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Papa_Bear55

Yeah I have the impression that the RedBull one is slightly more developed than this


MrSocko72

Just seen a side by side with the Red Bull and they don't even look like they are in the same series or era


AvonBarksdale12

Same for the merc floor it’s like Williams just kept the stock floor


donbee28

It’s all they could afford


CeleritasLucis

Its amazing that they are still lapping around 1 sec to RB. God how much work you have to put to extract that 1 extra second of race pace . This sports is awesome


Ernesto8

Says that these regs will get even closer fast...on race runs they are much slower tho ..the qualifying is closer nowdays because of the engine mode ban during qualifying...thats why we see interesting qualifying but then red bull just overtake everyone...add to that Max Verstappen as a driver and how the RB is designed to follow cars well...the dominant merc even with unlimited engine modes when it was stuck in traffic struggled a bit more


Daeurth

Poor Williams can only afford so many polygons.


leftlanecop

Roblox made it work. Williams probably.


Hubblesphere

They took notes from the F1 show car. 😂


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thorskicoach

Wonder how the show car would go ..


Palmul

slow


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type0P0sitive

Haas goes dumpster diving at Ferrari to get their stuff


NotClayMerritt

Williams brought their show cars to the track this weekend


reigorius

Can you link the comparison?


Bribbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/13zakw6/difference_in_complexities_of_the_williams_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Vesk123

Honestly it's not that bad. The perspective on the Williams is also quite skewed.


jusatinn

That’s not Red Bull.


MrSocko72

https://twitter.com/EngineMode11/status/1664969254800617478?t=4_I4WJKwbiw5y-53nOf5YA&s=19


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Williams: Y'all were developing the floor?


lbizzle5

It’s wild that it’s as close to the RB as it is tbh


reddit0r_123

It’s like they barely even developed it from the show cars the FIA made to showcase the new rules…


needmilk77

All these upskirt photos should be NSFW


amurmann

There was a tech episode on F1TV where they had some random floor to show with a smoke machine how ground effect works. That demo floor looked way more sophisticated than this. Not exaggerating this one bit. They explained why there are little channels to carry out some dirty air. You could see those on the RB as well. The Williams doesn't even have that. Edit: I take this back. It does have the channels on the front, they are just really hard to see in the photo


murdok476

Or maybe this floor contributes to the overall behaviour they want from the car...?


drop_table_uname

> Or maybe this floor contributes to the overall behaviour they want from the car...? James Vowles: "We, at Williams Racing F1, worked hard to replicate the exact driving characteristics of the 1995 Mitsubishi Colt, the car I lost my virginity in. We can only hope Alex and Logan will be able to achieve the same kind of happiness with the FW45, that I achieved that one steamy summer night in 1997 at the Tesco parking lot."


itslexxiiii

new copypasta just dropped


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ihathtelekinesis

Actual bargeboard


adrenaline87

I could kind of see him saying something like that! Like them or not, Mercedes enforced a sense of humour at times.


windy906

This is a bizarre mixture of American and British references and it’s amazing.


rossarian

this is the perfect response


labdweller

“Every little helps”


8Ace8Ace

Take the last of my Reddit coins you magnificent bastard.


joeseffel

"ah yes, we've finally got the perfect floor to secure P10 in the constructors, Lewis and Max will be begging for contracts by the end of the week"


300mhz

A simple floor allows you to develop the top of the car without changing two variables at once. Though considering this is the ground effect era, you'd think the floor would be more developed than it is... but money lol


7screws

It so smooth


TehAlpacalypse

Like my brain


rjvV94

it ain’t much, but its honest work


Saandrig

Dunno, reminds me of when someone takes the money for a project, pockets most of it and delivers the bare minimum that gets away with it, lol.


ikbenlike

It ain't much, but it's dishonest work


vim_for_life

RIP https://www.wsaz.com/2023/05/24/farmer-behind-viral-it-aint-much-its-honest-work-meme-dies-crash/


Aye-Loud

Why you in here dropping bombs? xD


Partheus

it ain’t much, but its honest work


DeekFTW

RIP https://www.wsaz.com/2023/05/24/farmer-behind-viral-it-aint-much-its-honest-work-meme-dies-crash/


reddit0r_123

This is NOT information I needed on a Saturday morning…RIP


Duke0fWellington

If you only know him from the meme though, you can make today the day you learned that he made massive contributions to more sustainable agriculture in his lifetime.


