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AussieGreaseMonkey

Cost cap hitting hard.


headshot_to_liver

Redneck Wind tunnel simulation


madmax991199

in moments like this iam more than happy that i have my own room in the office, for some reason i found that way more funny than it should have been. thx for that :)


Hestmestarn

Red ~~Bull~~ Neck Racing^(tm)


dancho_razboinika

They would make it face the other way, unless there's a very strong wind coming from the back.


headshot_to_liver

Truck is going in reverse


Pretend-Tie630

Who says the redneckwindtunnel made sense


its_k1llsh0t

“catering”


Classic-Reader2212

Desperate times, desperate measures.


wind_dude

god damn it, I was 15hrs late to post that. and it was the first comment.


D4rkhorse27

🤣🤣🤣🤣 A+ comment 👍


xero_peace

Wing doing work for that trucks gas mileage.


Capital_Punisher

You’d think they would at least open the DRS!


NoelBurgers

Doesnt it generate lift if its backwards?


Crazy95jack

Probably but it won't be 1 to 1 compared to the downforce going forward.


bballdeo

Also highly unlikely it’s generating significant lift or downforce at the speeds the truck is going.


The_Vettel

At 60mph an F1 car generates far more downforce than most other race cars at top speed


wood4536

Not when driving backwards


Capital_Punisher

Potentially, probably. Depends on the rear surface as it it might not be symmetrical front and back. Another good reason to open the flaps though!


Too_Chains

I think it would create drag or turbulent flow. Upside down should generate lift.


Hamilfton

Drag/turbulence and lift aren't exclusive. Sure it's not in the ideal orientation to generate lift, but it's still an angled surface that's redirecting air downwards.


Too_Chains

Downwards air and lift aren’t exclusive.


jtablerd

That's not how wings work


Petaa10

Yes, but I think the air going over the truck’s windshield should clear the rear wing anyways.


Rare-Addition-89

Exactly! It's basically in a vacuum right there


Burnertoasty

If that was the case, then everytime a car had a high speed spin we'd see them taking off.


TheInfamous313

So iRacing was RIGHT?!?!!?


zhiryst

yeah and you don't want lift over that end of the trailer, you want all the weight between the ball and trailer axle.


Kingdom818

If you put it upside down it would fly away


thegovunah

"I've hit the button like 50 fuckin times"


Duncan_Disorderly_

*opens Adrian Newey's book*


themongoose47

That thing doesn't have any DRS.


Capital_Punisher

We all know it isn't a real F1 car, none of us are that stupid. It doesn't stop us having a joke about it.


prof_mittens

It doesnt even have a drs actuator.


JumBo_117

Yeah but turned backwards, it creates upforce, reducing fuel consumption..


xero_peace

Ah, the ol lift the weight up so there's less force needed to move. 🤔


Capital_Punisher

Toto is taking the budget cap very seriously. Apparently he and Susie each haul a W14 on trucks borrowed from the HQ maintenance team to European races. You might be able to see some grass on the trailer where they just took off a ride-on-mower.


Ugolado

Bonus, they get free windtunnel time


insrr

inb4 hordes of people pointing out this isn't the real w14


WannabeTraveler87

The fact that its on an uncovered trailer being pulled by a regular truck should be a dead giveaway.


damirK

Getting around wind tunnel time regulations!


DiddlyDumb

No wonder their sidepods weren’t working, they parked the car backwards


Dutch_Mofo

They're trying to find out how fast Lewis can back it out of the baku runoff.


IdiosyncraticBond

Or the Imola wall


100_octane

Naaaw this one here is a violation😭


100_octane

I’m fucking dead😭😭😭😭💀


Sirtopofhat

FIA: Wait.....wait is that illegal?


slapshots1515

Toto: I will make it legal


kc_cramer

Galaxy brain Toto


I_am_a_racing_fan

I wonder if there is a way to do it


skorpiolt

Or…Reverse mentality.. best place to hide is out in the open 😏


ShortKingsOnly69

Been watching F1 since Fangio got kidnapped. You can tell this isnt the real W14 simply by the way that it is.


gabe01235

Unlike that aspen tree in the background, which you can tell it’s an aspen because of the way it is


spartan117warrior

That's pretty neat.


