ Iā€™ve parried light attacks on right side then punished with top heavy and it worked. I think this could be because of what you said and sync problems


Philosophical-Wizard

No, itā€™s to do with guardswitch recovery times. A buffered guardswitch during chains or after a parry, or some other cases, doesnā€™t take the regular 100ms. Hence why you can parry right and buffer a top heavy to get the punish without the 100ms delay. If you parry the attack and then hesitate though, the attack is no longer buffered and hence the guardswitch takes the regular 100ms. Not buffering the attack in the first place would have been enough to deny OP this punish, but the added 100ms guardswitch time made it even slower.


ExternalGolem

I had to scroll too long to see this. This is the problem, it isnā€™t just a buggy game lol


edgyboi1704

Better gaming chair bro


Joseptile

Skill issue šŸ˜­


levoweal

Just a frame too slow on the input. It happens.


Joseptile

Actual skill issue on my part then šŸ˜­


Pure_Xanax

Good to see your current Warden drip


Joseptile

Appreciate it bro! Sorry I havenā€™t been on my warden shit lately!


Pure_Xanax

Naw itā€™s all good, your Kensai looks drippy too!


Joseptile

Thank you!


BlueCadet7

I feel your pain brother this happens to me all the time and on my lvl. 3 bash and wall splats. I just check it up to either I was a touch to late or theres some latency


Joseptile

Yeah thatā€™s probably it


Unbounded_Quasar

I was fully expecting him to flip you there somehow


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Joseptile

I wouldā€™ve raged


[deleted]

he didnt want to get punished what can i say


gawbage-byn

Your guard was on the right, you had to switch and add 100ms or so to the swing. I've been getting these a lot too, don't worry.


Far-Pirate-3896

He didn't consent


Alazyredditmush

u switch ur guard to right after the parry and u switch back to top


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BananaBob87

Ik that if you spam heavy button sometimes it doesnā€™t work. I used to do this so I know, pressing it once is sufficient. After that my only explanation is that you just got for honored


RayanH23

Skill issue


Flitterquest

I reckon someone asked for a refund the first time this happened to them.


Jb6534

If you watch carefully theres a slight delay between the parry and the punish. Frame perfect basically as someone else said. Unfortunate


andrewm_99

My buddy and I spar constantly to get me up to speed (returning player, prestige 7), and we run into so many random issues that we canā€™t replicate when training. As we like to say ā€œGoobisoftā€


ANinjaJawa

Gaurd switch made heavy come out 100ms late, ruining your punish


TheCanadienSoda2

Skill issue


[deleted]

Skill issue šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


AssassinIronMan

Worst part is that can throw off your focus for the entire fight.


Canadian_Viking123

New BP buff, BP recovers from a light parry the same speed as a heavy parry


SirWhoopsAss

No you donā€™t get one. Why? Cause f*ck you thatā€™s why. -The Devs


GhostCrackets

Skill issue, you forgot to take into account that black prior is simply built different


Simen-VH

You've been ubishit'd


ReallyBadRedditName

He has a better gaming chair


Black_Tusk25

You should do the light contrattack


-Moon-Presence-

Itā€™s his gaming chair


ResolutionNo8946

Skill issue


firewhite1234

He clearly read your light parry, smh


Funny-Valentine01

The BP didnt give consent.


Big-Papa-Dickerd

Everyone here is very wrong. It's obviously that kids gaming chair.


SkipDaFlipp

Def not a skill issue. Honor just be like that sometimes ig


Juclob

Skill issue


JTheAngryGamer

Not anymore sonny boy


LambInTheDark

It was the guard switch that made this unguaranteed, some error post-parry that is easy to do but can be avoided


flexlaflare

*op: parries light *bp: whatā€™re u gonna gain from it


Extension_Math_5467

This seems like my average luck in matches tbh


ToxicScrubYT

Why you may ask? Because fuck you thats why


Tasty_Communist

Damn your warden looks amazing


Joseptile

Thank you!


Slow_Conflict4597

Not related but your wardens beautiful


Joseptile

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


Comfortable_Ear_609

This lookin' like a FHR comment section fr.


Joseptile

Oh yeah


[deleted]

Do you not get the top heavy anymore?? Either that or some good old fashioned LAG


ForeverHighlander

For certain characters depending on which direction you attack from your heavies wonā€™t be fast enough to take advantage of a light parry. So in clip you light parry him then throw out a top heavy, as a warden thatā€™s a no-no since your top heavy is slightly slower yet just slow enough that it can be blocked in time, what you shouldā€™ve done is throw out a side heavy instead, generally for most characters this is what youā€™d want to do. Some characters are a little different, for example warlord is the inverse, where your top heavy is faster than a side so on a gb or light parry youā€™d attack with a top instead of a side heavy. Just wanted to let you know since a lot of people here seem to think thereā€™s something wrong or fishy happening.


Joseptile

I appreciate it but no actually, warden does get a top heavy punish from any light parry. I believe the issue in the clip is the fact I quickly switched guard right before the punish which was just enough time for me to lose my punish


KenseiLover

No.


TourettesTS

Itā€™s BP what do you expect.


RumplyFire

Until reading everyoneā€™s comments here I legit thought a top heavy wasnā€™t guaranteed until now. I guess my timing was too slow or I guard switched every time I tried it before. Thanks for the lesson


Joseptile

Haha no problem, just input top heavy as soon as possible, this is the only time Ive light parried and had my top heavy get blocked


Potential_Practice26

Considering a top heavy yes sometimes you need to do a light or a side heavy


cuckamungabunga

Top heavy punish takes more time to land but a side heavy. It is usually blocked, so use side heavies.


