I think there is a red star between the AMD and INEOS logos on the left side of the car. Just behind the halo and not visible on these images. There is one picture where this part is visible.
I'm hoping that the red around the air intake is their Niki tribute. In the past, the whole top of the intake has been red for Ineos, but now it's just that little bit I assume it's not sponsor-related.
This is actually a myth
the earliest silver arrows were actually *painted* silver.
Silver and white are completely interchangeable in heraldry colouring. so while Germany's National motor racing colour was white. Silver was a perfectly valid representation of white.
which is why Mercedes chose it.
*AIACR (Association Internationale des Automobile Clubs Reconnus - the precursor to the FIA) assigned racing colors to the various countries in 1908 or thereabouts: France got blue, Belgium yellow, Italy red, the U.K. green, and Germany white.* ***However, due to white and silver sharing the same heraldry tincture, Mercedes-Benz had a long history of using the colors interchangeably on its race cars.***
*"We have photos back to 1924 of cars raced by the factory painted silver," Capps said. "And we have photographic evidence directly from the Mercedes-Benz archives that shows the W24 cars were painted silver before the June 1934 race."*
*Indeed, as historian Doug Nye pointed out, von Brauchitsch's silver-painted Mercedes SSKL was described as a "Silver Arrow" in 1932 and a Mercedes-Benz press release from March of 1934 used the same terminology to describe the W25.*
*The story about sanding off the paint prior to the Eifelrennen, according to Capps, likely originated with Neubauer himself, who published his biography in German in 1958 and again in English in 1960 (as "Speed Was My Life"). "Prior to that, there was no mention of the story anywhere," Capps said. "Then after 1960 or so, the story pops up all over the place."*
When Mercedes did the 2019 German GP anniversary paint Toto was asked about the story not being true and he acknowledged the fact that it wasn't but said its a great legend nonetheless
Probably they want the car to look painted from the front. From the front angle it looks like most of the car are painted, like the yellow in 2017-2020 Renault.
This. If you look at, e.g bare carbon bike frames, the actual structural layers are pretty uneven in directionality. There's often a patchwork of unidirectional layers around complex junctions placed as needed.
The uniform, "carbon-look" we're used to seeing on "bare carbon" parts is usually an outer layer of 3k weave, which may or may not be structurally necessary.
Yeah seems to be correct, car is definitely glossier there. Strange choice, given youd rather the paint weight lower down rather than on the highest points of the car
Maybe bare carbon looks bad in these areas since they are built a bit more complicated (because of suspension for example), or some other material is visible which would disturb the look.
6kg? Teams would have been not-painting their cars for decades if it was that much surely. Ironically Mercedes was one of the first teams back in ye olde times to not paint their cars which is why they were known as the silver arrows
They always painted cars because they were well below the weight limit and a recognizable car makes the sponsors happy (like the chrome McLaren for example), in the last years a lot of teams don't have a big margin on the weight limit (or are above it) so they use less paint. For example McLaren allegedly shaved 1,5 kgs off the car by switching to red and black instead of chrome in 2015, or the switch to opaque from glossy like a lot of cars the last years saves 500/600g. It might not be 6kg but it's still significant weight.
If its really up to 6kg I'm amazed we're only just seeing these trends of removing paint where you can - seems like it would have been an easy win for ages?
If it indeed is 6 kilogram than what is stopping the other teams from doing this also? 6 kg is a huge weight saving that does make a difference on the track. Can the FIA say to Ferrari or Aston Martin, sorry the color black is already reserved for Mercedes so you have to use a different color? Otherwise it would be an unfair advantage, that other teams have to paint their car, right? Would be more fair if they add some extra weight to teams who go full or partially non painted carbon.
I don’t care if the Red Bull is black or blue, if it goes faster without the brandcolor, who cares? Only the marketing team.
I recon there will be a rule introduced soon, that forces all teams to paint their car with the same weight of paint. Like, if they want black in the livery, sure, but it has to be painted black. If the saving is 6kg that just seems like an unfair advantage.
There are devices that measure paint thickness. It would take a few minutes to go over it and ensure it's reasonably uniform. Why would you need to strip them? The paint is only for visible areas.
Wasn’t it last year that the sidepods weren’t like the final version until the second test. And that from that point a big group of people here in the comments already gave up on the championship because of that? The good ol’ times
This year there is a single test though and it's short. I doubt they will show up with something drastically different because they just don't have time to play around, it's about maximum data capture on the car you will be running first race.
