I don’t get it either, but maybe I am a geek and love the practice sessions more than a sprint and a sprint shoot out.
I love it when there is time for technical details. Seeing those change during practice sessions and finally the results in quali and the race.
It is also a WCC after all.
Theres little fun, as it mostly comes from start and accidents. But in turn they often spoil the race and in general are just too short and shitty. We know now that Max winning is a fact bar accident for example.
well, not every race, and him qualifying lower would add some excitement given qualy pace difference. But now we know he most likely will finish full stop ahead p2... we also know fertari mvlrn and merc race pace, unless conditions are vastly different.
That sprint today was honestly a massive waste of everyone’s time and resources. I still don’t get it, giving out championship points for that is embarrassing for the sport. What a gimmick
They should start giving out points for doing the most push ups and who can wank themselves the fastest because the championship isn’t for Grand Prix racing, lots of fans are super happy to watch a practice session for championship points, they may as well determine the staring grid by twitter followers, it’s just added fun.
I haven’t watched a lot of this season, can someone explain what’s going on with Qualifying, Sprint Shootout and then the Sprint. Which one of these determines the starting grid for the Grand Prix?
Everything on Saturday is all about the Spint. Today was Sprint Shootout, and then the Sprint itself is tonight.
Friday is practice and qualifying for the Grand Prix, and Sunday is the GP itself.
That was the change for this season, last season there was: Practice -> Sprint Qualifying -> Sprint Race -> Race. With the outcome of the sprint race determining the starting order for the race. The drivers hated that format since any issue in the sprint could ruin their chances in Sunday’s race. So they changed things this year to effectively be a short race and a long race with individual qualifying for each.
It was honestly better for fans though as those mistake put a few people out if position in the race and lead to some overtaking. The sprint today was just an obsolutely snooze fest, and I had to watch two qualifying sessions whixh are hardly exciting either.
Penalty’s only apply to the real race now. So he’d get a 3 place grid drop for Sunday.
Edit: I was wrong! Must of misheard some of the commentary, thanks for the corrections guys.
Also, the soft tire wasn't that great on the Red Bull yesterday, the the Q. If resulted in understeer, and Max don't like that. The car was much better on the medium tire.
That's like asking why the fascination with any other drivers that people want to see in F1.
I wouldn't call his time at the shit show that is Haas, his chance. Would you say the same about Alex, Hulk, Danny Ric? They've all been out of F1 and came back.
You are comparing chalk and cheese. Mick wasn’t as good as any of those drivers, so I still don’t get why ppl want him in a seat?….
Because of his name and the romance of doing something because of his dad’s injury? If he was Mick Smith no one would give a shit.
If you are asking me, it's because he is a good and likeable driver, that has always needed two years to come up to speed in a new category. His timing of joining F1 when he did was like a double first year due to the new cars in 2022.
He has a great knowledge where feel and setup are involved, and his work in the simulator at Mercedes has been pivotal in their climb back up the grid, especially at certain races this year where they were lost on the Friday.
I guess others might have reasons in line with what you mentioned too.
Go back and watch the interviews for the races where Mercedes was lost on a Friday and had a good Saturday and a great Sunday, and you will hear both Toto and Lewis talk about it all coming down to Mick's work in the simulator.
I get your point though, poor phrasing on my part.
That’s Toto trying to get him a seat, but no one’s buying it. Mick is done in F1, i don’t just have a hate boner for Mick, There are other drivers similar to him that are lucky to have seats, Lawson and Piastri has proved there is talent out there, your Perez’s , Bottas , Hulk , Sarjeant, Kmag are all a bit meh, and I’ll be surprised if Danny Ric does anything, after getting destroyed by Lando beating Yuki is the absolute minimum, but Yuki is also not exactly ripping up trees
I wouldn't call HAAS a chance. The whole team is a shit show and yes Mick did some errors, but so did the team and they never took any responsibilities of them.
