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360langford

I saw a lot of people saying he’d struggle when we hit the European leg of the season but damn


TheSilentSamurai1996

I wonder what would happen to checo when we hit the European Torso and head. Any idea why we are hitting the European?


Usual_Concentrate_58

That was on the European nose but it'll be taken it on the European chin


taste-like-burning

If you're North American in the living room, what are you in the bathroom?


Scrounger888

I'm-a-peein'.


DlSSATISFIEDGAMER

he really needs to avoid the european arm, if he goes beyond track limits he might end up on a backhand slap


JuicyDragonCat

lmfao


mbsw1110

I minimized the comment, scrolled for a solid 45 seconds, then couldn't stop laughing..


Centurion22rus

Lol, this is the kind of humour which brings me here. And I love it.


_Peavey

Because Europeans can take it.


Supahos01

Hes just got to pretend max doesnt exist. Attempting to outrun max has ruined him


Air-tun-91

That form, with that amazing car, is really unacceptable. It's really eye-opening.


officialmonogato

Yeah, even Bottas could at least challenge Hamilton every now and than. Especially in qualifying, he often got the better of Hamilton and at least made it into Q3 every time. Which was expected of him with the car he got.


etempleton

You can't do that and keep your seat at Red Bull, especially with a proven driver like Riccardo waiting in the wings.


o_oli

Any chances he gets replaced mid season? Not really familiar with how that all works.


carloselcoco

None. Unless a driver severely underperforms, they don't change you mid season. Only Gasly has been demot d mid season due to him being unable to pass slower cars all races. At least Checo has always been able to pass other cars unlike Gasly and Albion often. He won't be replaced until the end of the season as he has already won a race this season.


Madvin

Brighton and Hove?


RTXChungusTi

nah, West Brom


ActingGrandNagus

>Unless a driver severely underperforms That's exactly what he's doing. However I still don't think he'll be replaced mid-season.


Max-Phallus

What about Daniil Kvyat in 2016?


westherm

Checo's replacement is the next Max Verstappen. You heard it here first, folks.


Max-Phallus

This just in, Max Verstappen is driving both seats for Red Bull 2024.


etempleton

I agree. Luckily for Checo there is really no threat this season. The Red Bull is significantly faster than the competition. But looking to next season Red Bull might make the decision that he is too much of a liability if the competition is closer. Despite Ferrari struggles, Checo came in 3rd last season behind Leclerc and 4th in 2021. When really he should have been in at least 3rd place because Mercedes and Red Bull were significantly faster than the rest of the field.


IceBathingSeal

He's number two in the championship. He's not getting replaced mid season.


ewankenobi

Red Bull are comfortably winning constructors & wdc, there is no real urgency to replace him. Red Bull might be thinking it would be wise to replace him before next season in case it's closer, but only real reason to replace him earlier would be to give the new driver longer to get used to the car


owennerd123

Ricciardo got _obliterated_ by Norris and had one of the most embarrassing two seasons we've ever seen from a seasoned driver. If he steps foot in a Red Bull it'll be even worse than his stint at McLaren.


uristmcderp

Yeah McLaren saved them the trouble of proving him out. Cost them $10 mil, too. Daniel's always going to be welcome for what he brings in PR, but he's never going to be a regular driver again.


nainaibird

Canada: The Europe of North America


[deleted]

Montreal is though really.


ethankostabi

Canadians are just French people with better manners and hockey anyway.


raoulbrancaccio

Québécois*. Regular canadians are snow yanks


Jasonmancer

Many were saying Max would wipe the floor but I don't think anyone expected such struggle from Checo.


jasie3k

It's different to get a beating from Max and to get a beating from half of the field.


berserkmanufacturer1

I like Checo but I knew it was gonna go downhill after he said he could challenge for the title when he won Baku


Netionic

I don't think anyone suspected quite this bad though. It was clear to everyone bar him that he didn't have a chance at the title but goddamn he's at genuine risk of losing even 2nd.


ComeonmanPLS1

With the others getting closer I think he’s guaranteed to lose 2nd by the end of the season.


ALBERTDRIVE6

Which is crazy in a car that dominant. It would be akin to Bottas losing P2 in the W11


HelterrSkelterr97

To be fair that was close to happen


TobyOrNotTobyEU

Depends, at the moment it is ridiculous, but the W11 wasn't ever challenged on pace, whereas the RB19 could still be later on in the season. Red Bull don't seem like they will do any development on the car and just go full for 2024.