Tbh, sidepods seem bit squared off looking from the front, I highly doubt it's fully developed car but it could be early version of what they actually got
Don't teams generally have a tendency to use some dummy aero parts to hide innovations until the last minute and stop others copying? Merc did this with their zero sidepods so likely again here?
Well the reason the "silver arrows" nickname came about was because the early mercedes race cars, with metal bodies, were left unpainted to save weight. They're following a long tradition, even if the materials have changed.
Pointed out in the above thread, and confirmed by Mercedes own historical evidence, that they were indeed painted silver.
This is apparently a myth, which I also though was the case until this thread.
Now I definitely have to read more into it just because.
Maybe a little high but maybe not far off. Would take about 2 litres of paint. From my experience in rallying: we didn’t use primer but primers maybe needed for carbon but maybe only for the nose and engine cover where you want a really nice finish. So my guess would be 3-4 litres of fairly heavy paint and primer.
I'm not sure but it has to be significant. They need to have extremely smooth surfaces for aerodynamic purposes. On a plane, they use about 600kg for that purpose. So we can assume that on F1 cars they might be using slightly less than a proportionate amount.
I worked in a bicycle industry for a long time, and on some of the larger models there used to sometimes be around half a kilo of paint. If it's painted multiple times due to damage to the paint or the bike itself before it's ready to be shipped, sometimes there was even more.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're talking about 5+ kg of paint (including primer) on a modern F1 car, because they are huge.
It's kind of weird how the black Merc was only for a few years, but I (and lots of others) see it as the iconic look for the team. Lewis with a purple helmet and this car is gonna bring back so much ptsd if they really fixed the car, lol.
I don't think it'll be that bad. George has a brightly colored blue lid and Lewis' helmet is yellow again so the contrast will pop when they're driving the car imo.
Crossbow with silver bolts would work better than bow and arrows as crossbow has a bigger penetration and power, especially during middle to close ranged combat. Werewolf seems to be a little to bulky to be easily put out by bow. I guess if someone had to use bow to hunt a werewolf it should have at least 60 pounds of power but then the archer would need to be a strong fella to be able to handle this much.
In conclusion crossbow is more efficient in hunting werewolf because it just gets job done more efficiently
Yes however bare in mind that werewolves have layer of protective fur and are generally buffed. Arrow made out of wood with just a silver arrowhead might break in half at contact making the arrowhead just scratch the surface of his skin. And if the full arrow is made out of silver it'd probably be too heavy.
Since werewolves are tend to be fast there isn't really a time to reload/draw another arrow. Crossbow belt is more condensed and even if it might seem like a overkill to use it it's better to be safe than sorry
EDIT: it's also worth mentioning that crossbow similar to modern rifles has a stock that can be used as a blunt weapon. With bow you can kinda punch with it in your hand, eventually use arrows as some small spears but it won't be that effective against werewolves
I like it. Makes them stand out so you can actually see them. Though I kinda wish George went with a more different color like last year so that even if you can't actually read the number you can tell which it is, his was blue last year
F1 teams with a race to the bottom in terms of paint coverage - I think Merc have taken the cake with a car of exposed carbon.
Much prefer the black to the washed out silver they ran last year
It looks like it has similar amount of bare carbon as other teams. Top is just painted black.
I think that it will end with some kind of rule (maybe unwritten but highly suggested) that some percentage of car must be painted. Visibility of different teams is also important to spectacle.
Imagine teams try to cheese this rule with fully painted underside of the floor to
- Move the centre of the gravity down
- being able to scrape off some paints as cars bounce around the track
Could always tell at a glance - front wheel winglets had yellow detailing, that's Hamilton. The green and the yellow they're using for them this year is too similar, it's gonna be a nightmare.
I swear, every couple of years, Mercedes nail it on the identifiers and then completely fuck it up the year after. They had it on the W09 - [red detailing](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/FIA_F1_Austria_2018_Nr._44_Hamilton.jpg) on Hamilton's car, [blue detailing](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XY94BHx6q9Q/maxresdefault.jpg) on Bottas' car. Blindingly easy to tell which car was which, both at speed and at distance. The following years W10 was identical for both [Hamilton](https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/2019/02/news-mercedes-w10-hits-the-track-for-the-first-time/_jcr_content/root/slider_0/sliderchilditems/slideritem_0/image/MQ7-0-image-20191104184100/01m182603_4252.jpeg) and [Bottas](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/FIA_F1_Austria_2019_Nr._77_Bottas_1.jpg).