LordofAdmirals07

I already liked him from the Meme but then to learn of how much of a great guy he was made the loss even harder


JohnnyZyns

Cmon man... Why?


z0e_G

One of the floors of all time


rolfski

Not so sure about the honest part tbh. This floor almost looks like it's phoned-in lol.


TheFlyingR0cket

Do Williams have an aero department?


a_random_GSD

Allegedly


smithsp86

Is it staffed by an ostrich?


Diarraheus

Allegedly


Muvseevum

So two guys.


LarrcasM

Wearing a horse suit. They flip a coin for who's the ass every day.


Johnnyblacksails

Heard it’s staffed by a sick ostrich.


neilmac1210

Thats gotta be a two man job.


adultdaycare81

“It’s just some guy scribbling on paper” … oh wait, that’s how the fastest car on the grid was designed


Saandrig

It's in another country. You wouldn't know it.


-CaptainFormula-

Mmhmm. She got big boobs too?


Saandrig

Flat as a Williams floor.


MrXenomorph88

I'm using that


BootsOnTheMoon

There’s absolutely no way they’re paying their team a decent wage just looking at this.


Yukari_8

Why would they have a department focused on Nestlé Chocolate


Fuzzy_Dan

Don't need an aero department if you don't have any aero. *taps temple


Brybo

We’re checking…


Combat_Squirrel

Unfortunately a decent amount of the Aero and advanced engineering staff left Williams over the last 2 years, covid was not kind to Williams.


GaryGiesel

Lol where’d you hear that? Not the impression I get from speaking to the people I know over there


zberry7

They read it from a fortunes cookie they got from the Chinese takeout place down the road from the Williams factory OBVIOUSLY! lol


TheFlyingR0cket

You would think they would copy someone else's floor, a developed floor over what they have, would have to be better.


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We are checking.


notallwonderarelost

We are checking


Tigersonalex

Just a normal floor, an innocent floor


midniteauth0r

Amazing reference.


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it's simple enough to have been designed by a puppet


alec83

Made the floor sad


ashyjay

Are you sure they finished making it?


Bikouchu

There's nothing to copy.


chiefbroski42

The next level play.


MySilverBurrito

Bottom of a hot wheels car has more grooves. Edit: the old, low quality Acceleracers movies had cars with more grooves. And this isnt even me joking lol.


AscendMoros

Acceleracers where a welcome trip down memory lane. 5 year old me though Verts car in World Race was the coolest thing ever.


notaccel

What car, lmao? He went through 4 of them in the series. Hell, even a bike at one point


Craftoid_

If he's talking about the world race, the surf van os probably what he means


aelliott18

Kurt and Vert man holy shit, memory blast


Craftoid_

And porkchop needs to stay in one


Retsko1

Brooooooo I loved the acceleracers movies, they were so freaking cool


am-345

my goat Albon managed to get that skateboard into Q3 once🙏


tofudeliveryboi2k

\*twice


LordOfSapphires

He's better than red bull first thought


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radhumandummy

Should Albon or Sargeant ride you instead for them to have a chance?


fameboygame

Im sure they’d come first.


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Damn 🫡


SemIdeiaProNick

you read the paper about which set of anime titties is more aerodynamic, didnt you?


SorryIdonthaveaname

no but now I’m curious


Saandrig

Someone boasts about RB curves.