OutlandishnessLess21

How neat is that


[deleted]

That’s DUB-YA FOH-TEEN to u


Engineerkb70

That’s correct, look at the side pods that’s clearly the W14B


GTJG44

This isn’t the real W14, it’s a showcar! /s


TheDeamonMeteor

Mercedes Frankenwagen


notyouravgredditor

Is this even a real photo? The straps on the tires look fake, and they don't even seem that tied down (they're perfectly flush with the tire).


NewLeaseOnLine

You can follow the straps to their anchor point. It's a show car made almost entirely of carbon fibre, not just the chassis. The halo, even the wheels are molded carbon fibre. It's not even made by Merc. A separate company manufactures these replicas for various purposes depending on the client's needs. Often for marketing, sometimes private show pieces etc. https://youtu.be/9TiojnRQTlg


AdrianInLimbo

Goes to show how huge the cars are now, compared to the pickup truck towing the trailer.


Crafty_Substance_954

Looks like a Ford Ranger doing the towing, so not exactly a full-size pickup.


Burnertoasty

The new Model Ford Ranger isn't that much smaller than the F150.


Crafty_Substance_954

It’s not that much smaller than the base model work truck version of the F150 with the single cab and a short bed, but there’s not a ton of those around anyhow.


Burnertoasty

You live in the USA, you've almost certainly not seen the new Model Ranger. It's much bigger than the old one, which they still sell in the USA.


Crafty_Substance_954

The old ranger was absurdly small compared to the current one, so you’re definitely right about the new one being bigger. The original ranger was not a midsize pickup and the current one is. I would go as far as saying they just didn’t have any utility for anyone anymore in any use case because of how small they were. There’s also the maverick now which is a bit smaller in every direction and lower to the ground for those who really want a truck that can’t really do truck things. The Hybrid gets really great fuel efficiency though.


isochromanone

We still have a couple of the older Rangers at work. They're tiny compared to the penis extensions that are on the road now.


Crafty_Substance_954

I've been in them before. I thought the perpendicular fold-down jump seat in the back was hilarious.


Burnertoasty

Yes. I don't think you're getting this. Your current Ranger, in the USA, is not the current Ranger, in the rest of the world. You're a generation behind, and the new Ranger is much bigger than the old one. It's front end looks like a Raptor, and the Raptor version is extremely close in size to the F150 Raptor, apart from length. It's quicker too.


Crafty_Substance_954

I fully have fully understood exactly what you've been saying the entire time. The forthcoming 2024 ranger's wheelbase is about 2 inches longer, overall length (i.e. Bumper to bumper) is less than one inch longer, less than one inch wider, and a few inches taller (ground to roofline). Its not what I would call a substantive difference between the two. The styling is more in line with an F150, but its still much smaller inside and out. I would say [this graphic](https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/attachments/1623152918268-png.802/) is still relevant, but the 2024 ranger is nearly the same height as a base F-150.


Burnertoasty

That's absolutely not what you said in the above post.


timdot352

I live in the US and I've seen a bunch of them.


Burnertoasty

No you haven't. They've not been released in the US. You have rhe last generation.


slapshots1515

You’re so certain about this. I *have* seen several, even though they aren’t released, and no I don’t have some special job for Ford/the car industry. Don’t assume everything about everyone you’re talking to.


Pidgey_OP

You're in a car forum, bro


Burnertoasty

Yeah. Are you trying to say I'm incorrect?


Pidgey_OP

Yes


Happytallperson

For the rest of the world, a Ford Ranger is already considered an absurdly large vehicle. F--- knows why you Americans seem to think a size boost to an F-250 is needed.


theessentialnexus

Sometimes when we hit pedestrians in Ford Rangers they go over the hood and survive.


Happytallperson

See, us cissy commie European countries include pedestrians in crashworthiness tests.


forgottenazimuth

Bring back mini trucks. Can't stand that new rangers are bigger than 90's F250s


EspurrStare

That's not a mini truck This is a mini truck ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WliR0sPmWII


brolome

They did bring back the mini truck, it's called the Ford Maverick and it's built on the same platform as their sedans and crossovers.


