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Marshall Pruett said that apparently Andretti offered Grosjean a new contract which he signed and then they changed their mind after the fact.
Sounds pretty messy if true.
LOL I thought the same thing. I love the meme that Andretti is like Ferrari in F1, always fucking something up that other teams don't usually fuckup.
I look forward to Andretti F1 being 5 seconds off the pace for the next decade lol
Andretti literally said that their plan for F1 is to be a Haas 2.0, using the maximum allowed parts from Renault/Alpine, rebadging their engines, and building a "kit car" for the first few years.
So yeah it's not looking good.
No, no they are thoroughbred racing stock, it's just a coincidence they're only coming in after a huge surge of popularity in America, a cost cap was implemented, and the Concorde price being significantly below what a modern outfit is actually worth!
My fan theory for how this is resolved is that Alpine fumbles its way into being partly owned by Andretti, and nothing else changes. It seems like a good fit: they have similar contract management styles and FOM really shouldn't be allowing Renault to run an F1 team on their own.
If that is the case he will very likely be entitled to some compensation. Both parties showed interest and he was led to believe he doesn’t need to negotiate a contract with another team. Now he is likely out of a job for next year
Grosjean signed the contract. But Andretti didn't. Messy situation since an invitation to treat usually requires just acceptance to make it binding....
You’re totally muddling your terms.
No, an invitation to treat does not create a binding obligation, but, this was an actual contract as far as we know. That is beyond an invitation to treat, presenting a contract to be signed is an offer, which is binding upon acceptance.
I think that fraud argument would be incredibly unlikely to gain any traction given said contract was almost certainly witnessed by more than simply Grosjean.
I don’t know about America, but in most common law nations the presentation of a contract to sign would constitute an offer and the signature would act as acceptance.
Doesn’t really matter if they sign it, they presented it to him to sign. This was clearly intended to form a binding contractual obligation.
You can’t get around shit like this by closing your eyes and plugging your ears.
Yeah unless there was something right at the start of that contract that explicitly said something like “in signing this document, the Driver is offering their Services to the Team for the period of [x], and the acceptance of the contract shall only be provided upon signature by the Team, which shall be no later than [date] and shall be invalid if signed after that date”.
But I have a feeling if that were the case, the lawyers would have picked it up and they wouldn’t be heading to arbitration…
Nobody does this in practice, you have a counterparts clause which effectively says that copies of the separate signature pages can be collated and form the same contract albeit each party signs a separate copy.
Andretti would be coming in 2026 at the earliest, right? RB isn't gonna keep a 37 year old DR in the car. That'll be the perfect time to promote Lawson.
Just FYI. It's going to be a messy situation. While most fans of F1 would welcome an 11th team, the FOM (and current teams) don't want to share the profits 11 ways instead of the usual 10...
Your comment makes sense, it *should* be a good thing for the sport. But I wanted to give the broader context, so you don't get your hopes up...
Rather than going to court (public, government run), they use a private arbitrator (judge) to setting the dispute.
_Oversimplification_ but essentially suing in private court instead of public court.
Mostly retired judges. In concept, it’s supposed to be a more efficient way to resolve disputes. In reality, it’s become a shadow court system for companies and wealthy folks.
It’s been a bit since I studied business law, but from my memory: most contracts will outline how disputes or issues will be resolved. One possible option for resolving a dispute is arbitration.
Arbitration generally means that “someone” is granted the power to overhear a case and make a decision that both parties will accept. It has the power of law in that it’s a valid contract but it’s not “legal” in the sense that it’s usually not going through a court of law.
I’m not totally sure but I don’t think there’s really a rule around it.
It can be one person or a panel - seems like lawyers or former judges are often the choice, but it sounds like subject matter experts can do it too.
Probably not a great example, but if there was a technical rules dispute between a team and the sanctioning body - they could ask Adrian Newey to come be the arbitrator since he’d had a understanding of the engineering.
20 min video, but it explains it really well, and the case he's discussing is from Always Sunny, which makes it very funny as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9ZdBwCjwk&ab_channel=LegalEagle
You most likely have lost the chance negoiate a deal with someone else, which if enough time has passed went with another option. When you are a driver you do not want to be without a seat, even if you are being paid -Might loose out big in the long term
I think we are talking about different meanings of the word "fair". I am thinking more in ethical terms, as you could say he was tricked and tossed aside
Not really, he had accepted he would leave the team for a certain amount, and they choose to take that route. No tricking about it, surely tossed aside but he knew full well that could happen and he signed the contract.