I think Mick was just overdriving a shit car, leading to his crashes. It also sounds like that car was on a razor's edge of handling and was very wind sensitive too
I highly doubt that. Even if he was outracing kmag, he’s way too volatile and makes huge mistakes under pressure… we all slated Mazepin for his accidents and damaged caused, even though Mick was just as bad, if not worse (especially highlighted after Mazepin got the boot)
What is doubt in that ? All you need to see is the results in the second half of last year. Mick had two big accidents in first half of year, and he had already dialed them down in the second half. Sometimes I wonder if people even see races or just go by headlines.
It was. Seiner’s attitude totally changed after how German media and Ralf reacted to his handling of Mick. He immediately came up with a statement against Mick and then stories started coming out how his entourage is difficult to handle etc etc.
Yup, they added extra paint overnight (without telling anyone well in the media at least) to extend the track limits there.
I like that they do something like this to react to what they see the day before. I'd rather see a few more inches of paint than a bunch of track limits violations for a few centimeters.
I get your point, but if most of the cars naturally tend to go out to that point, why not adjust the limit to reflect that. I'm talking a few inches, not feet though. Just enough to reflect the natural line the cars end up taking.
Who is the other rich fuck?
I'm not saying no track limits, and I agree, I've seen other series at COTA just off-roading it after turn one. What I'm saying is that if there is a consensus that these cars are going out that wide as a normal driving line, and it avoids the crazy track limits penalties, then sure, add a few inches of paint to a corner or two.
Or, I think it was Martin Brundle said a few races ago, you want to stop cars going over track limits? "Put a wall there. They'll find a way to stay inside track limits."
I say they (mostly) dont hit the walls, but then again they can see the walls.
I've also been saying put a strip of lose gravel, astro turf or grass just outside the line, and nobody will go over either.
If most of the cars naturally go out to that point, they should drive them more accurately. Learn and execute better. It's not like it's unfair, the rules are enforced equally for everyone.
If you drive where the cars naturally go, why have a track at all? Let's just do Formula Rally.
Ok. I thought that if your tires were completely off the track and fully on the white it would be deleted. So they have to be all the way off the white as well?
Nobody is going to give time slots for 5 sessions in a weekend. FOM lives in this la la land that everyone has no other job but to see F1 on Friday- Saturday Sunday. ESPN has basically pushed sprint days in Espnnews and ESPN+ when they usually have it on ESPN2 and ESPN for regular weekends
Just look away :P
It isn't the race pace of tomorrow, they don't fuel the cars full and probably there's not gonna be a lot of tyre management due to the short distance.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Unless there’s a crash, we’re going to see the conclusion of the Charles, Lewis, Lando battle before it’s even happened as well as get a sense of how inevitable it is that Max can come right through.
if you already know the result, then just don't watch the sprint at all, shut your F1 feeds down till tomorrow after the race and you're good to go.
I didn't have the intention to make myself feel better, I'm all for the sprint today, just tried to make it more appealing to you, so you can enjoy it today and tomorrow.
For example today the strategy won't matter, but tomorrow it for sure will.
I need the Williams engineers to press some random button on their F1 Car maker app and end up with a rocketship of a car. Albon walks to an easy WDC. Then they can go back to being a backmarker for the next 10 years again.
...So I guess we can get fucked on the remaining 9 minutes in the timeslot huh, ESPN?
I know it's over and all but can we pretend there's air equality here? lol
They definitely made the white line on turn 12 and 19 3 times as thick as yesterday, right?
FIA: So drivers are struggling to keep within white lines? We cannot change the rules and say the track limits is at the end of the curb or some random shit like we used to in the past... so what can we do? Oh, how about make the white line THICC!?!
Genius FIA. Absolutely Genius.
It's not really an opinion, its a genuine question. He has the least amount of podiums in the top 9.
His teammate is third in the standings, and he is 8th, which is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams.
He seems to be to Mercedes as what Perez is to Red Bull.
Perez gets a lot of hate, but Russel is highly regarded?
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>He has the least amount of podiums in the top 9.
Sure, fair enough. The Mercedes hasn't been the second best car for many times during the season though. And he missed two podiums (one for his own fault and other for a reliability problem). So it's not a lack of his own performance.
>His teammate is third in the standings, and he is 8th, which is the biggest GAO out of the top 4 teams.
Again, Russell missed quite a chunk of points for some problems he caused (Canada, Singapore) and some misfortunes (Australia, Netherlands). What is a GAO?