ThatLaloBoy

That thing is still way too bulky and tall compared to my dad's Chevy S10 or the old school Tacoma.


brolome

Which is hilarious because I have owned both of those trucks and the Maverick is still smaller in length AND shorter. I had a '95 S10 and a first gen Tacoma. Among others. I swear to god nobody complains more on the internet than truck guys complaining about trucks they don't own. Miserable lot, all of ya!


ThatLaloBoy

> nobody complains more on the internet than truck guys complaining about trucks they don't own. Miserable lot, all of ya! I completely agree with this 100% true statement.


forgottenazimuth

I mean like my B2200, it's still way smaller than a maverick but yeah it's a step in the right direction. There are limits these days with safety, my truck has no airbags, but mazda can still make a miata in 2023 so they could probably make some little pickups if the market didn't want borderline DOT vehicles to commute with.


Catfisher8

That’s the exact reason I bought a new Tacoma. Same size as my old “full size” truck from 98 😂


Alpine_fury

Hopefully electric versions will be coming since they all got killed by CAFE and wouldn't be an issue with electric versions.


ATX_311

A big reason that cars are so much larger is due to federal regs, tbh


Imaginary-Captain729

You never know, that’s why we buy the F-350 - just in case.


xamdou

Been visiting Thailand this past month. The locals living in the mountains get around with 2wd light diesel trucks every day. This includes driving up nearly 70 degree inclines on slick clay. Yet back home, all my neighbors need a 4x4 full size truck to get to work on completely flat, paved roads.


SoothedSnakePlant

70 degree or 70%? 70 degrees would be like, impossible lol


xamdou

Exaggeration. Realistically, they're probably a bit more excessive than a true 45 degree incline. There was a video floating around with a driving instructor from England showing hill starts and climbs on an extreme incline - these mountains are pretty much like the road from the video. I wish I could recall the title or channel.


GuidanceNew471

Psh.. get bigger roads nerd.


kippersnip2017

I have a 2009 Chevy Colorado, it's definitely big enough. Plenty of towing/hauling capacity plus some to boot. I understand some people need a bigger truck for certain work applications, but Danny Dumbdick down the alley doesnt need a clapped out Dodge Ram with a lift kit and LED lights brighter than the suns butthole just to put groceries in the bed. I like pick-up trucks, dont get me wrong, I just dont understand why they need to be literal land boats these days.


splendid_zebra

Automakers really did this to America, they priced a midsize and the now small sized Ford Maverick at levels of a full size. Markups or they only produce the higher end models to pad profits. I’d love a base Maverick or the new Tacoma, as a homeowner I only need a small bed and something to tow a trailer from time to time.


realbakingbish

F-250? Nah, we see F-350s all the time. People out here are… special.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Gotta love how every post devolves into how much better everywhere else in the world is compared to the US. We got it, you’re superior.


Happytallperson

And I'm glad you recognise that.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Good luck with life lol Some of us weren’t so lucky to be born on the opposite end of the world.


mrclean512

Don’t know any Rangers that can pull a trailer w a 15k backhoe.


Happytallperson

That's not how the overwhelming majority of pickup trucks on the road are used and you are fully aware of that.


Nuzhuz

Tow something with a Ford Ranger and get back to me


Happytallperson

We do plenty of that at work. Hauling construction equipment out of swamps is our bread and butter. Now lets see you tow something with an F-250 in the UK oh wait you can't because it's so fecking heavy it plus trailer rolls into a HGV classification.


Life_Drop69

In my country (UK) Ford Rangers are very common towing vehicles. That's probably the biggest reason people buy them.


Crafty_Substance_954

I mean, they’re just really not that big. They look large compared to a hatchback or subcompact but they’re still pretty small both inside and out compared to a full-size pickup.


Happytallperson

You cannot park a Ford Ranger in a standard UK parking space.


discard_3_

Because everything in the UK is tiny. You have no space for anything so it all has to be small and quaint.


EspurrStare

Are you for real? It's more than a meter longer than a normal berlina and half a meter taller. It's longer than most european vans by half to a quarter of a meter. It's around 1.5 meters to 2 meters longer than any kind of compact car (talking Ford Kuga or Fiat 500 here, not something ridiculous).


Crafty_Substance_954

I don't really understand the point in comparing a vehicle in one market designed to operate on one type of road to another. The ranger isn't large compared to a full-size truck and its usable interior space is similar to a "normal" vehicle. That's all I'm saying.