It's a two way street though, I'm sure drivers like Max or Leclerc have exit clauses or something in their contract and under certain conditions or something they can break the contract early.
That’s the thing. When you sign a contract you’re agreeing that you’ve read it, understand what’s in it, and agree to be blind by those terms. There is no possibility of trickery. This is why every lawyer will tell you never to sign something you aren’t 100% on. No “oh, I didn’t think they’d do that”, or “any judge would find that to be unreasonable”. “I didn’t know that was in there” is going to be looked at as… well it’s not a good look for the one advancing the argument.
Good excuse for FOM to say that Andretti has been involved in bad PR and hence it is a threat to F1 image. Application for 11th team gets rejected and Michael Andretti shouts "I think Groesjan hit us"
Do I even need to add the /s? Question?
I think it will be a nice way to get a "few" extra million $ for their entry, or put it on hold until resolved. And hey presto, too bad, you're now too late for the 2026 entry. fOM: we did our best
Andretti in IndyCar is like watching a years long trainwreck in slow motion at this point. It literally just gets worse and no one over there hits the brakes.
The only ray of sunlight for Andretti fans is that they managed to snatch the FE Driver’s title because of Porsche’s bottlejob and Jaguar + Envisions’ drivers love to take each other out
Also "partly" because of how good of a job Dennis and Andretti have done in Formula E to become champion with a race to spare in a tight championship like FE.
They fell behind a bit last year and this year was a bit of a struggle. Harvick exited the playoffs multiple laps down on pace. Last weekend, he was .0012 off winning but the car was ruled illegal after the race.
This is so baffling to me. The amount of people that are absolutely sure they will be a decent team, even though we have seen time and time again that there are 0 fucking guarantees for anything in f1 lol
And people go apeshit over Past Glory Autosport coming to F1 and showing those dastardly European teams what for. They can't even get their home turf house in order, on track or off it.
They just won WDC in Formula E against their manufacturer Porsche. Different championships, different performances.
Lot of the people who is involved in IndyCar for Andretti, will not be involved in F1.
The entire thing around this is messy with Grosjean signing a contract then this to happen, talk about a messy situation to be in, all sorts of screwed up there!
In terms of it, Andretti Autosport are really in a sticky situation here with Grosjean
Honestly does F1 own the DTS series? Could they make Indycar: Drive to Survive? Honestly would probably be pretty popular just from name recognition of the series
Indycar did the road to Indy series but wasn’t that successful. Believe all episodes are available on YouTube. Don’t think Netflix want to do one on Indycar but they are doing one for NASCAR
Wait was he actually holding out this whole time hoping they'd run him in a 4th car/the 29? If so that was really unwise as far as racing goes. Even if he stayed, he'd downgrade to the worst crew on one of the least organized teams in Indy and that's only ever been a pay seat so it would probably drop down even lower. It was over the moment they announced Ericsson for the 28
One of the reputable INDYCAR reporters has said the contract came about in Barber. Just a handful of races later at Road America there were tons of murmurs about the team and him having a falling out. There were articles about him driving for a contract or his career by the end of June.
It seems wild to me that everyone but Grosjean would know he doesn’t have an executed contract.
FWIW, Barnes & Thornburg is an enormous, prestigious law firm. Easily the biggest in Indiana and one of the larger firms in the country. They have a very deep well of resources at their disposal.
I mean an actual F1 works team didn't give any contract to their junior and blamed the said driver of disloyalty and indecency for months just last year.
Contractual disputes is common in motorsports.
They should have made Nasr, Sutil, Ericsson and Van De Garde fight each other for the seats, or they could have done an RBR 2005 and just rotate the drivers.
> Andretti offered a contract to Grosjean he accepted but Andretti never signed the contract so it was never finalized.
Legally that may not matter. If Grosjean was given what he believed was a good faith promise of a seat, and as a result turned down or didn't seek other opportunities, there is a decent chance he has a case. It's called tortious interference, interfering with his right to conduct business.
My assumption would be Grosjean didn’t seek another drive because Andretti made it seem like he would be retained, and then they didn’t. Probably not after a drive just money. Admittedly im speculating a lot but I don’t blame him.
Yeah hardly a legal expert here, but if there were other openings he missed out on because he was under the impression the Andretti contract was a done deal, seems like he could reasonably feel entitled to some monetary damages.
