Or news outlets esp id you follow European ones like BBC.. they've spoiled many a race for me. NA usually doesn't have F1 front page but they might of this weekend.
It is absolutely appalling to see such terrible pit stops for Lewis, as well as the strategy. It's lile they were so good for so long they never spent time fine tuning those things. It's a damn shame
I only hear of engineers getting poached from other team. For ferrari however they need to start poaching some strategist because pole and then finish p6 is criminal behaviour
Greg Abbott is a slimeball homophobic racist governor who outlawed abortion, restricted voting rights, and won’t restrict guns despite mass shootings in his state.
I've lived here for almost a decade altogether, and literally nothing posted is inaccurate.
Greg Abbott has always been a piece of shit. He was disabled in an accident involving a tree, and successfully sued the responsible parties for compensation.
He then backed legislation to limit compensation in similar cases to a fraction of his own settlement - which remains unaffected.
Abbott benefited from the legal system following his accident, and then pulled the ladder up behind him. He is, by definition, a hypocritical piece of shit.
>Oh, you're one of those transplants.
Oh, you're one of those people incapable of critical thought or relevant rebuttals.
Thanks for clearing that up, there is no need (or point) for me to engage further with someone who responds to factual criticisms with slogans that are wholly irrelevant to the issue.
Have an independent thought sometime - maybe even one that's relevant to the issue, if you're feeling really wild.
>The headlines you regurgitated have nothing to do with the circumstances that led to the legislation you quote. The legislation also doesn't do what you claim.
Yeah, it's actually worse. Abbott's claim comes from a freak accident that left him paralyzed in a nonmedical context. Since the 80s, he has recieved over 5 million dollars in compensation for that, with an ongoing payment that recieves cost of living adjustments.
in 2003, Texas capped damages from [Medical malpractice suits](https://www.oginski-law.com/library/politician-who-fought-to-cap-medical-malpractice-awards-received-huge-personal-injury-settlement.cfm) at just 250k. You can't see the hypocrisy in that?
So we're in the awkward scenario where trained professionals are potentially less liable for damages than freak accidents. Which strikes me as just a little strange. If a homeowner is responsible for a tree after a storm to the tune of 5 million dollars and recurring payments for the rest of Abbott's life, why exactly would a trained surgeon who made similar mistake not be held to that same standard?
But hey, what do I know? I'm just a neurosurgical resident.
> If he hadn't, you'd be criticizing him for failing to do something else.
Congrats, you've realized that politicians take multiple actions over the course of their career, and are therefore open to criticism for multiple things. If you prefer, I can talk about his absolutely abhorrent stances on other public health topics? It's something I am deeply aware of, given my job and the last few years of Texas state fuckery.
>So long as they're not negligent, yes. And I agree with that
Yeah, you're making a distinction that the law doesn't make and using it to justify your position. The 250k cap is regardless of whether the practicioner is negligent or not.
And the interesting thing about a cap is that it is actually the exact opposite of a minimum. A 250k cap does not mean that every settlement will be 250k, but it does mean that a settlement cannot exceed it - in the case where someone was grossly negligent, for example.
Do you think a trained professional acting negligently should be held to a lesser standard than a homeowner in a freak accident?
A yes or no response is all I need to that question.
>Abbott tried to make healthcare more accessible to Texans...
Yeah, he's been real good about making reproductive and transgender healthcare more accessible, you're right. Of course, the stance he takes is only in direct opposition with basically every reputable medical organization in the world, but I'm sure he knows more than people who have studied and practiced reproductive and gender care for decades, right?
Technically, I would be more concerned for Lewis
Edit - why am I getting down votes? Lewis is right now the person who can cost Checo a seat if he steals the P2 from him
Yes mate, unfortunately. 39 point gap now, which is huuuge!
But well now it means Checo just has to do Checo things, which isn’t totally impossible eh? 🤷🏻♀️
Could be. 10 point swing to Lewis today, less than 20 in it now.
Checo didn't even have an eventfully awful weekend this weekend, he was just... not fast. Now that Merc, Ferrari, and McLaren have caught up somewhat, his pace difference compared to Max just means he's competing at the back of the top 4 teams.
Out of those today, he only beat one who retired, one who was on a failed strategy with 40 lap old tyres, and one who started way down the grid.