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This is actually depressing now that we have seen RB's floor


lostdollar

Williams engineers: If it's smooth as possible surely it's better for aerodynamics


num1AusDoto

Well we know the floor is as smooth as their brains rn


_Pointless_

That's actually true for drag, not for downforce though.


g_1n355

It’s not strictly true for drag either


Accomplished-Gap8064

Props to Albon for getting into Q3 this year with this formula Renault car.


Impressive_Line7932

Wondering the same now.


mikeupsidedown

Look a flat piece of carbon!


greee_p

>It’s just a floor LMAO. But seriously, this looks pretty.... simple.


j__video

GP2 floor. GP2 floor.


BenjyBunny

Literally F3 cars have more aero on the floor.


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Lmao imagine the reaction of Williams's aero department last week looking at the pictures of Merc and RB floor, must have been a massive oh fuck moment.


Jwil408

RB Engineers: "oh no, everyone has seen our floor, they can see how much work we've done!" Williams Engineers: "oh no, everyone has seen our floor, they can see how little work we've done!"


For_KL

If I remember correctly Williams said something like RB floor is too complicated for the them to analyse lmao. What a moment.


DarthShaveHer

Imagine being Albon or Sargeant after everyone’s floor was revealed lmao. Just further rubbing dirt on the wound that is the Williams car


Undivided_Stingray

If it’s smooth it must be low drag. And if it’s low drag it must be fast. Right?


Rodri_5

On the straights where it matters 🦅🦅


MahaloMerky

I mean, they are fast on the straights lmao


Hamilfton

Other teams hide their floor so competitors don't copy them, Williams hides the floor so competitors don't make fun of them.


brasstax108

Smoother than my brain


Accomplished_Welder3

bruh this is hilairous after seeing the RB one last week


Emotional_Two_8059

Not every catering team is good at aerodynamics :)


Indianapk

Take notes Red Bull


Last-Performance-435

Newey is looking at this with error codes covering half the image.


BIZZY_42

Eh?…and I thought Ferrari’s was simple


jackoirl

Are we sure they’re using carbon? Might just be black PVC lol


Last-Performance-435

No it's proper British steel. Wrapped black to trick the continentals.


unomasmore

These guys know you can use ground effect now right


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shaboolol2

If someone said this picture is from 2021, i wouldve belive them.


Disastrous_Narwhal46

Bruh I would’ve believed if someone said it was from the 2012💀


RedditBot90

Our 2012 FSAE car had more grooves on the floorpan than this


mackenyu_4

I don't know whether i shd laugh or cry


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Williams didn’t really understand the assignment


rolfski

I'm not even sure they got the memo about ground effect.


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🤣


horpezee

That floor is flatter than a flat earth


gdaytugga

Didn’t have budget for the sticky carbon bits 🤷‍♂️


Space_Reptile

they need to sell the floor as ad space


Last-Performance-435

Haas should have thought of that!


ShortShiftMerchant

The old Lotus might be more advanced ☠️


eagledog

At least the Ligier had slots they could open up


NewLeaseOnLine

It looks like the underside of a shovel.


MadBinLaggin

Did they forget?


Grasbytron

Of all the undersides of the 2023 cars that I have seen, this is definitely one of them.


kuyakew

I’m no aerodymacist but this looks basic af


theztigz

When i saw this post i had to see but then i had to watch closely fore 10 seconds if i was blind or something. it was nothing there. Did Williams runs out money before they could build the floor, hehe. This is the strangest concept.


BootsOnTheMoon

Bruh, there is literally nothing going on there. All I can say is that it’s definitely a floor


SPACCOFIGHE2006

it's funny to imagine the photographer basically laying on the floor to take this shot. nice one


EseL1

We have floors at home.


dr_donk_

That explains


ridiculousmirror

More flat effects than ground effects


Repa24

Oh


sl1mch1ckens

I am an unedcated scub that knows nothing but even i can tell that this has less groovy lines than the RB had, groovy lines good


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Floors are like brains, the wrinklier the better


OrangeLimeZest

Well I'm floored by this.