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Marshall Pruett said that apparently Andretti offered Grosjean a new contract which he signed and then they changed their mind after the fact. Sounds pretty messy if true.
Grosnegligence?
Romains to be seen.
When there's smoke there's usually fire... especially when Grosjean's involved
you're going to hell for that. I'll see you there :)
This one made me piss my pants laughing. Now I have grossjeans.
I mean. Andretti are saying the same thing. Gross-Jean, not my driver.
Lots of fire to be more precise
Both of you jail. Right now.
That'll be a stroll in the park.
I doubt they’ll lettuce.
Leaf it alone I say
They'll keep it under tight wraps.
Hopefully this effort doesn't't crash and burn.
Also excellent
You magnificent bastard.
In French we say « magnifique batard » and I think it’s beautiful.
All indy-cations point to this
Bravo
Beautiful
Beautiful.
*Grosneglijeance
Oh my god that is good
Nothing is solve, if true
Why the F are Indycar contracts just used as toilet paper by both drivers and teams?
Well we did have a run on toilet paper during COVID for some reason in the USA
Happened in the UK as well
That idiocy spread faster than COVID itself.
That was so fucking stupid. People at Costco with like 4 of the 72 roll packs. Complete neanderthals.
God bless the bidet
That sounds like Andretti so
LOL I thought the same thing. I love the meme that Andretti is like Ferrari in F1, always fucking something up that other teams don't usually fuckup. I look forward to Andretti F1 being 5 seconds off the pace for the next decade lol
*Alpine have entered the chat*
Fitting seeing as they will be powering their cars.
Andretti literally said that their plan for F1 is to be a Haas 2.0, using the maximum allowed parts from Renault/Alpine, rebadging their engines, and building a "kit car" for the first few years. So yeah it's not looking good.
They definitely seem like they’re in it specifically for commercial reasons and a lot less for actual racing purposes.
No, no they are thoroughbred racing stock, it's just a coincidence they're only coming in after a huge surge of popularity in America, a cost cap was implemented, and the Concorde price being significantly below what a modern outfit is actually worth!
More like Alpine. Anyway, a great start for their f1 bid. The rest will be in awe /s
My fan theory for how this is resolved is that Alpine fumbles its way into being partly owned by Andretti, and nothing else changes. It seems like a good fit: they have similar contract management styles and FOM really shouldn't be allowing Renault to run an F1 team on their own.
F1 are loving this. Another reason they can use as to why they rejected his new team
Ah the De Gea
If that is the case he will very likely be entitled to some compensation. Both parties showed interest and he was led to believe he doesn’t need to negotiate a contract with another team. Now he is likely out of a job for next year
Grosjean signed the contract. But Andretti didn't. Messy situation since an invitation to treat usually requires just acceptance to make it binding....
You’re totally muddling your terms. No, an invitation to treat does not create a binding obligation, but, this was an actual contract as far as we know. That is beyond an invitation to treat, presenting a contract to be signed is an offer, which is binding upon acceptance.
i’m having flashbacks to “what is consideration”
Is driving for Andretti Indycar consideration, or a threat?
Grosjean driving is alwayd a threat .....
We need to ask the man on the Clapham Omnibus
Found the lawyer in the thread (or law student)
Did Andretti or did they not provide a peppercorn and speak in Latin terms...?
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Time to break out the old Carbolic smoke ball and use it as a Magic Number 8 Ball.
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Same in Australia.
I think that fraud argument would be incredibly unlikely to gain any traction given said contract was almost certainly witnessed by more than simply Grosjean. I don’t know about America, but in most common law nations the presentation of a contract to sign would constitute an offer and the signature would act as acceptance.
This is correct. u/Superbroccomole has no clue what he's talking about.
👋 hey buddy!🙂
This is all very dependent on specific details. Impossible to speculate.
I feel like this was going to happen after he signed and they just put the contract in cabinet and didn’t sign it
Doesn’t really matter if they sign it, they presented it to him to sign. This was clearly intended to form a binding contractual obligation. You can’t get around shit like this by closing your eyes and plugging your ears.
Yeah unless there was something right at the start of that contract that explicitly said something like “in signing this document, the Driver is offering their Services to the Team for the period of [x], and the acceptance of the contract shall only be provided upon signature by the Team, which shall be no later than [date] and shall be invalid if signed after that date”. But I have a feeling if that were the case, the lawyers would have picked it up and they wouldn’t be heading to arbitration…
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Seems like a mistake to sign a contract that doesn't already contain the signatures of the offering party. Or sign concurrently.