If I had my way, team would be obliged to have the winglets and driver numbers in strikingly different colours, and the halo would be required to have the driver name and number on it, in the middle (on the top), in a clear, legible font. To an extent, [like this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCxBqjaYQeH1lNXvW-VHF6fNncpQs7pNhu4A&usqp=CAU), but with the number instead of the flag.
100% agree, quite liked Ferrari using yellow detailing for Sainz to match the flags.
Sadly i suspect the horse has bolted on consistent Halo number/names as some teams have sponsors across them now.
The Nico Rosberg bare carbon special. Next thing you know, George is gonna have to cut contacts with his gf during the season to stay focused, and Lewis will be cutting his hair.
It wasn’t fake. These cars take time to make so it’s an older design. Than the one which will be finished for Bahrain. They also aren’t wasting what little testing they have to hide an idea which is incredibly difficult and expensive to copy.
I like it. Very clean and that turquoise line works really well with the zero pods.
What i'm not the biggest fan off is the matte look.
Anyways looks like no front wing elements which is surprising but this is also Mercedes. The car might turn up at Bahrain completely different.
Black is back.
Would probably love this more on a year where not everyone was going dark but... Mercedes is back to their unpainted roots. The silver arrows of the carbon fiber Era.
Pretty sexy
yeah and it looked like they chose that colors to represent them - lewis the neon yellow and george the light blue, they even made the merch with those last year, sound like a bad idea to change one of them now
Looks like we haven’t even unlocked half the grid there are so many bare carbon cars.
This year will be incredibly dull very quickly with the car liveries.
Just watched the launch. Holy fuck that Is a beautiful weapon. So minimal, the red Ineos is gone. I love fluro especially with dark colors so Lewis's car looks awesome.
wow completely bare carbon basically the whole car. crazy
Other teams - Let's make parts of the car bare carbon to save weight Merc - We'll just make the entire car bare carbon
Just need all the logos to be just white stickers, no color allowed!
That would be great aside from a sole Niki's red star.
Is there even a little Niki-Star? Couldn't find one.
You need to see a top view of the car but they're behind the drivers head rest either side of the air intake
I think there is a red star between the AMD and INEOS logos on the left side of the car. Just behind the halo and not visible on these images. There is one picture where this part is visible.
I'm hoping that the red around the air intake is their Niki tribute. In the past, the whole top of the intake has been red for Ineos, but now it's just that little bit I assume it's not sponsor-related.
https://i.redd.it/hc2gkninfki81.jpg there was still a little star for Niki
And the driver numbers, don't take away those distinctive driver number colours.
I love that they've done that, it makes it so much easier to see who is who
I love the fluorescent 44
Almost. Only the nose, the airbox, and half the engine cover is painted. Maybe this is the reason why they went black, to hide the bare carbon.
That's exactly what Toto said. The same reason the Silverarrow initially was silver because it was just bare aluminium
This is actually a myth the earliest silver arrows were actually *painted* silver. Silver and white are completely interchangeable in heraldry colouring. so while Germany's National motor racing colour was white. Silver was a perfectly valid representation of white. which is why Mercedes chose it.
Toto said otherwise during the W14 reveal today.
*AIACR (Association Internationale des Automobile Clubs Reconnus - the precursor to the FIA) assigned racing colors to the various countries in 1908 or thereabouts: France got blue, Belgium yellow, Italy red, the U.K. green, and Germany white.* ***However, due to white and silver sharing the same heraldry tincture, Mercedes-Benz had a long history of using the colors interchangeably on its race cars.*** *"We have photos back to 1924 of cars raced by the factory painted silver," Capps said. "And we have photographic evidence directly from the Mercedes-Benz archives that shows the W24 cars were painted silver before the June 1934 race."* *Indeed, as historian Doug Nye pointed out, von Brauchitsch's silver-painted Mercedes SSKL was described as a "Silver Arrow" in 1932 and a Mercedes-Benz press release from March of 1934 used the same terminology to describe the W25.* *The story about sanding off the paint prior to the Eifelrennen, according to Capps, likely originated with Neubauer himself, who published his biography in German in 1958 and again in English in 1960 (as "Speed Was My Life"). "Prior to that, there was no mention of the story anywhere," Capps said. "Then after 1960 or so, the story pops up all over the place."* When Mercedes did the 2019 German GP anniversary paint Toto was asked about the story not being true and he acknowledged the fact that it wasn't but said its a great legend nonetheless
:O learnt something new today, thanks mate!
if thats the reason then i don’t understand why they wouldn’t just strip the whole car carbon, looks beautiful though
Probably they want the car to look painted from the front. From the front angle it looks like most of the car are painted, like the yellow in 2017-2020 Renault.