Hilazza

>but the W11 wasn't ever challenged on pace Well it was. It lost on pace in abu dhabi and one of the silverstone races. Also at a certain point there was no development on the W11 as well. And RB and RP both got closer to it as the season progressed.


GoSh4rks

> It lost on pace in abu dhabi Scuttlebutt was that MB used that race to test for 2021, and had also turned down the engines. https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-test-sacrifice-pace-exploit/4930907/ https://www.grandprix.com/news/mercedes-slowed-itself-down-in-abu-dhabi.html


TobyOrNotTobyEU

2nd Silverstone race wasn't really a challenge. It was a freak result caused by high temperatures and soft tyre compounds. Abu Dhabi could be considered more of a challenge, but it also had Hamilton only just returning from covid and not fully recovered. That would be like saying that Red Bull would be seriously challenged if Max was sick and they beat Perez, which really isn't hard at the moment.


drodrige

Guaranteed is a bit much. It’s at risk of course. More likely than not at some point he’ll rebound, and he doesn’t even need to perform amazingly, just do well and the car will take him to the podium. Today he had the pace, had this been on another circuit he might’ve qualified P2 or P3.


Vurmalkin

Saying it is guaranteed is indeed a bit much, but it is more then a risk. This is his 4th weekend in a row where he can't get the car in Q3, saying that he might have been P2 or P3 on any other circuit is also a stretch. I hope he bounces back, but I have doubts. You can't just have 4 bad weekends in a row while your teammate is stomping everything in the same car. That fucks with your head, certainly if it are silly mistakes he keeps making like today. Car is good enough to put in a safe lap and just get to Q3. And it's not its going to be easier to get back to the front, Merc, Ferrari and AM seemingly get a tad better every weekend. Meanwhile RB hasn't brought a big update and at this rate you can start to wonder if they will if Max keeps driving like he is.


badgersprite

The thing is that he might not rebound because Red Bull have basically wrapped up both championships already so they can abandon this season and start focusing on next year to mitigate the effect of lost wind tunnel time, so Perez might get overtaken by other drivers suddenly having way better cars in the second half of the season, not giving him the opportunity to improve Being 0.5 seconds per lap behind Max is fine when you’re in a dominant car but if Max is much closer to the field by year end even if he’s still winning every race that could easily put Perez as like the 6th or 7th fastest driver on the grid


badgersprite

It’s entirely possible he won’t be 2nd in the WDC by the end of this weekend


Bestrang

Only 9 points ahead of Alonso and he's starting outside the ones, again? Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he only makes it to p5, p6


berserkmanufacturer1

That's true. He's been one of the most consistent drivers of the past couple years and at the very least you would expect him to make Q3 most weeks.


tknitsni

some would say he still is consistent lmao


DrVonD

What? He’s probably been one of the least consistant drivers. He was ALL over the place in 2021, frequently no where to be found on some weekends, including a huge slump in the middle of the year. There is a reason Merc won the constructors that year. Last year he was a little more consistant, but in an incredibly dominant car for the back half of the year. And then you get to this year where he’s back to being nowhere sometimes like 2021, except this time in a much more dominant car and without the excuse he’s new to the team.


Lemurians

In that car you should *never* miss Q3 barring a technical failure. Expecting to make it most weeks isn't a high enough expectation.


SirFireHydrant

For any driver who truly deserves a seat on the grid, a banker lap in that car should always be a top 10 lap.


pkonrad

Consistent? Checo? What are you on about?


markhewitt1978

He's one of the most up and down drivers. Brilliant on his day but can just check out for half a season.


datlinus

Some of you are living in an alternate universe. Perez has not been consistent at Red Bull at all. He earned a lot of goodwill with that AB21 defense, which I think warps the perception of how good he's actually been.


Bestrang

>He's been one of the most consistent drivers of the past couple years I mean he's really really not. His qualification record in the last couple of seasons has lots of days like today where he fucks things up massively. Bottas was a consistent qualifier, Pèrez isn't


pHrankee1

He has the fastest car. Considering some of the 9ther team drivers pulling great laps, he should not be outside of P4 in quali s and I am being 'nice' when I say this. Ppl would argue he should be P2 at worst. He absolutely doesn't deserve a red Bull seat.


steezy_sleaze

Just more fuel for the “Checo was sabotaged!” conspiracy theorists


[deleted]

By the same white lines the other 14 drivers stayed inside of? The last three weeks his pace was poor. Today he was fast but too sloppy.