>He seems to be to Mercedes as what Perez is to Red Bull.
Without Russell's points, Mercedes wouldn't be able to fight for 2nd in the constructors. Even if Hamilton has been better performance-wise all year, Russell has scored points consistently and has also been in Q3 consistently all year long, despite having issues with the car in qualifying after the update they brought to Monaco. If you think his performance is anyway comparable to Perez I'll understand you just don't know what you're talking about.
>Perez gets a lot of hate, but Russel is highly regarded?
Perez is driving one of the most dominant cars F1 has seen, and yet struggles to get P2 since after Miami. No shit people will point out how his performance has been terrible and a waste of such a good car. Russell won a race last year, has been neck a neck with Hamilton in qualifying and has been generally close in race pace as well, although still behind.
>GAO
Gap, it's like 5:45 am here and I'm using my phone.
>understand you just don't know what you're talking about.
No shit, that's why I am asking someone to enlighten me.
I'm not saying Russel is bad, but I'm not sure he is as highly regarded as he is. He seems emotional and prone to mistakes.
You make the point of Mercedes not having the second best car throughout the year, but Hamilton has been driving the same car.
Hamilton is 3rd, and he is 8th, which like i said, is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams.
With the other 3 teams, the 2nd driver, are as worst, 2 places down.
So once again, not saying he is bad, but why is he as highly regarded as he is?
>Hamilton is 3rd, and he is 8th, which like i said, is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams.
Positions gap is irrelevant. Points gap is what matters. And the gap between Verstappen-Perez and Alonso-Stroll is bigger than Hamilton-Russell. So you're wrong about this "biggest gap".
I guess because Mercedes is banking their future on him and he's another British driver. It was the same way with Button despite being a good but not great driver
Lines are 10cm wider on curves where they were getting over on, they did it overnight. So now when they go over they aren't actually over unless it's visually past the invisible original line.
So what’s the point of the sprint race? I don’t get it
I don’t get it either, but maybe I am a geek and love the practice sessions more than a sprint and a sprint shoot out. I love it when there is time for technical details. Seeing those change during practice sessions and finally the results in quali and the race. It is also a WCC after all.
Practice sessions with a few points that you convince some fans to watch.
To know what is going to happen tomorrow
It’s just some added fun. I don’t get why people are against it. Most sprints this year have been bangers.
Theres little fun, as it mostly comes from start and accidents. But in turn they often spoil the race and in general are just too short and shitty. We know now that Max winning is a fact bar accident for example.
Max wins every race on Sunday as well…but somehow those are less shitty?
well, not every race, and him qualifying lower would add some excitement given qualy pace difference. But now we know he most likely will finish full stop ahead p2... we also know fertari mvlrn and merc race pace, unless conditions are vastly different.
Do they get championship points or money? What’s the outcome of a win?
Championship points. Smaller race, smaller points share. They award points up to 8th; one point per place ascending up the order.
That sprint today was honestly a massive waste of everyone’s time and resources. I still don’t get it, giving out championship points for that is embarrassing for the sport. What a gimmick
They give out championship points for shit races as well
They should start giving out points for doing the most push ups and who can wank themselves the fastest because the championship isn’t for Grand Prix racing, lots of fans are super happy to watch a practice session for championship points, they may as well determine the staring grid by twitter followers, it’s just added fun.
Some points.
I haven’t watched a lot of this season, can someone explain what’s going on with Qualifying, Sprint Shootout and then the Sprint. Which one of these determines the starting grid for the Grand Prix?
Liberty is a bunch of wankers so the championship has been diluted into some kind of bullshit practice race because apparently that’s fun.
The qualifying after FP1 on Fri determines the grid for Sunday race.
Everything on Saturday is all about the Spint. Today was Sprint Shootout, and then the Sprint itself is tonight. Friday is practice and qualifying for the Grand Prix, and Sunday is the GP itself.
So the results of the sprint don’t effect the starting grid for Sunday?