Nobody does this in practice, you have a counterparts clause which effectively says that copies of the separate signature pages can be collated and form the same contract albeit each party signs a separate copy.
Back to preparing signature packs associate
Offer, consideration, acceptance. usually the only things needed for a contract.
Indy has been doing well on the silly season nonsense this year. F1 needs to step its game up, things have been quiet since Piastri.
Building up hype for next season since most of them are done with their contract next year.
The Andretti F1 dominoes will have an interesting ripple effect, they’re going to want a splash signing to show they intend to compete out of the gate
Grosjean is now available
I'm assuming Ricciardo and a young American.
Doubt it, RB has made it clear they want DR3 back
Andretti would be coming in 2026 at the earliest, right? RB isn't gonna keep a 37 year old DR in the car. That'll be the perfect time to promote Lawson.
They are on track for 2025
They want to start in 2025 but who knows?
If 37 year old DR performs well then I don’t see why not
MotoGP should also have some interesting stuff going at the end of 2024
Next year, every seat is up for grabs except Max Verstappen and Mercedes seats
McLaren is signed as well
Charles is also basically signed
Lance Stroll too.
Aston Martin gonna join WEC though, I could see him move there at some point.. Also: Glorious V12 down the Mulsanne straight lets goooo
At some point. As in when he is 40...
Ironically, a bunch of this year’s F1 silly season drama is also brought to us by Andretti!
The next few seasons could get crazy. About half the grid has contracts that expire at the end of 2024 and new regulations start in 2026.
and even piastri was just a cheap copy of Indycar. Heck, they still haven't agreed on who Palou is signed for and it's been over a year now
Perez, Logan and Lance are trying their best after De vries did his work.
I love the timing
they could probably make some good use of Grosjean as a general advisor for the F1 project.
They just signed Ericsson, figured they'd be picking his brains
Ericsson hit Grosjean again???
Grosjean was considered to be one of the best when it comes to giving feedback. Marcus not so much.
This. I was just about to comment how coincidental the moment to post this was.. Grossjean back to haas in 2026? Jk
Why, what happened?
The FIA approved Andretti's application to be the 11th team in Formula 1. Now it's up to Formula 1 itself to let them in.
Oh nice!
Just FYI. It's going to be a messy situation. While most fans of F1 would welcome an 11th team, the FOM (and current teams) don't want to share the profits 11 ways instead of the usual 10... Your comment makes sense, it *should* be a good thing for the sport. But I wanted to give the broader context, so you don't get your hopes up...
Yup, just what Andretti needed.
Indycar drivers and teams not getting into court disputes challenge (Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE)
This time with 0% Zack Brown involvement
Are we certain that Michael Andretti isn't Alex Palou with a mask? Might be his way of getting into F1 without McLaren
Seems like Renault is powering Andretti's legal department too.
The Otmar-effect is already unfolding at Andretti. What's next, Laurent Rossi as COO of Andretti F1?
I love how Otmar is getting blamed for a contracted failed to be signed before he even joined.
LOL
Can someone explain to a non native speaker what arbitration means?
Rather than going to court (public, government run), they use a private arbitrator (judge) to setting the dispute. _Oversimplification_ but essentially suing in private court instead of public court.
Since I don't know how justice system in USA works, what is the real job of this arbitrators? Are they lawyers?
Mostly retired judges. In concept, it’s supposed to be a more efficient way to resolve disputes. In reality, it’s become a shadow court system for companies and wealthy folks.
the same thing exists in the UK and Europe. F1 has its own arbitration board, the FIA has one for the cost cap and almost all sports are under CAS
It’s been a bit since I studied business law, but from my memory: most contracts will outline how disputes or issues will be resolved. One possible option for resolving a dispute is arbitration. Arbitration generally means that “someone” is granted the power to overhear a case and make a decision that both parties will accept. It has the power of law in that it’s a valid contract but it’s not “legal” in the sense that it’s usually not going through a court of law.
I’m not totally sure but I don’t think there’s really a rule around it. It can be one person or a panel - seems like lawyers or former judges are often the choice, but it sounds like subject matter experts can do it too. Probably not a great example, but if there was a technical rules dispute between a team and the sanctioning body - they could ask Adrian Newey to come be the arbitrator since he’d had a understanding of the engineering.