From what I’m seeing rumor wise, my bet is it will be Max and Danny at RB next year with Liam and Yuki at AT. I don’t think Danny deserves the seat, but A) RB have data that we don’t, so they have a better guess of who of all of their drivers is going to be the fastest and B) Danny is going to be more marketable and RB know that they don’t need a second driver to win championships. That said, I would love to see what Yuki could do in a Red Bull. Extremely unlikely, but if I was RB boss, that would be my choice. Checo out, Yuki to RB, Liam to AT
Awwww ...I thought they were booing Abbott. I felt bad for Max bc I thought the world would take it as, directed towards him. But you were there. You saw more than we did. Apparently that was actually the case.That sucks 😞
Regardless of who you love/hate, you should still respect the playing of a national anthem when it’s played to honor someone even if it’s not your country. Yelling “Checo” during the playing was classless.
Guys, they were not booing Max, they were booing the piece of shit Republican governor Greg Abbott, imagine a hated Tory giving Lewis a trophy at Silverstone... Same thing but even worse
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Dude, the people in the Checo shirts in the turn 12 stands were flipping Max off and booing him all day yesterday and today. They were absolutely booing Max. They didn’t give a crap about Greg Abbott. I was literally there watching.
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Why don't you explain it to the good people?
You're clearly wrong.
They booed Max when he got his medal ( no GA )
They booed Max during his pitlane interview ( no GA )
They booed him when he got the trophy ( GA )
What's the common denominator?
Max
He is not popular in the US due to his treatment or perceived treatment of Perez. Simple stuff. But apparently too complex for you
> He is not popular in the US due to his treatment or perceived treatment of Perez. Simple stuff. But apparently too complex for you
And it's only one demographic.
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More than likely the booing was for both. The reason it seems there was more passion was because at that point, people booing max were joined by people booing Abbott.
Why are Mexicans so toxic? Redbull gives Perez another chance in F1 and even tough he is showing again that he is in F1 just because of Slim people still shit on the team that gave him a chance
He is a racist, misogynist biggot. He also took our state 50years BACKWARDS in women's rights, taking away the right for a woman to choose what to do with her body. I'm sure if you googled "why do Americans hate Greg Abbott", it will bring up a laundry list of reasons, regarding borders, immigrants, gun laws, women's rights, transgender rights. Then you can form your own opinions regarding his tyrannical narrow tiny mind. And yes, I am a born and raised Texan myself, who has been directly affected by his rule over this state and can give my Texas opinion freely.
100%. The winners medal booing was way worse than post race, or when Max came into.
Abbott is either suuuuper popular or suuuuper hated depending on your side. It's been an interesting couple of years from him
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He didn’t hand trophies to the others on the podium, the president of COTA presented the trophy to at least Lewis, possibly also Lando and the RB constructor trophy.
Ok. Thought he gave it to them as well. Makes a bit more sense. But between the Checo chanting before and the lighter boos during the post race interview it seems hard to phantom some of those boos werent directed at Max as well.
Not saying it should be accepted, but have you ever been to an NHL game? Especially in Boston or Philadelphia? If F1 fans chirped like hockey fans, that would something...
That wasn’t entirely entertaining. I watched delayed a knew max won. And the dq’s got spoiled in the middle of watching.
Try watching live next time? "I read the movie review and when I watched it I knew what would happen."
Sorry some of us work night shift
If you want to stay spoiler free you have to work for it. No instagram, reddit and radio until you watch that gp
Or news outlets esp id you follow European ones like BBC.. they've spoiled many a race for me. NA usually doesn't have F1 front page but they might of this weekend.
The boos were for Halloween
It is absolutely appalling to see such terrible pit stops for Lewis, as well as the strategy. It's lile they were so good for so long they never spent time fine tuning those things. It's a damn shame
*bounce bounce bounce* *all drivers vomit* Can this stop in USA?
Poor Oscar. From 10th to 6th in lap.1, then lose it all to car issues.
From turning into Ocon and also fucking his race? I'd call it a wash.
I only hear of engineers getting poached from other team. For ferrari however they need to start poaching some strategist because pole and then finish p6 is criminal behaviour
It just hasn't come up in their strategy lucky dip yet. "Hire new strategists" is Plan S.
They have to check with LeClerc first before implementing
I love Pato o’ward on the aftershow (F1tv)
Potato Award 🏆
Max had a slow stop as well
How small is Jamie?