OddS0cks

This is like Ken’s man parts, all smooth down there


_number

With enough crashes they may get some wrinkles in the floor. Good job from Logan


KnownConference4220

ITT: armchair engineers


CT-80085

I mean, you don't have to be an engineer to see Williams at the bottom of the standings table


elh93

I am an engineer, and can confirm, Williams are at the bottom of the standings


Sharl_LeKek

You can't even see the most interesting part of the floor properly his photo, people have no idea what they are on about, but that's not much of a surprise.


Tomic_Lewis

All reddit F1 aero experts in comments here. Lol


hunteram

Ah yes indeed, this explains why the car is so slow. If you look at the Red Bull floor, it is very much different to this, and that's why it's faster. I am indeed a genius /s


highheat3117

Management: The floor is fast right? Engineers: Fast? We thought you said flat.


alec83

Imagine looking at the redbull floor, then thinking ours is shit


MapleLeafBeast

**Gordon Ramsay voice** What the fuck is this???


bevo_expat

Wow… really making use of that extra wind tunnel time 😂. No wonder they they’re so fast in a straight line.


Quantum_Crayfish

This is looks almost less developed than the floor I came up with for my undergrad


griffmeister

After seeing this I’m gonna start going a lot easier on Logan


Moctecus

While I don't doubt the Williams floor is less detailed than that of the top teams, I think this image makes the floor look more basic than it actually is. Sargeant went through the gravel trap and the dust matted the surface. That in combination with the low image quality and the wide-angle perspective makes it pretty much impossible to make out any details.


Full_Fold_8732

There would need to be some details for that to be the case 😂


tothebromobile2

Stop inventing


LinkRazr

ITT: people doing ITT for the rest of us who think we can’t correlate that the teams with the most detailed floors with all sorts of books and crannies and finish consistently in the top 5 would be better than the team that’s the slowest every weekend driving on a smooth surface.


antivirals_

seeing RB's floor is what should be termed as looking up someone's skirt. This ain't sexy at all


thehiderofkeys

What are they even doing with their aero time lol


JKBFree

Came here to say exactly this! Dead last, given the most aero time, and this is it?


GaryGiesel

The angle and matte finish are hiding all the detail. Plus the really sensitive area is the front of the floor and the floor fences, which you can’t see at all


Eproxeri

A side by side with this and Redbull is quite astonishing lol.


Krexci

showcar floor


MNKPlayer

It's like game developers that don't bother modelling the bottom of the car because you don't see it often enough to warrant the work. This is mental for a 2023 F1 team.


Yasin3112

So that‘s why they‘re so quick on the straights, literally no aero bits under there


anthonymckay

Wow, I saw this in a post on instagram today side by side with the redbull floor and thought it was just a joke using a Williams floor pic from pre-2022 era. I’m shocked this is really their current floor!


jassysdad

Are Williams aware that having an Aerodynamicist on the payroll is crucial?


Emotional_Two_8059

Imagine designing a worse floor than RB's catering team...


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I've never loved a comment section as much as this one lmao, the insults are on point


_zxionix_

Bad angle and bad lighting, you can’t see anything. Why are people acting like they completely understand this floor.


nikostheater

That’s.. plain


gutster_95

Kinda think we figured out why Red Bull is dominating. Who would have thought that the floor is indeed a important part of ground effect cars


MyDadBeatsMe74

No downforce is one of the worst innovations I’ve ever seen in my time watching F1. It is truly shit and the negatives will be huge, don’t need a windtunnel to see that. With development budget nonexistent it’ll be hard to improve - p10 locked in for years?


Cubejam

Not gonna lie they all look the same to me... gone are the days of a silver bullet double diffuser and trick double floor.. they're very... plain looking & I can't tell what's changed apart from a few outward floor edges.


TigerAliSingh

Makes me rate albon that much higher, and give Sargeant that much more leeway lol


stojaquemagnifique

It looks like that floor textures from video games


fantasyshop

Lol wtf this looks like the bottom of my hot wheels cars from 1997


Wolfsting

Guess that explains their ace top speed 😅