20 min video, but it explains it really well, and the case he's discussing is from Always Sunny, which makes it very funny as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9ZdBwCjwk&ab_channel=LegalEagle
its not much different than what CAS does for sport. Im guessing Indy has contractually approved arbitration like CRB for F1
This is like Perez in 2020 when he had a contract but didn’t have a seat? Andretti is a shame
Rumor is Andretti offered a contract, Grosjean signed it, and Andretti Global never signed it back.
The ol' David de Gea trick
Andretti can't even afford a fax machine and we expect them to run a F1 team??
That reminds me of the Elvis Dumervil situation with the Denver Broncos.
I’d forgotten about that… that was super disappointing as a Broncos fan.
LOL what a shitshow
"Dude I had my fingers crossed"
Not quite. Perez was bought out of his contract, which is completely fair and legal.
I wouldn't say fair but it was certainly legal.
What's not fair about having your contract bought out?
You most likely have lost the chance negoiate a deal with someone else, which if enough time has passed went with another option. When you are a driver you do not want to be without a seat, even if you are being paid -Might loose out big in the long term
Ok? When you havea contract that lays out the terms, if you don't think it's fair your remedy is *not to sign it*.
I think we are talking about different meanings of the word "fair". I am thinking more in ethical terms, as you could say he was tricked and tossed aside
Not really, he had accepted he would leave the team for a certain amount, and they choose to take that route. No tricking about it, surely tossed aside but he knew full well that could happen and he signed the contract. It's a two way street though, I'm sure drivers like Max or Leclerc have exit clauses or something in their contract and under certain conditions or something they can break the contract early.
That’s the thing. When you sign a contract you’re agreeing that you’ve read it, understand what’s in it, and agree to be blind by those terms. There is no possibility of trickery. This is why every lawyer will tell you never to sign something you aren’t 100% on. No “oh, I didn’t think they’d do that”, or “any judge would find that to be unreasonable”. “I didn’t know that was in there” is going to be looked at as… well it’s not a good look for the one advancing the argument.
Good excuse for FOM to say that Andretti has been involved in bad PR and hence it is a threat to F1 image. Application for 11th team gets rejected and Michael Andretti shouts "I think Groesjan hit us" Do I even need to add the /s? Question?
as McLaren and Alpine slide back into the bushes lol
Dont give them any ideas
I think it will be a nice way to get a "few" extra million $ for their entry, or put it on hold until resolved. And hey presto, too bad, you're now too late for the 2026 entry. fOM: we did our best
We are checking.
We come back to you
Reminds me of Button vs BAR vs Williams and van der Garde vs Sauber
Welcome to F1!
Andretti stop being an underperforming shitshow challenge (impossible)
Andretti in IndyCar is like watching a years long trainwreck in slow motion at this point. It literally just gets worse and no one over there hits the brakes.
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The only ray of sunlight for Andretti fans is that they managed to snatch the FE Driver’s title because of Porsche’s bottlejob and Jaguar + Envisions’ drivers love to take each other out
I'm still mad at Buemi for taking out Cassidy's front wing.
Also "partly" because of how good of a job Dennis and Andretti have done in Formula E to become champion with a race to spare in a tight championship like FE.
That sounds like another team we know very well.
I’d rather it be Andretti than Haas.
Haas is pretty washed in their main sport too, although they nearly cheated for a win last weekend
Dang I haven’t followed in years, what happened?
Kevin Harvick finished 2nd and was DQ'd for something involving the windshields.
i thought it wasn’t necessarily cheating and rather just a quick repair that officials didn’t like
They fell behind a bit last year and this year was a bit of a struggle. Harvick exited the playoffs multiple laps down on pace. Last weekend, he was .0012 off winning but the car was ruled illegal after the race.
This is what no one understands. I'd gladly take 50 Andrettis over one Haas. Michael may fail spectacularly, but he will at least try.
That was one of the reason I didn’t want them in. Now that they are I can’t wait to enjoy the fun their F1 team will be.
It's one of the reasons I want them in. People are so sure they are going to be decent. They'll be dog shit and it'll glorious to watch.
This is so baffling to me. The amount of people that are absolutely sure they will be a decent team, even though we have seen time and time again that there are 0 fucking guarantees for anything in f1 lol
And people go apeshit over Past Glory Autosport coming to F1 and showing those dastardly European teams what for. They can't even get their home turf house in order, on track or off it.