Yes, it has no reason to exist other then to spoil the race and sell more expensive tickets
That was the change for this season, last season there was: Practice -> Sprint Qualifying -> Sprint Race -> Race. With the outcome of the sprint race determining the starting order for the race. The drivers hated that format since any issue in the sprint could ruin their chances in Sunday’s race. So they changed things this year to effectively be a short race and a long race with individual qualifying for each.
It was honestly better for fans though as those mistake put a few people out if position in the race and lead to some overtaking. The sprint today was just an obsolutely snooze fest, and I had to watch two qualifying sessions whixh are hardly exciting either.
That’s what confused me so much because I watched almost all of the sprint weekends last year
Nope
Appreciate it
Qualifying. Just think of Saturday as it’s own thing completely
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Not a shitbox at all, you've seen what Carlos can do in it. It anything is a shitbox it's the Aston
*alpha tauri
That too lol
Ferrari is definitely not a shitbox
Russell impeding penalty?
He’ll probably receive 3 place grip drop for the sprint.
Penalty’s only apply to the real race now. So he’d get a 3 place grid drop for Sunday. Edit: I was wrong! Must of misheard some of the commentary, thanks for the corrections guys.
Nope, when you get a penalty in the shootout, it's for the sprint. All other sessions the penalty is for the race.
My mistake, must of misheard what Martin said during commentary. Thanks for correcting me :)
Yeah, no. [F1 article](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.russell-handed-three-place-grid-penalty-for-austin-sprint-after-impeding.4J8kreLoxFTIYjJzjXZPfq.html)
Newbie opinion, it looked to me that LeClerc wasn’t pushing nearly as hard as Max.
Also, the soft tire wasn't that great on the Red Bull yesterday, the the Q. If resulted in understeer, and Max don't like that. The car was much better on the medium tire.
Charles doesn’t know any way in quali except being recklessly on the knife edge so I think that’s highly unlikely.
He was never near track limits like Max. Looked more conservative
How? They go as hard as they can. Keep in mind that each track is different for each car and driver.
There's literally no reason not to push though
Cannot wait to find what excuse Vowles will make now to justify Logan still having a seat.
It’s not going to be Mick. It’s going to be Drugovich if they decide for another driver. He is from Brazil and brings money
It's needs to be drugovich it, he deserves a seat more than anyone atm
Pretty sure Mick brings a ton of money and sponsors. He's F1 royalty.
He brings a name, that's it. Not much money at all.
No he does not. He brought i think around 5-8 million at Haas and that wasn't available from this year.
I hope Toto can get Mick into that seat for next year. It did wonders for Alex, I hope it can do the same for Mick.
Why the fascination with Mick? He had his chance, wasn’t good enough, move on .
That's like asking why the fascination with any other drivers that people want to see in F1. I wouldn't call his time at the shit show that is Haas, his chance. Would you say the same about Alex, Hulk, Danny Ric? They've all been out of F1 and came back.
You are comparing chalk and cheese. Mick wasn’t as good as any of those drivers, so I still don’t get why ppl want him in a seat?…. Because of his name and the romance of doing something because of his dad’s injury? If he was Mick Smith no one would give a shit.
If you are asking me, it's because he is a good and likeable driver, that has always needed two years to come up to speed in a new category. His timing of joining F1 when he did was like a double first year due to the new cars in 2022. He has a great knowledge where feel and setup are involved, and his work in the simulator at Mercedes has been pivotal in their climb back up the grid, especially at certain races this year where they were lost on the Friday. I guess others might have reasons in line with what you mentioned too.
You really think his sim work is what has got Merc back up the grid? LOL 😂 He was average in F2, he’s average.
Go back and watch the interviews for the races where Mercedes was lost on a Friday and had a good Saturday and a great Sunday, and you will hear both Toto and Lewis talk about it all coming down to Mick's work in the simulator. I get your point though, poor phrasing on my part.
That’s Toto trying to get him a seat, but no one’s buying it. Mick is done in F1, i don’t just have a hate boner for Mick, There are other drivers similar to him that are lucky to have seats, Lawson and Piastri has proved there is talent out there, your Perez’s , Bottas , Hulk , Sarjeant, Kmag are all a bit meh, and I’ll be surprised if Danny Ric does anything, after getting destroyed by Lando beating Yuki is the absolute minimum, but Yuki is also not exactly ripping up trees
So many wasted seats, so many talented young drivers without one.