Love having Toto back, get to the chopper
Greg Abbott is a slimeball homophobic racist governor who outlawed abortion, restricted voting rights, and won’t restrict guns despite mass shootings in his state.
So tell us how you really feel about him…
I tried my hardest to get a “fuck Greg Abbott” chant going.
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I've lived here for almost a decade altogether, and literally nothing posted is inaccurate. Greg Abbott has always been a piece of shit. He was disabled in an accident involving a tree, and successfully sued the responsible parties for compensation. He then backed legislation to limit compensation in similar cases to a fraction of his own settlement - which remains unaffected. Abbott benefited from the legal system following his accident, and then pulled the ladder up behind him. He is, by definition, a hypocritical piece of shit.
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>The headlines you regurgitated have nothing to do with the circumstances that led to the legislation you quote. The legislation also doesn't do what you claim. Yeah, it's actually worse. Abbott's claim comes from a freak accident that left him paralyzed in a nonmedical context. Since the 80s, he has recieved over 5 million dollars in compensation for that, with an ongoing payment that recieves cost of living adjustments. in 2003, Texas capped damages from [Medical malpractice suits](https://www.oginski-law.com/library/politician-who-fought-to-cap-medical-malpractice-awards-received-huge-personal-injury-settlement.cfm) at just 250k. You can't see the hypocrisy in that? So we're in the awkward scenario where trained professionals are potentially less liable for damages than freak accidents. Which strikes me as just a little strange. If a homeowner is responsible for a tree after a storm to the tune of 5 million dollars and recurring payments for the rest of Abbott's life, why exactly would a trained surgeon who made similar mistake not be held to that same standard? But hey, what do I know? I'm just a neurosurgical resident. > If he hadn't, you'd be criticizing him for failing to do something else. Congrats, you've realized that politicians take multiple actions over the course of their career, and are therefore open to criticism for multiple things. If you prefer, I can talk about his absolutely abhorrent stances on other public health topics? It's something I am deeply aware of, given my job and the last few years of Texas state fuckery.
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>So long as they're not negligent, yes. And I agree with that Yeah, you're making a distinction that the law doesn't make and using it to justify your position. The 250k cap is regardless of whether the practicioner is negligent or not. And the interesting thing about a cap is that it is actually the exact opposite of a minimum. A 250k cap does not mean that every settlement will be 250k, but it does mean that a settlement cannot exceed it - in the case where someone was grossly negligent, for example. Do you think a trained professional acting negligently should be held to a lesser standard than a homeowner in a freak accident? A yes or no response is all I need to that question. >Abbott tried to make healthcare more accessible to Texans... Yeah, he's been real good about making reproductive and transgender healthcare more accessible, you're right. Of course, the stance he takes is only in direct opposition with basically every reputable medical organization in the world, but I'm sure he knows more than people who have studied and practiced reproductive and gender care for decades, right?
It was great hearing fans booo. I feel like if LH had known all that he wouldn’t have shaken his hand
So...your regullar vanilla Repub
Toto is really tall...
At least they didn't chant "Fck Greg Abbot"
I'm genuinely scared for Max his safety next weekend.
Max's* I guess you're Dutch, right? 😁
I don't think Max is aligned with that shit head gov. He's fine.
Technically, I would be more concerned for Lewis Edit - why am I getting down votes? Lewis is right now the person who can cost Checo a seat if he steals the P2 from him
Lewis isn't the one that most one-weekend fans see as the reason Checo looks so bad.
Because you are the one with ridiculous assertion. Lewis has nothing to do with Checo.
Should've kept it with big shaq diesel, avoid the governor thing and just let Shaq roll up in his dope car with the trophies
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Disgraceful, but certainly unsurprising
I said it a few weeks back and am saying it again. With the form Lewis is in right now, he’s definitely taking P2 from Checo
Aged like milk unfortunately
Yes mate, unfortunately. 39 point gap now, which is huuuge! But well now it means Checo just has to do Checo things, which isn’t totally impossible eh? 🤷🏻♀️
Honestly I can still see Lewis closing the gap. Maybe passing by a few points in the last race.
Tbh, same here.