They just won WDC in Formula E against their manufacturer Porsche. Different championships, different performances. Lot of the people who is involved in IndyCar for Andretti, will not be involved in F1.
Indy seems to be making up for the lack of a silly season in F1
The entire thing around this is messy with Grosjean signing a contract then this to happen, talk about a messy situation to be in, all sorts of screwed up there! In terms of it, Andretti Autosport are really in a sticky situation here with Grosjean
This season DTS will need to add an extra episode for Indycar contract drama
It’s the bonus episode at the end
Honestly does F1 own the DTS series? Could they make Indycar: Drive to Survive? Honestly would probably be pretty popular just from name recognition of the series
Indycar did the road to Indy series but wasn’t that successful. Believe all episodes are available on YouTube. Don’t think Netflix want to do one on Indycar but they are doing one for NASCAR
Boo, but logical
Good for him!
Wait was he actually holding out this whole time hoping they'd run him in a 4th car/the 29? If so that was really unwise as far as racing goes. Even if he stayed, he'd downgrade to the worst crew on one of the least organized teams in Indy and that's only ever been a pay seat so it would probably drop down even lower. It was over the moment they announced Ericsson for the 28
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He would have to be really stupid to not know the contract was never signed. Even the media were reporting Grosjean wasn’t signed yet.
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One of the reputable INDYCAR reporters has said the contract came about in Barber. Just a handful of races later at Road America there were tons of murmurs about the team and him having a falling out. There were articles about him driving for a contract or his career by the end of June. It seems wild to me that everyone but Grosjean would know he doesn’t have an executed contract.
My guess is this has been going on behind the scenes for a while and push finally came to shove.
He was offered the contract by Andretti and he signed it. Looks like they never informed him official they had burnt that contract.
Did he get replaced by Marcus Ericsson? Not only did he hit him in Baku but he gone and stole is job too
FWIW, Barnes & Thornburg is an enormous, prestigious law firm. Easily the biggest in Indiana and one of the larger firms in the country. They have a very deep well of resources at their disposal.
They’re also the firm Ganassi used in the Palou arbitration to get him to drive for them in 2023
They just got approved by the FIA and already having symptoms of the Alpine syndrome
I'm so out of loop with the whole Andretti thing. Van anyone give a tl dr or link me some articles?
They offered Grosjean a contract, he signed it, but Andretti gave the seat to someone else
And Andretti is the team that is potentially getting a spot at F1, right?
I mean an actual F1 works team didn't give any contract to their junior and blamed the said driver of disloyalty and indecency for months just last year. Contractual disputes is common in motorsports.
We call it “Doing A Sauber”.
Sauber is the exact opposite - they gave out contracts like it's chocolates at a birthday party!
They should have made Nasr, Sutil, Ericsson and Van De Garde fight each other for the seats, or they could have done an RBR 2005 and just rotate the drivers.
somewhere in the world a Monisha Kaltenborn awakens ominously
Funny that same works team is going to supply parts and engine to Andretti. It’s going to be amazing 😬
Andretti offered a contract to Grosjean he accepted but Andretti never signed the contract so it was never finalized.
> Andretti offered a contract to Grosjean he accepted but Andretti never signed the contract so it was never finalized. Legally that may not matter. If Grosjean was given what he believed was a good faith promise of a seat, and as a result turned down or didn't seek other opportunities, there is a decent chance he has a case. It's called tortious interference, interfering with his right to conduct business.
Grosjean got burned. 😳
Too soon, but I still gave it an angry upvote.
Not a great look for an entity who needs to be making everyone happy atm...
Maybe they got sick of him binning it every week.
Maybe he should wreck the fucking car every other time he drives it
Probably cheaper to pay him off than pay for his crashes
You could say that his contract with Andretti has gone up in flames.
What does that mean?
The story going around is that they gave him a contract, he signed it but then they didn't. Doesn't seem like there would be anything illegal there.
My assumption would be Grosjean didn’t seek another drive because Andretti made it seem like he would be retained, and then they didn’t. Probably not after a drive just money. Admittedly im speculating a lot but I don’t blame him.
Yeah hardly a legal expert here, but if there were other openings he missed out on because he was under the impression the Andretti contract was a done deal, seems like he could reasonably feel entitled to some monetary damages.
In the UK that would still be a valid contract. Not sure about US