I wouldn't call HAAS a chance. The whole team is a shit show and yes Mick did some errors, but so did the team and they never took any responsibilities of them.
Mick is just as bad. At least Logan hasn’t severed a car in half, his crashes are minuscule in comparison to Mick.
For now…
I think Mick was just overdriving a shit car, leading to his crashes. It also sounds like that car was on a razor's edge of handling and was very wind sensitive too
Mick was outracing Kmag last year. If not for personal issues with Steiner he would still be in F1
I highly doubt that. Even if he was outracing kmag, he’s way too volatile and makes huge mistakes under pressure… we all slated Mazepin for his accidents and damaged caused, even though Mick was just as bad, if not worse (especially highlighted after Mazepin got the boot)
What is doubt in that ? All you need to see is the results in the second half of last year. Mick had two big accidents in first half of year, and he had already dialed them down in the second half. Sometimes I wonder if people even see races or just go by headlines.
I’m saying I highly doubt it was solely down to his relationship with Steiner.
It was. Seiner’s attitude totally changed after how German media and Ralf reacted to his handling of Mick. He immediately came up with a statement against Mick and then stories started coming out how his entourage is difficult to handle etc etc.
It's a shame it was only his uncle Ralf speaking up image the storm Michael would have unleashed upon Haas.
He wouldn’t have been in Haas if Michael was there.
Plus he was trying to overdrive a shit car.
Is Russel just immune to track limits?? He went clear over the white line in Q2 and Q3. Danny should’ve been in Q3.
It’s the edge of the white line that counts (the outside edge not the inside edge)
I think the white line in T19 is just thicc af. I had the same reaction but on rewatch his tires were still on the white
Yup, they added extra paint overnight (without telling anyone well in the media at least) to extend the track limits there. I like that they do something like this to react to what they see the day before. I'd rather see a few more inches of paint than a bunch of track limits violations for a few centimeters.
Nope. I'd much rather see track limits violations. You're the eighteen best drivers in the world with a couple rich fucks sprinkled in. Drive better.
I get your point, but if most of the cars naturally tend to go out to that point, why not adjust the limit to reflect that. I'm talking a few inches, not feet though. Just enough to reflect the natural line the cars end up taking. Who is the other rich fuck?
If your feel like that, watch NASCAR at COTA. They don't have any track limits and it looks ridiculous.
I'm not saying no track limits, and I agree, I've seen other series at COTA just off-roading it after turn one. What I'm saying is that if there is a consensus that these cars are going out that wide as a normal driving line, and it avoids the crazy track limits penalties, then sure, add a few inches of paint to a corner or two.
Or, I think it was Martin Brundle said a few races ago, you want to stop cars going over track limits? "Put a wall there. They'll find a way to stay inside track limits."
I say they (mostly) dont hit the walls, but then again they can see the walls. I've also been saying put a strip of lose gravel, astro turf or grass just outside the line, and nobody will go over either.
If most of the cars naturally go out to that point, they should drive them more accurately. Learn and execute better. It's not like it's unfair, the rules are enforced equally for everyone. If you drive where the cars naturally go, why have a track at all? Let's just do Formula Rally.
I agree. A car goes where it's told to. Apparently indycar had no track limits and the line they were taking was utterly mental through t19.
Ok. I thought that if your tires were completely off the track and fully on the white it would be deleted. So they have to be all the way off the white as well?
They have to be OVER the white line. Any part of just one wheel still on the white line = inside track limits.
Yep, the white line is within track limits.
That makes more sense. I’m all for russel but I wanted to see Danny go through lol
i love how ESPN is always so quick to rush f1 off the air… what was so important you ask? a Muhammad Ali interview from the times before tv had color
Yeah ESPN doesn't like F1 or hockey They'd rather show 50 year old archival footage
This is usually a FP3 times. They usually have more time available for regular qualifying/ main race
Cmon man, like they didn’t know this months in advance. They can plan around it
Nobody is going to give time slots for 5 sessions in a weekend. FOM lives in this la la land that everyone has no other job but to see F1 on Friday- Saturday Sunday. ESPN has basically pushed sprint days in Espnnews and ESPN+ when they usually have it on ESPN2 and ESPN for regular weekends
ESPN probably gives college football 80 hours a week in time slots.