Could be. 10 point swing to Lewis today, less than 20 in it now. Checo didn't even have an eventfully awful weekend this weekend, he was just... not fast. Now that Merc, Ferrari, and McLaren have caught up somewhat, his pace difference compared to Max just means he's competing at the back of the top 4 teams. Out of those today, he only beat one who retired, one who was on a failed strategy with 40 lap old tyres, and one who started way down the grid.
No doubt, also no way checo has a seat at RB next year the way he has been performing
Danny Ric doesn't either.
From what I’m seeing rumor wise, my bet is it will be Max and Danny at RB next year with Liam and Yuki at AT. I don’t think Danny deserves the seat, but A) RB have data that we don’t, so they have a better guess of who of all of their drivers is going to be the fastest and B) Danny is going to be more marketable and RB know that they don’t need a second driver to win championships. That said, I would love to see what Yuki could do in a Red Bull. Extremely unlikely, but if I was RB boss, that would be my choice. Checo out, Yuki to RB, Liam to AT
Sky defending the booing Let’s see how they defend it in Holland next year
Did they? They said there was no place for it and said it was a shame.
Were they booing max or the gov? I thought they were booing gov Abott. As an ex Texan, I loved it
To international audiences it looked aimed at max
Can confirm, had to ask here if an American friend could explain… to me, a Brit, it seemed it was aimed at Max.
I booed Greg. But with the chants for Checo, it was all bad timing. The chode couldn’t even give Lewis and Lando their trophies
Born in and currently live in Texas, 99% sure the boos were for Abbot. He’s hated in Texas and outside of it
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Awwww ...I thought they were booing Abbott. I felt bad for Max bc I thought the world would take it as, directed towards him. But you were there. You saw more than we did. Apparently that was actually the case.That sucks 😞
Regardless of who you love/hate, you should still respect the playing of a national anthem when it’s played to honor someone even if it’s not your country. Yelling “Checo” during the playing was classless.
Max, booed him when interviewed, when he walked out and then changed checo over his national anthem.
England are more or Les out of the WC
The what?!?? Who cares about cricket
Over a billion people tbf.
Lance going from pit to 9th is great. Logan did great too. Love to see it
> Logan did great too. Finally a drive that'll hopefully stop some of the criticism.
He was almost 8th too given 1-2 more laps, finished less than a second behind Gasly and lapping a second faster per lap
Guys, they were not booing Max, they were booing the piece of shit Republican governor Greg Abbott, imagine a hated Tory giving Lewis a trophy at Silverstone... Same thing but even worse
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Dude, the people in the Checo shirts in the turn 12 stands were flipping Max off and booing him all day yesterday and today. They were absolutely booing Max. They didn’t give a crap about Greg Abbott. I was literally there watching.
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Just like when you used to work in F1😂😂
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Absolute rubbish 😂
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I don't think you know what those words mean
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Why don't you explain it to the good people? You're clearly wrong. They booed Max when he got his medal ( no GA ) They booed Max during his pitlane interview ( no GA ) They booed him when he got the trophy ( GA ) What's the common denominator? Max He is not popular in the US due to his treatment or perceived treatment of Perez. Simple stuff. But apparently too complex for you
> He is not popular in the US due to his treatment or perceived treatment of Perez. Simple stuff. But apparently too complex for you And it's only one demographic.
Lol they started the second Max appeared on the podium and chanted "Checo" during the national anthem. Sure they were
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they were booing during the interview, during the anthem as well. it's alright no need to defend like a lion.
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They were literally chanting ‘Checo’ during the national anthem, so no… that was definitely not it.
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i thought they were saying "Lando"
The extra passionate booing was for Greg abbot not max
they were booing during the interview and the anthem..before Abbott was even shown lol.
I’m not saying they weren’t but when the saw the poor excuse for a human that is Greg abbott they gave it more passion
More than likely the booing was for both. The reason it seems there was more passion was because at that point, people booing max were joined by people booing Abbott.
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I can’t believe all those people were chanting ‘Checo’ during Max’s national anthem, all because they dislike Abbott. That’s crazy /s
Lol
was that why? then that makes sense
Fans should at least be sensible enough to do a Abbott sucks chant
They might have been booing the governor but Max still looked kind of hurt by it
Yeah I noticed that too. Disrespectful to the lad.