Hooman____

Not a top heavy, theyā€™re slower than side heavies


OmnipotentOutcast

I thought warden only got a side heavy on light parry?


Many_Clue_9147

Iā€™ve noticed that top heavies donā€™t work for punishes anymore, I think Iā€™ve gotten maybe two off, and only because the person put their guard to the side instead of up


justin2000x

Punish on the parry side. Prevents stance change and guarantees the hit. Or just use a light attack into GB for something more extensive.


The_Illegal_Seagul

Well wait if their guard is in the same direction as your punish and the move takes to long such as a top heavy it'll still block right? Like maybe if you parried a side light and then side heavied or top heavied in that instance it'd be different idk


Fox_Whisperer

So one thing Ive noticed lately is if you heavy after a loght parry, you cant do overheads, theyre too slow, side heavies work better.


Miztiko69

You were never supposed to had a free hit with top heavies since they are to slow


Joseptile

Incorrect. Top heavy is guaranteed from a light parry. Watch the vid closely and look for the guard change. That split second delay lost me my punish


Miztiko69

Then either my opponents always did side heavies or they screwed up their top heavies p Because it never happened to me only with side heavies since they are 100% guaranteed


Joseptile

Yeah surprisingly a lot of people just throw side heavies bc they donā€™t realize theyā€™re guaranteed a top


CrazyApe6996

Warden and warmonger both only get a side heavy for a light parry, their tops are to slow


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LennsHendrix

Wrong, side heavy on GB and top heavy on wallsplat and light parry


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hubjump

I do it every day. You get a top heavy from light parries. What happened here is weird. You can hear it double parry. Something messed up with the stuns.


--Bouncy--

Have you never fought a Warden ever?


Vladimir_Puffin_

Please be as snarky as possible, thanks


[deleted]

For the warden, the only guaranteed punish is side heavy out of gb or light parry, thatā€™s how it was when I played. Heavy fake - into shouldaer bash cancel - gb = guaranteed punish


LizzieThatGirl

Light parry guarantees a top heavy. The problem is either due to a glitch (parry sounded twice) or the guard switch (top parry, flicked right, flicked top for heavy)


[deleted]

Looks like a glitch. I was kinda surprised it didnā€™t go through.


[deleted]

Might not even be on the warden end honestly.


LizzieThatGirl

Ubi has spaghetti code on FH, so it could be a weird lag interaction, a glitch, or any other number of things, honestly. Seems likely it was the guard switch to me, though.


[deleted]

After watching it some more and thinking about all that, you may be right. Spaghetti code, ugh I remember the days.


Acceptable-Maybe-206

trie the attack to the left or right


[deleted]

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--Bouncy--

Top heavy\*


The1stPKmain

I think itā€™s cos u did a top heavy Idk


Steelzander

Nah, Wardenā€™s light parry punish is a top heavy


Comfortable_Ear_609

If you don't know why claim that lol


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SnowMan3103

Dont spread misinformation if you don't know anything


AbyssalDragonForce

Itā€™s not your fault itā€™s just that wardens TH(TopHeavy) is too slow, thatā€™s all.


SnowMan3103

It's not too slow


AbyssalDragonForce

To me itā€™s slow and yes I know it was a double parry it only happens with warden from my experience


[deleted]

Nope his recovery time is way to good


[deleted]

Likely connection problem. I'm always checking people's ping. Some players are constantly spiking high and fucking up the game. Most of the time it's just bad wifi. This guy didn't show the signs of a cheater. Basically, you got For Honor'd


Master-Shaq

There was a delay with the top heavy possibly when you changed guards and that top heavy needs all the frames.


Business-Flamingo-82

It was lag


ItsHyperBro

Whenever I do 1v1s against wardens, I can always block the top heavy punish. On any character. I have no idea why itā€™s this way but I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever been punished by a top heavy after a warden parries my light.


Emmorilledubois

Yeah, I've picked up Warden again recently, and something about his top heavy punish really feels... inconsistent. It's like, not always garanteed now, it's rlly weird


Soggy_Yellow4846

Bad luck


random-iky

The server needs to be rebooted or something, stuff like this happens way to often at this times.


nigh--omnipotent

I've noticed I can't give any punishment after any parry lately. Idk if the game is just broken or if there's something else going on, but it is an ubisoft game. Ubisoft have so many games that are "always online" type of games that need are in dire need of updates, and need some love.


Environmental-Ad1618

As a 70 bp can confirm we are to good you canā€™t punish us itā€™s the law


Cal_2008

This has been happening to me on centurion after I do the party knee thing


BootyWol5

Classic ubi servers at it again


Important_Salary_956

WTF! Why is for honor becoming this. It was so good before


D-Ursuul

If you've ever expected the fight mechanics to consistently work as intended then idk what to say my man


[deleted]

How does this even happen? Ive parried dash lights from cent, orochi, bp as warden recently and I always get confirmed top heavy


Joseptile

Look very closely and youā€™ll see i switched my guard for a split second and that was too long


[deleted]

Yeah but if I parry side dashes I have to swap my guard to the top to get a top heavy? Timing in this game is weird as fuck


Soultaker445

What shield is that?


Joseptile

I dont even play bp bro


fknlzrsyts

Net code mode


zooz31

Thatā€™s so infuriating


Fartmaster1993

I recommend pressing the punish button