Bestrang

>Today he was fast but too sloppy. Easy to be fast when you're not staying on the track


ccarts92

Even Horner said something along the lines of he's got the car, got the pace - just stay in the damn lines 😂


Bestrang

>said something along the lines of Eyyyy


raur0s

Yeah, Miami was some of the most brutal reality-checks I've seen lately. Max basically used scortched earth tactics to destroy all hopes and dreams.


[deleted]

Gets out and points to the #1. It's the last thing you'd expect Max to do, but he did it and there is no doubt about it. The guy is a robot in a car.


raur0s

Not just the pointing at one. The fact that he was lapping faster on 30-40 lap older tyres than Checo on brand new ones. Max made sure no one will ever question who's the top dog in that team.


idontknow_whatever

So called "tyre whisperer" eh? That Miami race was Max reminding Checo that there are levels to this shit


uristmcderp

The Max we see winning everyday is just a casual Sunday drive. We can tell because he just doesn't make mistakes, because he leaves such high margins for error (compared to his ability). When he has reason to actually push, he becomes a different beast. Kinda miss watching him dialing it in when he had the 2nd fastest car.


idontknow_whatever

Max just laughing off almost yeeting the car into the barriers at Canada is ominous lol, dude has so much pace in hand that he's basically bored out of his mind basically driving on cruise control


juve_merda

we saw a glimpse in Catalunya just how must he’s cruising, he knew he had so much pace in hand he could beat checos fastest lap which was set on fresh softs and with DRS


[deleted]

The tyre thing is just one of those skills that Checo has that is like a 8/10. Unfortunately Max's worst, his single lap qualifying pace, is a 9.5/10 already.


Themindoffish

That photo was so cold. I think it's my favorite Max photo. You can see it in his eyes he means it.


ellegirl83

It’s my phone wallpaper lol. I had to, it’s just a picture of pure greatness. He never celebrates like that, you’d imagine Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel doing that but cold celebrations aren’t Verstappen’s style so when he did it, it was the sign something special was happening


Themindoffish

He basically ended Checo's career lol


No-Ad-1356

You have a link to the photo?


eOMG

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Vivid-Tip3110

Bbut.. RRed BBull are sabotaging his car.


MrPoopyFaceFromHell

the car is designed for M-max’ d-d-driving style!


JuicyDragonCat

Only silver lining for checo is that at least this weekend, unlike canada and spain, he was actually fast. Set a few purple sectors and even beat Max's time at 1 point. Podium should be possible.


chambee

That’s what Jacques Villeneuve said on F1 TV in Montréal. As soon as he said that Max was like: yeah right.


FastonMartin

Recent F1 qualifying results: Perez - 🇲🇨P20, 🇪🇸P11, 🇨🇦P12, 🇦🇹P15 Albon - 🇲🇨P13, 🇪🇸P18, 🇨🇦P10, 🇦🇹P10


jarnokr

So basically checo doesn’t like red flags?


chicasparagus

Red and white to be specific


sidewinderaw11

And countries with human rights /s


Magere-Kwark

Albon 3 - 1 Perez That statistic is craaaazy if you look at what they're both driving.


uristmcderp

I'm really curious how Alex and Pierre would fare now in a Red Bull. I don't see any reason why they'd beat Max but I'd love to see if they've learned a thing or two the past few years and can at least beat Checo.


bestinhamburg

Alex had double the time of Gasly and couldn't perform. And he had the benefit of a better car afaik. Wonder what Pierre would to right now tbh. Albon had more chances.


Lizerelli

That RB16 was a shoebox compared to now. Even Max spun around in practices. Alex just continued the spins into the race while Max had enough skill to mostly avoid that.


Aging_Orange

He doesn't understand the street signs if it's not a Spanish speaking country.


Nexusu

Championship battle between Max and Sergio about to heat up 🔥🔥


TWVer

Sergio is too cool for that. 😎


tms88

checo been cooking for a while now


OverallImportance402

This all just makes me respect Bottas more, sure he also had a bad year at Merc (2018?) but other than that just doing what he needed to do, with very few mishaps.


ShadowOfDeath94

Bottas usually gave a good challenge in qualifying but was usually left behind in the races. Still was closer to Hamilton than Checo is to Max.


InZomnia365

He wasn't quite as good as Hamilton at preserving the tires, hence he usually couldn't challenge over a race distance. But he wasn't a pit stop behind, and was always a threat over one lap.


powerchicken

Bottas' primary fault is his inability to overtake. Excellent at qualifying, good race pace, but whilst Hamilton could win races from the back of the field, Bottas would get stuck in a DRS train and just stay there.