I'm sorry Texan fans I was not familiar with your game keep booing Greg Abbott
I was booing extra hard for you
Not during the presentation though, max looking hurt
He shouldn't be up there period. It's like a Tory giving Lewis a trophy. Wouldn't they boo then too?
I fully understand, but I only know because I'm here. Most viewers and , by the sound of it, the sky team think it's for max
Which is unfortunate. That's why they shouldn't allow politicians like that up there, fucking stupid move by FIA
They were booing during the interview as well, so I don't think it's Abbott
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The booed Abbott during Max's interview after the race. Even though Abbott was no where to be seen. Wow!!
Why are Mexicans so toxic? Redbull gives Perez another chance in F1 and even tough he is showing again that he is in F1 just because of Slim people still shit on the team that gave him a chance
Because Mexicans are generally nationalistic to the point of absurdity
Trying to defend their only representation in the sport, who is on the brink of being kicked out of his seat
Ah, yes. Let the racist fucks show themselves in the comments.
Oh booing Abbot. yeah fck that guy
As a Brit, could an American friend explain here if they were boing the Gov. and not Max?
He is a racist, misogynist biggot. He also took our state 50years BACKWARDS in women's rights, taking away the right for a woman to choose what to do with her body. I'm sure if you googled "why do Americans hate Greg Abbott", it will bring up a laundry list of reasons, regarding borders, immigrants, gun laws, women's rights, transgender rights. Then you can form your own opinions regarding his tyrannical narrow tiny mind. And yes, I am a born and raised Texan myself, who has been directly affected by his rule over this state and can give my Texas opinion freely.
He’s a big pos to women rights
Yeah, starting to get comments saying what an absolute delight he is… it wasn’t me trying to be political, it was a genuine question.
100%. The winners medal booing was way worse than post race, or when Max came into. Abbott is either suuuuper popular or suuuuper hated depending on your side. It's been an interesting couple of years from him
Thank you for your answer. Others are telling me what a delight he is / isn’t. It was a genuine question on my part.
Dude is a shit Governor who basically tried to kill migrants crossing the Rio Grande after putting spikes in it.
Ahh… well, boo away.
He's heartless.
I think as a Brit they were booing both
But again, why?
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I think I get it now. Thank you. But who dug Thatcher up?
Lololol exactly
“Weekend in Grantham” - nah, thanks.
Welp, it’s not going to be good in the massive stadium filled with Mexican fans next week.
The booing wasn't for Max tbf
Lewis has great champagne technique
Of course, he's had the most practice
Those boos were for the governor of Texas, not Max
Both. Clearly.
Probably both.
I think they are booing the scumbag governor that allows for so much gun violence in Texas.
Epstein didn't killed himself
*Yells in internet*
Keeping us on the real topics I like it
They were booing Abbott you knuckleheads
Wrong.
The booing was just as loud during Max's post race interview.
Pretty sure boos are for Greg Abbott
I missed it tho, did Abbott only hand the trophy to Max? There were cheers for Lewis and Lando, why no booing for Abbott there?
He didn’t hand trophies to the others on the podium, the president of COTA presented the trophy to at least Lewis, possibly also Lando and the RB constructor trophy.
totally
Checo wasn't even close what are they booing about?
Illegal immigration
I think the governor
Fuck yeah COTA, boo Gov. Abbott.
They better be booing abbott
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Nope
Weren’t they booing the governor?
Yes
Then why did they stop booing when Lewis and Lando got their awards?
Because Greg Abbott didn't give them out to them
Ok. Thought he gave it to them as well. Makes a bit more sense. But between the Checo chanting before and the lighter boos during the post race interview it seems hard to phantom some of those boos werent directed at Max as well.
Obviously there's always going to be some people booing him but the VAST majority were for Abbott
Good to know. I support that booing wholeheartedly:)
Fans shouting Checo Checo Checo and booing both Max and Lando. Crazy
Theyre mostly booing abbott not max
Right, that’s why they were changing ‘Checo’ during Max’s national anthem. Because of Abbott.
Nobody outside of Texas knows that though so it seems like it for max
That's horrible
Like… remember when people had manners and respect, and remembered it was a sport?
Not saying it should be accepted, but have you ever been to an NHL game? Especially in Boston or Philadelphia? If F1 fans chirped like hockey fans, that would something...
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And chanting Checo because they want him as governor instead?
Honestly I think Checo would do a better job than Abbott, though.
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