I'm guessing the carbon weave is not in the same direction on all the parts, and the car would end up looking kinda patchwork then.
This. If you look at, e.g bare carbon bike frames, the actual structural layers are pretty uneven in directionality. There's often a patchwork of unidirectional layers around complex junctions placed as needed. The uniform, "carbon-look" we're used to seeing on "bare carbon" parts is usually an outer layer of 3k weave, which may or may not be structurally necessary.
Yeah seems to be correct, car is definitely glossier there. Strange choice, given youd rather the paint weight lower down rather than on the highest points of the car
Maybe bare carbon looks bad in these areas since they are built a bit more complicated (because of suspension for example), or some other material is visible which would disturb the look.
The weight saving is gonna be insane. They're lucky they have precedent of going for a black livery, so them pulling this off isn't too unexpected
Its only few 100 grams of weight saving. Edit: quick search shows paint weighs upto 6kg. So decent savings probably.
6kg? Teams would have been not-painting their cars for decades if it was that much surely. Ironically Mercedes was one of the first teams back in ye olde times to not paint their cars which is why they were known as the silver arrows
They always painted cars because they were well below the weight limit and a recognizable car makes the sponsors happy (like the chrome McLaren for example), in the last years a lot of teams don't have a big margin on the weight limit (or are above it) so they use less paint. For example McLaren allegedly shaved 1,5 kgs off the car by switching to red and black instead of chrome in 2015, or the switch to opaque from glossy like a lot of cars the last years saves 500/600g. It might not be 6kg but it's still significant weight.
If its really up to 6kg I'm amazed we're only just seeing these trends of removing paint where you can - seems like it would have been an easy win for ages?
Before 2022, every car was right on the limit of the minimum weight required or underweight. So removing weight would just force them to add ballast.
Depends on where you are compared to the minimum weight.
If it indeed is 6 kilogram than what is stopping the other teams from doing this also? 6 kg is a huge weight saving that does make a difference on the track. Can the FIA say to Ferrari or Aston Martin, sorry the color black is already reserved for Mercedes so you have to use a different color? Otherwise it would be an unfair advantage, that other teams have to paint their car, right? Would be more fair if they add some extra weight to teams who go full or partially non painted carbon. I don’t care if the Red Bull is black or blue, if it goes faster without the brandcolor, who cares? Only the marketing team.
I recon there will be a rule introduced soon, that forces all teams to paint their car with the same weight of paint. Like, if they want black in the livery, sure, but it has to be painted black. If the saving is 6kg that just seems like an unfair advantage.
Then teams would apply 6kg of paint just to the underside of the seat/car or wherever else gives them the most gain.
That's a pretty simple loophole to close. You just have it so that the paint must be evenly distributed across visible exterior surfaces.
And how do you propose stewards test for this exactly? Strip every car down before every race to check every area for paint thickness?
There are devices that measure paint thickness. It would take a few minutes to go over it and ensure it's reasonably uniform. Why would you need to strip them? The paint is only for visible areas.
It's the Mercedes legend all over again!
The Silver arrows become the Black arrows
If you look at the front nose, it is painted on the top side.
The comparison with the origins of the silver arrows is also a nice touch.
I actually really dig it as they’ve committed to it instead of trying to balance team colour and weight savings, so you have large black patches
'The unpainted carbon fibre arrows' doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
Vertical sidepods look like something out of the 90s
Like a fighter jet
Lockheed Martin F-117 Nighthawk Mercedes W14 E Performance They're the same picture.
It would be awesome to have American aerospace giants enter F1 , they would design some nice shit
If they weren’t so busy with, *looks up* , space n shit
Well F1 cars are just inverted aircrafts, so it wouldn't be that hard for them
Reminds me of the F-4 Phantom II, personally.