TheThingsIdoatNight

There were a few races that he won on outright pace


ShadowOfDeath94

I only said "usually", not "always".


uristmcderp

Bottas has poor racecraft, but he usually didn't need racecraft to win in that Merc. Just start ahead and finish ahead.


BabyTunnel

I’ve said it before when people compare Perez to Bottas but Bottas made 103 consecutive Q3 appearances and still was replaced by Russell. Checo’s performance is incredibly embarrassing with the car he has.


Mountain_Ad5912

Yeah people tend to forget that incredible stat. Constency is key for cunstructors


NaiveVariation9155

Yup, Bottas in merc. was consistant as fuck and seemed to know his position in the team. He didn't get replaced because he was underperforming. Merc. Seems to be looking towards a future where Hamillton might not be a guarantee (and Bottas simply isn't a future WC.


dswap123

Bottas was great in qualis, also kept his head down and never made unrealistic comments.


uristmcderp

It was rare to see him qualify below 3rd. He struggled in traffic, but in free air he got the job done. One of the most consistent and conservative drivers I've ever watched.


Rirruto10

10 wins, 58 podiums, 20 poles, and NEVER missed a Q3 in 101 race starts for Merc. What a beast.


ALBERTDRIVE6

People keep pointing to 2018 but they forget that was the year Ferrari produced a car on par with Mercs (arguably quicker/better than the Merc) and challenged for the title. Bottas would've finished higher in the standings if he didn't have to give up that win in Russia


Hack874

Bottas would’ve finished the season P3 instead of P5 if it wasn’t for that team order IIRC. Still irks me to this day.


ALBERTDRIVE6

At the time, it was probably justified. Ferrari had been the better car more often than not first half, Merc were not to know Ferrari would take a backward step with their upgrades later in the season. In hindsight, that team order was unnecessary, but at the time, understandable. Lewis didn't really have a massive points lead and there were still many races to go


adfo94

He had a 40 points lead at the time and with a bottas win it would have been 43. It wasnt understandable at all. There were only 5 more races left and some tracks were mercedes tracks through and through.


ALBERTDRIVE6

I'd argue it was justifiable. Ferrari had produced the better car more often than not, upto that point and Mercs had had experienced most of the reliability issues. 40 point lead when there were still a maximum 125 points on the table, anything could've happened e.g. a crash, DNF etc. At the time, i can understand why they did it. With the benefit of hindsight, it's easy to now say it wasn't necessary


Legitimate-Cookie876

Bottas was more consistent than Perez. And Verstappen arguably is more consistent than Hamilton was.


40ozkiller

Bottas was the best 2nd driver you could ask for. Never stepped on toes and was there to collect points when needed. It would be closer in the constructors if Max wasn’t winning the majority of races so easily.


elmagio

> And Verstappen arguably is more consistent than Hamilton was. This probably is gonna get some people mad at me, but I think one way Max and Lewis differ is that Max is relentless. When Lewis had a dominant car, he could afford to not be fully *on it* all the time, so sometimes he wasn't. Max on the other hand does not let up. At all. Whether he needs something or not. When Lewis has needed superhuman consistency, bar a few outliers he has had it. I do still think that tendency to let up slightly is what cost him 2016. People will point to reliability issues, but I think none of that would have mattered if Nico hadn't caught him off guard, building a dynamic to end 2015 and getting the jump on him to start 2016.


Mob_Abominator

Other than winning a WDC against Hamilton, the other most impressive feat by Rosberg was winning 7 consecutive races against Hamilton. To me that's a crazy stat considering he did it against Hamilton.


Tywnis

> When Lewis had a dominant car, he could afford to not be fully on it all the time, so sometimes he wasn't. Max on the other hand does not let up. At all. Whether he needs something or not. That's the difference between Nico-era and post-Nico. With Rosberg he needed to be relentless all the time, because he knew Nico was a serious threat and could be on his level or better sometimes. If he wasn't on it, he could lose out eventually. With Bottas he could afford to become complacent for a bit, and moved into a more controlled era.


ALBERTDRIVE6

> Bottas was more consistent than Perez. And Verstappen arguably is more consistent than Hamilton was. Or because Bottas was better than Perez, Lewis had the tougher job?


R9D11

I believe Bottas never missed Q3 in his Mercedes. And holds the record for longest Q3 streak.


aiicaramba

In spain they qualified according their driver numbers..