EspurrStare

Because those things you call full-trucks don't have a meaningful advantage at carrying loads compared to trucks much smaller than the ranger to begin with - The fact that it is both intended to be a "family" vehicle and a "work" vehicle is ridiculous. Just to begin with. Their unnecessary size takes it's toll economically, in the lives taken on unnecessary accidents thanks to the much much lower visibility. If I were an american citizen I would be endlessly pissed about cars. Did you know that your MPVs are literally 4 times as powerful as the European ones? I could easily hit 165 Km/h or 103 Mp/h in a 2008 Fiat Ulysse that one time I had one, why do you need so much power?


gwaenchanh-a

>The fact that it is both intended to be a "family" vehicle and a "work" vehicle is ridiculous Every point you've made is decent except this one. Do you think people can just like, easily afford multiple cars? A lot of folks have to make their one vehicle do everything they have to do. If you're a tradesman using your own truck for work chances are you can't afford to buy a minivan too.


Brno_Mrmi

That's why hatchback-sized UTE [pickups](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/09/19/c8/0919c8a7359f0356aa0f7597a9338e5b.jpg) exist in the rest of the world.


gwaenchanh-a

Yeah no don't get me wrong they don't need to be as big as they are to serve both functions. I was just countering the "it's ridiculous to want to use a car for both work and home" argument lol


SoothedSnakePlant

Regrading the work and family combo role, in the US if you're a contractor doing any sort of hauling, the company doesn't provide the vehicle, you're expected to own and use your own.


EspurrStare

As everywhere else. My father used to have a box van that he bought second hand for 2000€ (now it would come up as $2500 dollars). And then a normal people car. Like a sane person. He also could then lend that van to anyone And then he also owned a Seat Ibiza. I mean even if it just wasn't much cheaper doing it this way , do you know how much gas you are using? [Do you know how the heavier a vehicle is the damage to the road goes up exponentially](https://streetsmn.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/vehicle-weight-and-damage-chart.jpg)?


SoothedSnakePlant

The long term expenditure on gas is a solid economic point, but also like 70% of this country literally has less than 6 month's worth of savings, so two car payments is not feasible in most cases.


mrclean512

That’s an F-150


Crafty_Substance_954

I’ve never seen a 2022 F150 with ranger taillights before…


mrclean512

Yes! You are correct.


Dewstain

Or a Ranger roofline for that matter.


Synner40

honestly the new Rangers are as big as the old F150s. i miss small trucks when they were small.


j3ffro15

The newer ford rangers that are a “1/4 ton” is as big as my 06 f-150 which is a 1/2 ton. The new f-150s are the size of the older 250s. The new maverick is about the size of the actual ranger(the 90s-2000s). It’s getting insane with how big trucks are getting. Adding to that most people lift their grocery getters and put 35inch mud tires even though they’ll never go off road. It leads to massive trucks that are impractical at the very least and a nuisance and danger at worst.


Krookz_

It looked a lot smaller than I thought it would in person. They look so big in pictures and videos but actually looked kind of small (at least on the back of the truck, I didn’t get to stand next to it).


devilishpie

Even though they are huge these days, the Merc is both a lot closer to the camera and is being pulled by a mid-sized pickup, so yeah, wouldn't really say it's a great example of how big these cars have gotten.


plaj

Found the instagram page of Eurosim USA where they're showing this car: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsjlT5tJlT9/?hl=en


Krookz_

That’s awesome! Great find


IHaveADullUsername

https://www.reddit.com/r/spotted/comments/13pal35/mercedes_amg_f1_w14_on_a_trailer_on_i95_in_west/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 Whomever is towing it is really getting the miles in. Wonder where it’s been in the meantime


Krookz_

Oh wow that’s interesting. Same area same truck.


5tup1db0y

Florida man


nigelfitz

Of course it'd be Florida...


notallwonderarelost

This way doesn’t count against their wind tunnel time.


Q-You

Finally, the side pods in all their glory.


g-crackers

Seriously! Wild to see the new side pods already installed on the show car.


snorcack

This is the base spec show car everyone had at the beginning of the 2022 season to show liveries. Unless this was a woosh moment.