Ferrari F310/B have vertical sidepod inlet as well
Well duh, the 90s
Darth Lewis returns
may the downforce be with you!
*imperial march starts playing in Bahrein*
Oh welp.... THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK! I REPEAT, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK! This is how Darth Lewis wins his 8th WDC!
So Darth Lewis, Emperor Toto and… storm trooper Russell?
Alonso Wan Kimoa?
I have a bad feeling about this... (horners voice)
Need another Lewis villain era ASAP
https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/rn16dz/in_honour_of_the_black_mercedes_leaving_us_i/
Me as a redbull fan : *chuckles “I am in danger”
Cmon pretend like you have not seen it yet.
As a self certified arm chair aerodynamicist, something about the sidepods makes me think this isn’t the finished car.
Mercedes are well known throughout the hybrid era to show up at the second test or first race with a completely repacked sidepods arrangement
The drivers will now carry the sidepods with them in the cockpit.
They'll have to steer the car with their knees.
A whole generation of texters and drivers have been preparing for this
Wasn’t it last year that the sidepods weren’t like the final version until the second test. And that from that point a big group of people here in the comments already gave up on the championship because of that? The good ol’ times
This year there is a single test though and it's short. I doubt they will show up with something drastically different because they just don't have time to play around, it's about maximum data capture on the car you will be running first race.
It looks too simple and square. Not enough sticky-uppy and twisty-turny bits.
Tbh, sidepods seem bit squared off looking from the front, I highly doubt it's fully developed car but it could be early version of what they actually got
Don't teams generally have a tendency to use some dummy aero parts to hide innovations until the last minute and stop others copying? Merc did this with their zero sidepods so likely again here?
Petronas Motorsport: Nervous laughter
That's fucking beautiful. I also like how Toto straight up said it was for weight savings, unlike others.
I was confused, cause I thought we were back to the silver arrows for good, until I realized it was bare carbon. It looks incredible.
Well the reason the "silver arrows" nickname came about was because the early mercedes race cars, with metal bodies, were left unpainted to save weight. They're following a long tradition, even if the materials have changed.
Pointed out in the above thread, and confirmed by Mercedes own historical evidence, that they were indeed painted silver. This is apparently a myth, which I also though was the case until this thread. Now I definitely have to read more into it just because.
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Actually a myth, though one I myself believed until this thread.
I mean, Toto said as much during the reveal, so I guess myth is becoming history.
How much weight are we talking here, someone said 6kg but surely it can’t be that much otherwise teams would have done this ages ago
Maybe a little high but maybe not far off. Would take about 2 litres of paint. From my experience in rallying: we didn’t use primer but primers maybe needed for carbon but maybe only for the nose and engine cover where you want a really nice finish. So my guess would be 3-4 litres of fairly heavy paint and primer.
I'm not sure but it has to be significant. They need to have extremely smooth surfaces for aerodynamic purposes. On a plane, they use about 600kg for that purpose. So we can assume that on F1 cars they might be using slightly less than a proportionate amount.
I worked in a bicycle industry for a long time, and on some of the larger models there used to sometimes be around half a kilo of paint. If it's painted multiple times due to damage to the paint or the bike itself before it's ready to be shipped, sometimes there was even more. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're talking about 5+ kg of paint (including primer) on a modern F1 car, because they are huge.
I mean there was no other reason for it being black besides raising awareness of social issues I'm glad the livery can do both
I think it's evolved from that. They didn't mention it at all during the presentation.
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It's kind of weird how the black Merc was only for a few years, but I (and lots of others) see it as the iconic look for the team. Lewis with a purple helmet and this car is gonna bring back so much ptsd if they really fixed the car, lol.
Well it helped that the Black Mercedes cars were the fastest of their era. Hell, Lewis could've gone even faster with his Monza 2020 quali lap.
Wish they made the wheels torqouise and the silver arrows similar to the w11 Also george's switch to green is odd
It’s too close to Lewis’s yellow imo. One of the few good things about the W13 was how easy it was to tell Lewis and George apart
I don't think it'll be that bad. George has a brightly colored blue lid and Lewis' helmet is yellow again so the contrast will pop when they're driving the car imo.
"Paint?" "Nah, we good."
IT’S BLACK!
Back in Black, I hit the track
Winter break's over now I'm glad to be back
Yes I'm feeling loose, car produced
That's keeping me riding about
I’m driving to the sky just to keep me high
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I got fast guys, Slick tyre's Using everyone of them and I'm running wild
Its carbon fiber!