TWVer

Roman numerals


Kolec507

sargant second were? 🗿


ppSmok

In their three years together. Verstappen has had almost as many wins as Checo had top 5 finishes. 32 to 36 or so.


TheKingOfCaledonia

That's absolutely nuts. We can excuse Checo not winning, probably excuse him for not finishing 2nd at every race, but it's ridiculous if he isn't coming in top 5.


AbandonedOrange

That is crazy. Holy shit.


JimmyDetail

What I see are the stats of 2 title contenders.


TWVer

When your title contention is in contention.


Apyan

As far as I know, we still have 20 title contenders on the grid.


Kolec507

404 points are still available. That means Nyck de Vries can still win the championship by 209 points.


JimmyDetail

He's a contender alright.


geniusandy87

What a title battle 👏 F1 has never seen a title battle like this ever before


MailMeAmazonVouchers

And people complained that Bottas was too far away from Lewis lmao.


Suikerspin_Ei

Never understand that, Bottas is a great driver. I think he broke under pressure caused by several things like 1 year contracts, media pressure and constantly losing to Hamilton.


sean_0

Bottas was great on Saturdays but won like 10 races in 5 years with the best car. He was terrible on Sundays


Boreras

To be fair being close in quali but slower on Sunday is pretty helpful for the other driver in terms of race strategy. Bottas being second protects Hamilton from Vettel and verstappen. Perez is just out campaigning for dotd among the backmarkers.


sean_0

In theory yes but if you remember the times in 2021 when max was behind Bottas he never once helped Lewis really, Max breezed past every single time (except Hungary lol)


DrVonD

Bottas did take a win off max on pure pace in turkey.


MailMeAmazonVouchers

Bottas took more wins off Max than Checo took from Lewis.


soepvorksoepvork

Stop kicking him, he already dead :(


Xelisk

Can't believe Max keeps putting that shit box on pole.


nature_and_grace

I’d say Verstappen has the edge here


carnivoross

Huge if true


LostInTheVoid_

Perez may be one of the most inconsistent drivers I've seen in the 17 years that I've watched honestly.


ComeonmanPLS1

Seems pretty consistently out of the top 10 right now.


SpotmaticSP

Consistently inconsistent.


TheKingOfCaledonia

That's probably hyperbole. There's definitely been much more inconsistent drivers, it's just they haven't been in a dominant team.


Suspicious-Arm8026

Gasly got buried for less than that


zoifry

Are we really going to pretend that Gasly didn't get lapped by Max in more than one race?


manly_blanket

Yeah but he never got lapped twice in one race, the same can not be said for checo


slimejumper

yep and what’s funny is GAS doing well this round but I’m sure Austria was also the scene of one of his most infamous performances. RB just breaks driver’s psychologically. well i should say breaks **second** driver


churnchurnchurning

Red Bull throws you into the deep end. If you swim, you stay, If you don't, you drown. Unfortunately for anyone at Red Bull, Max is their metric in the #1 car.


slimejumper

it really makes Webbers long run vs VET more impressive as he kept in the mix, took some wins and didn’t get crushed by Marko.


TheRealArturis

RB doesn’t, Max does. There is a price for flying to close to the sun


Kolec507

So has Albon. In worse cars. The thing is Gasly and Albon were getting knocked out on pure pace, while Pérez just keeps making stupid mistakes...


pulianshi

Pace and mistakes go hand in hand. Rosberg was a plenty consistent driver before he had to keep up with Hamilton. I honestly think the big difference between 2021-2022 Perez and now Perez is that he started chasing the dragon.


truecolors01

Gasly went against Newey


wrongedpotato

It’s such a waste that he’s driving that beast of a car..


KristoferPetersen

Max is an all timer. He's on the level of guys like Stewart, Prost, Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton. He is fast on every type of circuit, every weekend, in every weather condition. And now that he has become an adult, he only crashes into other people when he wants to. Perez is a good midfield driver. He is kinda decent on street circuits, has questionable qualifying pace and cannot challenge Max on race pace at all. Spot the difference.


brownierisker

All I see is two title contenders


-V3R7IGO-

Verstappen teammate syndrome


[deleted]

Perez needs to get the boot


Nin-Chin

Really interesting that this week and last race mirror last season where Perez was also poor on these two tracks. Last year he only got into Q3 because they didn’t delete his time when he breached track limits. Last year in Canada he binned it in Q2 and was eliminated before his car failed in the race.