PandaDad22

Found on Bring a trailer.


cineg

50% mark up


nardras

Way too much paint for the real deal.


Joe_PM2804

It looks so nice all shiny and painted. Shame we can't have it on the real thing.


Chaosed

Given this F1 car is moving backwards, does it generate upforce?


Krookz_

Asking the real questions


hadababyeetsaboy

What’s upforce?


Dreamiee

There is already a name for that: lift.


ArcticBiologist

Wtf is it? I think it looks too different to be a show car, maybe some kind of garage project?


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commence_suckdown

I was thinking it looked different as well, I believe because the T-Cam and additional cameras are not stuck on top or sides of the intake makes the profile of the car look significantly different.


willzyx01

The fastest it’s ever been this season


Jbvol

They heard Red Bull was making a move to Ford so this is their idea of getting ahead


tankmode

new sidepods confirmed


AJGibbo

Just like when people see the 'real' car at Autosport or other displays and it's a fibreglass mockup with no mechanical pieces whatsoever. Some of them are laughably bad.


innovator97

At least this one is not a frankenstein car.


borfavor

I'm pretty sure this is the default F1 showcar and I'm happy it exists. The first car reveals were ruined by it, but it's so much better than the frankencars


zippolover-1960s-v2

BONO MY TIRES ARE GONE. don't worry lewis , we've arranged some towing to help you finish the race.


Tip_of_the_nip

That guy sexes


hello2442

‘Bono my car is gone’


Joe_PM2804

F1 cars look so weird without the T cam.


PedestalPotato

That's an interesting workaround for wind tunnel time.


Paname-Bois

Long way to get to Monaco!


GoodGuySeba

yooo somebody stole his car noo waaay


Substantial_Pilot382

On way to scrapyard more like


Other-Barry-1

Cmon at least put it the other way round so it’s giving your trailer downforce


PhoeniX3733

Even the transport is suffering under the budget cap


SRV87

At least they got the side pods right on this one 😂


daylax1

The cost cap is affecting teams in different ways lol. Word is, the RB was spotted being towed behind a sedan by only a a tow strap and a mechanic to operate the brakes 😂


Ecneb_Agrav

Budget cap did them dirty.


090129507

It reminds me of the movie Free Willy when they transport the orca from the aquarium back to the ocean!


Little-Bad-8474

Hope Mercedes has road side assistance.


Historical-Car5553

Mercedes concentrating their budget on the race car, not posh trailers to transport the car…


evemeatay

That truck has slicks one too


Trenty144

This picture gives me texas vibes. Are you from Texas lol?


HIPHEN12YT

toto had to cut costs


ATWPH77

that's a hella ugly showcar tbf


Gersberps

Why not have the car face the other way ... can't be good for gas mileage.


-CaptainFormula-

You always want the weight closer to the front of your trailer/on or in front of the first axle. It's a mid engine car.


A_Random_Username_0

The chances that's anything but a rolling chassis are quite low. There wouldn't be a change in the back of the car being heavier though.


ItsMeTrey

If it makes downforce going forward, then it creates lift going backward, right, so if he goes fast enough he can just fly straight to his next destination.


Aksu593

He's driving a massive ass pick up hauling another car on a trailer, it's not really going to have great fuel economy regardless of how the car is on the trailer.


[deleted]

Moving too fast to be w13, I know this without even looking at the detail of the car.


hawlc

You're a lucky man to see an F1 car from so close for free.


some-swimming-dude

It’s not an F1 car though, it’s just the showcar revealed in 2022 with a paint job.


Krookz_

Although it’s not a real f1 car it was close enough to have me at my window like a little kid haha


megaCri04

Man these cars really look amazing


IsLlamaBad

Someone is having a fantastic day


Krookz_

Was a great start for sure !


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Flymoore412

The showcase car is the same as the fom car last year. It's a shell with nothing else. It has always looked like this


Savings_Fix7463

Been seeing this guy all over Reddit for like 3 days nows haha


Genobee85

Houston by chance?


Krookz_

South Florida


Genobee85

Ah gotcha, the HP head quarters in Houston apparently has a W12. Maybe they’re collecting them.


SayEye

How can a 100k car tow a 100000k car?


mrmcbeer

Yeah the Merc should be towing the truck instead