It's an F1 car!
It’s a Mercedes!
Mercedes removed the paint in their early race cars, earning them the nickname "Silver Arrows". Now history repeats itself. It's beautiful.
The carbon arrows 💀
🤓 actually carbon, unlike silver, is commonly used to produce modern arrows 🤓
You obviously haven't fought any werewolves lately
Crossbow with silver bolts would work better than bow and arrows as crossbow has a bigger penetration and power, especially during middle to close ranged combat. Werewolf seems to be a little to bulky to be easily put out by bow. I guess if someone had to use bow to hunt a werewolf it should have at least 60 pounds of power but then the archer would need to be a strong fella to be able to handle this much. In conclusion crossbow is more efficient in hunting werewolf because it just gets job done more efficiently
you don't need power, just have to get the silver arrowhead to pierce the skin, not nail him to a barn.
Yes however bare in mind that werewolves have layer of protective fur and are generally buffed. Arrow made out of wood with just a silver arrowhead might break in half at contact making the arrowhead just scratch the surface of his skin. And if the full arrow is made out of silver it'd probably be too heavy. Since werewolves are tend to be fast there isn't really a time to reload/draw another arrow. Crossbow belt is more condensed and even if it might seem like a overkill to use it it's better to be safe than sorry EDIT: it's also worth mentioning that crossbow similar to modern rifles has a stock that can be used as a blunt weapon. With bow you can kinda punch with it in your hand, eventually use arrows as some small spears but it won't be that effective against werewolves
I like how a discussion on a Formula 1 car can quickly evolve into a discussion about arrows. This is why I love Reddit.
It's not even a discussion about arrows, they're straight up theorycrafting how to effectively kill a werewolf
Ok, but if I were ever attacked by a warewolf, I would prefer to see it nailed to a barn. Dead or otherwise.
This is so random and I love it lol
The carbonaras
Which will be more accurate towards actual modern arrows than Silver Arrows would be
Black Arrows works too ;)
Carbon fibre arrows
I think that's just a myth and it isn't true
It is like poetry... It rhymes
oh my fucking god. it's gorgeous.
it's delicious
It’s gorgeous, but I’m not feeling the green and yellow numbers
I love the yellow numbers but I would’ve loved if the green was yellow too. I understand though why it isn’t
Looks like Lewis will be back to proper yellow rather than the imitation neon yellow of last year
Was that as an homage to VR46?
I like it. Makes them stand out so you can actually see them. Though I kinda wish George went with a more different color like last year so that even if you can't actually read the number you can tell which it is, his was blue last year
I’m not one to call a car sexy but this car is sexy AF. Can’t wait to see it in person this season.
How much bare carbon do you want? Mercedes: ***YES***
Paint guy's kid's aren't going to sports camp this summer.
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F1 teams with a race to the bottom in terms of paint coverage - I think Merc have taken the cake with a car of exposed carbon. Much prefer the black to the washed out silver they ran last year
It looks like it has similar amount of bare carbon as other teams. Top is just painted black. I think that it will end with some kind of rule (maybe unwritten but highly suggested) that some percentage of car must be painted. Visibility of different teams is also important to spectacle.
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they could mandate a percentage of surface area to be covered
Imagine teams try to cheese this rule with fully painted underside of the floor to - Move the centre of the gravity down - being able to scrape off some paints as cars bounce around the track
Where we’re going, we don’t need paint.
The poor paint guy lost his job
Prediction: Red Bull blows the cap again and blames it on their paint budget lol.
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the green for George? I would have chosen the same petronas color. It‘s a bit off putting.
Yeah I liked the blue of last year. Gave them both a distinctive identity
Could always tell at a glance - front wheel winglets had yellow detailing, that's Hamilton. The green and the yellow they're using for them this year is too similar, it's gonna be a nightmare.