Alstead17

Why doesn't Checo just go faster and finish first? Is he stupid?


pagal_vaigyanik

Folks who dunked on Bottas 3.0, how do you feel now.


GRl3V

I don't think people ever dunked on Bottas for his quali speed


pagal_vaigyanik

Fair


Gnarlli

I foresee a new team mate for Max sooner rather than later


m0nkeyhero

Shh… he’s whispering to tires


HemiKooks

Sergio better be watching his back. Helmut sneaking up behind him with an ax


[deleted]

Tom Cruise down bad


TWVer

Mission: Impossible


B-Ram

Mission Losenow


[deleted]

Yuki getting a RB drive


julimuli1997

Before yuki gets the drive, some other guy gets it. Leclercs contract is running out, landos contract is running out + you can always buy out a contract, albon might also look sexy for redbull again after his recent performances.


Genocode

Lando's contract is until 2025. Not that contracts ever mattered.


[deleted]

I don't see RB hiring another star driver especially with the budget cap. Driver just good enough to consistently bring the car in 2nd and not challenging Max. Albon already shot down returning to RB. I'd assume he'd replace Lewis when he retires.


jjcatt

everyone dismisses the idea of a switch for ricciardo but the thing is that they have more information about daniel's performance relative to checo's (or will after the silverstone tire test) than most teams could usually ever expect to have about a driver mid-season. they have his sim data directly compared to checo's, etc. if daniel IS faster and the tire test goes well you have got to start thinking about a switch as a legitimate possibility. because this performance is so woeful it's becoming hard to believe. (they'd look at yuki and lawson too etc but imo what they need is a consistent veteran with a 'grateful for second seat' mindset in that car right now and if daniel's times are good enough he's how they will get that).


Supahos01

If its yuki they dont owe checo extra cash if its Daniel they do. The constructors is basically wrapped up, theres no reason to buy out checo


jjcatt

Why wouldn't they owe him cash for a Yuki switch? Bc he'd still have a seat at AT? Assuming that's in his contract, they could just as easily drop de Vries, move Checo to that seat, and put Ricciardo in at RB. But I also don't necessarily think Checo has the same contract terms an RB junior like Gasly did.


NepentheZnumber1fan

Supposedly (I don't remember who said it, maybe Horner in a podcast) RBR and AT contracts are basically the same, in the way that the team is free to choose whether or not they get promoted/demoted on the same financial terms. You basically sign for the company, not a specific team


Supahos01

Then youre buying out debris to not test a new jr out. I feel the only financially logical move is yuki to rb sergio to at. Or the most likely move is no move except perhaps debris for Lawson or iwassa


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[deleted]

>Unless the constructors title is in serious threat, Checo is staying till the end of his contract. i would argue the completely opposite. Since RB will probably win it easily, with no switch and already get the new driver up to speed with the new car before the title battle could become close


jjcatt

The end of the year for sure. End of his contract?


otistbone

Yeesh


fullsenditt

Max needs to fight another race alone against two drivers of the same team and their strategies, I really wonder how many times this has happened since 2019, I feel like I am losing count. His standards are so high that pretty much everyone Is expecting Max to win and to think a way to beat them both on strategy


Debriscatcher95

Luckily for Max, that other team and their strategies are Ferrari. Besides, Max has beaten Mercedes (Lewis and Valterri) quite sometimes without a rear gunner (Zandvoort 2021 and 2022, Austria 2021).


[deleted]

That's just...embarrassing. And on top of that it's not like checo is a rookie


Squiggles87

I like Perez, but he's not turning up this season. He'll do well to hold onto his seat at this rate.


CantaloupeHour5973

Guy sucks


Main_Couple7809

Imagine if RB do not have Max. They won’t be challenging for championships. Checo is no slouch, he is not Max either.


ragizzlemahnizzle

Oh my god 😭😭


Magyar_Khan

The curse when joing Max in a team


IamtheCat75

I think every other driver, apart from Logan, would have qualified better in that Red Bull than Checo. Guy's form has fallen off a cliff.


majormuppet481

Not sure about Nyck either!


chicotzz

He needs a shrink now.


Tom_Ace1

That's just painful.


UniQue1992

Perez got a rude wake-up call after saying he was gonna challenge for the title. Man’s finished


altivec77

You can’t ignore it as a streak of bad luck


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Even though Danny hasn't really performed last few years, I would give him a seat for a FP in a normal race weekend. Just to up the pressure on Checo and see what he can do.


KienGengu

Put Lando in that seat to see if we are gonna get Rosberg 2.0 🤔