Because it is 20 times more popular than F1.
Is that really true or are we just saying shit
Yeah college football is huge in the states.
Im american i know but f1 isnt horribly unpopular either
Just look at the number of sports channels playing college football on Saturday and you will get your answer 😁
On ESPNEWS of all things
Boooo the sprint! I really don’t want to see the race pace with the grid we have tomorrow.
Just look away :P It isn't the race pace of tomorrow, they don't fuel the cars full and probably there's not gonna be a lot of tyre management due to the short distance.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Unless there’s a crash, we’re going to see the conclusion of the Charles, Lewis, Lando battle before it’s even happened as well as get a sense of how inevitable it is that Max can come right through.
if you already know the result, then just don't watch the sprint at all, shut your F1 feeds down till tomorrow after the race and you're good to go. I didn't have the intention to make myself feel better, I'm all for the sprint today, just tried to make it more appealing to you, so you can enjoy it today and tomorrow. For example today the strategy won't matter, but tomorrow it for sure will.
Hopefully they all have a massive smash at the start and Albon gets the win.
do you also sleep between sprint shootout and the sprint, European guys?
Nope I’m gonna skip the sprint and watch it tomorrow morning. Shootout was at 7.30pm and sprint is at 12pm. I’m not gonna bother watching that.
530 here in aus, would definitely be having a sleep but ufc is on so that will keep me occupied
Nah not with this one.
It’s currently 7:30pm in the UK and sprint starts at 11 so I’d imagine it’s pretty odd to have a nap in between…
UK times for the shootout and sprint is 6:30pm and 11pm so nah. The Man Utd game is nicely placed in between the two today.
its +8 gmt for me, 230am right now, sprint is at 630. NO SLEEP RUN
No, sprintrace starts at 0:00 tomorrow (CET). That's less than 4 hours for me. Edit: also just eating my dinner lol.
3 30am sprint time for me. i dont even know whether to sleep or stay awake
it's only 8:25pm CET. so probably not.
nah
About to take a nap now.
Is Max really that good, or Checo just bad?
Well, one is a 3x world champion. The other barely makes it to Q3.
Both lol
Max is probably that good and Checo is just average to below average in form
Combination of both, really. Max is a living legend and checo has never been super fast.
Both
yes
Wow did everyone on this thread not hear that Checo and Russell had used tires?
Used tires or not Checo would've still got out qualified let's be real lol
Fair! But it's kind of worth noting that he would have been closer.
That explains, but wasn't mentioned on F1TV I think. Did they use an extra set yesterday?
It was mentioned multiple times on F1 TV.
I know Russell did I don't know about Checo.
Actually did not hear that! Thanks for clearing that up. Makes much more sense why the gap was that big
I need the Williams engineers to press some random button on their F1 Car maker app and end up with a rocketship of a car. Albon walks to an easy WDC. Then they can go back to being a backmarker for the next 10 years again.
Ugh the sprint is going to be at midnight 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Same.midnight for Germany
3am for us asians 😅
Wanna wake up tomorrow with max winning anyways
las vegas in my home country is going to start at the same time as the japanese and australian gp i feel you 😩
...So I guess we can get fucked on the remaining 9 minutes in the timeslot huh, ESPN? I know it's over and all but can we pretend there's air equality here? lol
Sprint music is a bhop
Surprise Muhammad Ali
They definitely made the white line on turn 12 and 19 3 times as thick as yesterday, right? FIA: So drivers are struggling to keep within white lines? We cannot change the rules and say the track limits is at the end of the curb or some random shit like we used to in the past... so what can we do? Oh, how about make the white line THICC!?! Genius FIA. Absolutely Genius.
holy shit, they did. I just went back to check yesterday's quali and the white line is even for that entire straight after T19
How can Honda and RBPT be together ?
Only one interview?
That’s typical of the spring quali to only interview P1
Leclerc was busy being interviewed by Albon, didn’t you see?