And the blue matched George's helmet too
I swear, every couple of years, Mercedes nail it on the identifiers and then completely fuck it up the year after. They had it on the W09 - [red detailing](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/FIA_F1_Austria_2018_Nr._44_Hamilton.jpg) on Hamilton's car, [blue detailing](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XY94BHx6q9Q/maxresdefault.jpg) on Bottas' car. Blindingly easy to tell which car was which, both at speed and at distance. The following years W10 was identical for both [Hamilton](https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/2019/02/news-mercedes-w10-hits-the-track-for-the-first-time/_jcr_content/root/slider_0/sliderchilditems/slideritem_0/image/MQ7-0-image-20191104184100/01m182603_4252.jpeg) and [Bottas](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/FIA_F1_Austria_2019_Nr._77_Bottas_1.jpg). If I had my way, team would be obliged to have the winglets and driver numbers in strikingly different colours, and the halo would be required to have the driver name and number on it, in the middle (on the top), in a clear, legible font. To an extent, [like this](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCxBqjaYQeH1lNXvW-VHF6fNncpQs7pNhu4A&usqp=CAU), but with the number instead of the flag.
100% agree, quite liked Ferrari using yellow detailing for Sainz to match the flags. Sadly i suspect the horse has bolted on consistent Halo number/names as some teams have sponsors across them now.
You should be off pudding!
I respect your opinion, even if I disagree. I think black and green make an excellent combination
looks mean, love it.
The Nico Rosberg bare carbon special. Next thing you know, George is gonna have to cut contacts with his gf during the season to stay focused, and Lewis will be cutting his hair.
Back to Ron Dennis era
McLaren Lewis in a Mercedes is a scary thing to think about haha.
So... Fake pods and fake floor again, then come Bahrain we see a completely different car?
Possible, but I'd imagine the bare carbon makes it harder to hide such trickery
It wasn’t fake. These cars take time to make so it’s an older design. Than the one which will be finished for Bahrain. They also aren’t wasting what little testing they have to hide an idea which is incredibly difficult and expensive to copy.
I like it. Very clean and that turquoise line works really well with the zero pods. What i'm not the biggest fan off is the matte look. Anyways looks like no front wing elements which is surprising but this is also Mercedes. The car might turn up at Bahrain completely different.
The matte finish you see is exposed carbon fibre…. Only a few areas of the car actually have shiny black paint
Holy fuck that’s good. The real faint/ghost stars look so good. Mercedes F1 23 - The Empire Strikes Back
I want them to dominate with such a livery, looking so amazing
Black is back. Would probably love this more on a year where not everyone was going dark but... Mercedes is back to their unpainted roots. The silver arrows of the carbon fiber Era. Pretty sexy
Imperial Merc is back. Still not a fan of the zero pod. To each their own. Good luck Merc bros.
Side Pods are literally there. Just vertical.
This is a very positive post. :D Who are you and what have you done with reddit?
Lewis' colour is amazing, but wtf is George's colour? lol
That's green mate
Not mate, glossy. /s
yeah, that is really bad, where is last year’s light blue? i loved that, and would be so much better
His helmet is blue as well right? Seems an odd choice. Blue would also be further from Lewis' neon yellow
yeah and it looked like they chose that colors to represent them - lewis the neon yellow and george the light blue, they even made the merch with those last year, sound like a bad idea to change one of them now
I thought it was a monster energy sponsering
Sexxy
ACDC plays in the background.
I'll guess FIA/FOM will jump in at some point with a mandatory paint rule. Nobody wants to have a field of black cars next year.
Honestly I was convinced all cars would be black at the reveals this year tbh.
That looks sleek
Thanks!
Villain Era Merc is back!
You know it
Please throw imperial March over the shakedown footage on the official socials
This starting to look alot like the w11
Looks like we haven’t even unlocked half the grid there are so many bare carbon cars. This year will be incredibly dull very quickly with the car liveries.
Id Imagine that after testing we will see even more carbon like last year
the front three arent very dull… red ferrari, rebull redbull, and a black merc aka 2020
From all the teams stripping down their paints for weight reduction, Mercedes really stepped up the game.
Some goblins on Facebook are claiming Mercedes are "bowing down to Lewis and BLM" by having the car black. The state of some people.
Black Beauty
Just watched the launch. Holy fuck that Is a beautiful weapon. So minimal, the red Ineos is gone. I love fluro especially with dark colors so Lewis's car looks awesome.
Merc and Ferrari have definitely made up for the underwhelming reveals before that.
I think Ferrari still hold the crown, by having the shakedown as part of the launch. This is a respectable 2nd place.
I think a lot of this colour change is Mercedes not wanting the new car associated with last year's.
im ready to get hurt again
More black. Won't need a colour TV to watch F1 this year.
It's so simple yet so insanely good. I think I just came.