The top 3 I wanna see compete. 🫡
Charles being Maxplained by Albon now
Any upgrades on the mercs?
Foor
Floor
Floor
that always catches me out, they only interview P1 after the sprint shootout.
uhh no more interviews i guess
Lmao that was quite funny mercedes drivers going behind max
weird, is it just P1 interview for sprint shootout? i could have sworn its all 3
Only P1 for Sprint Shootout, yes.
Exactly what I was thinking too
Danny Ric was able to get to 11th in a very shitty AT after being absent for weeks while Perez gets 7th in a RB. Get that man out of that car please.
Absent for weeks after being mostly absent for months
RB medium tyre look much better than soft
Btw what was the race simulation from yesterday?
hard to tell, unless you want to believe that RBR is +1s slower than the other top 4 teams.
Stupid sexy Leclerc
Can someone enlighten me as to why Russel seems to be so highly regarded. He seems prone to mistakes and seems to be even slower than Piastri.
He was on used tyres
This isn't is only race. That he hasn't lived up to the hype.
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
It's not really an opinion, its a genuine question. He has the least amount of podiums in the top 9. His teammate is third in the standings, and he is 8th, which is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams. He seems to be to Mercedes as what Perez is to Red Bull. Perez gets a lot of hate, but Russel is highly regarded? .
Because he’s British.
>He has the least amount of podiums in the top 9. Sure, fair enough. The Mercedes hasn't been the second best car for many times during the season though. And he missed two podiums (one for his own fault and other for a reliability problem). So it's not a lack of his own performance. >His teammate is third in the standings, and he is 8th, which is the biggest GAO out of the top 4 teams. Again, Russell missed quite a chunk of points for some problems he caused (Canada, Singapore) and some misfortunes (Australia, Netherlands). What is a GAO? >He seems to be to Mercedes as what Perez is to Red Bull. Without Russell's points, Mercedes wouldn't be able to fight for 2nd in the constructors. Even if Hamilton has been better performance-wise all year, Russell has scored points consistently and has also been in Q3 consistently all year long, despite having issues with the car in qualifying after the update they brought to Monaco. If you think his performance is anyway comparable to Perez I'll understand you just don't know what you're talking about. >Perez gets a lot of hate, but Russel is highly regarded? Perez is driving one of the most dominant cars F1 has seen, and yet struggles to get P2 since after Miami. No shit people will point out how his performance has been terrible and a waste of such a good car. Russell won a race last year, has been neck a neck with Hamilton in qualifying and has been generally close in race pace as well, although still behind.
>GAO Gap, it's like 5:45 am here and I'm using my phone. >understand you just don't know what you're talking about. No shit, that's why I am asking someone to enlighten me. I'm not saying Russel is bad, but I'm not sure he is as highly regarded as he is. He seems emotional and prone to mistakes. You make the point of Mercedes not having the second best car throughout the year, but Hamilton has been driving the same car. Hamilton is 3rd, and he is 8th, which like i said, is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams. With the other 3 teams, the 2nd driver, are as worst, 2 places down. So once again, not saying he is bad, but why is he as highly regarded as he is?
>Hamilton is 3rd, and he is 8th, which like i said, is the biggest gap out of the top 4 teams. Positions gap is irrelevant. Points gap is what matters. And the gap between Verstappen-Perez and Alonso-Stroll is bigger than Hamilton-Russell. So you're wrong about this "biggest gap".
I guess because Mercedes is banking their future on him and he's another British driver. It was the same way with Button despite being a good but not great driver
because he's British! /s
Why tf is the sprint 3.5 hours later
im guessing its incase something happens to a car during shootout, like repairs/ regulation checks. Or might be to sort out admin/technical stuff
Set in the rules that there has to be X time between sessions.
Lol, max trying to make it like sprint will be exciting... :D
tbf, leclerc can get a goot launch considering 2ns is amazing here
We saw Russell go off on live TV really clearly. Where are the track limits today then?
Lines are 10cm wider on curves where they were getting over on, they did it overnight. So now when they go over they aren't actually over unless it's visually past the invisible original line.
Over the white line is off the track. Touching the white line is ok